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it is not all about resources. you seen all the commercials from bloomberg all over the nation, it does not -- resources help get the message out, there's no doubt about it. it is the message that matters. for the further le connect with 2546.eration of h.r. will the gentleman from connecticut, mr. courtney, kindly take the chair. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2020] the hair: the house is in committee of the whole house on the state of the union for urther consideration of h.r. 2546 which the clerk will report by title. the clerk: a bill to designate the state of in colorado as components of the national wilderness preservation and for other purposes. the chair: when the committee of the whole rose earlier today, in dment number 12 printed house report 116-395 offered by from e gentlewoman washington -- offered by the gentlewoman from washington, ms. disposed of.e pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18, proceedings will now resume on those amendments printed in 116-385 -- house 116-395 on which proceedings were postponed in following order. amendment number 1 by ms. degette. mr. ment number 2 by mcclintock of california. mendment number 3 by mr. mcclintock of california. amendment number 6 by mr. of arkansas. amendment number 7 by mr. westerman of arkansas. 8 by mr. number cunningham of south carolina. tiptonnt number 9 by mr. of colorado. chair will reduce to two minutes the minute minimum time by any -- after the first series.ic vote in this the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on mendment number 1 printed in house report 116-395 by the entlewoman from colorado, ms. degette, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 1 printed in house report 116-395 by ms. degette of colorado. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, the yeas and nays are ordered. -- a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: on this vote, the yeas are 229. the nays are 189. he amendment is adopted. the unfinished business is request for a recorded vote on amendment number 2 printed in house report 116-395 by the gentleman from california, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the nos prevailed. the clerk will designate the -- redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 2 printed in house report 116- 95 offered by mr. mcclintock of california. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of a request for a recorded vote will rise. a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. members, this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: on this vote, the yeas are 179, the nays are 237. he amendment -- the chair: on this vote the owas are 180's -- the yeas are 180 -- the chair: the yeas are 181, the nays are 239. the amendment is not adopted. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number 3 printed in house report 116-395, by the gentleman from california, mr. mcclintock, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the nays prevailed. the clerk: amendment number 3 printed in house report 116-395 offered by mr. mcclintock of california. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen. a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. , this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: on this sote, the yeas are 181 -- the chair: the yeas are 182, the nays are 236, the amendment is not adopted. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number 5 printed in house report 116-395 by the gentleman from california, on which further proceedings were postponed on which the yeas prevailed by voice vote. the clerk: amendment number 5 printed in house report number 116-395 offered by mr. panetta of california. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute vote. members, two-minute vote. two minutes. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: on this vote, the yeas are 406, the nays are 12. the amendment is adopted. the unfinished business is the request for recorded vote on amendment number 6 printed in house report 116-395, by the gentleman from arkansas, mr. westerman, on which proceedings were postponed, on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 6 printed in house report 116-395, offered by mr. westerman of arkansas. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. members, this is a two-minute vote. two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: on this vote, the yeas are 193, the nays are 228. the amendment is not adopted. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number 7 printed in house report 116-395, by the gentleman from arkansas, mr. westerman, on which further proceedings were postponed, on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 7 printed in house report 116-395, offered by mr. westerman of arkansas. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. members, this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: on this vote network yeas are 193 -- 188, the nays are 233. he amendment is not adopted. the unfinished business is the request for recorded vote on amendment number 8 printed in house report 116-395, by the gentleman from south carolina, mr. cunningham, on which proceedings were postponed, on which the yeas prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 8 printed in house report 116-395, offered by mr. cunningham of south carolina. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. members, this is a two-minute vote. members. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: on this vote, the yeas are 419, the nays are 1. he amendment is adopted. the unfinished business is request for a recorded vote on amendment number 9 printed in house report 116- 95 by the gentleman from colorado, mr. tipton, on which further proceedings were postponed and nos ich the knows -- prevailed. the clerk: amendment number 9 offered by mr. tipton of colorado. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this, members, is a two-minute vote. two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: on this vote, the 234. re 183, the nays are and the amendment is not adopted. there being no further amendments. under the rule, the committee rises. mr. clay: i report the bill back the house with sundry amendments. the speaker pro tempore: the chair of the committee of the whole house on the state of the union reports that the committee has had under consideration bill they report the bill as amended by that resolution back to the house with sundry further amendments adopted in the committee of the whole. under the rules the previous question is ordered. is a separate vote demanded on amendments? if not, the cha chair will put them engross. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it and the amendments are agreed and third reading of the bill. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the clerk: a bill to designate certain lands in the state of colorado as components of the national preservation system and or other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise? >> i have a motion to recommit at the desk the speaker pro tempore: is the gentleman opposed? >> in its current form. the clerk: mr. mcclintock of california moves to recommit the bill h.r. 2546 to the committee on natural resources with instructions to report back to the house with the following amendments. page 234 after line 21 insert the following and redesignate subsequent provisions accordingly. title 7 protecting life, property and the environment from wildfire. section 701 protecting life and property from wildfire. in addition to any other provided, mechanical wildfire mitigation shall be permitted under this act to protect life, property or the environment. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. members, please carry your conversations off the floor. the gentleman is recognized for five minutes. mr. mcclintock: the question presented in this amendment comes down to this, are we willing to protect our wilderness areas from catastrophic wildfire or content to stand by or watch them burn. the wide widwid act is the use and enjoyment of the american people in such manner as will leave them unimpaired for future enjoyment as wilderness. nothing impairs the future enjoyment more than catastrophic fire. our pledge in the wilderness act is to provide for the protection of these areas. to provide for the protection of these areas. now you look at america's wilderness areas today, it is heartbreaking. we have utterly failed to protect them from the scourge of wildfires. unattended forest, it will grow and grow until it chokes itself to death. as it becomes morbidly overgrown disease sceptible to and pests and anything that insin rates everything in its path. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. mr. mcclintock: once a forest is cremated, they won't regrow denying multiple generations of americans, the use and enjoyment that the wilderness promises. why? because we have made it all but impossible for forest managers to protect these habitats by removing excess timber before it can choke off the forests. without special permitting, land managers are restricted to hand saws and axes and benign neglect before they die before our eyes. and when it is ravaging the forest, to use equipment to fight the fires is often difficult and time consuming and today's panetta amendment does nothing to change this dangerous situation. the fire in colorado began in a wilderness where benign neglect decimated the forest. 80% of the trees had perished that made them and when the fire came, firefighters were held back due to the wilderness designation until the fire literally exploded. the same tale is told over and over again throughout our national lands. there are 111 million of federal land designated as wilderness. this bill would add 1.5 million more. that is the size of delaware and half of rhode island, much of it where the federal land managers are warning us it is not suitable for wilderness designation and because of the proximity to homes, towns and property. this is something more than hand aws and axes of protecting life, property or the environment in these new wilderness areas. this isn't a new policy. there are 29 instances where similar active management activities are already written into specific wilderness designations. this would be the 30th time we have done so. when republicans were in the majority, we set three objectives for our federal lands, to restore public access to them, to restore good management to them and the federal government be a good neighbor to the communities. this bill reverses those objectives. instead of restoring public access to public lands, the democrats would restrict. instead of restoring and the federal government as a good neighbor to those communities impacted by the public lands, the democrats give those communities the finger. mark these words, if these wilderness restrictions are imposed on acreage near peoples' homes, it isp only the forest is neglected and the cycle of overcrowding, death and fire. in the aftermath, people will have the right to ask why their elected representatives refused to protect them, their families and homes and their forests when they had a chance to do so today to allow to care for this precious resource. my democratic colleagues remember only you can prevent forest fires. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentlewoman from colorado seek recognition? ms. degette: i rise in opposition to the motion to recommit. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from is recognized or five minutes. ms. degette: this motion to recommit may sound innocuous but it is a wool in sheep's clothing. our local agencies have the ability to fight fires if they need to in wilderness areas. there's no provision in the wilderness act that says they can only use axes or nonmechanical items. none. they keep saying this all day and i don't know why. it is simply not true. what this amendment would do, it would give an entity the ability to use mechanical means whenever they thought necessary you supering the rights of local governments and as the gentleman from california pointed out, the local areas, the management teams already have the ability to fight fires how they want to. what's more, in the underlying bill we say that. just to make clear, everybody in this chamber, even the panetta amendment which underscores that we can fight fires in wilderness. let's talk let's talk about what this bill is about. let's talk about it because it is so important for our children and grandchildren, the future generations. today, today, we have a bipartisan ability to preserve these special wild areas. it's a once in a generation opportunity to preserve 1.4 million acres of wilderness across the west for our generations to come. it will stimulate the economies of our states. it will encourage recreation and it will encourage conservation. and it will take us a long way to our goal of preserving 30% of public lands by 2030 to stop -- to start slowing down the changing of our climate. p.s. if we slow down climate change, we slow down the forest fires and everybody in this chamber knows that. look at the chart. look at the charts that we have of the areas in this bill. and i want to show everybody these gorgeous areas. this first chart, one of the 35 areas in my colorado wilderness lohrs recanyon river. the second chart, the wild and scenic river in mr. huffman's northwest wilderness recreation and working forest act. the third chart, dry lakes ridge in mr. carbajal's central post protection act. by the way, you can see here where they had a fire and you can see here what happened when that area remediated itself from the fire. beautiful wild flowers. the san fwab real national recreation area water ways in ms. chu's act. you can see the beautiful areas protected there. the rim of the valley in mr. schiff's rim of the valley corridor preservation act. these were sent to him by his constituents who love these areas. mish river hombings in the wild and scenic rivers act. folks, this is what we're talking about. this is the legacy we're leaving our children. the wilderness act of 1964 says, wilderness should be preserved as an area for the earth and its community of life are untrammeled by man for man himself is a visitor who does not remain. that's what we're talking about today. i urge you to reject this motion to recommit and vote yes on this important ground breaking bill. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. without objection, the previous question is ordered on the motion to recommit. the question is on the motion to recommit. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the noes have it. the gentleman from california. >> on that i ask for the yeas and nays. the speaker pro tempore: the yeas and nays are requested. those favoring a vote by the yeas and nays will rise. a sufficient number having risen, the yeas and nays are ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. pursuant to clause 9 ol radio -- of rule 20, this is a five-minute vogues on the motion to recommit, which will be followed by a five-minute vote on passage of the bill if ordered. this is a five-minute vote. members, five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the speaker pro tempore: on this vote, the yeas are 199, the yeas -- the nays are 215. the motion is not adopted. the question is on passage of the bill. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the bill

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