Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 07062019 20240714

Doing financially under the current administration, are you better off under President Trump . They want to know what you think and why. If you think you are doing better off we want to hear from you at 2027488000. If you do not think you are doing better off, we want to hear from you at 2027488001. Keep in mind that you can always reach us on social media on and facebookspanwj at facebook. Com cspan. Usa today made the new jobs report its top article, and heres what they wrote about it. Rebounded strongly as employers added 224,000 jobs, even recession fears and a Federal Reserve expected to cut Interest Rates. The Unemployment Rate ticked up from its 50 year low. The Later Department says. Payroll gains for may were 270 2000 from from 75,000. Economists surveyed by bloomberg expected 160,000 job gains. The job report shows that the u. S. Economy continues to create jobs even as we enter the longest period of economic expansion on the record said tony, managing had of citizens bank. But, the Washington Post brings this in. But the expansion has been weaker and benefits this tribute did far more in evening unevenly, leaving Many Americans in a vulnerable position. Teireiered recovery. Have 60 of americans benefited financially, while 40 have not. The 41st and the 40 have seen paltry or volatile rage growth, rising expenses for housing, health care, education, and increased levels of personal ebt. In discussions with 30 americans unable to pay their bills, i pattern emerged. Most of them were able to do fine until a crisis. The extra expense causes them to get behind on their bills and they never fully rebounded. Once again we are talking about the u. S. Economy and we want to know if you think you are doing better financially under President Trump. If the answer is yes we want to hear from you at 2027488000. If you do not think you are doing better under President Trump we want to hear from you at 2027488001. Now, President Trump talked about this earlier this week on friday. When he reacted to the new job report. Heres what he had to say. [video clip] ended thep we have cruel and heartless war on american energy, what they were doing to our energy should never be forgotten. The United States is now the number one producer of oil, and natural gas anywhere in the world. [cheering] and, something i want to make clear to the media, we have ,mong the cleanest and sharpest Crystal Clean air and water anywhere on earth. Ofare creating a future american energy, independence, and our air and water are the cleanest at that they have ever been by far. [end video clip] from let us talk to robert winstonsalem, north carolina. Robert says he is doing better. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. Loter i think i am doing a better. The business i work in is booming. We cannot do all of the work. , and more back on my taxes i think the overall morality the people that i work with and other companies that i deal with , the work is there. If you want to do it, it is there. Host blood industry are you in . What industry are you in . Caller food service. Host and a lot more work . Caller we cannot do it all. We had to turn down work. Host you say this is because of President Trump . Caller i would say so. I remember under the previous administration, our work plummeted. Three not work for about months. We were scared to spend money because we did not know how it would turn out. Eventually it picked back up, and it was slowed coming. People that worked for me but it picked back up, but with trump back in there, he was bringing jobs back over here. There is more work for more people. , it is ridiculous for emmett donalds 16. For a mcdonalds 16 an hour. It is ridiculous. Believe in people getting a fair wage. But there is plenty of work out there now. It is still hard to get jobs for some people because of what they got themselves into, but work is out there. From let us talk to mary williamstown, vermont. She says she is not doing better under President Trump. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. Caller i am a dairy farmer in the state of vermont, and all Dairy Farmers across this country, i can tell you that we are not doing better under President Trump, as he promised. He promised that he would help the Dairy Farmers in this country. He has done nothing to help the Dairy Farmers. The Dairy Farmers are the backbone of this country, the people who feed this country. I feel like we are being so disrespected that i know my grandfather was a dairy farmer years ago, and my grandfather always used to say that when the Dairy Farmers were not doing the countrycally, was not doing good economically. I believe that that is the truth. , iook around my town and see see small towns around me also where the Little Stores are going out and businesses are folding. Why is that . They depend upon the Dairy Farmers. Host what is causing the problem in the business . , ort government policy consumers changing direction . Rising prices, what is causing the problem . Caller i think it is both. I think that the consumers are they led to believe that should buy all of these plantbased milk products. Believe they are being allowed to call them milkbased products when they are not. Milk comes from a lactating animal, not a plan. How, but i am saying we are not doing better financially. When the Dairy Farmers have to they produce food for everyone else, but they have to go and beg for food stamps at their local welfare offices, and i know that for a fact because i have looked into this. I have friends and relatives that work at the state department. Dairy farmers are begging for food stamps. Something is terribly wrong with this country. From let us talk to scott thomasville, georgia. He says he is doing better under President Trump. Good morning. Caller good morning. I really do not understand why anyone cannot be doing better. I understand what your previous caller is talking about. You always have sectors where the markets change. I know people do not eat as much bread anymore because we have weight issues in america. I can tell you that i am in the insurance business, and i am like your first caller. There is so much work to be done it is a matter of deciding who and where you will put your impetus. I am in dallas talking to a new bird driver, and sheet auber driver, and she said this is the best year you had. She said she is so busy she has so much work that she does not know what to do. That is across the board. In south georgia we had a hurricane and finding someone to do the work and doing all the repairs is a challenge, because the demand is so great. I cannot imagine anyone saying that there is not opportunity for people. Whether this is a trump thing, i cannot speak to that. I think it may have something to do with gridlock and government is not involved in playing the game. The market is playing the game, and that is what i think the prosperity comes through, we are not having to respond to government, we are responding to market forces. That is the definition of free enterprise, so i am happy. Host let us talk to harry from your job. He says he is not doing better under President Trump. Good morning. Caller good morning. And good morning to everybody else out there, thank you for speed thank you for cspan. Caller, yes,vious insurance is doing well because people are unsure of how things are going, so people tend to try and ensure against insure against bad happenings. I am 68 years old and working a job as a machinist because i cannot make it any other debt any other way if i do not keep working. My Retirement Savings are gone becausewellness of mismanagement in the markets and difficulties, medical difficulties in my family life. Idea of spiking the economy now, giving a tax cut to wealthy people in order to get the economy moving faster, what people do not understand is that if you get the economy moving faster, what is going to happen interestrowth means rates will go up. Trillion aswe 22 an entity. As a people. The government is the people, we owe 22 trillion, and the Interest Rate is going to go up. That means that we are paying more debt service, and that means that all of our budget is going to go towards paying debt service, which means that the people are not going to get any of their money back. So, all of your money will go to pay the debt service for what you already owe, and you cannot produce things for yourselves. People, we have to get past this debt business. Ok, thank you very much. Host let us go to our social media followers and see what people on facebook and twitter think about the economy. Jason, who person, says me and my family are all doing better making and keeping more. God bless trump. Marianne says no, not at all. I am an older person working full time and nothing about the present time is better. Food costs more, rich people love him because all the breaks go his way and sharing is not in his vocabulary. Another says i am doing great. And myless in taxes 401 k looks great and has for a while. I am doing just fine. Kim writes, no, i paid more risen becauseas of his tax cuts for the ritz at for the rich at the expense of everyone else. President trump came out and talk to some reporters and touted his economic record on friday. Is what the president had to say. [video clip] pres. Trump we had great numbers this morning, 224,000 jobs, those were unexpectedly good. Our country continues to do really well. We are very happy about it. I think we are going to be breaking records. If we had a fed that would lower Interest Rates, we would be like a rocket ship. We do not have a bed that knows fed that knows what it is doing. Will uld have a fed that would lower rates, we would have a rocket ship. When president obama was here, he was paying no interest. 50 election day, over interest and we pay trillions of dollars. We are doing very well. [end video clip] host let us talk to fred from red oak, texas. He says he is doing better. How are you doing. Caller good morning. First of all i want to thank you for putting this on the air for all of the guys in the country. All, you know what has happened in texas . It has been booming. Didad so many people that not go to high school and did not in a shy school, primarily finish high school, primarily in high schools. They take these low end jobs. Those are entry jobs, those are not lifetime jobs and nobody tells these young people from the intercities that they got to get a job that has training to it and some work for their families. Nobody tells them that. They want to be nice to these kids. Education, and a lot of them do not speak english and they want to make 20 or 15, they will not get it. Teach kids to do what happened to the previous generations. First of all, learn english, second, trained to get a profession. I am 76. It took me 20 years to buy my first house. I was a kid we made one dollar an hour washing dishes in the 40s and 50s. Today they should be making them a wage around 10 to 12. I give you my word on that. I tell you what else my country our country needs. Our young people have to be let back into saying this is my country and i will not allow my country to be sunk by these people on the left coast or right coast that do not have any concept of what it takes in america to get by. I think our young people deserve better, they deserve to have an education. And half the families have no mom or dad. Theand the blacks of blacks have no pop. When i was a kid, it was not like that. I am from las vegas. It was not like that. Host let us go to philip from georgia. Philip says he is not doing better under President Trump. Good morning. Caller how are you today . Host fine. Go ahead. Caller i am still recovering from the last policies of taxation, so i am not doing quite that well. My comment was not really about business or money in that regard. Business does well in the United States regardless. The problem with the United States over all is that usery is attached to every last dollar that is in the military Monetary System done by the Federal Reserve bank, and that is the problem with the economy overall. Way to theleads its top from the lowest man. The United States lives on that, the Federal Reserve. There is nothing you can do. Even President Trump mentioned that. They have adult they have adjusted Interest Rates to leech off the economy. Administration, they lowered Interest Rates to continue leeching off. Republican orer democrat, they are money changers. That is the problem with the u. S. Economy, and it hurts everybody in the end. Host let us talk to christie from college station, texas. She is saying she is doing better under President Trump. Good morning. Host good morning. Go ahead. Caller i am doing better under President Trumps administration. Have,ly concern that i just am using i am using this for example. For instance, i was preapproved for a house. Amount isproval supposed to go towards a house. People, there are some that are not righteous. Useinstance, they want to another person for what they were preapproved for, and i do not think that is right. That being said, you have people in anrighteously set up wrong way in order for instance. The preapproval letter that i have that goes towards a house, there are some people who have unrighteously set up to where they will try and put you in a position to where i am not able to use that preapproval letter. In other words, there are guidelines and regulations that i have to have in order to be able to utilize that preapproval letter. Host let us talk to richard from limit, matches choose its. He says he is doing better under President Trump. Good morning. Caller caller caller good morning. We have been in business 38 years, my dad and i started it. I turned it over to the next generation and we are gearing up for the third generation. Touristama, we are related, our business dropped 68 . We had roughly 28 employees, half of them are seasonal. Cut most ofed to our fulltime personnel down to parttime just to stay in business. Taxes, and a lot of other things under obama were forcing a lot of Small Businesses out. Under trump, people have money now, and they are willing to spend it. We have regained all of our losses and in the profit column now. Host what industry did you say you are in . Caller recreational business. We have a general store in a campground. We are doing much better under trump. Senator Kamala Harris talked a little bit about the economy earlier this week during on the campaign trail in iowa. [video clip] harris we have this kind the white house and he talks about how he will make America Great again. Suggest is would that he has actually betrayed america. Ran on a platform that said farmers, i will take care of you all. I do not need to tell iowa that this trade policy, trade by in iowaas resulted farmers, some were looking at bankruptcy, the those who have cultivated a market over at least the last decade to sell soybeans, they are now rotting in been bins. I do not need to tell you how he betrayed people we are looking at the fact that it is very as 700,000at as many autoworkers in the United States may lose their job i the end of the year. Let us talk about the trail of American Families one because of that trade policy, china called whichade tax, american i call the trade tax, American Families are spending 1. 4 billion a month more from ever referring from everything from shampoo to washing machines. Make America Great again, he wants to take america backward. [end video clip] host let us see what our viewers on social media are thinking about the question. Heres one tweet that says what has trump done to affect the economy other than give a huge tax cut to rich people . Tookext one says, trump the handcuffs off of the economy by removing rules and regulations. My taxesne that says went up because mortgage interest are no longer deductible, there is more wear and tell tear on my car. Stocks are going up at the standard of living means i cannot buy any. One more says financially i am or worse, however i believe our country is more sadly divided. It is frightening. Let us go back to the phones and talk to norman from washington. He says he is not doing better. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. Caller i wanted to say that i do not know about this how the economy is doing better. Are just people they are the wages that they are getting off of unemployment are exhausting, and therefore the economy makes it look better. You know what i am saying . Host go ahead. Think that is how it is running. Donenk trump has not right. I think that people are exhausting their unemployment checks, they are running out of they do not want to go 13 weeks or Something Like that on their unemployment, and then they get taken off. It is because there is no money for them. The economy is why is looking better, because all these people are getting off unemployment. From let us talk from jose miami, florida. He says he is doing better off. Good morning. Are you there . Go to georgia. Us she says that she is not doing better under President Trump. Good morning. Caller good morning. Better underg donald trump. A lot of us have not done good under donald trump. I would like us to be honest, because donald trump is ringing our country down. You cannot get you a decent place on fixed income. It is hard for us and no one is reaching out for middleclass senior citizens. I was able to get up and work, i would too. All i can do is pray for them. Have a blessed day. From let us talk to jeremy wisconsin. He says he is doing better under President Trump. Good morning. Caller hello. Thank you for cspan. Thear this morning individual callers have only identified definitions regarding what an economy entails, one sharing, and two markets. No one has brought up trade. Yesterday, when President Donald Trump used this metaphor regarding the economy and rocket as dealing with liquidity concerns themselves, what is he saying . Those who were what is he trying to express. I am doing better. Thank you for cspan. To lee from go memphis, tennessee. Good morning. Caller good morning. I would like to say that i and several of my colleagues have not seen any improvement in the that the economy is going. Those people who put that type , it is justa out going the way that trump says. How can we believe someone who lies every day that god blesses him to get up there. He is just making it up. The economy is not getting any better. I do not know how he has made these people adjust numbers. The stock market is going crazy. Hisybody knows that he has finger stuck in every pie and washington, d. C. And people are scared to cross them. He is just a bully who wants a dictator form of government. We wonder why is it that he cannot admit it on his own, why does he have to have the outside interfering of a Foreign Government . Thank you. Let us talk from larry from north carolina. Larry says he is doing better. Good morning. Caller good morning. I have been a Business Owner for 34 years. Host go ahead. Caller how are you doing. I have been a Business Owner for 35 years, i am 63 years old. Under the last administration i was not able to buy anything for my company. I lost three homes, a motorhome, everything i had worked for to have, under this administration i have been able to buy new trucks and equipment, hire people, and give raises to them. I finally for the first time in 10 to 12 years have been able to put money in savings and say i have something because of what is going on. The man is doing an amazing job and they need to go over the hate and let us make more money in this country. Linda froms talk to liverpool, new york. Good morning. Are you there . Linda . It seems like we have lost linda. Let us go to jim from springfield, illinois. Jim says he is doing better. Good morning. Caller yes, hello. This is jim. We are all doing good here. We are getting a lot more on our income tax return. Host what industry are you in . Caller a city bus driver. I drive for the city. Wife works in a dr. Doctors place and i ended up with 1100 more in my taxes, and she ended up with 900, so that is about two grand for both of us. Another thing i would like to say, you showed a clip of Kamala Harris, how dare her to say how trumps economy is bad. You look at her district in the state of california, and nancy pelosi, all youve got to do and look at the stuff at tv and go to the videos and you can see where these people are not doing their jobs. Homelessness out of control, people fleeing the state like the state of illinois. Last year,000 something similar to the year before. We are going down. We are being taxed to death. , just taxesplates across the board. Gasoline tax, they are killing us here. How dare people who work in the states run the states into the ground and get up on a platform and say how well they are doing. If they get away with what they did to california, new york, l in illinois, the rest of the country will look like them. Host at a fate and freedom coalition, Vice President mike pence spoke about the state of the u. S. Economy. Heres what he had to say. [video clip] you dont need me to tell you, so i will tell you anyway. 5. 8 million new jobs since election day 2016, and the Unemployment Rate is at a 50 year low. [applause] wages are rising at the fastest pace in more than a decade, and most meaningful to the president and me. Wages are rising at their fastest pace for working and bluecollar americans, the forgotten men and women of america are forgotten no more. ,he american is working again for every american. The Unemployment Rate for women is at a 60 year low and it is the lowest Unemployment Rate ever recorded for africanamericans and hispanic americans. [applause] i can tell you in this room, firsthand, confidences back. Jobs are back. In a word, america is back. [applause] [end video clip] from let us talk to carlos north pole, alaska. He saying he is not doing better under President Trump. Good morning. Caller thank you sir. I am not doing better, but i do believe that trump has a plan to bring back america to the gold standard. Shelton,nging on judy who understands the fallacy of currency manipulation. From let us go to clark new jersey. Clark says that he is doing better under President Trump. Good morning. Caller i am doing better. I am disabled and i work parttime, and i also collect Social Security. Both my increase in Social Security benefit and also perncrease of three dollars hour at where i work. I work for the town. So that is doing better. Robert from talk to portsmouth, virginia. Good morning. Because iam calling am disabled, completely disabled. On an ssi check. I do my shopping through magazines, or say my son has a birthday. , iering through magazines was waiting for my product and it was late. I called the magazine and they said because of the tariffs my product is sitting on the docks waiting to be brought. He is putting all these tariffs on, prices are rising, and i cannot get a video camera for my daughters birthday, it is still sitting on the docks. He is trying to bankrupt america and will doing a good job. He will start here and work across the United States, and then he will go to venezuela or he keeps putting the military out in the middle east, and he is just spreading our country to thin. We are going to go break to go bankrupt. Host let us go to wes from spartanburg, south carolina. He says he is doing better. Good morning. Caller i told the interviewer that i am doing better, i would not give President Trump credit. The economy has been in somewhat of a growth, not as large as it could be. Host what industry are you in . Caller since the first year of the recession, you know the Financial Markets collapsed. Ever since then it is been steady upward. It has exploded under trump a little bit more than you would thanks, but you can give me a credit card to throw a big party. They said modern economic theory says that deficits do not matter, maybe they are right. But, in the next downturn, that is when we will know. It is not Illegal Immigrants taking jobs, it is automation. It is that simple. I said that before the 2016 election. For fellow democrats if we do not address the domination of the Manufacturing Base of the middleclass economy in this country, then we are on a fools errand, we might as well have trump, as obnoxious as he is. Economically, he has been steady. I am not against all tariffs. I think some of them are fair and i think some countries take unfair advantage of us. If the democrat just stood up to things that trump is doing, we could have a sensible president. Well, either way. To tina fromtalk richmond, virginia. Good morning. Actually, that is tim from ohio. Good morning. Caller hello. How are you doing . Actually, i work at an automotive plant, and we cannot hire enough people. Host this is in ohio . Caller yes. We cannot get enough employees. We are trying to expand. Host i know that there are people looking for jobs, where should they, which auto factories this . Caller we make torque converters. Host they are actually looking for people . Caller oh god, we cannot get enough people. Jobs that youe say available, are they entrylevel do they require training . Caller these are jobs that pay 18 or 19 ane hour jobs. To start. Host how long has this expansion been going on . Caller since 1949. Host ok. If you are in ohio, tim says that there are jobs available. Let us talk to tina from richmond, virginia. Tina, good morning. Caller good morning. Pension, ande on a i have seen my Health Care Costs go up considerably, including my drug costs. And my payfeel stays steady. There is not even a costofliving increase. Do you think it was like that before President Trump, or do you put the blame on President Trump . Caller i feel like he hasnt done anything to improve things. Any improvements i think will come after he leaves office. I am so tired of the lies and corruption, and so far he has not done anything to help us. Host let us talk to gary from maryland. He says he is doing better off under President Trump. Good morning. Gary, are you there . Alabama. Y daniel from good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. Caller i am doing much worse. I am a retired firefighter. , and im alsoent on disability, and i used to work with the National Park service. And ryanmp took office zinke was the head of the interior. The twin between him and k iv, my monthly check has been cut, so i am doing much worse off under his administration than i was before. Came you say these cuts during the Trump Administration . Where there increases in the previous administration, or were things steady . Caller things were ok before for firefighters in the state, but my personal view and one other person i know, we have both been touched in our monthly incomes. Warren got the first question during the first democratic primary debate, and the question was about the economy. This was her answer. [video clip] i think of it this way. Who is this economy working for . A thinnerg great for slice at the top. It is doing great for giant drug companies. It is not doing great for people trying to get a prescription filled. It is doing great for people who want to invest in private prisons, just africanamericans or latinx families are torn apart and whose communities are ruined. It is doing great for giant Oil Companies that want to drill everywhere, not just for the rest of us who are watching Climate Change bear down on us. When you have a government and economy that does great with those with money and is not doing great with those for everyone else, that is corruption. We need to call it out and attack it head on, and we need to make structural changes in our government, economy, and in our country. Socialet us go back to media and say what some of our followers are saying are you better off under President Trump . Heres one from friends who says says werom franz, who are doing well when we are packed with tourists. Good job, keep it up. Here is another one who says that business is booming and jobs in the defense markets are looking great. Heres another post from facebook that says the stock market is better but the wealth gap is worse. The average person is not investing in stocks. The economy is good but not better than it was three years ago. His policies have not done anything to actually improve things. No one is safer. The poverty rate has not changed. Heres one last tweet that says, there are jobs everywhere, that is a fact. Aaron from to washington. He says he is better off. That morning. Caller i am doing better under the taxy point is that breaks are going to diminish over the years, and i do not be, inhat it is going to the end, a good thing for the individual. 2027,x breaks will end in whereas they will continue for infinitesim infinitm. I am happy now, but i know that there is an end coming. There you go. Host let us talk to another aaron from Upper Marlboro maryland, and this one says he is not doing better. Good morning. Caller we are just moving deck chairs on the titanic. Jim who talked about the 1200 tax returns. Weeks,divide that by 52 that is . 57 an hour. Donald trump has poured one point trillion dollars of lottery tickets and ran up the credit cards in the loop the roof is leaking. That shoulder that he put on pelosi, he marched out of his own office. He marched out because there is no money for infrastructure or anything. Retired right after the tax thing went in. They were did not retired to a farm. They walked into those Corporate Board rooms stuck their hand out and said wheres my cut . Wake up america. Russ, whous talk to says he is doing better. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thanks for having me. I am a retired schoolteacher. We have been scraping along for years, and making it from payday to payday, so to speak. I have got to say that the biggest thing i have noticed is that there is money left over at the end of the month and my Checking Account is growing because this is coming in. I see prosperity all around me where we live. It is a recreational area. We have more career stuff and businesses are opening up again. Ofis definitely a sign prosperity. I think that we owe a lot of this to our president. Host what subjects did you teach before you retired . Caller i was a special ed teacher. Host how long did you teach . Caller 33 years. Host public or private . Caller public schools. Host in michigan . Caller yes. Host excellent. Let us talk to joe calling from maine. And he says he is not doing better. Good morning. Caller i am not doing better. I have lost money on my taxes from real estate that he took away, or whatever region. For whatever reason. The death tax stayed in. Susan collins showed how for thet that was people to leave firms for their children. She had an interest, and she is telling the farmers, and we see what we are getting now. The president bailed them out with 20 billion. That is not trumps money, that is your money. Wake up america. Ago, the 77 debt rate has gone up, just in the one year, the two years or 2. 5 years of trump. There is 22 million debt in the tax bill that they said they would pay for. They said that they would pay for it and it would pay for itself. 83 inple who benefited, the 1 . Is that a lie or fake news . Where you supporting that . From let us talk to annie california. She says she is doing better under President Trump. Good morning. First of all, what part of california are you in, not down with the earthquakes or happening . Caller up in Northern California in the bay area, so across the Golden Gate Bridge from san francisco. Host we just want to make sure our california viewers are doing ok. Caller thank you. Im glad i could get through. I am a Social Security person, and i just want to let President Trump know that if he is watching that us people on disability want to work. What happens when you work and you are on Social Security disability is that you get penalized and sometimes you have to pay for your own medical or you take or they take money out of your check or threaten to take you off your security blanket, if you will. So it winds up that you do not want to work. I know President Trump is in favor of people working. I just want to say that they could change some of those regulations, or ways of working with Social Security so people could work and still keep their check and may become out a little bit ahead of things. Host let us go to barbara from california. She says she is not doing better under President Trump. Good morning. Caller good morning. , but it has absolutely nothing to do with the buffoon in the white house. Better than ok or ok because of two factors. Good fortune, i did not have any catastrophic illnesses and did not suffer from a natural disaster. Yes, i count the earthquake. We felt it, no damage. Up near the earthquake, i feel bad for them because i am sure that they have got bad times coming. They did not have good fortune. The other factor is because my husband and i have double income and no kids. Means. D within our of our, we lost 40 retirement accounts, and we buckled down and said we will have to do serious planning to make sure that we are ok when we retire. Now we are right at retirement age and we retired with zero debt. President trump does not know what zero debt is. Life he lives his life under debt and then he files for bankruptcy and is ok. That does not work for the rest of us. Host let us talk to tom from new york. Good morning. Caller good morning. Im calling in regards to the medical problems we have. As i get older and i come into the next stage of my life, my mother who suffers every day on disability, i have to listen to her cry because she is in so and does so much pain not get proper care because her insurance does not cover this or that. It is sad to see her have to suffer. And, it is seeming to be a lot holier for older people when it should be a lot easier. Host mike from los angeles, california. He says he is doing better. First of all, is everyone safe in your house and neighborhood . Caller hello. Thank you for taking my call. With the policies during this people are angry about increasing immigration crisis. A few days ago, people died at the border. I do not know that the president treated out that leo of we did out that video of how people make fun of him. It is not appropriate for our president. We should not allow this awful situation to become worse. Thank you. Host let us talk to gerard from auburn, maine. Good morning. Caller good morning. I am calling to speak about the subject that i do not hear anybody else talk about, the baby boomers retiring. It seems to me that the economy is greatly influenced by this particular period that we are going through, which i believe started probably a year or so ago, towards the end of obamas administration. I believe now, it does not seem to matter who the president is. However wouldve been president , they would have been reaping the benefits of the baby boomer age retiring. Lower theirompanies overhead because they are not paying the extreme amounts that they have been paying for longterm employees that have been around for a long time, which includes Pension Plans and 401 k s. Retiring, allle of a sudden these companies can afford much cheaper and younger employees. So, that opens up all kinds of jobs out the country. This is what i believe is the reason why we are having a hard time finding people to hire. We just do not have the personnel in the country to replace the vast amount of people that are retiring under the baby boomer age. I just do not understand why no one is talking about this. It seems like President Trump has taken credit when i believe a lot of it have to do has to do with the baby boomer situation. Host let us talk to rita from indiana. Good morning. Pronounce the name of your city for me . Host caller mishawaka. Good morning. I am calling to let you know that i have been unemployed for over two years. And i was laid off from my job originally about three years ago. I have been working temporary itand i cannot find seems like i am having a hard time finding a quality job. The jobs that i do get, i am underemployed, or the pay is low, very low sometimes compared to what i used to make. I am finding other people that other acquaintances who are over 50 and also having a hard time finding employment. So, i am finding that there are people out there who are unemployed, but they may not be getting the benefits, they might they may beause falling off under the radar. And, i guess, i do not know how they consider the Unemployment Rate being so low when i think it is a little bit higher than what they are saying. Host let us talk to candace calling from virginia. She says she is not doing better. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. Caller i do not think i am i think i am doing better, but not due to the president. I think he gave us a push to be less dependent on the government, because we do not know where it is going to go. I would blame that for me being better. Host all right. Thank you to all of our callers. Coming up next, we will get the latest on the 2020 campaign trail with yahoo news is brittany shepherd dachshund yahoo news brittany shepherd. And up next, Naomi Schaefer talks about the mission to shift the mission of the wealthiest charitable foundations. We will be right back. Store span cities tort is exploring the american story. In cooperation with our cable partners, this weekend we take you to missoula, montana. A population of 66,000, it is it second largest city in the heart of the northern rocky mountains. All the time,s particularly in the fall when they are looking for a and domestic fruit. Fruit in the valley. 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Host we are back with brittney shepherd, the National Political correspondent for yahoo news. We going to talk about campaign 2020. Thank you for being with us. Guest thank you for having me. Good morning. Host the first democratic debate is over. Has anything changed because of that debate . Guest Kamala Harris. She has caught fire in a serious way. They were breakout moments and breakthrough moments. Those breakout moments where the wereou were saying the memes you were seen. The breakthrough moment is a bump in the polling. Pullings in national for Kamala Harris is pretty significant given the time that number rose. Her inare talking about a serious way. She has gotten into joe bidens head in a way we have not seen. Host was joe biden the big loser out of the democratic debate . Who fared the worst . Guest i dont want to say i am trying to declare winners and losers. Who knows what is going to happen . Joe biden is still the front runner. I would say people who have taken a hit is beto orourke. He was a wonder cant wunderkind. He understands he is young and scrappy, but he can bring that obama energy. Iowa andke that in south carolina. He was getting a great response from young voters and black voters. His experience is not even fluted. Maybe you saying should drop out. I think he is suffering from that it host lets look at what real clear politics has to say about the polling. Joe biden is still leading, but we saw a fivepoint drop since june. An eight pointaw increase, but she is still in second place. Bernie sanders at 15 . Elizabeth warren saw a 5 increase, up to 14 . How much of this had to do with the setup for this debate . They have a lot of candidates split into two nights. Elizabeth warren did not get to be on stage with joe biden and Kamala Harris. She had the states to herself with what could be considered the lower rung of candidates. How much did that help her . Guest i think that helped her tremendously. Debates are not necessarily about policy. They are about posturing and optics. All these people are bickering around me, but i have definitive plans of action. When you are standing next to somebody like beto orourke and Julian Castro who are wrapped up in partisan bickering, you can stand out th. Shes saying if you Want Better Health care, here is my plan for that. Even though she only got about eight or nine minutes of talking time, that is all you need to make your television pitch. Host were talking campaign 2020. If you want to join this conversation, we will open our regular line. Democrats, your number is 202 7488000. Republicans, if you want to talk about campaign 2020, we want to hear from you at 202 7488001. Independents, your number is 202 7488002. Keep in mind, we are always reading on social media, on twitter, and on facebook. A lot was made last week of the conversation on stage between joe biden and Kamala Harris around busing. How has that affected this race . Busingi think less about policy and more about the politics of Race Relations in america. It really got into joe bidens head, so much that he sat down with chris cuomo to recalibrate his image. I think it really took joe bidens team off the narrative he is trying to spin, which is that he is a centrist candidate with so much experience, Vice President to the first black president , for any other race, that should be a straight shot to the nomination. Kamala harris coming out so severely and successfully against the Vice President shows that maybe he is not as even footing as we thought. There is a conversation about electability. A woman is not electable. The first openly gay democrat is not electable either. If you look at the Huffington Post poll, you see that number for joe biden being electable is going down while the number for Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren is going up. The busing conversation reset the conversation of is joe biden really that electable against 19 other candidates . Host you brought up pete buttigieg. He is doing great as far as fundraising goes. Guest he is doing phenomenally. He is at the top of the charts so far. I believe he is a little shy of 25. Then you have joe biden, who is coming up. Is have Kamala Harris, who 18. That is significant for someone who is the mayor of smalltown indiana, almost unfathomable. Look at the last election. Who knows who will end up where . Maybe we should not have been counting out mayor pete so early. He gets lots of money from hollywood, lots of money from small dollar donations. Host how has the Police Shooting in his town affected his campaign . Guest it raised the flag for many black voters. If this candidate has problems with Police Brutality in his hometown, will he be able to address it on a National Scale . I dont think that question is easily answered. It is hard to replicate municipality issues on a national and state level. This is being litigated in the political realm. It is being litigated on twitter. People are having the conversation with mayor pete in the way they have not before. I dont know if it will be hurting his poll number, but it will become a conversation point. H richard host richard is calling from a augustine, georgia. Caller good morning. I feel Kamala Harris got a jump in the polls simply by pulling out the race card. Without her performance using the race card, she would be nowhere. Well, you know, i think that might be an overstatement to say it was the race card. Obviously, Kamala Harris is an africanamerican woman who grew up through segregation, grew up through racist times in california and was trying to amplify her lived experience on stage against joe biden. Trying to differentiate yourself against 20 other candidates, saying this is my experience is a good way to appeal to voter demographics you might not have clinched yet. Oe biden is doing well with older black voters. I think this is a tactic from harriss campaign. Host lets talk to danny on the republican line. Caller good morning. When donald trump was a candidate in 2016, president barack obama asked him how he and made the economy the statement that he would probably need a magic wand. I am 53 years old, and i dont believe in magic. I cant believe a present of the United States would think a magic wand would fix americas economic problems. The man fixed it. He did not have a magic wand. What he had his comic sense. If there is anybody that wants to make a dollar come go out and dollar, go out and come out with some magic wands at walmart and that person can probably do good using common sense and economics. Guest i am not in the business of patents, but people look at a present able to market themselves. President trump has done well with the make America Great again hat and capitalizing on viral moments to fund raise. He has outraised every democrat so far. As the incumbent, that is normal. It is interesting to see who can capitalize on those moments. Im not sure who is going to sell it at walmart. Being able to capitalize on moments like that for commercial gain is something this president knows how to do well. From lets go to bobby jackson, mississippi. Good morning. Caller yes. I cannot understand why the Democratic Party is trying to push out beto orourke. This is the only candidate that can win. Beto orourke and tim ryan, two states that we need to win to win the election. I cannot understand why you are o. Ying to push out thebet he is a good man, great family. I dont understand it. Thank you. Guest thank you for the question. With so many people running for president , 23 or 24 now, everyone has their pitch for why they think they are going to be the best candidate on the democratic side. I think the far left democrats have been getting a lot of fire right now. Progressive policies have been doing well. That is why Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are so hot in the polls. Who hug the center and have not come out with a progressive policy plan might not find a comfortable space at the democratic table right now. It is still early. Barack obama was still a longshot candidate at this time. The people who might be throwing up theso early might end front runner. Right now, that orourke has hit a rough patch articulating his views. That is why some democrats might be saying now is the time to drop out. Host we have been talking about the fundraising numbers. Lets look at the campaign 20 2020quarter secondquarter fundraising numbers. Pete buttigieg had a big jump. He brought in 24. 8 million. Former Vice President joe biden brought in 21. 5 million. Senator Kamala Harris brought in 12 million. Senator Bernie Sanders brought in 18 million. One of the things we noted in the first 24 hours after last weeks debate, senator harris brought in two main dollars online. 2 million online. Joe biden has raised more per day than any other candidate in the second quarter. What is going on with Bernie Sanders right now . We were talking about progressive policies. We see more talk about Elizabeth Warren right now. What is going on with the Sanders Campaign . When Bernie Sanders ran last time, he was the underdog, very loud and very visual foiled next to hillary clinton. Now you put 19 other people on stage. Somebody like Elizabeth Warren, who embodies similar policies, but is progressive in vision and could be the first female president. That is very attractive to some voters. Phrase to use the stealing the oxygen from other candidates. O very similar one mights, be an iconoclastic i dont think e should say Bernie Sanders campaign is in shambles. They are raising a lot of money. Right now, they are set to outpace the eldest voting block. They will be 10 of electorate. They all love Bernie Sanders. I would not count him out. I think he is struggling to find his narrative voice. Zst who are the jenhostgen voters . Guest they are going to be around 21 and younger. Host firsttime voters . Guest some had the chance to vote in the midterms, but most will vote for the first time in the president ial election. And are the most partisan policy oriented. They want to talk about School Shootings and Climate Change. They are very aggressive and progressive in those stages. Republicans are more progressive. If you take an older, moderate democrat, agency republican might swing more left. Engaged, hyper aware of what is going on and have no problem lobbying and protesting. It is curious to see these folks who live a majority of their life online to see if that will translate into actual Grassroots Organization and voting in november. Host lets talk to robert, who is calling from florida on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. A quick snapshot on Vice President biden, voted for the iraq war, voted for nafta, supported the tpp, voted for Credit Card Companies over consumers, and even supported Ronald Reagan tax cuts. Can you tell us how the people you just spoke about, are they going to forgo their convictions joe biden is president . Guest great question. I cannot pretend to have a crystal ball. As a millennial myself, i have a sense that there is there pushback if joe biden is the nominee. They will have to be serious conversations about his track record. I think joe biden is aware this is not the races he has ran in the past. I do think young people will push joe biden every chance they nomineeoe biden is the and then elected president. There will have to be millennial folks in his administration. I think there will be folks lobbying him outside. One thing i know about millennials and gen z, they never get tired and never throw away their convictions. They will not back down and speak to legislators to lobby for the life they want for them and their children. Job we saw strong numbers yesterday. How will the eventual nominee in depth using this in a general . Guest great question. Kamala harris addressed this. She said jobs numbers are great, but the numbers reflect that it is a strong stock market. The stock market is different from the economy. Many americans are struggling to make ands meat. Many americans dont ends meet. Many americans dont have money in the stock market. Theis trying to parse out republican argument that we have made this great big shining economy, democrats have to untangle that complicated and high information argument for low information voters, who might be swing voters. They went for donald trump last election. Is he even that good for you . Let me plant that skepticism in your head. She will try to do that in two or three minutes. ,ost lets talk to steve calling from florida on the republican line. Good morning. Caller good morning. I am a strong trump supporter. I certainly hope he wins. I would say it is probably 5050 polls asrump under they found out in the last campaign. I hope joe biden is the nominee, although he cannot get out of his own way. P has already insulted half of the democratic base. Me only democrat that scares that could stand up to trump in the debate is Kamala Harris. I remember what Meghan Mccain said, she said she thinks Kamala Harris will be the nominee. I think she will be the nominee. I would like to ask your guests about Elizabeth Warren. The reason she is going up in is bending over backwards to pander to the Africanamerican Community talking about things like reparations, things they know will never come into law. They will never have reparations unless they get a super majority in the senate, at Mitch Mcconnell will be the majority leader. She is pandering. Host go ahead and respond. Claimsmany president s may not be immediately ive action. I will say about Elizabeth Warren is that she cares a lot ,bout all of her policy points and getting africanamericans to vote is important. Joe biden has been much locked down the older part of that holding block. There are still a lot of young ready to be who are wooed. Every candidate is trying to make a pitch that i am the best. We have two black people running for president. Cory booker and follow harris. When you are going up against candidates who are native to that community, you have to make a very strong play. Candidates, reparations are a normal part of their toolbox. Host we heard a lot of talk about the border and immigration. What is the conversation like among Democratic Candidates . The next debate is coming up july 30 and 31st what will we see that is different . Immigration is perhaps the most hot button topic right now. Was a, there congressional delegation that went to the border. They were looking at pretty vile conditions for folks crossing the border. To convey are trying empathy and see what they can do to fix or help. Are conversations about decriminalizing border crossing. That is where you will see a little difference. Handsd a raise your polling the crowd. It is visual and easy to see, tease outhard to policy nuance. There will be conversations of how do you deal with migrants in a legal capacity, how do you make sure folks on the border are getting adequate humane treatment. Beto orourke has come out with Strong Border policy. He is from el paso. Castro has similar ambitions, and it will be up to folks like john delaney. I think as they become more serious, folks will be twisting there are. That is a good segue into what will happen in the second debate. There will be fewer candidates. The dnc is ratcheting their qualifications for the third debate. Over 2 national polling. Those numbers might seem small, but they are not when you are elbowing out 19 other candidates. I cannot tell you who exactly we will see. There could be a lastminute fundraising push to get you on stage. Marianne williamson is going to be on stage for the second debate because republicans are donating to her campaign because they like to see her among other democrats, which is pretty interesting to say this kind of opposition. Be right next to joe biden. Host do you expect to see any Democratic Candidates drop out . Tweet mike gravel did that it is time to wrap up his campaign. I suspect he will wrap it up. It is a very long primary. You do not need to be in the debates to run for president. To win the presidency is a different ball game. I think if you have the money and the ego, you will stay in as long as you can. Host lets talk to larry from memphis, tennessee. Good morning. Caller i would like to ask the young lady a question. Thats been reported republicans, the commanderinchief is going to go after Robert Mueller this month. The democrats are going to be able to use anything at the debate to go after donald . Rump guest the united enemy of the Democratic Party is President Trump there was a lot of conversation around joe biden, saying all this infighting is distracting because our main goal should be getting President Trump out of office. With the if it is done present tweeting or the president having a fourth of july parade, whatever the president did, the democrats will make that a fundraising effort. If they are united against one thing, it is President Trump. Many democrats have said i dont care if i am not the nominee. I would rather see anyone been President Trump. Expect to hear that at the second debate. That will be the refrain. Lets talk to rob calling from new jersey on the independent line. Good morning. Caller thank you for taking my call. If we are talking about the campaign in 2020, i have a theory that the president will refuse to debate whoever the democratic candidate is. Has somen is he terrible records. Some decisionmaking that has been made in the last couple of the defense of those decisions will be impossible for him to debate. I dont think he is going to debate. I think what we will see is a series of highprofile, very intense Campaign Rallies similar to what he has been doing all along. I think if there is a debate, he will send out mike pence, and the silliness of that is that the argument will reduce itself to some kind of conservative, evangelist defense of the policies that have been going on or that the Trump Administration has produced. I have not spoken to the president or his staff on this topic. Something that is important for voters to understand across partisan lines is that the president will defend his record until the very end. Several women have accused the president of sexual misconduct. Floort think there is a or ceiling to what the president will defend if he thinks he is in the right. I think it is an interesting theory that the president will not go out on stage and debate, to my understanding, i think he likes the fight. Look what happened in the last election cycle. He thrived on stage when he was making fun of little marco. He knows his tactics, and his base likes him. My question is why would he give that up when he knows what works . That partisan punching and elbowing is Donald Trumps potluck dish. Lets go to margaret, louisiana. Good morning. I am not registered as a republican or democrat. Think the job of president is too much to put in the hands of one person. I know that as far out. I have watched this go on or three years. I dont want to see someone like the current president ever in office again. I think if we went to get him in, weoffice and put 18 will get someone like joe biden, the white male who has experience. He knows how the office works and what the job is. Young white, not white, she is not white. Ms. Harris. I cannot pronounce her first name. Kamela . Firecracker. Team up, kiss, make up. Host go ahead and respond. Guest dont feel bad for not being able to pronounce everyones name. La, like a comma in a sentence. Kamala harris has said repeatedly , why should i settle forveep . To your point that they should not be one person, we are constructing a team. You are electing one person to delegate tasks to the best people. That Kamala Harris and joe biden our friends. Joe biden was on cnn yesterday. Right now, a lot of this is happening as politics. They need to differentiate themselves. I dont think they should rule out that any of these other people team up with each other. Of mashup that you want to make right now could possibly happen in 2020. Host we would like to thank brittney shepherd for being with us and helping us. Thank you so much. Guest thank you for having me. Were going to continue to talk about 2020 in the next segment. If the answer is no, 202 7488001. Here is a little bit from our newsmaker interview with the president of emilys list. She is asked about 2020 efforts at the state level. [video clip] virginia is probably the biggest legislative battle this year. To of the chambers came drawing a name out of a hat. What is the plan to flip one or both of those chambers this year. We believe we can flip both of those chambers this year. Had an incredible success in 2017. Lost. As our candidate who she is running again. We have already endorsed over 30 women for both chambers. We have announced a 600,000 investment in partnership with priorities usa to do Digital Communication and outreach. I have had staff on the ground recruiting, coaching, helping set up organizations around those candidates in both chambers. You will see Additional Support coming from us. We think we can do this, and we have to do this. Washington journal continues. Host we will continue the conversation. We want to know about your involvement. Do you plan to volunteer or donate to a president ial campaign or Political Campaign in 2020 . If you plan to donate or volunteer, we want to hear from you. 202 7488000. If you dont plan to donate, we want to hear from you. Tell us why. 202 7488002. Onalways keeping an eye social media. One of the reasons we are talking about this conversation is because cnbc had an article earlier this week talking about peoples plans to volunteer or donate in 2020. I want to read from that article. Political polarization has increased, but that is not translating into a major change in the willingness of americans to open up their wallets and donate to candidates for the 2020 president ial election. Under one third of americans have already made donations or say they plan to make donations to president ial campaigns. Only 8 of americans have given to a 2020 president ial campaign so far according to the survey with an additional 19 of respondents indicating they plan to donate to a candidate but have not already. The survey included a Diverse Group of 2000 americans conducted by surveymonkey from june 17 to june 20. We want to know, are you part of that one third that have already made campaign donations, or do you plan to not donate at all . Let us know what you think. From talk to thomas cleveland, ohio. Thomas has already made a campaign donation. Tell us what you are doing. Caller i have already donated to beto orourke because i believe that he is the only democratic candidate that could definitely beat donald trump. Go ahead, sorry. Caller as far as Kamala Harris is concerned, i think the republicans are doing everything in their power for her to be the democratic nominee because they know she will already have two strikes against her. She is black, and she is a woman. Men that will not vote for a woman. This campaign is too important, and i would like to see better betoand cory Booker Orourke and cory booker. Going to you volunteer, or is the extent going to be donating . Caller i have donated, and i have already participated doortodoor. Host lets talk to mike calling from miami. He says hes not going to volunteer or donate 2020. Caller good morning. How are you . Host just fine. Caller i stand with the first president of this country saying that Political Parties will be the downfall of this country, especially the Democratic Party, the party of slaves. Unless my great grandfather and grandmother were lying to me, which i dont think they were, since my grandmother was a slave. Host have you ever donated to a campaign before . Never ever. I might buy a hat, but i will not make a donation because i do not believe in Political Parties. I think they should be abolished. I dont think they should raise money for their candidate. I think everybody should stand on their merit. If you want to know the truth, no congressman that i can think of, very few of them have any merit as far as im concerned. Youd were not donating to any political party. You plan to donate to a political candidate . Caller i dont see what for. I will vote for him if i think he is worth voting for or she is voting for. Why should i spend my money . Host lets go to joe from pennsylvania. Joe plans to donate or volunteer. Good morning. Caller good morning. I am not volunteering this time around, although i have a lot of times. I have made some donations last election and this go around to bernie. Networks arehe even in on this. They want to push biden. I have watched joe biden all my life. , joe. Go along, get along my daddy used to say this. My daddy used to say that. This party needs to think big this time. The Republican Party has pushed things so far to the right. We need to do something bold. We need something with bernies thinking. People in this country are hurting. Your last show, there was a guy talking about how people are doing better off under donald trump. These are people that after the economy recovered, pentup demand, they are buying campers. Camping going to these parks. How about People Living in trailer parks . They cannot afford to go on vacation. This economy is hurting. Trump got between 1 billion in 2 billion of free air time. He was running the show because of his antics. Look at what they did for him. We are letting the three biggest takerks in this country our candidates. They are already doing it. Host lets talk to john, calling from las vegas, nevada. Good morning. There is no chance i would volunteer or donate to any campaign for the second branch. It has been corrupted since john tyler in 1842. George washington assured us we would be governed under this. If we check back on that, you can check john tylers letter to congress, june 23. Followed thet he advice given by George Washington and thomas jefferson. That was our first apportionment. Thomas jefferson opined that the application of one ratio would be intelligible, while the complex operations would never be comprehended by them, and while the people may acquiesce, they cannot understand. He gave a sixth reason. Host john, is this a new position for you, or have you volunteered for donated for campaigns in the past . Caller no. I probably volunteered. I may have donated in the past. I went down this revocable 10 years ago. Rabbit hole 10 years ago. From the time i was a kid, i believed we were flawed. Host lets go to james from new jersey. Caller good morning. Yes, i donate. I donate. Joe biden. He kind of stole my heart again. I dont have enough money to give. Irony give. I already give. Last campaign, i donate Bernie Sanders. Big time. Democrats of all things. Yes, i donate whenever i can. Host lets talk to katie, calling from maryland. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host you said you dont volunteer or donate to the campaign in 2020. Caller thats right. Thank you so much for cspan. I love it so much. Ongratulations on 40 years of people that i know, i dont have the time or the money. A lot of people i know can barely get out there to vote. As much as i would love to, i cannot even finish this show today. I have to go to work. Betty,ets talk to calling from fort worth, texas. Caller good morning. Host do you plan to volunteer or donate money . Caller yes. Host have you are ready done so . Caller i have already donated. I plan to donate some more. That if you to say come to fort worth, texas, if you think homelessness is a coast, you should come to fort worth, texas. T is bad when you look at the sunday supplement, the cheapest home you can buy is over 200,000. Who can buy a house making minimum wage . Host you say you have donated before. Have you always donated to just one political party, or do you give money to both Political Parties . Mostly i get to the democrats. I have a neighbor who was a local politician. I gave to him once. He was a republican. Money you getthe on National Politics goes to democrats . Caller yes. I am a democrat. If i know the person well, as i did my neighbor, who was a republican, i voted for him and gave money. I volunteered for him. I worked for him. Lets talk to virginia calling from illinois. Good morning. Morning. Ood do you plan to volunteer or donate for 2020 . Caller no. I cannot donate because i am 82, and i cannot afford it. They never give us a raise, and yet they want one all the time. If they did that come up people to donate. I will be voting for trump. The best thing since with cream. Host have you donated or volunteered in the past . Yes, a few years ago when i was younger and could stand on my feet. I just wanted to say that i have voted for democrats in the past good lord with this bunch. I dont see any of them that could be president. They are too far left. That is a shame. They are hurting themselves. Lets talk to ed, calling from houston, texas. Caller i have given money to democrats on and off since the 1970s and the tax credit was allowed by the irs. Takeu gave 20, you could 10 of tax credit. I have given to beto orourke for president. I did not even give him any money for senate last year. I did volunteer. I plan to do more as we approach the m as. Lovely, ielections democrats, support but there are a few independents and republicans that i like. By party inun houston. They run nonpartisan elections. Host you said you have donated to beto orourke in the past. You do not donate for his senate run. What made the difference . Caller i did not think he needed the money. He raised over 80 million. What a mainly did was give sweat equity. I volunteered and walked about 20 precincts for him. Host for those of us that dont know what block walking is unexplained what it is. Explain what it is. Go to what you do is you their house and knocked on the door and say i want to ask you to vote for beto orourke, and talk to them a little bit and give them a flyer, tell them where to vote. Peopleainly to get interested in the election. Host lets go to john calling from michigan. He says he is not going to volunteer or donate 2020. Good morning. Caller hello . Host go ahead. Youre on the air. Caller i think the whole system of donating to individual candidates is wrong. One candidate can have such a huge advantage with money that the other candidate might be better. You can take it or work as an example. He had funds coming from all over the country, not just from texas. He had a lot more money to run with. That is why i think all money should go into a general fund and get distributed equally among the candidates who are running in primaries or a general election. Host have you ever volunteered or donated . Caller no, i am an independent. I think there are too many extremists on both sides. I stay independent. I look at them individually. Host there are several independent president ial candidates, have you ever donated to them . Areer none of those people of the same mindset as i am. I tend to be independent survey. I dont volunteer for them. I dont volunteer. With the system we have now, you dont have a chance of ever getting there anyway. This twoparty system is too hard to collapse the thing to get a twoparty or four party system. Host lets go to amy. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host do you plan to donate or volunteer 2020 . Caller yes, i have been donating. I donated to a couple of candidates. Candidatesonating to that have taken about two not receive any corporate money, so that has left me, i basically only donated to Bernie Sanders, tulsi gabbard, and also andrew yang just to get him on the debate stage because i feel like he has something that needs to be heard as well. I donated to those three candidates. Eventually like to see us go to publicly funded elections. That is something i think bernie is going to do for us, just to get money out of politics so we can truly have a Representative Government that is of the people. Do you plan to continue to donate if none of your preferred . Andidates gets the nomination sure. probably im not so far, if they are taking corporate money, and that is all of them, Kamala Harris, joe , and even Elizabeth Warren. She started out saying she was not going to take money, but in the end, she is taking corporate money as well. If you take any corporate money, that kind of does it for me. I cannot support candidates that take corporate money anymore. Host lets talk to susan, calling from massachusetts. Good morning. Caller good morning. Im a lifelong republican. It is an uphill battle. The parties have a hold on what is going on. No one wants to consider anybody besides donald trump. I could not vote for donald trump. Do you plan to volunteer for his campaign . Caller i donated already. I will volunteer. I worked hard for Chris Christie when he ran. I like a strong candidate. I just wish some of the republicans would have more of a backbone and stand up to trump. Some of the things he is doing are not kosher. Campaign doesnt end up replacing President Trump , what will you do then . Will you volunteer for President Trump . What happens . Caller im going to have a big decision to make. It depends who else is on the ballot. I may sit it out. Massachusetts is a pretty democratic state. Your vote doesnt count for much anyway when it comes to the actual election. Lets go to tisha m calling from maryland. Good morning. Caller good morning. I am planning to volunteer. Im not sure about donating money. Maybe for 2020. I have not decided who i and going to put my efforts because i feel like it is too early to be doing this. Host have you ever donated or volunteer before . Caller i have at the state level, not for a president ial campaign. Host what is the difference between longterm for a state candidate . Do you get to do more work with the candidate . Are the issues closer to the voters . Caller i know the issues are closer to the voters. I campaigned for several women running to represent my state at the district level. My district at the state level. Keith, callingto from colorado. Caller good morning. I was listening to some of the comments. Im going to be supporting Kamala Harris. I believe she certainly has the bona fides to defeat donald trump. I think that is the issue people should be concerned about, they can sure this individual does not get a second term. I think she has the qualifications to do it. Whoever the democratic nominee is, im going to donate. Host have you donated or volunteered before . Caller i donated to the john mccain 2000 campaign and the 2008 barack obama campaign. Host have you ever done any volunteering . Caller i volunteered for several congressional campaigns back in the 1990s in georgia. April,ets talk to calling from michigan. Good morning. Go ahead. Caller hello . Host can you turn your television down . Caller yes, i will pause it. Host go ahead. Caller what do you want to know . I have donated already. Host who have you donated to . Was this an online donation . Did you go to the office . Caller online. I have never donated to a campaign before. I felt motivated, so i gave a recurring 25 a month. It is to marianne williamson. Out and you plan to go volunteer as well . Caller i probably dont have time. Im a doctor. Host is this your First Political donation . Caller it is my first time. Host how do you choose your candidates to donate to . I just chose 25 a month because in four months it already adds up to 100. It is the first time i have ever donated to a Political Campaign. I was amazed and shocked she was going to run for president because she is very well known to me from that famous book and she is just amazing, running on a platform of spirituality and love which is different from any other candidate. Host we would like to thank all of our callers for sounding in on their plans to volunteer and donate. Coming up, our weekly spotlight on magazine segment we will talk to Naomi Schaefer riley about her piece on charitable foundations efforts to change how they spend their money. Same on, john stanton of of save journalism problem project will talk about efforts to preserve local news outlets. This Holiday Weekend on American History tv, at 10 00 eastern on reel america the day honor american featured bob hope and billy graham. Problem never been a with our freedom of the press, open communication systems, we do not sweep arsons under the rug. Exists, ifension rights occur, the whole world knows about it. Instead of an iron curtain, we have a picture window. Eastern, at 6 00 p. M. Living history hobbyist portrays a soviet cavalry officer and discusses the soviet unions role in world war ii. Weone month before dday, had been occupying 65 of the best german troops fighting us. If we had not done that, if they moscow, orled at stalingrad, all of those troops could have well been on the normandy beaches. Is story that has to be told that russia had a significant contribution to winning the war. Watch on cspan3. Journalngton continues. Host we are back with our spotlight on magazine segment where we are going to be talking with Naomi Schaefer riley, a contribute to a contributor to Washington Examiner about her article. Good morning. What made you decide to focus on the issue of leftwing groups and philanthropy . Has been a move for a long time now to try and redirect the funding that is coming out of our big foundations. I think in the last couple of years, it started to ramp up and the pressure is mounting on foundations to contribute to more leftwing causes, and even, in the words of some of the activists, to engage in reparations. Foundations,u say what do you mean . I know we have had a lot of talk politically about the reparations to africanamericans. What are we talking about with foundations . Guest there is a group of activists who believe that the wealth in this country has been accumulated on the backs of slaves and other oppressed minorities, and only reason these foundations have the amount of money that they do is because of those oppressed groups. Therefore, it is their duty to start to give back to those groups explicitly, usually through different nonprofits that are supposedly serving those groups interest. Also behind that is the idea that because our foundations are not taxed the same way as other forprofit enterprises, that, therefore, the Foundation Money is really public money. As a result, the public should have some say in how the private Foundation Dollars are distributed. Are theo exactly justice funders . Is this a group or a coalition . Guest it is one of a number of different groups. You also have different academics, and other nonprofit activists on the ground. They are really largely saying the same thing, there is a man named rob who teaches at stanford, i contributor to the New York Times who has written about this. Time, they have formed this chorus of voices suggesting that philanthropic dollars are going to the wrong places. Some of these places have their own stake in the idea that the foundation should be giving money towards more activist groups, because the peoples criticizing the foundations represent the activists group. The green lighting institute, who are they . You wrote about them. Guest it is a nonprofit think tank type group in california, and they were formed probably about 15 years ago or so, and they pushed legislation in california, in particular that would require that foundations with more than 250 million in assets report on the diversity of their staff and board to the state governments. Towardis was an effort more transparency. What it turns into is a lot of ssure on the foundation and the diversities of their grantees. To try and pressure the foundations into giving to particular organizations. The problem with this is that foundations did not just spontaneously arrive. The money that comes from the foundations was made by a person or family who had a business and decided that they wanted to give their fortune to a particular cause. We call this donor intent. If you are a doctor who made a lot of money wanted to give your fortune after you died, or while you were alive to medical research, these activists would say, we think it is more worthy for you to be giving your dollars, not necessarily to medical research, to be donating more toward organizations that represent for oppressed people. The problem is that we are taking away the free agency of philanthropists to decide how to spend the money that they made, or that their parents or grandparents made. Should we be in the business of doing that . What happened with greenlining is that that they failed in their efforts about 12 years ago to enact this legislation that would pressure foundations to reveal diversity of their staff, boards, and grantees. Dealdid it by reaching a with nine of the largest foundations, where those foundations would promise to give a certain amount of their money to the kinds of causes that greenlining was in favor of. Buy happened was it did not them much time. It was a form of blackmail. Stopsaid, we will bothering you so much if you promise to give tax x amount of money. The problem is that 12 years later, it has not bought them anything. Now there is pressure, you can see in new york as well. A few years ago there was an effort to increase the transparency of nonprofits by encouraging them to reveal the racial makeup and the gender makeup, and Sexual Orientation makeup of their boards and staff. The mayor said, this is just about wanting to find out what is going on. Now the local government has said, if you do not adhere to these standards that we want, we will start taking away some of that local funding. There is a lot of pressure in these organizations. Host i want to read a little bit about your article from your article. The Foundation Diversity and Transparency Act did not pass the state senate, but only because 10 of the largest foundations agreed in advance to contribute an undisclosed amount of money, hundreds of millions of dollars to minority led organizations. It seems to be little doubt that they responded to a political threat. Robert ross reported that a candidate for the Los Angeles County board of supervisors to supervisors warned him, if you guys show some problemsolving Initiative Leadership on this, we will look kindly. In a year since, activists have continued to pile on. The Greenlining Institute attempted to get legislative past legislation passed in pennsylvania and florida. In the institute has been pushing for the end of the charitable tax deduction. Is it just the threat of it that is making the foundations do what these groups want them to . Guest it is the threat of it. Frankly, that is enough for a lot of these foundations. They are not necessarily engaged in these partisan kind of fights and they do not want the publicity that follows from one of these organizations go after them. They want to engage in their philanthropy, and give to the causes that their founders envisioned as being the most important. They do not want to get all the bad press that comes with an activist organization criticizing them for being racist or sexist, or prejudiced against people with different Sexual Orientations. These organizations want to go about their business. They are willing to pay quite a bit of money, you can say in a almostmost blackmail to not have this legislation go through, but also to avoid the bad press. Host if you want to join this conversation we will open up our foreign lines. Democrats, 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. Ndependents, 2027488002 keep in mind that we are always reading on social media and twitter at cspan wj, and facebook at facebook. Com cspan. Let us talk to keith from denver, colorado. On the democrat line. Morning. Caller good morning. Rankke up such conservative hypocrisy is unpleasant. Market,y love the free ,he public has every right particular people particularly people who have disenfranchised, to lobbies these to lobbies these organization for redress. That is an american principal, and you need to accept that american principal. It is not a far left thing. My family, who has been here since 1525, and included slaveowners, im africanamerican, my greatgrandmother was a slave owner in virginia. But, the wealth accrued in this country thatis made us an economic world powerhouse was based on the institution of slavery. It is not a debate whether or not that was wrong. Had deter slavery you facto slavery for 100 years. I am 60 years old. I do not think Martin Luther king was fighting against slavery, there was something else. We couldnt even go to universities and colleges. We could not swim in your pools. ,f you think that is whining then to go after foundations for redress when those foundations benefited from the sweat and blood of my family, i do not know when you emigrated here, when american simpson you are an american citizen. Your family did not build this country. Host go ahead and respond. Guest there are a number of different points that i would like to respond to. The first is the myth that all of the money comes from slavery. One thing you might want to look at is the regional distribution of wealth. The south has always been the poorest part of america. It was the poorest part of america during slavery and poor today. You would think that if slavery was really the source of all of american wealth, that the region of the country that had slavery and would be the wealthiest. This countrys wealth has been built on individual private enterprise and private property. A lot of the foundations that exist today are built on that. They are also foundations that already give a lot of money to the exact causes that we are talking about. Think about juicy and julius rosenwald, who was the person who founded the sears company. He gave the equivalent of hundreds of millions of dollars to build schools in the south for blacks after the end of slavery. I think you are not giving people enough credit when you think of just these foundations where only white people give to other white people to solve problems that really do not exist. I also think people underestimate when we talk about the biggest donations in the country in recent years, a lot of them have gone to universities and other kinds of medical research. That kind of Research Benefits everyone because we all get cancer, aids, and these diseases. Giving 500 million 500 Million Dollars to a university to research cures benefits all of us. How is it is how would it how is it beneficial to people among the oppressed minorities if we force people to direct their money away from medical research, where they wanted their money to go, and into urban activism causes . From let us talk to tommy tennessee on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thatld just like to say this thing we are having showed the redirected to those who actually live in states who those who lived in slave states, not in the midwest and california. It needs to be noted that more blacks came out of the caribbean than africa. There a lot of slaves who came from africa ended up jumping ship or shipwrecked, or dying of disease. A lot of people do not understand that. I think that people who dissent from slaves in the slave state should be the one who get reparations, not the midwest where they were free, or california. Thank you. Host how do you respond . Guest i think this is one of the biggest problems with the respirator with the reparations today in regards to foundations. To gets the money and who should be paid . There are people who move to the country last year . Are they getting reparations . You have other places in the world like the caribbean where slavery existed, but blacks who come here and were from the caribbean tend to do much better economically and educationally and those living here for hundreds of years. How is it that we are going to sort this out in some kind of historical fairway. It seems to me what we should be focused on is lifting everyone up through a system of free market and free enterprise, allowing people to make money, and also to be able to give that money to the causes that they think are most worthwhile. Finally i would say that it is not the causes we think are worthwhile, the government does not have a good record of helping oppressed minorities. A lot of the private foundations have done this much better through their own kinds of programs, through nonprofits. The idea that we will put the government in charge of that private money, and think they will do a better job of lifting people up seems to be unwise. Host most if not all of these foundations are private foundations set up by private donors and corporations. Does the government play in anything that they do . Guest there are certain regulations for those foundations. They have to pay out a certain minimum of their endowment each year. There are rules about the ways that they are governed in terms of their ability to take in money. There are all sorts of regulations around foundations, perhaps there are too many. Right now there are not regulations about what kind of causes that money can be directed to. Some people think that all Foundation Money should be given to the poor, or that all Foundation Money should be given to activist causes, or all money should be given to people who have not had advantages in the past. The problem is that we are a diverse country. People who make money have different ideas about the way that their philanthropy can improve the country. Hasink that this country the strongest history in the world of philanthropy. If we start to try and restrict where those donations can go, i think youll find fewer people wanting to engage in it. They will not be able to do what they think will help people the most. Foundationsese asking for government rules or regulations to prevent these activist groups from trying to divert their money to different causes that they think are better . Guest not typically that i know thesethink that foundations are actually themselves very diverse politically. Favorf them might protective legislation if it comes to that, some of them might not. It would be hard for me to imagine that they would all be working together on Something Like that. Mostly, i think they would agree that their boards and staff are best able to direct the money toward the cause that their founder and director errors found directors founded it for. Illinois, on the republican line. Good morning. Guest hello. I just thought of another question while on hold, are they attacking the questions that are more interested in international causes. I know bill gates was more interested in poverty and that, are they trying to get that to stay in america . Second question, some of these attacks when you talk about reparations, it seems to me that they are jumping the shark, going a bridge too far that makes a lot of people check out of the issue altogether. Questione second first, i think this is jumping the shark. I dont think that most americans, including most black americans are in favor. Most people think this is untenable. When you ask them, people who are in favor, how would this work, the answers are all over the place, and it is hard to see how this would not result in and weng core rancor already have in the country. The question on if the activists are trying to redirect the p philanthropy back into the country, there is the sense that why should these fulltime pests these philanthropists be going into africa and telling people they are what to do. But there is also this attempt the conversation domestically, which is odd. Internationally, most people can see how much worse off the rest of the world, in particular parts of the world, are they on the United States. Why would be why would we be trying to pressure people to bring them up bring the money back here instead of impoverished places . Host bill from illinois on the independent line. Good morning carried good morning. Caller good morning. My question is a constitutional question. There is nothing in the constitution that prohibits people from having all kinds of strange biases and preferences and rights of association. You cannot have a philanthropy that says this money can only be that admitschool white students, or only all have students, but people natural biases that are not precluded by the constitution. It seems to me that the people trying to force these foundations, they are basically removing that basic foundation of america. There are certain things in public life that we do not tolerate. From not prohibit people serving people in restaurants and etc. People have a right of association and people have all kind of quirky biases. Why should they be forced to give money when you should have the Public Square tell you what you should do with your money within certain restrictions. Host go ahead and respond. Guest there already are some rules in place. Most foundations, foundations generally have to give money to nonprofits. Particular tax status. In order to achieve nonprofit status, you have to abide by certain rules. There is a famous case where the federal government was involved with Bob Jones University where it had a rule against interracial dating. It was a case about whether Bob Jones University could have the tax benefit that it wanted, even though it was engaged in what was a completely bigoted rule. We have some regulations around the kinds of organizations that foundations can give to and get credit for the amount that they paid out on their interest. That being said, i think you are right. People have all sorts of strange causes they want to give to. It does not even have to necessarily do what their do with their inherent biases, the things that they are interested in. A bu grew up in a place where the schools were bad in terms of technical training, and you think that the key to improving your community is by teaching everyone to be a welder. You can decide that all you want to do is guild is to give all of your money to scholarships of people wanting to learn to weld. It is a niche kind of philanthropy, but that multiplied hundreds of thousands of times across this country every year. People are picking strange things, but they are related to their own interests and own life experiences. Who are we as the American Public or the federal government to try and enforce some kind of different interest on them that we do not have evidence any evidence would work better. To theet us go democratic line from north carolina. Caller is your night is your name naomi . Guest yes. Caller do you think everybody is equal . I thinkm sorry, do everyone is equal . Yes. Caller that being the case. Why do you think reparations are an attack on a foundation . Guest i think the Foundation Money is private money earned by people of all different races. Foundations are not just run by white people. This legislation means if a black person wanted to give away money in a particular way that the federal government could say i do not think that is a good idea i think you should give it to this cause instead. I do not think that is fair to anyone. Jack on the talk to independent line. Good morning carried morning. Caller i speak from the position of someone that has a Small Foundation. I started a business 35 years ago with 10,000 and we were lucky, it was successful. So my wife and i started a Small Foundation a number of years ago. If it ever got to the point where somebody was going to tell us what to do with money that we cease thed, we would corporation and give the money direct leave. On the kinds of places that we donate to, for instance we just gave money to a Little Organization called bugles across america, a fellow started the thing to provide military people or x military people who sound the taps at funerals for service members, a littleknown charity, but one that does a Wonderful Service for the families of fallen various, we give to hospitals, we give to religious organizations. Funds to lot of our ,arious cultural organizations the Broward Center in florida, and places of that sort. Money, weho made the who worked hard, i started with nothing, and we live in this great country which allowed us to make a few dollars and we feel that we ought to share it with others, but we make the decision. Government would step in and tell us we are to put that honey, we would just stop the foundation. Host go ahead and respond. Guest i think that that is a ready representation of smaller that is a good representation of smaller donors. Imagine not only putting in all of the work to make that business, but obviously, the kind of research and interests that you have to have defined the different causes that you have. The federal government is not going to do that. It has not done a good job over the years at antipoverty efforts are all sorts of other things. It is the small, local nonprofits that make this country what it is today. To try and get into the mind and the pockets of these small donors and tell them how best to spend their money really ignores the local and on the ground knowledge that many of these people have built up. Host we would like to thank Naomi Schaefer wiley riley, coauthor to be with us and tell us about this problem. Thank you so much. Caller thank you for having me. Host we will be talking about efforts to save local news with john stanton of the save journalism project. We will be right back. 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Sunday night at 8 00 eastern. Washington journal continues. Host we are back with john stanton, the cofounder of the save journalism project. Good morning. How are you doing . Host i am doing great. First of all, tell us what it is and what do you do . Project started this this year. , the organization is designed to do two things. One, raise Awareness Towards the problems that we are having in this country with journalism jobs and the collapse of local media, but National Media as well, and number of layoffs we have been having, and try to advocate for the interests of reporters and make sure that some changes are made that will ensure that we stop losing so many jobs that are vital to our communities. Host where does it get its funding from . Guest we get money from anonymous donors for their own reasons who are concerned about being out there publicly because of potential backlash from some of the people we are dealing with. Of ourly, it is because work around the issues of Big Tech Companies like google, apple, and facebook, and there control of advertisers. Host what is the state of Community Journalism in the United States . Is it Getting Better or worse . And, tell us what Community Journalism is . Guest what is Community Journalism is a great question. Oftentimes, when we talk about the impact of the loss of jobs in our industry, and communities we only focus on certain political issues, the corruption, that kind of thing, those are important issues, and, as someone who covered politics, those are an important issue, but extends beyond that. Local sportsom teams, High School Teams to whether or not the restaurant down the street from you have been caught serving rat meat. These are all of the rings that the Community Journalists were on. It is big business, or whether or not met the mcdonalds is good to eat. Journalists help inform their communities about these issues. Over the last several years, certainly over the last two decades. We have taken a big hit on the local level. The last few years, a lot of it has been driven by a collapse in the amount of revenue that news organizations are able to taken because Companies Like google and facebook control so much of the Online Advertising market that it is no longer enough money to go aloud to go around. Week thatwas the last the newspaper was publishing. 65 people lost their jobs there. Down,indicator is shut and we see in communities across the country newsrooms are shrinking, causing more and more problems to go unnoticed and unchecked. Website,king at your you have a bunch of statistics that are really pretty shocking. In 2019, 20 400 journalists have lost their jobs. Newsroom employees have been laid off in the last 10 years. 20 of all metropolitan newspapers have closed since 2004. What has been the effect of those job losses . Guest there has been a profound effect. If you look at issues in areas like flint, michigan, or here with the color option with the corruption in local and state governments. They may have been addressed worse they may have been addressed swiftly and it wouldve been more and more local news environments. Without that, it makes it more difficult for us to get a good picture of what is going on. It possible for politicians to really control the narrative a lot more carefully on their behalf. You go beyond the Public Opinion issues, you go things like the antivax movement. They come up at the same time we have seen a collapse in journalism. I do not think they are unrelated. As we lose journalists in our communities, states and states, they are creating spaces for Dangerous Things to happen. Host you brought up the vindicator and heres a quote from the general manager where he says as advertisers have moved to spending monday on facebook and google, they have reduced their spending on newspapers. Brickandmortar stores have had sales declines, which has resulted in less spending on newspaper advertising. During this time we continue to battle Electronic Media for advertising. Int role is big tech playing the demise and decline of local journalism . Guest you have to understand that the Companies Like facebook controlle primarily over 70 of the advertising market, and they control not only the marketplace itself, but they control the processes through which people buy and sell ads. They are covering the money on all ends. On the journalism side our revenue is coming from Online Advertising, whether it is national, or local. A lot of them are getting money from Online Advertising. When thesepany companies eat up all of that revenue, it makes it impossible for us to survive. Every month, we had more viewers and readers of our work. Was laid off in january, the primary reason was despite the fact we continue to grow our readership and prestige as an outlet, we were not making enough money off of the advertising. The advertising revenue was going down, and that is problematic and you are doing all the things you are supposed to be doing and you still are not able to make money. Talked about this earlier with some of our producers. People love their new their local newspaper but say they hate the media. What is that dichotomy where people hearing over and over that the media is biased, but one it comes to their local paper, they love their local paper . Is that a cause and effect . Guest a little bit. I think that there is an assumption of affect on media and their distaste for media. That kind oft reality. People love their local newspapers. If that was local newspapers would be fine and you wouldnt need to worry about losing the vindicator. Than anythingore else, people look at their local news and see themselves in some manner, whether or not it is their political beliefs, or religious beliefs. They see pictures of corners that they know with names of people that they know and it has a more real and immediate effect. I think that is really what drives a lot of the loyalty to those brands where as you read buzz feed or look at things from nbc news, and you are not going to feel the same kind of connection. Host let us let viewers join in. We are going to open up our phone lines by regions this morning for this last half hour. If you are living in the eastern or central time zone, call 2027488000. Eastern and central time zone, 2027488000. If you are in the mountain or pacific time zone, your number is 2027488001. Zone,in and pacific time 2027488001. Keep in mind that we are always reading on social media at onpanwj and facebook facebook. Com cspan. John, is this a rural problem, or an urban problem, or both . Guest it is both. It is particularly bad for rural areas. We talk we talked with some rural members of congress who have become concerned about the collapse of the news industry because of that. For them, they have a lot of trouble getting their information out there to their constituents, and the best way to do that is through the local news outlets. As i have collapsed in rural areas, it is getting harder for them to do. Said, here in new orleans, and youngstown, the bay area, it is just not a problem affecting one part of the situation. Greg let us talk to calling from whitewater, wisconsin. Morning. Caller i would like to commend cspan for taking on this issue because it is an important issue impacting not only my area but areas around the state. Now we are starting to see a consolidation of Companies Owning many of these small newspapers and i get worried about that because consolidation on either side is not good. By losing some of the consolidation you do not get the information you get when you create stories about our areas in my community. I am really worried about that, and i wonder what you are doing to deal with that issue in particular . That is a really guest that is a really great question and issue. That has been there has been weird and Disturbing Trends of hedge funds taking on local news outlets that has been very damaging, because what they are doing is not just ignoring the new side of things, they are just selling them off and collapsing them. That is extraordinarily dangerous. I think there is a separate issue where you have things like sinclair buying up small outlets and continuing to operate them with stripped down staff and you end up having news that does not address the local concerns the way that it once did. And ak it is dangerous malpractice of journalism to operate like that. That is a bit more of an issue difficult issue, because at this point they have not gotten into monopoly status, but at some point we are going to have to reckon with that and argue that they should not be continuing to eat up as much as a real estate as they do. Up gazette andht sinclair, is this a newspaper problem or a problem for local tv news. I know both sinclair and kennett have a and again that lot of tv stations. Guest it is less of an issue for tv now because our advertising is good. It is a digital and print edition problem for sure. I do think that even beyond that, if you look at radio, we are starting to see a contraction of public Radio Stations and other outlets of news, and i think those are a continuing part of this trend and symptom of the broader problem. Honestly, i think that no matter where we are going to be working, television, print journalist, or radio journalist. Having competition is healthy, and having a vibrant community of reporters is good. It helps you do better work and you do not have to cover all of the things going on. If you do not get that story, will sue at the local Radio Station will get it. Havecommunity is going to a good picture of what is going on. Host let us talk to gilbert from north carolina. Good morning carried good morning. Go ahead. I think we lost gilbert. Froms try susanna massachusetts. Good morning. We do have a local oldester, as americas fishing port, we have no coverage on the phenomenon that deathing this industry it knell. The reason for that is it cannot elevate, it has not been allowed legally. Our local paper has never covered it. It has covered a lot of other stuff, but the core reporting is missing on the core issue. I think it is because the market is so tiny and reporters have to be on good terms with the people who brought us into this nightmare. That is going up and down the new people and coastline. Is even the boston globe covering this. Limiting the shrinking of markets have peculiar consequence when an industry is frozen for 25 years and nobody writes about it. Host go ahead and respond. Guest there is an issue that is universal yonder the fishing industry or the region in which the caller was saying. There is a danger that when you d yourself as the loan lone voice in the market and there is a handful of you, and nobody is getting paid, there is going to always be the danger that your coverage is going to be affected by that. Think that is the concern. There have been instances in our history of journalists being forced to make questionable calls because of the reality that they do not have the money they need to do their job. I think that is something that we have a society have to be concerned with. Host one of our social media followed her followers walked wrote in said that i was a ofial media intern out college. Hours were long and pay was terrible. How do we convince journalism studio dunes to start at local journalism students if hours are long and pay is terrible. How do you convince people . Guest part of it that there needs to be jobs. More importantly, the one thing that i would say is that i do not know how hard it is to convince people to go work at those jobs. I think that most journalist get into this job, and they never expect to get rich. You know you will not make money. You know this is not a way to become a powerful person. You do it because you care about it, and i think that short of journalists that go to some of the biggest schools in the country or the big names, harvard, and those kind of places, i think most journalism journalists if they go to Journalism School are already working as Community Journalists. The transition into the next job will be fairly easy. At the same time, i believe that we should pay them more money. I think that, as an industry, that is a thing we should be concerned with. They do a lot of work and it becomes the basis of what National Journalists do. The process of stealing stories from local journalists have been has been going on for a long time, and they need to be comp and they need to be compensated fairly. Host what is your plan to save local journalism . Guest i think the first step is try to commence my friends in the industry that we need to stop pretending like our interests do not exist. We call it the separation of church and state, and it has served us very well as journalists, because it has kept journalists on the editorial side of things away from the business side in the business away from us. We try not to become advocates for things and try not to have a personal bias or opinions shine through. Ushink that it has served well, however, when it is our livelihoods that are at stake, means, it isnalism incumbent on us to talk and advocate for it. The first step is for journalist to comfortable with the idea that they can and should talk about their work. The other thing we need to do is to rein in these Big Tech Companies. They are digital robber barons stripmining our industry. They need to be broken up in some manner so that they do not have this type of control over advertising sources. Host jeanette from washington, d. C. Good morning. Caller good morning. First i want to stay to say that i am rooting for you, because i do feel journalism is important. Earlier the host posed a question of why people love their local newspaper but hate media, and i think, just for myself, it is because i learned something from my local media. Outlets, i newspaper learned something about what is happening in my community, even if it is Something Like a restaurant or some buildings built. Information, i did watch something not too long ago on cspan about information terrorism, and i wonder if sometimes that is creeping in and happening, because a lot of these things are more entertainment than they are actual fact, and we do need to thank people like maury coleman that shined a light on syria. I just want to end with this. I recently read fear and loathing, and he has a whole niche of journalism that he kind of created, and i wonder what would somebody like him think today of what is happening in the world and with media media and journalism. Host go ahead. I hate to see what he might think. Beyond the fact that he would be concerned with where journalism has come right now. Over the last few years, in that context we have learned to speak to power in a way that we had forgotten. I think that has been good, but i do think that the contraction of the industry means that there are fewer people willing to do that, just bad. Community,t in the it is the reason people like their local papers. It is a vitally important function at the newspapers and television, and radio provide. Shore thatjpre up soon, you will get what ever the big Box Companies or what people who have control of things want you to know. That is extraordinarily dangerous. Host let us talk to tony, from illinois, good morning. Caller good morning. I am going to thank cspan, and i agree with jen and journalism. I am kind of interested in the i am just wondering what he deceives what he receives and what do the donors pay for. Guest i get paid. I do not get paid a lot, but i get paid. Host let us go to bill from las vegas. Good morning. Caller i would like to make a comment that i believe that we need diversification is important, and i do not currently see that going on locally or nationally with the monopolies going on. Andourse, mergers acquisitions, it is sad. I think it is a sad state for journalism. And, i think we need more opinions for all political sections of the country, and stuff. I think that is where we are at. What areng forward your thoughts towards monopolies. Think that diversity is a real concern when it comes to what is going on with the industry, and it goes with the contraction. There are three stages that are the concern. One for people of color, one is with women, and one for people not in washington, new york, or l. A. , particularly in national news. Of fortunately, a lock news,ot of nash local a lot of judgments are being made on what those markets want. Are the lastor hired in the first fired. With women, we have seen a number of women being laid off despite the fact that we were making pretty good ground from the abysmal state of the industry we were five or 10 years ago. We saw a lot of people starting to come in, and that has really collapsed and retrenched. Outlets need to be ,iring people for washington new york, and l. A. , and the need to bring pieces people from other places so they have a diversity of opinions. Jobs, losinglosing money, and having monopolies controlled by people based in these three specific places is very dangerous. Host let us take one more caller, greg from springville, virginia. Good morning. Caller yes. The absence of local news has contributed to a coarsening of our Public Discourse because what we get is put up on the desk journalist who calls another journalist at the New York Times or the latest author who has a hard edge political story and that is what we are getting instead of what is happening on the street. On thehing happened street with a plane going down, baltimore, dubya bal was right there, but it is one story after another from the latest author or columnist who has some hardedged national story. That is part of the problem. When you are a local news outlet, and you no longer have local journalists, you have to pull content from wire journalists that do not serve your communitys needs as well. Host we would like to thank john for being with us today talking about the state of Community Journalism. Guest thank you. Our we would like to thank guests, our callers, and our viewers who stuck around with us today. Come back tomorrow morning for another episode. Have a great saturday. [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] next on cspan, a forum examines ways to reduce injury risks among studentathletes. Then executives from facebook, google come and twitter testify at the capitol on ways to combat hate speech. Later a discussion on congressional term limits. On newsmakers, stephanie strategy and about priorities heading into the 2020 election. 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