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>> these the deals on happening before there shot with georgia, a key battleground state in the race for the white house in just moments, the current us president will debate the former us president as their parties presumptive nominees a first in american history, we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world to our studios in atlanta. >> this is the cnn presidential debate this debate is being produced by cnn and it's coming to you live on cnn cnn international, cnn.com, cnn max, and cnn espanol. this is a pivotal moment between president joe biden and former president donald trump. in their rematch for the nation's highest office, each will make his case to the american people with just over four months until election day good evening. i'm dana bash, anchor of cnn's inside politics and co-anchor of state of the union. >> object, tapper, anchor of cnn's the lead and co-anchor of state of the union dana and i will co-moderate this evening. >> our job is to facilitate a debate between the two candidates tonight before we introduce them, we wanted to share the rules of the debate with the audience at home. former president trump will be on the left side of the screen. president biden will be appearing on the right. a coin toss determined their positions each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question and one minute each for responses and rebuttals. and additional minute for follow-up clarification or response is at the moderator's discretion. >> when it's time for our candidate to speak, his microphone will be turned on and his opponent's microphone will be turned off to the candidate. >> interrupt when his microphone is muted, he will be difficult to understand for viewers at home at the end of the debate, each candidate will get two minutes for closing statements. there is no studio audience tonight pre-written notes, props, or contact with campaign staff are not permitted during the debate by accepting our invitation to debate both candidates and their campaigns agreed to accept these rules now please welcome the 46th president of united states, joe biden and please welcome the 45th president of the united and it states. donald trump gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. let's begin the debate and let's start with the issue that voters consistently say is their top concern. the economy. president biden inflation has slowed, but prices remain high since you took office, the price of essentials has increased for example, a basket of groceries that cost $100, then, now costs more than $120. and typical home prices have jumped more than 30% what do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency than they were under president trump. >> we're going to take a look at what i was left. i became president who what mr. trump left me. we had an economy that was in freefall the pandemic was so badly handled. many people were dying. all he said was it's not that serious, just in technical bleaching your honor, could be. all right become to be collapsed, renewed jobs unemployment rate rose to 15%. it was terrible and so what we had to do is try to put things back together again. that's exactly what we began to do. we created 15,000 new jobs we brought out and a position where we have 800,000 new manufacturing good jobs. but there's more to be done. there's more to be done. working class people are still in trouble. i come from scranton, pennsylvania. i come of household where the kitchen table if things weren't able to be met during the month, was a problem. price of eggs, the price of gas, the price of housing, the price of a whole range of things. that's why i'm working so hard to make sure i deal with those problems. we're going to make sure that we have reduced the price of housing. we're going to make sure we build 2 million new units. we're going to make sure we cap rents. so corporate greed can't take over the combination. what i was left with and corporate greed are the reason why reagan's problem right now. in addition to that, we're in a situation where if you had take a look at all that was done at his administration he didn't do much at all by the time he left or things were in chaos, literally chaos and so we put things back together. we created, i said those jobs, we make sure we had a situation where we now we brought down the price of prescription drugs, which is a major issue for many people to $15 for for someone shot as opposed to $400? no senior has to be more than $200 for any drug. all the drugs they can include beginning next year. and the situation is making and we're going to make that available to everybody to all americans so we're working to bring down the price of keramik kitchen table. and that's what we're going to get done thank you. >> you president trump. >> where the greatest economy in the history of our country. >> and we have never done so well every everybody was amazed by it. other countries were copying us. we got hit with covid and when we did, we spent the money necessary, so we wouldn't end up in a great depression. the likes of which we had in 19 29. by the time we finished. so we did a great job. we've got a lot of credit for the economy, a lot of credit for the military and no wars and so many other things. everything was rocking good. but the thing we never got the credit for and we should have is getting us out of that covid mess he created mandates that was a disaster for our country, but other than that, we had, we had given them back a a country where the stock market actually was higher than pre-covid. and nobody thought that was even possible. the only jobs he created are for illegal immigrants and bounce-back jobs. a bounce-back from the covid. he has not done a good job. he's done a poor job in inflation's killing our country. it is absolutely killing us. >> thank you, president biden well, look, the greatest economy in the world he's the only one thinks that i think i don't want anybody else has thinks the agree have the greatest communist rule and the fact that the matter is that we pride ourselves in a situation where his economy, he rewarded the wealthy. >> you had the largest tax cut in american history, $2 trillion he raised the deficit larger than any president has in any one term is the only president other than herbert hoover who has lost more jobs than he had when he began since herbert hoover the idea that he did something that was significant and the military you know, when he was president, there is still killing people and afghan he didn't do anything about that when he was president, we were still find ourselves in a position where you had a notion that we were this safe country. truth is, i'm the only president this century that doesn't have any this, this decade that don't have any troops dying anywhere in the world, like he did president trump, i want to follow up if i can, you want to respond to him well, i'm going to ask you a follow-up. you can do whatever you want with the minute that we gave you. i want to follow up. you want to impose a 10% tariff on all goods coming into the u.s. how will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even higher not going to drive them higher. it's just going to cause countries that have been ripping us off the years like china and many others in all fairness to china. it's going to just force them to pay us a lot of money, reduce our deficit tremendously, and give us a lot of power for other things. but he, he made a statement. the only thing he was right about is i gave you the largest tax cut in history. i also gave you the largest regulation cut in history that's why we had all the jobs and the jobs went down and then they bounced back and he's taking credit for bounce-back jobs. you can't do that. he also said he inherited 9% inflation. no, he inherited almost no inflation and it stayed that way for 14 months. and then it blew up under his leadership because they spent money like a bunch of people that didn't know what they were doing and they don't know what they were doing the worst probably the worst administration in history. there's never been as far as afghanistan is concerned, i was getting out of afghanistan, but we were getting out with dignity, with strength, with power. he got out. it was the most embarrassing de the history of our country's life. >> president trump, over the last eight years under both of your for administrations, the national debt soared to record highs. and according to a new non-partisan analysis, president trump, your administration approved 8.4 trillion in new debt, while so far president biden, you've approved 4.3 trillion in new debt. so former president trump, many of the tax cuts that you signed into law are set to expire next year. you want want to extend them and go even further. you say with the u.s. facing trillion-dollar deficits and record debt, why should top earners and corporations pay even less in taxes than they do now, because the tax cuts spurred the greatest economy that we've ever seen just prior to covid and even after covid, it was so strong that we are able to get through covid much better than and just about any other country. but we spurred that tax, spurred now, when we cut the taxes as example, the corporate tax was cut down to 21% from 39%. plus beyond that, we took in more revenue with much less tax and companies were bringing back trillions of dollars back into our country. the country is going like never before. and we were ready to start paying down debt. we're ready start using the liquid gold right under our feet. the oil and gas right under our feet, we were going to have something that nobody else has had. we got hit with covid. we did a lot to fix it. i gave him an unbelievable situation with all of the therapeutics and all of the things that we came up with we gave him something great. remember, more people died under his administration, even though we had largely fixed it, more people died under his administration than our administration and we were right in the middle of it, something which a lot of people don't like to talk about. but he had far more people dying in his administration. he did the mandate, which is a disaster mandating it. the vaccine went out. he did a mandate on the vaccine, which is the thing that people most objected to about the vaccine. and he did a very poor job, just a very poor job. and i will tell you, not only poor there, but throughout the entire world, we're no longer respected as a country they don't respect our leadership. they don't respect the united states anymore. we're like a third world nation between weaponization of his election, trying to go after his political opponent all of the things he's done. we've become like a third world nation. and it's a shame that damage he's done to our country. and i'd love to ask him and will why he allowed i'd millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails, and mental institutions to come into our country and destroy our country. >> president trump, we will get to immigration later in this block. president biden, i want to give you an opportunity to respond to this question about the national debt he had the largest national debt of any president for your period. number one number two? he that $2,000,000,000,000 tax cut benefited the very wealthy i went i'm going to do is fix the texas, for example we have 1,000 trillionaires in america. i mean, billionaires in america. and what's happening they're in a situation where they in fact pay 8.2% in taxes. if they just paid 24% 25%, either one of those numbers, they'd raised $500 million billion dollars, i should say, in a ten-year period, we'd be able to right. wipe out his debt. we'd be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do childcare, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our healthcare system. making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what i've been able to do with the the covid excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with if we finally beat medicare. thank you, president biden, president trump was right. >> he did beat medicare, beat it to death, and he's destroying medicare because all of these people are coming in. they're putting them on medicare. they're putting them on social security, they're going to destroy social security. this man is going to single-handedly destroy social security these millions and millions of people coming in. they're trying to put them on social security he will wipe out social security. he will wipe out medicare. so he was right in the way he finished that sentence. and it's a shame. what's happened to our country in the last four years? this is not to be believed. foreign countries. i'm friends with a lot of people. they cannot believe what happened to the united states of america. we're no longer respected they don't like us. we give them everything they want and they they think we're stupid. they think we're very stupid people. what we're doing for other countries, and they do nothing for us what this man has done is absolutely criminal. >> thank you, president trump, dana. >> this is the first presidential election since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade. this morning, the court ruled on yet another abortion case, temporarily allowing emergency abortions to continue in idaho despite that state's restrictive ban former president trump, you take credit for the decision to overturn roe v. wade, which returned the issue of abortion to the states, correct. however the federal government still plays a role in whether or not women have access to abortion pills they're used in about two-thirds of all abortions. as president, would you block abortion medication first of all, the supreme court just approved the abortion pill. >> and i agree with their decision to have done that. and i will not block it. and if you look at this whole question that you're asking a complex but not really complex. 51 years ago you had roe v wade and everybody wanted to get it back to the states. everybody without exception, democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives. everybody wanted to back religious leaders and what i did is i put three great supreme court justices on the court and they happened and vote in favor of killing roe v wade and moving it back to the states. this is something that everybody wanted. now, ten years ago or so, they started talking about how many weeks and how many this are getting into other things. but every legal scholar throughout the world, the most respected, wanted it brought back to the states. i did that now the states are working it out. if you look at ohio, it was a decision that was it was an end result. that was a little bit more liberal than you would have thought kansas, i would say the same thing texas is different, florida is different, but they're all making their own decisions right now and right now, the states control it. that's the vote of the people like donald reagan, i believe in the exceptions, i am a person that believes and frankly, i think it's important to believe in the exceptions. some people you have to follow your heart, some people don't believe in that but i believe in the exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother. i think it's very important. some people don't follow your heart, but you have to get elected it also. and because that has to do with other things you've got to get elected. the problem they have is they're radical because they will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month, and even after birth, after birth, if you look at the former governor of virginia, he was willing to do this. he said, we'll put the baby aside and we'll determine what we do. with a baby, meaning we'll kill the baby. what happened is we brought it back to the states and the country is now coming together on this issue. it's been a great thing. thank you, president biden, it's been a terrible thing. what you're done, the fact is that the vast majority of constitutional scholars supported roe when it was decided supported roe i was that's this idea that they were all against. it is just ridiculous. this is a guy who says the states should be able to have it. we're in a state where in six weeks you don't even know whether you're pregnant or not, but you cannot see the doctor heavier and have him decide on what your circumstances are, whether you need help, the idea that states are able to do this this is a little like saying, we're going to turn civil rights back to the states. each state have a different rule. look, there's so many young women who have been including a young woman who just was murdered and he, he went to the funeral idea that she was murdered by a by, by an immigrant coming in and they talk about that here's the deal. there's a lot of young women will be raped by their, by their in-laws, by their, by their spouses brothers and sisters, by just it's just ridiculous. and they can do nothing about it. they tried to rest of my across state lines. thank you. >> there have been many young women murdered by the same people. he allows to come across our border. we have a border that's the most dangerous place anywhere in the world considered the most dangerous place anywhere in the world. and he opened it up. and these killers are coming into our country. and they are raping and killing women. and it's a terrible couple thing as far as the abortion is concerned, it is now back with the states. the states are voting and in many cases they, it's frankly a very liberal decision in many cases, it's the opposite. but they're voting and it's bringing it back to the vote of the people, which is what everybody wanted, including the founders, if they knew about this issue, which frankly they didn't but they would have everybody wanted brought back ronald reagan wanted it brought back. he wasn't able to get it. everybody wanted it brought back. and many presidents had tried to get it back. i was the one to do it. and again, this gives it the vote of the people. and that's where they wanted it. every legal scholar wanted it that way. staying on the topic of abortion, president biden, seven states. i'll let you do that. this is the same topic, seven states have no legal restrictions on how far into a pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion. do you support any legal limits on how late a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy? >> roe v. wade, which had three trimesters. first time is between a woman and a doctor second time is between the doctor and an extreme situation. a third time is between the doctor. i mean, it'd be between the woman and the state. the idea that the politicians at the founders wanted, the politicians to be the ones making decisions about women's health is ridiculous. that's the last no politician making that decision, a doctor should be making those decisions. that's how it should be run that's what you're going to do. and if i'm elected, i'm going to restore roe v. wade so that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month. and even after birth because some states democrat-run take it after birth again, the governor, former governor of virginia with the baby down, then we decide what to do with it. so he's in he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month and kill the baby. nobody wants that to happen. democrat or republican, nobody wants it to happen that is simply not true. that roe v. wade does not provide for that. that's not the circumstance. only woman's life is in danger if she's going to die. that's the only circumstance in which that can happen. but we are not for late term abortion period period, period under roe v wade, you have late term abortion you can do whatever you want depending on the state, you can do whatever you want. we don't think that's a good thing. we think it's a radical thing. we think the democrats are the radicals, not the republicans. 51 years. that was the law. 51 years constants are scholarships said it was the right way to go 51 years. and it was taken away because this guy put very conservative members on the supreme court. he takes credit for taking it away. what's he going to do? what's he going to do? in fact, if if the maga republicans he gets elected and the maga republicans control the congress and they pass a universal ban on abortion period across the board we're at six weeks or seven or eight or ten weeks, something very, very conservative. you going to sign that bill. i'll veto it. he'll sign it. >> thank you this election season, cnn has you covered, no matter the question from more about the candidates, two rules in your state to cast your ballot. >> the cnn folder handbook has your answers. visit cnn.com slash vote for yours let me introduce you to plus 500. the intuitive and easy to use trading 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you miss it vague chevy scott, chevrolet together, let's drive tomorrow on the whole story. short van was an american waters dive into the debate between conservation fischer and sharp gutters story with anderson cooper tomorrow at doctors preferred better science, better results let's turn now to the issue of immigration and border security. president biden, a record number of migrants have illegally crossed the southern border on your watch. overwhelming border states and overburdening cities such as new york and chicago. and in some cases causing real safety and security concerns given that, why should voters trust you to solve this crisis? because we worked very hard to get a bipartisan agreement that not only changed all of that, make sure that we are in a situation where you had no circumstance where they could come across the border with the number of border police now we significantly increase the number asylum officers significantly. bye-bye. the border patrol men endorsed me, endorsed my position in addition to that, we find ourselves in a situation where when he was president, he was taking, separating babies from their mothers, putting them in cages, making sure the families were separated that's not right way to go. what i've done since i've changed the law, what's happened, i've changed it in a way that now you're in a situation where there are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally as better than when he left office i'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the the total initiative relative to what we can do with more border patrol and more asylum officers. president trump, i really don't know what he says. the end of their sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either. we had the safest border in the history of our country the board only had to do is leave it all he had to do was leave it. he decided to open up our border, open up our country to people that are from prisons people that are from mental institutions, insane asylum, terrorists. we have the largest number of terrorists coming into our country, right? now. all terrorists all over the world, not just in south america, all over the world. they come from the middle east everywhere, all over the world. they're pouring in this guy just left it open and he didn't need legislation because i didn't have legislation. i said close the border. we had the safest border in history in that final couple of months of my presidency, we had according to border patrol, who is great and by the way, who endorsed me for president, but i won't say that. but they endorsed me for president brandon, just speak to them but look, we had the safest border in history. now we have the worst border in history. there's never been anything like it, and people are dying all over the place, including the people that are coming up president biden, the only terrorist done anything crossing the border is one who came along and killed three and hugs administration, killed if no perfect command administration, killed three american soldiers, killed three american soldiers. that's the only terrorist i'm not saying no terrorist ever we got through with the idea. they're emptying their prisons. we're welcoming these people as simply not too. there's no data to support what he said. once again, he's exaggerating. he's lying president trump staying on the topic of immigration, you've said that you're going to carry out, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation in american history, unquote. does that mean that you will deport every undocumented immigrant in america, including those who have jobs, including those whose spouses are citizens and including those who have lived here for decades. and if so how will you do it? just one second. he said we killed three people the people we killed are al-baghdadi and salah, mainly the two greatest stairs, biggest terrorists anywhere in the world. and it had a huge impact on everything, not just border, on everything he's the one that killed people with the bad water including hundreds of thousands of people dying and also killing our citizens when they come in. we, we are living right now in a rat's nest. they're killing our people in new york and california. and every state in the union because we don't have borders anymore, every state is now a border and because of his ridiculous insane and very stupid policies, people are coming in and they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never said. we call it migrant crime. i'd call it biden migrant crime. they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen before. and you're reading it like these three incredible younger over the last few days one of them i just spoke to the mother and they just had the funeral for this girl 12-years-old. this is horrible. what's taken place, what's taken place in our country. we're literally an uncivilized country now he doesn't want it to be, he just doesn't know he opened the borders. nobody's ever seen anything like and we have to get a lot of these people out and we have to get them out fast because they're going to destroy our country. just take a look at where they're living they're living in luxury hotels in new york city and other places are veterans are on the street. they're dying because he doesn't care about our veterans. he does he doesn't like the military at all and he you care about our veterans. nobody had been worse. i had the highest approval rating for veterans taking care of the va he has the worst he's gotten rid of all the things that i approved choice that i got through congress, all of the different things i approved. they abandoned. we had by far the highest and now it's down in less than half because he's done all these great things that we did. and i think he did it just because i approved it, which is crazy. but he has killed so many people at our border by all of these people to come in very sad de in america biden you have the mic, every single thing he said is a lie. every single one. for example, veterans are a hell of a lot better off since i passed the pact act 1 million of them now have insurance and their families have it, and their families have it because what happened, whether was agent orange or burn pits, they're all being covered now. and he opposed his group opposed that we're also in a situation where we have great respect for veterans. my spent my son spent a year in iraq living next to one of those burn pits in back with stage four glioblastoma. i was recently in in france from d de and i spoke to all about those heroes that died. i went to the world war two cemetery where we're once i'm refused to go to he was standing with his four-star general and he told me said, i don't want to go in there because they're my toe loser. suckers. my son was not a loser, was not a sucker. you're the sucker. you're the loser. >> president trump first of all, that was a made-up quote, suckers and losers. they made it up. it was in a third-rate magazine that's failing like many of these magazines. he made that up. he put it in commercials. we've notified them we had 19 people that said i didn't say it and think of this, who would say i'm at a cemetery or i'm talking about our veterans because nobody's taken better care. i'm so glad this came up and he brought it up. there's nobody that's taken better care of ourselves is that i have to think that i would in front of generals and others say suckers and losers. we have 19 people that said it was never said by me. it was made up by him just like russia. russia, russia was made up just like the 51 intelligence agents are made up. just like the new thing with the 16 economists are talking to the same thing. 51 intelligence agents said that the laptop was russia disinformation. it wasn't that came from his son hunter. it wasn't russia disinformation. he made up the suckers and losers, so he should apologize to me right now. >> four star general standard, your side was on your staff who said you said it? >> period. that's number one. and number two, the idea the idea that i have to apologize to you for anything along the line. we've done more for veterans. any president has in american history american history now, or their family, the only sacred obligation we have as a country is to care for our veterans may come home and their families and equip them when they go to war that's what we're doing. that's what the va is doing. now. they're doing more for veterans than ever before in our history. >> all right. thank you so much i've been waiting for this all you can see shortly. >> large sunday, july seventh, and discovery and stream on max. >> hi, there. >> i'm an ad. ever noticed how some ads just speak to choose bias, ai driven tools to plan, execute, and measure your connected tv campaigns on premium inventory, choose wisely, choose by it this summer snacking just got serious introducing new $3 footlong divers 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president trump russian president vladimir putin says he'll only les end this war if russia keeps the ukrainian territory, it has already claimed. and ukraine abandons its bid to join nato. are putin's terms acceptable to you. >> first of all, our veterans and our cell jews can't stand this guy they can't stand him. they think he's the worst commander in chief if that's what you call them that we've ever had. they can't stand him. so let's get that straight. and they like me more than just about any of them. and that's based on every single bit of information. as far as russia and ukraine, if we had a real president, the president that knew that was respected by putin he would have never, he would have never invaded ukraine. a lot of people are dead, right now, much more than people know. they talk about numbers. you can double those numbers, maybe triple those numbers he did nothing to stop it. in fact, i think he encouraged russia from going in. i tell you what happened. he was so bad with afghanistan. it was such a horrible embarrassment. most it's embarrassing moment in the history of our country that when putin watched that and he saw the incompetence that he should, he should have fired those generals like i fired the one that you mentioned. and so he's got no love lost, but he should have fired those generals. no general got fired for the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, afghanistan, where we billions of dollars of equipment behind, we lost 13 beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers were obliterated and by the way, we left people behind too. we left american citizens behind when putin saw that he said you know what, i think we're gonna go in and maybe take my this was his dream. i talked to him about it. his dream. the difference is he never would have invaded ukraine, never just like israel would have never been invaded. it 1 million years by hamas. you know why? because iran was broke with me, i wouldn't let anybody do business with them. they ran out of money. they were broke, they had no money for hamas. they had no money for anything no money for terror. that's why you had no terror at all? during my administration. this place, the whole world is blowing up under him president biden i've never heard so much malarkey in my whole life. >> look the fact of the matter is that we're in a situation where let's take the last point first. i iran attacked american troops, killed, caused brain damage for a number of these troops. and he did nothing about it recently when he was president. they attacked he said they're just having headaches. that's all it is but he didn't do a thing when the attack took place. number one. number two, we got over 100,000 americans and others out of afghanistan during that airlift. number three, we found ourselves in a situation where if you take a look at what trump did ukraine, he's this guy told you cry. he told trump, do whatever you want and do whatever you want and that's exactly what trump did to, fruit and encouraged him do whatever you want. anyone and listen to what he said when he minute was going to take kyiv in five days. remember, because it's part of the old soviet union that's what he wanted to re-establish. kyiv. and he in fact didn't do it at all. he didn't month unable to get it done. and they've lost over they've lost thousands and thousands of troops 500,000 troops present and trump, i never said that for one minute. i just want to go back to my original question, which is, are putin's terms acceptable to you? keeping the territory no, they're not acceptable but look, this is a war that never should have started if we had a leader in this war, he led everybody along. >> he's given $200 billion now or more to ukraine. he's given $200 billion. that's a lot of money. i don't think there's ever been anything like it every time that zelenskyy comes to this country, he walks away with 60 billion, is the greatest salesman ever. and i'm not knocking him. i'm not knocking anything. i'm only saying the money that we're spending on this war and we shouldn't be spending it should have never happened. i will have that war settled between putin and zelenskyy as president-elect before i take office on january 20, i'll have that war settled people being killed. so needlessly, so stupidly. and i will get it settled and i'll get it settled fast before i take office you have to minute. the fact is that putin is a war criminal he's killed thousands and thousands of people. and he has made one thing clear. he wants to re-establish what was part of the soviet empire, not just a piece he wants all of ukraine. that's what he wants and then you think he'll stop there. do you think he'll stop when he if he if he takes ukraine, what do you think happens to poland? what did they get? what do you think happens to those nato countries so if you want a war, you ought to find out what he's going to do. because if in fact he does what he says and walks away. by the way, all that money we give ukraine and from weapons we make here in the united states, given the weapons not the money at this point. and our nato allies have produced as much funding for ukraine as we have. that's why it's, that's why we're strong. >> thank you. moving on to the middle east. in october, hamas attacked israel, killing more than 1,000 people and taking hundreds of hostages among those held and thought to still be alive are five americans israel's response has killed thousands of palestinians and created a humanitarian crisis in gaza president biden you've put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict. but so far hamas has not released the remaining hostages and israel is continuing its military offensive in gaza. so what additional leverage will you use to get hamas and israel to end the war? you have two minutes. >> i'm the one. everyone from this is curious. security council, straight through to the g7 to the israeli and netanyahu himself have endorsed the plan i put forward, endorsed the plan. i put four which has three stages to it. the first stage is to treat the hostages for a ceasefire. second phase is a ceasefire with additional conditions. and third phase is know the end of the war. the only one who wants the war to continue is hamas number one, they're the only ones stand now, we're still pushing hard from to get them to accept. in the meantime, what's happened in israel, we're finally the only thing i've denied israel was 2000 pound bombs. they don't work very well in populated areas. they kill a lot in some people we providing israel with all the weapons they need. and when they need them. and by the way, i'm the guy that organized the world against iran when they had a full-blown in a mostly elastic missile attack on israel. no one was hurt, nobody one is israeli was accidentally killed. and it stopped. we saved israel. we are the biggest producer of support for israel of anyone in the world. and so that's they are two different things. hamas cannot be allowed to be continued. we continue to send our experts and our intelligence people to how they can get hamas, like we did bin laden. you don't have to do it. and by the way, they've been greatly the week into mass, greatly weakened, and they should be they should be eliminated. but you've got to be careful for what you use these certain weapons among population centers just going back to ukraine for one second. we have an ocean separating us. the european nations together have spent 100 billion or maybe more than that, less than us why doesn't he call them? so you got to put up your money like i did with nato. i got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars a secretary general of nato said trump did the most incredible job i've ever seen. you wouldn't they wouldn't have any they were going out of business. we were spending almost 100% of the money was paid by us he didn't do that he's getting all you got to ask these people to put up the money were over $100 billion more spent and it has a bigger impact on them because of location, because we have an ocean in between, you've got to ask him as far as israel and hamas, israel is the one that wants good. he said, the only one who wants to keep going is hamas actually israel is the one. and you should let them go and let them finish the job. he doesn't want to do it. he's become like a palestinian. but they don't like him because he's a very bad palestinian. he is a weak one president biden, you have a minute i've never heard so much foolishness. this a guy who wants to get out of nato, you're going to stay in data. you're going to pull out a nato the idea that we have our strength lies in our alliances as well it may be a big ocean, but we're ever able to avoid a war in europe, a major war in europe. what happens if fact you have putin continue to go in and the nato, we have an article five agreement attack on one is attack on all. you want to start the nuclear war. he keeps talking about, go ahead. let putin go in and control ukraine and then move on to poland and other places. she see what happens. then. he has no idea what tell he's talking about by the way, i got 50 other nations around the world to support ukraine, including japan and south korea, because they understand that this was this, this kind of dislocation as a serious threat to the whole world. peace no, no major war in europe has ever been able to be dan, just to europe president trump, just to follow would you support the creation of an independent palestinian state in order to achieve peace in the region, i'd have to see, but before we do that the problem we have is that we spend all the money so they kill us on trade. i made great trade deals with the european nations because if you add them up, they're about the same size economically their economy is about the same size as the united states. and they were written no cars, no, they don't want anything that we have, but we're supposed to take 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three-to-one today let's turn to the issue of democracy. a former president trump, i want to ask you about january 6, 2021, after you rallied your supporters that de some of them i'm stormed the capitol to stop the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral votes as president, you swore an oath to quote, preserve, protect, and defend unquote the constitution. what do you say to voters who believe that you violated that oath through your actions and inaction on january 6, and worry that you'll do it again. >> why don't think too many believe that and let me tell you about january 6 on january 6, we had a great border nobody coming through very few on january 6, we were energy independent on january 6, we had the lowest taxes ever. >> we had the lowest regulations ever on january 6, we were respected all over the world, all over the world. we were respected. and then he he comes in and we're now laughed that we're like a bunch of stupid people that what happened to the united states's reputation under this man's leadership is horrible, including weaponization, which i'm sure at some point you'll be talking about where he was after his political opponent because he can't beat them fair and square you have at seconds left. my question was, what do you say to those voters who believe that you vital it violated your constitutional oath through your actions and inaction on january 6, 2021, and worried that you'll do it again. well, i didn't say that to anybody. i said peacefully and patriotically, and nancy pelosi, if you just watched the news from two days ago on tape to her daughter who's a documentary filmmaker. they say what she's saying. oh, no, it's my responsibility. i was responsible for this because i offered her 10,000 soldiers or national guard and she turned them down and the mayor of in writing, by the way, the mayor in writing turned it down. the mayor of dc they turned it down. i offered 10,000 because i could see i had virtually nothing to do. they asked me to go make a speech. i could see what was happening. everybody was saying they're going to be there on january 6. i got to be there. and i said, you know what, that's a lot of people coming. you could feel it. you could feel it too, and you could feel it. and i said, they ought to have some national guard or whatever. and i offered it to her and she now admits that she turned it down and it was the same de she was i don't know. you can't be very happy with her daughter because it made her into a liar. she said, i take full responsibility for january first sex president biden he encouraged those folks rough on capitol hill. number one, i sat at my dining room off the oval office. he sat there for three hours. three hours watching begging, being begged by his vice president, and a number of his colleagues and republicans as well to do something to call for a stop to end it is steady talked. they've talked about if you've patriots and, and great patrons of america. in fact, he says he'll not forgive them for what they've done they've been convicted. he says he wants to commute their sentences and say, that no. he went to every single court in the nation i don't know how many cases scores of cases, including the supreme court and they said they said, no, no, this guy this guy is responsible for doing what is being was done, did do a thing and these people should be in jail they should be the ones being held accountable. and he wants to let them all out. and now he says if he loses again, such a whiner that he is that there could be a bloodbath. thank you, president biden, president trump we're they've done to some people that are so innocent you ought to be ashamed of yourself, what you have done, how you've destroyed the lives of so many people when they ripped down portland, when they ripped down many other cities, you go to minnesota, minneapolis, what they've done there with the fires all over the city if i didn't bring in the national guard, that city would have been destroyed. when you look at all of the they took over big chunks of seattle. i was all set to bring in the national guard. they heard that they saw them coming and they left immediately. what he said about this whole subject is so off peacefully patriotic. one other thing the unselect committee, which is basically two horrible republicans that are all gone now out of office and democrats, all democrats. they destroyed and deleted all of the information they found because they found out we were right we were right. and they deleted and destroyed all of the information. they should go to jail for that. if a republican did that, they'd go to thank you, president trump, president biden, i want to give you a minute. >> you only person in this stage is a convicted felon is the man i'm looking at right now. >> and the fact of the matter is he is what he's telling you is simply not true the fact is that there was no effort on his part to stop what was going on up on capitol hill and all those people, every one of those who are convicted, deserves to be convicted. the idea that they didn't kill somebody that's going to broke down doors the windows, occupied offices, turned over desks, turned them over statues the idea that those people are patriots come on. when i asked him about first of two debates, we had debates, we had that first time around i said we denounce the proud boys. he said, no, i'll tell them stand by the idea he's refusing. will you denounce these guys? you denounce the people we're talking about now. you denounce the people, attacked that capitol what are you going to do i'm going to give you a a minute. president trump for a follow-up question. i have after a jury convicted you of 34 felonies last month, you said if re-elected, you would quote, have every right to go after unquote your political opponents. you just talked about members of the select committee on january thank six. going to jail are your main political opponent is standing on stage with you tonight. can you clarify exactly what it means about you feeling you have every right to go after your political opponents. >> well, i said my retribution is going to be success. we're going to make this country successful again because right now it's a failing nation. my retribution is going to be success. but when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon at a very high level. his son is convicted, going to be convicted probably numerous other times should have been convicted before, but his justice department let the statute of limitations lapse on the most important things. but he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets it's out of office, joe could be a convicted felon with all of the things that he's done, he's done horrible things. all of the death caused at the border telling the ukrainian people that we're going to want $1 billion. your change the prosecutor otherwise you're not getting $1 billion. if i ever said that that's quid pro quo that we're not going to do anything. we're not going to give you 1 billion unless you change your prosecutor having to do with the sun this man is a criminal. this man, you're lucky. you're lucky. i did nothing wrong. we'd have a system that was rigged and disgusting. i did nothing wrong. >> thank you, president trump, president biden, you have said coming right to you, sir. you well, you want to respond. go and i'll give you a minute to respond. >> the idea that i did anything wrong relative to what you're talking about is outrageous. it's simply a lie. number one. number two, the idea that you have a right to seek retribution against any american just because you're president is wrong, is simply we wrong. no president's ever spoken like that before? no president in our history has spoken like that before. >> number three, the crimes that you are still charged with and think of all the civil penalties you have. >> how many billions of dollars duo and civil penalties for molesting a woman in public for doing a whole range of things i'm having sex with a porn star on the night and while your wife was pregnant what what what are you talking about you have the morals of an alley cat good night, sir. i didn't have sex with a porn star. number one. number two, that was a case that was started and moved. they moved a high-ranking official, a doj, into the manhattan da's office to start that case that case is going to be appealed in one we have very terrible, judge horrible judge. democrat brett the prosecutor were all high-ranking democrats appointed people and the both the civil and a criminal he basically went after his political opponent because he thought it was going to damage me. but when the public found out about these cases because they understand it better than he does. he has no idea what these cases are. but what they found how that about these cases, you know what they did, my poll numbers went up way up, you know that because you're reporting it. and we took in more money in the last two weeks than we've ever taken in the history of any campaign. i don't think any campaign has ever taken hundreds of millions of dollars came pouring in because the public knows it's a scam and it's a guy that's after his political opponent because he can't win fair and square. thank you, president trump, president biden, you have said, quote, donald trump and his maga, republicans are determined to destroy american democracy do you believe that the tens of millions of americans who are likely to vote for president trump will be voting against american democracy the more they know about what he's done? yes the more they know about what he's done and there's not more common. he's got a lot of cases around the road coming out. he's got he's got a whole range of issues yes. to face. i don't know what the juries will do, but i knew i do know he has a real problem and so the fact that could you ever think you're hearing any president say that i'm going to seek retribution. do you ever hear any president say that? i thought hit write some good ideas. what got me involved to run the first place after my son and data cited in iraq because of iraq i said i wasn't going to run again until i saw what happened in charlottesville, virginia. people coming out of the woods carrying swastikas on torches torches, and singing the same anti-semitic bile. they sign when back in germany. and what did and the young woman got killed. i spoke to the mother and she they asked him, they said, what well, what do you think of those people, the people who wanted to get killed, wanted to tried to stop it. and the ones who said, i think they're fine people on both sides. what american president would ever say nazis coming out of fields carrying torches, singing the same anti-semitic bile, carrying swastikas we're fine people. this is the guy says hitler's done some good things. i'd like to know what they are. the good things hitler's done, that's what he said. this guy has no sense of american democracy president trump, jake, both of you know that story has been totally wiped out because when you see the sentence, it said 100% exoneration on there. so he just keeps it going. he says he ran because of charlottesville, didn't run because i share i was he ran because it was his last chance at he's not equipped to be president, you know it. and i know it's ridiculous. we have a debate. we're trying to justify his presidency. his presidency, his without question, the worst president, the worst presidency in the history of our country. we shouldn't be having a debate about it. there's nothing to debate he made up the charlottesville story and you'll see it's debunked all over the place every anchor has every reasonable actor has debunked it. and just the other day it came out where it was fully debunked. it's a nonsense story. he knows that and he didn't run because of charlottesville. he used that as an excuse to run president biden and debunk it happened. all you have to do is listen to what we said at the time and the idea that somehow that's the only reason i ran i ran because i was worried a guy like this guy get elected if he thought they were good people coming out of that all that for us carrying those those woods, carrying those torches. and he didn't deserve to be president, didn't deserve to be president at all and the idea that he's talking about all of this being fabricated. we saw with our own eyes, we saw what happened on january 6. we saw the people breaking windows. we saw people occupying there hizon vice president. look, there's a reason why 40 of his 44 top cabinet officers refused endorsing this time as vice president has endorsed him this time so why, why they know him? well, they serve with them. why are they not endorsing him thank you, president biden, we're gonna be right back with more from the cnn presidential debate. >> the final episode of violent earth, there 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you both faced in your first terms. and you'd certainly face again in a second term, president biden, while black unemployment dropped to a record low under your presidency, black families still earn far less than white families. black mothers are still three times more likely to die for pregnancy related causes. and black americans are imprisoned at five times the rate of white americans. what do you say to black voters who are disappointed that you haven't made more progress. >> knowledge he made a lot of progress, number one, faxing matter is more small black businesses that started in any time in history number two the wages of black, black unemployment is the lowest level of spend in a long, long time. number three, we find him friday for friday and housing for black americans and dealing with segregation that exists among these corporate these corporate operations that collude to keep people out of their houses in addition to that, we find that the impact of on the choice that black families have to make relative to childcare is incredibly difficult. when we did the first major piece of legislation in the past, i was able to reduce black childcare costs or cut them in half in half. we're going to make sure we provide for childcare costs. we're going to make sure because when you provide that childcare protections, you increase economic growth because more people can be in an in the job market so there's more to be done, considerably more to be done. but we've done a great deal so far, and i'm not letting up and they know it. >> you have 49 seconds left. what do you say to black voters who are disappointed with the progress so far? >> i say i don't play in the for being disappointed. inflation is still hurting them badly for example, i provided for the idea that any black family, first-time homebuyer should get a $10,000 tax credit to be able to buy their first home. so they can get started. i made sure that we're in a situation where all those black families and black individuals provided had to take out student loans. ever polonium than a favorite and gag gaze and nursing. dr. and anything having to do with volunteerism if they paid their bills for ten years on their student debt, all the rest was forgiven after ten years. millions have benefited from that we're going to do a whole lot more for black families. >> thank you, president trump. >> and he caused the inflation. he's blaming inflation, and he's right, it's been very bad he caused the inflation and it's killing black families and hispanic families. and just about everybody it's killing people. they can't buy groceries anymore. they can't, you look at the cost of food where it's doubled and tripled and quadrupled. they can't live, they're not living anymore. he caused this inflation. i gave him a country with no, essentially no inflation that was perfect. it was so good. all he had to do is leave it alone. he destroyed it with his green news scam and all of the other all this money that's being thrown out the window. he caused inflation, i sure. as you're sitting there, the fact is that his big kill on the black people is the millions of people that he's allowed to come in through the border, they're taking black jobs now, and it could the 18 it could be 19 and even 20 million people. they're taking black jobs and they're taking hispanic jobs. and you haven't seen it yet, but you're going to see something that's going to be the worst in our history. thank you, president biden. there was no inflation when i became frehse. why the economy was flat on his back, 15% unemployment. he decimated the economy, absolutely decimated the economy that's why there's no inflation at the time. there were no jobs we provided thousands of millions of jobs for individuals who are involved communities including minority communities. we made sure that they have health insurance. we have covered with the aca has increased. i made sure that they're $8,000 per person and a family get written off in health care. but this guy wants to eliminate that. they tried 50 times. he wants to get rid of the aca again and they're going to try again if they win, we find ourselves in a position where the idea that we're not doing, any, i put more we put more police on the street and no any administration has he wants to cut the cops we're providing for equity. equity and making sure people have a shot to make it. there's a lot going on, but inflation, he caused it by his tremendous mt seasons in the way handel the pandemic. thank you. another persistent challenge is the climate crisis. 2023 was the hottest year in recorded history and communities across the country are confronting the devastating effects of extreme heat intensifying wildfires, stronger hurricanes, and rising sea levels. former president trump, you've vowed to end your opponent's climate initiatives, but will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis? well, let me just go back to what he said about the police, how close the police are to him. almost every police group in the nation from every state is supporting donald j. trump. almost every police group and what he's done to the black population is horrible, including the fact that for ten years he called them super predators. we can't in the 1990s, we can't forget that super predators was his name. and he called it to them for ten and they've taken great offense at it and now they see it happening. but when they see what i did for criminal justice reform and for the historically black colleges and universities where i funded them and got them all funded and the opportunity zones with tim, as you know, tim scott was incredibly did a great job, great senator from south carolina. he came to me with the idea and it was a great idea. it's one of the most successful economic development acts ever in the country. opportunity zones and the biggest beneficiary are blacks and that's why we have the best numbers with them in maybe ever if they're saying ever i read this morning wherever the best numbers he's lost much of the black population because he's done a horrible job for black people. he's also done a horrible job for hispanics. but why do you see these millions of people pouring into our country and they're going to take the jobs. and it's already started and you haven't seen anything yet. it's a disaster. >> 38 seconds left, president trump, will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis? so i want absolutely immaculate clean water. >> and i want absolutely clean air. and we had it we had h2o, we had the best numbers ever, and we did. we were using all forms of energy, all forms, everything. and yet during my four years, i had the best environmental numbers ever. and my top environmental people gave me that statistic just before i walked on the stage. actually i don't, know where the hell he is banned the idea that dana he said is true i've passed the most extensive it most the extensive climate change legislation in history in history, we find ourselves and by the way black colleges, i came up with $50 billion hbcus historic black universities and colleges because they don't have, they don't have the kind of contributors that they have to all these laboratories and the like. any black student is capable in college and doing any white student can do. you just have the money, but now to be able to get those jobs in high tech, we're in a situation where the idea is that he is claiming to have done something that had the cleanest water the cleanest water. he had done a thing that environment he out of the paris peace accord climate accord, i immediately joined it because if we reach for 1.5 degrees celsius at any one point where there's no way back. the only existential threat to humanity is climate change. and he didn't do a thing about it. you must undo all although i've done the paris accord was going to cost us $1 and china nothing, and russia, nothing, and india nothing. it was a rip off of the united states and i ended it because i didn't want to waste that money because they treat us horribly. we were the only ones who was costing us money. nobody else was paying into it. and it was it was a disaster. but everything that he said just now, i'll give you an example. i heard him say before insulin, i'm the one that got the insulin down for the seniors. i took care of the seniors. what he's doing is destroying all of our medical programs because the migrants coming in, they want everybody and look, i have i have the biggest heart on the stage. i guarantee continue that. and i want to take care of people, but we're destroying our country. they're taking over our schools, our hospitals, and they're going to be taking over social security. he is destroying social security. medicare and medicaid your idea is that we in fact we were the only ones of consequence or not. we're not members of the paris accord. how can we do anything? we're not able to, the united states can't get this plus under control. one of the largest polluters in the world. number one we're making significant progress by 2035, we will have cut pollution in half. we have made, we have made significant progress, and we're continuing to make progress. we set up a climate corps for thousands of young people will learn how to deal with just like the peace corps. and we're going to we're moving in directions that are going to significantly change the elements of cause of pollution. but the idea that he claims that he has the biggest heart up here and he's really concerned about about pollution and about climate. i've not seen any indication of that. by the way, with regard to prescription drugs one company agreed that they would reduce the price to $35, which i was calling for one voluntarily i made sure every company in the world, every pharmaceutical company, cannot have to pay. and by the way so every day, millions of americans struggle just to make ends meet for many older americans, social security provides a critical lifeline. president biden, if nothing is done to social security seniors they'll see their benefits cut in just over ten years will you name tonight one specific step that you're willing to take to keep social security solvent? yes. make the very wealthy begin to pay their fair share, right now everybody making under hundred and $70,000 pays 6% a their income, of their paycheck every single time they get a paycheck from the time the first one they get when 18-years-old the idea that they're going to i'm not i've been proposing that everybody they pay millionaires pay 1%, 1%. so no one after i would not raise the cost of social security for anybody under $400,000 after that, i begin to make the wealthy begin to pay their fair share by increasing from 1% beyond to be able to guarantee the program for life so you still have 82 seconds left. >> are there any other measures that you think that would be able to help keep social security solvent or is just is that one enough? >> well, not that one enough will keep it solvent, but the biggest thing i'll do if we defeat this man because he wants to get rid of some security, he thinks that there's plenty to cut in social security. he's wanting to cut social security and medicare both times and that's what and if you look at the program put forward by the house republican caucus that he supports is in fact, wanting to cut it as well. the idea that we don't need to protect our seniors is ridiculous we put and by the way american public has greater health care coverage today than ever before and then they see, as i said, you're in a circumstance where 400,000 people, for me, 40 million people would not have insurance because they have a pre-existing condition. only allows them to have that insurance is the fact that they in fact are part of the aca and by the way, the other thing is we're in a situation where i talk about education for black communities. i've raised the number, the amount of money for pell grants by other $8,000 for anybody making under $70,000, you're going to be able to get $15,000 towards their tuition i just that nobody's talking about. >> thank you, president biden, president trump. so i've dealt with politicians all my life. i've been on this side of the equation for the last eight years. i've never seen anybody lie like this guy. he lives are never seen that. he could look you in the face so but so many other things too and we mentioned the laptop, we mentioned russia, russia, russia, ukraine, ukraine, ukraine everything he does is a lie. it's misinformation and disinformation the losers and suckers story that he made up is a total lie on the military it's a disgrace. but social security, he's destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country and they're putting them on to social security. they're putting them on to medicare medicaid they're putting them in our hospitals. they've taking the place of our citizens is there what they're doing to the va, to our veterans is unbelievable. our veterans are living in the street and these people are living in luxury hotels he doesn't know what he's doing and it it's really coming back. i've never seen such anger in our country before. >> president biden idea that veterans are not being taken care of. >> i told you before, by the way, when i said suckers and losers, he said he acknowledged after the he fired that general that general got fired because he's the one that acknowledged that that's what he said. he was the one standing with trump when he said it. number one, number two, the idea that we're going to be in a situation where all these millions and millions, the way he talks about it illegal aliens are coming into the country and taking away our jobs. there's a reason why we have the fastest-growing economy in the world. the reason why we had most successful economy in the world we're doing better than any other nation in the world. and by the way, those 15 nobel laureates he talked about being phony us 50 nobel laureates, economists. they all said that if trump is reelected, are likely to have a recession. and inflation is going to increasingly go up and by the way, worst president history, 159 presidential scholars voted him the worst president in history. nine states america president biden, thank you so much. >> let's turn to the cost of childcare, which many american families struggle to afford president trump, both you and president biden have tried to address this issue, but the average cost of childcare in this country has risen to more than $11,000 a year per child for many families. the cost of childcare for two children is more than their rent in your second term, what would you do to make childcare more affordable? >> good just to go back, the general got fired because he was no good. and if he said that, that's why he made it up. but we have 19 people that said i didn't say it and they're very highly respected, much more so than him the other thing is he doesn't fire people he never fired people. i've never seen him fire ready, but i did fire a lot. i fired comey because he was no good. i fired a lot of the top people at the fbi drain the swamp. they were no good, not easy to fire people. you'd pay a price for it, but they were no good. i inherited these people. i didn't put him that didn't put comey there. he was no good i fired him. this guy hasn't fired anybody. he never fires. he should have fired every military man that was involved with that afghan. the afghanistan horror show, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country he didn't fire. did you fire anybody? did you fire anybody that's on the border? that's allowed us to have the worst border in the history of the world. did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people, many from prisons many from mental institutions. did you fire anybody that allowed our country to be destroyed? joe, our country is being destroyed as you and i sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate. this shouldn't be a debate here's the worst president. he just said about me because i said it. but look, he's the worst president in the history of our country. he's destroyed our country. now all of a sudden he's trying to get a little tough on the border. he come out came out with a nothing and nothing deal. and it reduced it a little bit at a little bit like this much. it's insignificant. he wants open borders, he wants our country to either be destroyed or he wants to pick up those people as voters and i don't think we just can't let it happen if he wins this election, our country three doesn't have a chance, not even a chance of coming out of this rut we probably won't have a country left anymore. that's how bad it is. he is the worst in history by far. thank you, president trump, president biden were the most admired country in the world we united states of america. there's nothing beyond our capacity or the finest military in the history of the world, the finest in the history of the world. no one thinks we're weak no one wants to screw around with us. nobody. number one. number two, the idea that we're talking about worst presidents. i wasn't jokey. look it up or gone one hi hundred and 59 or 58, don't hold me the exact number. presidential historians, they've had meetings and they voted who's the worst president in american history one through best to worst. they said he was the worst and all of american history. that's a fact that's not conjecture he can argue the wrong, but that's what they voted. the idea that he is knowing, doing anything to deal with child care. he did very virtually nothing to talk here. we should significantly increase the child care tax credit. we should significantly increase the availability of women and men or single parents to be able to go back to work and we should encourage businesses to hold, to have thank you, president president trump. the question was about, what would you do to make childcare more affordable if you want to take your minute, just you understand we have polling, we have other things that they rate him the worst because what he's done is so bad. and they rate me. yeah, i'll show you. i wish. and they rate me one of the best. okay. and if i'm given another four years, i will be the best. i think i'll be the best nobody's ever created a economy like us, nobody ever cut taxes like us. he's the only one i know he wants to raise your taxes by four times. he wants to raise everybody's taxes by four times. he wants the trump tax cuts to expire. so everybody including the two of you are going to pay four to five times. nobody ever heard of this before. well my life i'd grow up and i'd see politicians talking about cutting taxes when we cut taxes. as i said, we did more business, apple and all these companies, they were bringing money back into our country the, worst president in history by far. and everybody knows it president biden, look, fact of the matter is that he's dead wrong about he's increased. the tariff. he's increased, he will increase the taxes on middle class people i said i'd never raise a tax on anybody making less than $400,000. i didn't but this tariff 10% tariffs, everything coming into the country, you know what economists say that's going to cost the average american $2,500 a year and more because they're gonna have to pay the difference in food. and all the things that are very important. number two, he's in a situation where he talks about how he is not raised he's he's he's somehow helped the middle class the class has been devastated by you. now you want a new tax cut of 5 trillion over the next ten years, which is going to fundamentally bankrupt the country. you had the largest deficit of any president american history number one, number two, you have not in fact made any contact, any progress with china we are the lowest trade deficit with china since 2010 that 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who are struggling to get the treatment they need to finish up we now have the largest deficit in the history of our country under this guy we have the largest deficit with china. he gets paid by china. he's a manchurian candidate. he gets money from china. we have so i think he's afraid to deal with him or something but do you notice he never took out my tariffs because we bring in so much money with the tariffs that i imposed on china. he never took them away, can't because it's too much money. it's tremendous. and we saved our steel industries and there was more to come. but he hasn't done that. but he hasn't cut the tariffs because he can't because it's still much money, but he's got the largest deficit in the history of our country, and he's got the worst the worst situation with china child is going to own us if you keep allowing them to do what they're doing to us as a country, they are killing us as a country, joe. and you can't let that happen. you're destroying our country so president trump, you have 67 seconds left. the question was, what are you going to do to help americans in the throes of addiction right now, who are struggling to get the treatment they need. >> jake, we're doing very well at addiction until the covid came along. we had the two-and-a-half almost three years of like, nobody's ever had before any country in every way and then we had to get tough and it was the drugs pouring across the border we're it started to increase. we got great equipment. we bought the certain dog that's the most incredible thing that you've ever seen the way they can spot it. we did a lot and we had we were getting very low numbers, very, very low numbers. then he came along the numbers. have you seen the numbers now it's not only the 18 million people that i believe is even low because the gotaways, they don't even talk about gotaways but the numbers of the amount of drugs and human trafficking in women coming across our border. the worst thing i've ever seen at numbers, nobody's ever seen under him because the border is so bad but the number of drugs coming across our border now is the largest we've ever had by far. president trump. thank you, president biden send nahal and byproducts of fentanyl went down from awhile. and i wanted to make sure we use the machinery that can detect fentanyl these big machines that roll over everything that comes across the border and it costs a lot of money. that was part of this deal we put together this bipartisan deal more fentanyl machines, more, more, be able to detect drugs, more, more of a numbers of agents, more numbers of all people at the border. and when we had that deal done, he went he called his republican colleagues, said, don't do it. it's going to hurt me politically now he never argued it's not a good bill. it's a really good bill we need those machines. we need those machines, and we're coming down very hard in every country in asia in terms of precursors for fentanyl and mexico is working with us to make sure they don't have the technology to be able to put it together. that's what we have to do. we need those machines. >> thank you, president biden and president trump and again, the question is about americans in the throes of addiction right now struggling to get the treatment they need. >> this because this does pertain to it. he ended remain in mexico he ended catch and release. i met a catchy release in mexico, not catch and release here we had so many things that we had done hard negotiations with mexico and i got it all for nothing. it just like when you have a hostage, we always pay 6 $6,000,000,000 for every type, which is a hostage now, we have a hostage. the wall street journal reporter, i think a good guy, and he's over there because putin is laughing at this guy, probably asking for billions of dollars for the reporter. i will have him out very quickly as soon as i take office before i take office, i said by literally as soon as i win the election, i will have that reporter out. he should have had him out a long time ago, but putin is probably asking for billions and billions of dollars because this guy pays it every time. we had two cases, we paid $6 for five people i got 58 people out and i paid essentially nothing thank you, president trump, dana. let's turn to concerns that voters have about each of you president biden, you would be 86 at the end of your second term. >> how do you address concerns? about your capability to handle the toughest job in the world well into your 80s first of all, i spent half my career being criticized, being the youngest person in politics. >> i was the second youngest person ever elected the united states senate and now i'm the oldest this guy's three years younger and a lot less competent. i think that just look at the record. look what i've done. i've turned around the horrible situation he left me. as i said, 50 million new jobs, 800,000 manufacturing jobs or investment in america over millions, billions of dollars in private investment in an enterprise is that we are growing. we've invited way, we brought off a lot of people the whole idea of computer chips reach their 40% of the market we invented those chips and we lost it because he was sending people to cheap. to find the cheapest jobs overseas and to bring home a product so i went, i went to south korea. i convinced samsung to invest billions of dollars here in the united states. and their guess what? those fabs they call them, that to, to build these chips. those fabs pay over $100,000. you don't need a college degree for them. and there's billions about $40 already being invested and being built right now in the united states, creating significant jobs for americans all over from all over the world president biden, you have 40 seconds left. would you like to add anything? yeah, i would the idea that somehow we are this failing country. i never heard a president talk like this before. we were the ambient were named me, a single major contrary present when trade places with the united states, america for all our problems and all our opportunities we're the most progressive country in the world and getting things done we're the strongest country in the world. we're country in the world who keeps our word. and everybody trusts us all of our allies and our op, and those, who he called us up to from kim jong un. he sends love letters to uproot and et cetera. they don't want to screw around with us thank you former president trump to follow up, you would be 82 at the end of your second term. what do you say to voters who have concerns about your capabilities to serve? well, i took two tests, cognitive tests, i aced them, both of them as you know, we made it public. >> he took none. i'd like to see him take one just one. a real easy one. like go. through the first five questions. he couldn't do it. but i took two cognitive tests. i took physical exams every year and, you know, we knock on wood wherever we may have wood that i'm in very good health. i just want two club championships, not even senior to regular club championships to do that, you have to be quite smart and you have to be able to hit the ball along way. and i do it. he doesn't do it. he can't hit a ball 50 yards. he challenged me to a golf match. he can hit a ball 50 yards i think i'm a very good shape. i feel that i'm in good a shape as i was 25, 30 years ago, actually, i'm probably a little bit lighter but i'm in as good a shape as i was years ago. i feel very good. i feel the same, but i took i was willing to take a cognitive test and you know what if i didn't do well, i aced them dr. ronny jackson, who's great guy when he was white house doctor. and then i took another one, a similar one and both one of them said they'd never seen anybody ace them thank you. president biden you can see he's six-foot-five and only 225 pounds or trying to 35 pounds well, you said six-four, 200 anyway, that's anyway. just take a look at what he says he is and take a look at what he is. look, i'd be happy to have a driving contest. karim, i got my handicap, which when i i was vice president down to a six and what by the way, i told you before, i'm happy to play golf. if you carry own bag you can do it that's the biggest lie that is a six handicap of all hours, eight handicap. now, eight by how many have seen this way? i know your swing that's trump work on once all legal challenges have been exhausted, that you will accept the results of this election regardless of who wins. >> and you will say right now that political violence in any form is unacceptable well, i shouldn't have to say that, but of course, i believe that it's totally unacceptable. >> and if you would see my statements that i made on twitter at the time, and also my statement that i made in the rose garden, you would say it's one of the strongest statements you've ever seen. in addition to the speech i made in front of i believe the largest crowd i've ever spoken to, and i will tell you, nobody ever talks about that. they talk about a relatively small number of people that went to the capitol. and in many cases were ushered in by the police. and as nancy pelosi said, it was her responsibility, not mine. she said that loud and clear but the answer is, if the election is fair free, and i want that more than anybody. and i'll tell you something i wish he was a great president because i wouldn't be here right now. i'd be at one of my many places enjoying myself. i wouldn't be under indictment because i wouldn't have been his political appoint you know, opponent because he indicted me because i was his opponent. i wish she was a great president. i would rather have that i wouldn't be here. i don't mind being here, but the only reason i'm here is he's so bad as a president that i'm going to make america great again, we're going to make america great again. we're a failing nation right now. we're a seriously failing nation. and we're a failing nation because of him. his policies are so bad his military policies are insane. they're insane. these awards that will never end with him he will drive us into world war three and we're closer to world war three than anybody can imagine. we are very, very close let's the world war three. and he's driving us there and kim jong un and president xi of china, kim jong un of north korea. all of these putin, they don't respect them. they don't fear him. they have nothing going with this gentleman and he's going to drive us into world war three you want a world war three but follow and when and i put and say do what you want. nato, just do what you want. there's a thing called article five, an attack on one is attack on all a required response. the idea the idea, i can't think of a single major leader in the world wouldn't trade place with what job i've done, what they've done, because we are a powerful nation. we have wonderful piece because of the people nowadays because of the american people, they're capable of anything and they step up when they're needed and right now, we're needed or needed to protect the world because our own safety is a stake. again, you want to have war, just let putin go ahead and take kyiv. make sure they move on, see what happens in poland, hungary, and other places along that border then you have a war present, a jump as it come back to you for a follow-up. >> the question was, will you accept the results of this election regardless of who wins? >> just to finish what he said, if i might russia, they took a lot of land from bush. they took a lot of land from obama and biden they took no land nothing from trump, nothing he knew not to do it not going to play games with me. he knew that i got along with him very well, but he knew not to play games. he took nothing from me but now he's going to take the whole thing from this man right here. that's a war that should have never started. it would've never started, ever with me and he's going to take ukraine and u.s. are your question before would you do this with he's got us in such a bad position right now with ukraine and russia because ukraine's not winning that war. he said, i will never settle until such time. they're running out of people, they're running out of soldiers, they've lost so many people. it's so sad they've lost so many people and they've lost those gorgeous cities with the golden domes that are 1,000-years-old. all because of him. and stupid decisions russia would've never attacked the question was, will you accept the results of the election regardless of who wins? >> yes or no, please. >> if it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely. i would have much rather accepted these. but the fraud and everything else was ridiculous. the killer said, if you want, we'll have a news conference on it in a week, or we'll have another one of these on in a week but i will absolutely. there's nothing i'd rather do. it would be much easier for me to do that then i'm running again. i wasn't really going to run until i saw the horrible job he did. he's destroying our country. i would be very happy to be someplace else in a nice location, someplace. and again, no indictments, no political opponents stuff, because it's the only way he thinks he can win. but unfortunately surely it's driven up by numbers and driven of up to a very high level because the people understand it let's see what your numbers are when this election is over let's see, you're a whiner. when you lost the first time. you continued to appeal and appeal to courts all across the country? not one single court in america said any of your claims had any merit. state or local, none. but you continue to provoke this lie about somehow there's all this miss misrepresentation , all the stealing, there's no evidence of that at all. and i tell you what, i doubt whether you'll accept it because you're such a whiner. the idea if you lose again, you're accepting anything. you can't 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drug prices with big pharma companies well, guess what? we got. we got it down to 15, excuse me, $35 for insulin instead of $400 no more than $2,000 for every senior? no matter what they how much prescription they need. you know what that did? that reduced the federal debts. debt by 100 160 billion over ten years because the government doesn't have to pay the exorbitant prices. i'm going to make that available to every senior all all or longer is happening now and everybody in america, he wants to get rid of that. we have i'm going to make sure we have childcare. we're going to significantly increase the credit people have for childcare. i'm going to make sure we do something about what we're doing on lead pipes and all the things that are causing health problems for people across the country. we're going to continue to fight to bring down inflation and give people a break. >> thank you, president biden, president trump, you now have two minutes for your closing statement. >> like so many politicians, this man is just a complainer. he said we want to do this. we want to do that. we want to get rid of this tax, that tax. but he doesn't do anything. he doesn't the oily does is make our country unsafe by allowing millions and millions of people to pour in our military doesn't respect him. we look like fools in afghanistan we didn't stop. israel. it was such a horrible thing that would have never happened. it should have never happened. iran was broke. anybody that did business with iran, including china they couldn't do business with the united states. they all passed a red was broke. they had no money for hamas or hezbollah for terror, no money whatsoever. again, ukraine should have never happened he talks about all this stuff, but he didn't do it for three-and-a-half years. we're living in hell. we have the palestinians and we have everybody else rioting all over the place. you talk about charlottesville. this is 100 times charlottesville, 1,000 times. i thought our whole country is exploding because of you, because they don't respect you and they have to respect their president and they don't respect you throughout the world what we did was incredible. we re, rebuilt the military. we've got the largest tax cut in history, the largest regulation cut in history. the reason he's got jobs is because i cut the regulations that gave jobs, but he's putting a lot of those regulations back on all of the things that we've done, nobody's ever never seen anything like even from a medical standpoint, right. to try where we can try space age materials instead of going to asia or going to europe and trying to get, when you're terminally ill. now, you can go and you can get something you signed a document they've been trying to get it for 42 years but you what we did for the military was incredible choice for our soldiers, where our soldiers instead of waiting for three months to see a doctor, can go out and get themselves fixed up and readied up, and take care 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