news night. laura coates live starts right now tonight. >> drugs, a gun, a document, and an alleged lie, another their historic trial. this time the president's son. >> so just who are the 12 jurors who will decide? >> hunter biden's state plus president biden tries at a new tougher message against trump, but not the public. what he just told a group of donors. >> and it was the foul seen round the world, but it has now become something now a little bit more hasn't been the new twist and the caitlin clark story tonight. >> i'm laura coates, live alright, stop me if you've heard any of these statements before, the cases, an unusual prosecution that quote, would not have been filed gantz anyone else? is the result of prosecutors have in quote, bowed to political pressure and the entire thing is quote, unquote, politically motivated can you guess which case i'm talking about? no, it's not donald trump's conviction in manhattan though all of those things hadn't thought about that case as well. i'm talking about hunter biden's trial and wilmington, delaware, which continues just hours from now with opening statements and all of those things that have been said about the case by hunter biden's attorney abbe lowell. i've just said the case, though. it could not be more different than the one involving trump, hunter biden has charges lying about his drug use when he filled out a form to purchase again back in 2018 and possessing the gun illegally and the form hunter apparently or allegedly checked the no box when asked if he is an unlawful user of any controlled substance and prosecutors, they say that was a lie. now, hunter biden's long history of addiction will be settled to this very case, and we actually saw that on full display during jury selection today they've got six men, six women, who were ultimately seated. but only after several potential jurors were questioned about their views on addiction, at least six of those who were seated have a friend or relative, or have themselves dealt with substance or else the hall abuse. and there's another pretty big difference unlike donald trump, who is consistently attack the justice system president biden hasn't said anything along those lines for the case against his son and say he's been expressing support instead, he says, as a father now he went to whelming to nowhere at this weekend to be with the senate ahead of the trial, and he wasn't in the courthouse that alone batch will courtroom, but dr. jill biden, the first lady, she was there. and in a statement, the president said this as the president, i don't and won't comment on pending federal cases. but as a dad, i have boundless love from my son, confidence in him, and respect for his strength now, this trial will will publicize some pretty salacious details about hunter biden. and if the other historic trial is any indication its outcome here could either be a political drag or a buoy on his father in this very critical election year let's get right to devlin barrett. he's a law enforcement reporter for the washington post, was also in court today for 100 biden's trial just as you gotta reprieve from the other trial in manhattan, bear, you are now now in this one. you got to tell me what was it like today? what was hunters demeanor during the jury selection? they wanted to delay this trial unsuccessfully. of course right they had tried for a bunch of delays they didn't really get them. and, you it was a very interesting time to watch a hunter biden relate with his family because in each of these breaks, he is chatting with his family and obviously this is sort of a human drama that's going to play out in court what mostly what you heard from jurors was just how dramatic the drug issue, the addiction issue has been in many of their own lives that was interesting point is looking through some of the people we're talking about. >> i mean, they have six men. they have six women some were gun owners, at least six who've had some family or personal connection to drug or alcohol addiction that as a jury composition, it could very well go either way. no one guarantees anything from any juror, but what it out to you about the composition so i think one is reminder that wilmington is a small place, a number of plate were called talked about their personal connections with the biden family. those people weren't chosen for the jury obviously, what one? again, the addiction issue. one man talks about his brother who has addiction problem with heroin, and another talks about how their childhood best friend died of an overdose. so i think this panel has some understanding and i think some sympathy for the problem of drugs that doesn't necessarily translate to the charges though that's a really good point thinking about the distinction between the two, right the idea of having, and frankly, in this country, as far many others, of course, the idea of having contact or experience with exposure to abuse and addiction is a very real thing for so many americans. so perhaps this is a microcosm. what's going on? in the greater world as well. but what are you hearing about how each are going to approach their opening arguments tomorrow well, i think in the jury selection process, you sort of saw the beginnings of the opening arguments and on the defense side, what you saw is them abbe lowell, the defense lawyer, trying to warm up the jurors to the notion that the gut maybe the government doesn't have proof, or at least convincing proof that a hunter biden was using drugs at a key moment in time when this gun was purchased. >> so he's already laying the groundwork for that. and on the other side, you saw the government sort of preparing the jurors for the argument that, you know, whoever you are and whatever your problems are in life, there are still rules that apply and even people with addiction problems have to face the truth and justice system sometimes devlin barrett will know all rely on you for that the trial. thank you so much for joining us this evening. i want to bring in in rozzi, a former federal prosecutor, also with me, chris whipple, author up the fight of his life. thank you both for being here. let mean, again, with eugene on this, if that multiple guns there's people who have family members or friends who are battled are separate with addiction what is your take on this jury? because delta makes a great point having familiarity and understanding of addiction does not necessarily mean that you're going to rule either way in your verdict i respectfully disagree. i did a lot of drug and gang cases and he's right that in those kinds of cases, when you have somebody selling drugs and possessing firearms and there's violence, having a background of addiction in your family or per personally may not translate to been sympathetic to the defendants. but this one is different when he filled out those deformed the 44, 73, the atf form. and when he possessed for ten days on unloaded cobra 38 was he using number one? >> number two, are they going to feel sorry for him because there will be evidence that he was trying to get sober and as i understand it, he was purchasing a gun not to hurt anybody, not to kill any animals, but tough krista, maybe go target shooting as some way to keep him from off the drugs. >> if that comes out. i think this jury could be sympathetic, but i'm guessing i'm guessing it's an important point to raise. i want to go to you, chris, because you know, obviously no one can predict what a jury is going to do and obviously the prosecution has got to meet their burden of proof. >> that is what's required. it's how it ought to be this defendant who has a presumption of innocence. and they've got to prove their case. but the notion of how to hone into a discrete point in time is going to be an uphill battle. we'll see how they climate, but the white house press secretary, i want to go to you here is saying that this trial is absolutely not going to interfere with the presence ability to do his job, and the president saying this in a statement, i am the president, but i am also a dad and he talks about his love and pride for his son and the man that he is today. what kind of effect do you think this trial is going to have on president biden well luck. >> i think the statement really speaks for itself or the president is not going to comment on the charges but he is going to continue to express his love and support for his son i think that this is the bond between joe biden and hunter biden is is very strong. it's very hard, hard to overstate just how close they are and i think we've seen that he is holding hunter biden very close he's had them at state dinners. he was riding bikes with him and rehoboth beach and the first lady, jill biden, was in court. that's going to continue and i can tell you that there aren't very many cardinal rules in presidential campaigns, but one iron in clad rule and joe biden's campaign is that nobody will tell joe biden what to do vis-a-vis hunter biden they are very close. i think anybody who had who might have the temerity to suggest that he should distance himself from hunter for political reasons. that person would be looking for another job in short order, because that's how close they are. >> well, do you foresee a time that president biden obviously in his capacity? three as a father, rather than the head of the executive branch under which the department of justice and the feds are belonging. >> what he go to the court, would he be in the courtroom next to his wife, dr. jill biden? well, it's possible. i think it's absolutely possible. and i think that we should look also at this is obviously a real personal trials for joe biden it would be for any father in this situation with a son who was so troubled. but if you look at this as a political matter i think i don't see any anything damaging politically about this trial for a number of reasons. number one, there's absolutely nothing here that implicates joe biden in what hunter biden has been doing number two, i think there's nothing but upside for joe biden to be seen as being supportive as a supportive, loving father and again, as you've already pointed out, there, there are many americans across the country who can empathize with the problems of addiction and finally, number three, i would make this point, which is that the very fact that hunter biden is being tried in a court for a crime gives the lie to this notion that joe biden as somehow the puppeteer who can weaponize the department of justice and punish his enemies and reward his friends. because if that were the case, hunter biden would never see the inside of a courtroom well, chris there are the logic behind your statement, then there's a political spin wound seven would say, well, maybe this is an attempt to have smoke and mirrors. >> i'm trying to the way the world works works today, you can flip it on other sayyed and you know that quite well. but i hear your point and let me ask you cheat on this point because i got to go back to for people of how we're here. yes. >> hunter biden didn't want to be here at all. his attorney doesn't want to be here. they tried to have a plea. it went south, remind people of how we got to this point and how that went so wrong. >> well, in the summer of 2023 frankly, hunter biden got two very good deals one was the taxes and i have very strong feelings about the taxes. i worked for the tax division of doj. that's trial in september. but the gun charge, it was going to be diversion and diversion means they have a plea hearing. and if you're good for a year, it goes away i have to say this. i agree 100% with chris they talk about the weaponization of the justice department joe biden has authorized or permitted legally the prosecution of menendez and our menendez the congressman from texas, his own son. i think it's hard to argue, but you say i don't want you out, but you saying authorized, you mean well, he had me in his apartment. he doesn't put his thumb on a saclay. that's what i mean. yeah. right. he hasn't called up merrick garland like trump with new bar and say i want you to do this, how did this hunter biden case start in 2018 under the trump justice department. >> and joe biden justice department has allowed it to continue. so joe biden to me, is going to benefit from this for a couple of reasons. one, he staying above the fray, number two, he's not attacking a criminal process and three, he showing compassion. >> well, say, i mean, obviously this is not the president who is the defendant, unlike the prior case when you had a foreign president as the defendant and the action i remember a lot was made about the judge not wind to go forward the plea because they were viewing it as a quote, unquote, sweetheart deal that was not the judge's logic behind her ultimate decision in this issue and say we're hearing this now, we'll see how this trial 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comments about what could happen if he were thrown into jail i don't know that the public would stand it. i don't i'm not sure the public would stand for it with a house arrest for i think i think be tough for the public to take, you know, at a certain point, there's a breaking point biden's team seizing upon those words, accusing trump of quote, teeing up political violence. >> and they're calling him unhinged. it's just wanted a flurry of messages from the biden campaign as openly mocking donald trump but on capitol hill democrats are divided on how biden should well approach this verdict i think the president needs to campaign on his record and what he's delivering for the american people i think people see it. >> they feel it and in their heart, dave internalize it so you don't have to go out and beat the drum on that. >> i think that's gonna be a decision on. the president his campaign team. but i for one, i'm have no quorums bringing up the fact that that a jury of his beers found him guilty well, joining me now, click commentator for cnn and former georgia lieutenant governor geoff duncan, remember that he is dorsey joe biden, four president geoff, so good to see you again. >> listen president biden, he is not holding any punches, but of course, in a closed-door fundraiser, he did that. >> how about publicly, should he be out in front talking about this issue? publicly well, i think he's got a call, balls and strikes. >> donald trump is like he said, in his fundraiser. the first convicted felon run for the office of president, and that is has the added benefit of being true. this whole election is going to come down to republicans like me. republicans that are lifelong republicans conservative in nature, but just don't think donald trump is anywhere near fit to have the office of president and it's whether or not we're going to stay at home and just let it let it happen with the weight of gravity or we're going to show up and do something about it. a vote for joe biden isn't a vote for anything other than a gop to 0.0 get republican like me. it gives us a chance to purge donald trump from our veins as quickly and as efficiently as we can allow us to get our party back to where we where we can start to solve real problems and show up to the table with democrats and work through these big issues. this court case that we watch play out is some are gnashing and wailing right now other teeth talking about whether or not he should have had that the charges brought against we're not, you can't deny the facts. he slept with a porn star while his wife was pregnant. he lied about any paid people off. he cuts secret deals. he continued to lie all the way through the verdict from the jury and the jury of his peers ruled them guilty. >> while they found obviously 34 counts of falsifying business records. and, you are correct that a lot of those details did come out. he has denied the allegations, but you hadn't. interesting op-ed about this very point where you talk about the support that trump has enjoyed from women. it improved in 2016 rising, you save from 39% to 40 4%. earlier this year, biden was winning women 58 to 36%. and there are concerns about why, if this is a guilty verdict that could be a fork in the road as you say, for republicans who looks at two point out different direction why do you think they're not doing that? >> this time? why are they not falling the left fork in the road well, i think as i mentioned a second ago, we can talk about all the different machinations of whether or not the charges should have been brought forward. >> but the facts are the facts in the case and it really proved the case and certified the donald trump lived his life and the gutter whether it's his business life is personal life, or even as political life, he lives his life in the gutter and that certainly is not a magnet for folks that live in the suburbs and specifically women in the suburbs, they're not going to show up and vote for him. the only risk we run if we want to get donald trump out of our way as republicans, is it folks like me stay home and don't cast a vote, go biden it's a painful nuance for us to be stuck in right now, but that's what we have to do. that's the medicine we have to take. that's how bad the republican party is right now. our medicine is going to have to be to vote for somebody on the other side of the aisle. but that's what we have to do to get to the next level here. >> well, you know, jeff, many people obviously would disagree with the idea of him living his life and the gutter i'll tell you, one person but secular that i can guarantee would disagree and that is lara trump, the co-chair of the rnc, has also his daughter, for current law. >> the idea that there were others who supported even the rule of law, or the idea of supporting a jury verdict generally really seem to infuriate her politically. >> here it say about larry hogan, who is running for senate in maryland i'll tell you one thing. i don't support what he just said there. i think it's ridiculous. he doesn't deserve the respect of anyone in the republican party at this point. and quite frankly, anybody in america, if that's the way you feel that's very upsetting to hear that and by the way, what he said was just so we're clear, he said regardless of the result, i urge all americans to respect the verdict and the legal process at this dangerously divided moment in our history, all leaders, regardless of party, must not pour fuel on the fire with more toxic partisanship. >> we must reaffirm what has made this nation great. the rule of law. >> and this, by the way, this was posted before the verdict was read. so could have gone either way in that capacity do you think that the rnc should commit to supporting hogan even in spite of what he has said here, which apparently was so off the rails to lara trump lara trump has no business running the rnc. she was hired by donald trump to be as sock puppet to push this propaganda. and yes, absolutely. the rnc should be behind larry hogan, a strong conservative with a great track record. he's a great leader. he certainly put his stripes on displays conservative stripes on display over his lifelong career. but, but that's not where we're at right now. this is all about one person will eventually wake up. my hope is that folks walk into the polling station, not as republican, but as an american in november. and do the right thing. >> well, we'll see how this all pans out because of course, i mean, the amount of mine has been raised and may till now. i think hundred and 41 million according to the rnc since may alone, 70 million raised 48 hours after trump verdict and questions being raised, but whether to support somebody who frankly, if he were to win, could potentially shift the balance of power in the senate. there's a lot to unpack. geoff duncan, thanks for joining absolutely well, president biden is about to make a big shift and take 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allison. good to have both of you here. well, first of all, some maybe crush scratching their heads, ashley, i remember biden saying that his hands were tied before what has changed now? >> well, he was saying he wanted to see if congress was going to act, which ultimately they still need to act. the president can only go so far with it ministry or executive orders or executive actions. and so the time has come, even those that were saying that they were going to be like senator lankford who said that they would support the immigration bill, have walked away and said, no, we don't want to do it. it's too close to the election and they don't want to be in the politics. and so now he's acting because his constituents are asking him to do something about the border is it too late? no, i don't think so. i think he is walking a very tight rope to make sure that he does enforcement on the border but also having some of those affirmative things like he talked about in his state of the union dress, whether it'd be with daca or other provisions like providing health care for immigrants that are here. so i think he's doing the best he can do. but ultimately congress has the act. >> yes, it's too late and i agree with ashley, republicans didn't act and purposely held up that bill. >> but clearly, he's got the power to do this. why didn't they do it the day after republicans walked away from that bill? months ago i think he is in part because of their legal battles ahead. obviously, every executive action often means that resistance is that him being prudent no, i think he's always known that he has the power, the president actually does have the power to do this i think laura, he's afraid of the fact because migrant crossings are actually downright now, i think he's afraid about these crossings rising again as we get closer to the election in this executive order will put a stop to that. so just so we're thinking about the threshold, this is really interesting to me because the threshold to temporarily close the border is after 2,500 illegal crossing because actually be clear, you could still request asylum if you go through a valid port of entry, but this policy has been proposed in the past, but i think the trump administration, in part well, this class conflict in the democratic caucus for that very reason. >> it could, i think that people who are advocates for immigration reform progressives might take issue with this policy. and there will take let's say they are allowed to because we're the big tent party democrats. >> we build a robust coalition. >> i think though it's the totality of circumstances the president has to do something. again, it's leaning into those affirmative programs like creating pathways citizenships for people who have come here legally, who have been waiting in the system for so long. because quite honestly, the system has failed them. and there is no way for them to get access to citizenship, but also the dhaka recipients, those dreamers who have been here their whole life. who the trump administration just ripped it away from them. and they'd been living in limbo for years. >> this is a tough issue for biden politically because it divides his coalition just like israel, gaza does. but this issue is hurting him politically because most most americans have demanded action at the border. >> so what do you think trump's response will be to this given the fact that it's sometimes has some echoes in the past and what he is proposing as you mentioned with senator lankford some believe he put his thumb on the scale to tank that endeavor. what will trump's say? he'll lie about it? >> misrule. represented he won't understand it. it doesn't matter what trump says about the kids that i mean, i wonder about the minor is today we're gonna be the exception to this, and i think most people remember about immigration policy. they think sadly children in cages, family separation and beyond is there a concern that with the minors being an exception that that will lead to an incentivizing children coming alone well, i i'm not sure. i don't know what it must feel like to flee. unsafe conditions and really looking for asylum in another country. so i don't know if this will bike unaccompanied minors, but what i will say to joe's point is that donald trump, ally, donald trump will invoke fair and donald trump will tell his party not to do anything to solve the problem. and that is why joe biden is trying to take action and be a leader, even if it makes some people in his party not extremely happy with them on what she'd done months ago, but ashley's right. >> we'll leave it on agreement ashley allison, thank you both so much. up next is the foul that blew up the internet wnba star caitlin clark getting checked during a game over the weekend, you surely have seen this right now. but what's happening off the court that's got everyone talking. who is here? >> jamil hill in just a moment the most anticipated 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teammates to inbound the ball, the referee called a foul, but not a flagrant foul. >> and did not reject carter angel reese, carter's teammates cheered, and the wnba find reese 1,000 bucks and the team five grand because reese did not speak after the game. now after the outrage, the wnba upgraded the foul the very next day and clark handled it. well, like a sportswoman, apparently i wasn't expected head, but i think it's just like just respond, come down while you're play do the talking. it is what it is to physical game go make the free throw and then execute on offense while the chicago sky has coach saying in a statement, quote kennedy got caught up in the heat of the moment in an effort to win the game. she and i have discussed what happened and that it was not appropriate nor is it what we do or who we are now, carter, she made her own statement today i don't have any regrets with anything. >> i'm going to compete and play 100% hard no matter who, it, is. like i said, or who were playing. no. no, i don't have any regrets so this drama is fueling tons of publicity for the wnba. >> yes but the hard foul might be pouring some gasoline on to a conversation that's been simmering for weeks, if not months. clark stardom, and how fellow players treat her i believed that there is resentment towards caitlin clark i believe that black players who have been bawling and scratch it and chlorine that help build this leak have a right to be somewhat resentful, would like the media people that continue to say this rookie class, this rookie class, this rookie last not just call it for what it is there's one white for the indiana team. >> who is a superstar now, pat mcafee, apologize publicly and directly to clark my next guess is all for more coverage. >> but in a new essay in the atlantic, she points to the one downside gender equality in sports with me now jamil hill, contributing writer for the atlantic, i cannot wait to hear from you reading your piece. i was enthralled as i always am. this your piece, the atlantic could not have been frankly timed better. you've been covering women in sports for decades how do you think, what do you think of how people like stephen a. or pat mcafee are now covering the wnba right now well, you know, it's funny because as i mentioned in the column for the atlantic, i think a lot of us who've covered when the sports have been around female athletes have been waiting for the day where men who have these very large platforms that pat mcafee is stephen smith, do that they would one day give the same amount of respect treatment conversation, discussion that they often do. >> two men sports every day, pretty much 90% of the content on their show is about min sports. >> but as i have seen, not just with everything that went down today and it was full of drama, but ever since caitlin clark, arrives in the wnba, there's has been a lot of money in who had been chiming in and it's clear that they don't have the institutional knowledge of the league that doesn't mean that you need to know everything that happened from its inception in 1997, but you do need to know certain institutional things you didn't need to understand how the play in the league goals you need to understand that kennedy carter, for example who was the one who obviously made that dirty play. >> caitlin clark, she got as a reputation a certain reputation. she's bring it to the table, but instead, a lot of them have just lower the discourse by resorting to very lazy stereotypical gender stereotypes by using the word petit, using the word jealousy resentment, all these things that are commonly associated with women in terms of describing our unsupportive behavior. and if we want to keep it 100% real, a lot of these characteristics did they keep thrown out there that these players supposedly field because my thing is show me the evidence. wright player, are you talking about because that's what i want to know. >> because you keep saying i'm sure there's resentment and probably ye shall be quotes. that's what i'm saying. and so my thing is knowing that black women make up 70% of this lee, black women are unfortunately stereotype of being aggressive, confrontational. all those things, they keep throwing these trigger words out there and people have suddenly reduce this to a game of thrones with the black people versus clayton caitlin clark well, you know what was jay-z say? >> jealousy is a female trait, untrue. we know that actually spans across the genders number 12 and three. but thinking about the word you're talking about the caddie, the petty, the resentful that they would have a problem. it's almost like some people are trying to create a real housewives franchise out of what's going on as opposed to watching athletes. i mean, i remember when it was the detroit pistons and they tried to make them into the bad boys they embraced it in some capacity, but they also had a certain game. they would play and you had those who look back to the christian late nar years and people elevating stars even to the dream team and wondering whether they deserved it or not and was racing the factor and beyond. and now we have maybe today's integration where you have others who are saying, well, i'm here to, in fact, angel reese is one of those people. listen to what she had to say today. >> i'll take that role. i'll take the bag our role, and i'll continue to take that and be that for that for my teammates. and if i want to be that and i know i'll go down in history, i'll look back at 20 years good things like you had a reason why we watched women's basketball is not just because of one person is because it meets you and i went out to realize that do people realize that and do you think that others are getting credit? even in a world where they have to be cast as her mind hero and villain, is that even necessary for this game? >> so here's a de, this is sports and a lot of times things are very binary. and one thing i want to make clear is that angel reese before that comment, she referred to the entire league, the rookie class, other players also adding to the popularity and she's right caitlin clark certainly was generating a lot of buzz, a lot of popularity, whatever playing style the logo threes, all of that, the success that i was having, but the watershed moment was the moment her and angel reese got into it in the championship game, and that's when this conversation about these two took on a different term and angel very much was cast as the villain angel, of course, is a competitive the player she's demonstrative. so as caitlin clark and i don't mind that at all, my thing is be fair about it, right? and even with some of this commentary now about how women in the wnba should compete. like you said this before you play this clip of angel reese right? we have seen many men and men spores and basketball have the petty is good rodgers, you mentioned the bad boys, michael jordan and i say at thomas still hate each other to this day, but those grudges, that beef is celebrated, it's marketed fans love it, but number one complaint you hear from a lot of mbb, nba fans today is o, is the game is to solve. players are too friendly. but yet when it comes to the women, like everybody has been building up this rivalry between angel reese and caitlin clark, which is very reminiscent of larry bird and magic johnson in the late 70s, early 80s, they couldn't stand each other. they had the most watched men's college basketball final of all time, and they remove that momentum right into the league. same thing happened with agent like caitlin. you guys a lot of people would say, oh, we can't wait to see the bribery, can't wait to see these to edit. well, guess what? you saw some of that. that's what happened in the game. it was partly fueled my personal rivalry, partly fueled by the fact that kennedy, qarrah and caitlin clark had been going back and forth the entire game. that is what showed up. >> and i'm promise you, if these were men there wouldn't be any of this conference jason, that we see before they'd be marketed it they'd be playing all the highlights round the clock and all the dudes would be height and say, oh, this is what sports is about. >> but were women not i want to switch up and say that they should be sitting around, hold it has sitting in a circle and brain each of this hair i mean, i don't have either one. we can call row, but i want to see that clip as well. >> who knows about amount? let me know. you were talking about this to the actual play that got all these people even buzzing. it was first of all, it was called the foul first, then it was upgraded to a flagrant foul. the next day for lot of people, they may say, i've now ever heard of a foul being changed next day, but it does actually happen. but was this the right call the next day it was the right call the next day. the problem is, it should have been called during the game and why may get need to get honestly just like you see, again, amid sports officials mess up and it was a mistake is that they should have called it angel reese, for example, she took a file that was in many ways harsher than this one. alyssa thomas pretty much close leinz, her during a game about a week ago? yep. and that immediately was called a flagrant. i believe alyssa thomas may have even been ejected. i thought it was suspension where the as well. and so this these are things that the official has to police during the game. now, listen, caitlin clark was still very young and her career and i know everybody is they're looking for this. asked by evidence of them being referred with caitlin clark than they have other rookies go talk to candace parker about what happened her rookie season in the wnba, where she got into a straight-up brawl with the detroit shot. her las barksdale. is that physicality has been a part of the wnba. i'm not excusing it. i'm just saying that is how the total well, if the game is played and in the men's game, it's not that way anymore, but it's certainly defined the men in 80s and 90s basketball for sure. but a lot of this, again, the officials, if the best way to police this is that if there is a next time and let's hope that there's not there's hope we can talk about basketball and that is the stuff from here on out that they will have handle on this, but it was their air. it should have been a flagrant right there in the game show, mao hell, i'm so glad you came always great to hear your voice. thank you so much all right. >> appreciate to load him and i'll go i don't have cornrows, but i got brace so get what it called the nothing the braided baldi. i'm a get that next is looking at i know some guys think bye. okay. i had who do you have? coke, pepsi, dr. pepper we have the major shakeup in the sottile for is for you next forget basketball sometimes the best thing you can do with intelligence share it with your adversary. if his secret is 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