because at least i'll tell you my own opinion. i was affecting attorney out for some sort of a pushback yeah. it didn't happen and it's very, very interesting. barak reveal. appreciate it. thank you. the news continues to source some kaitlan collins starts now saving the source tonight. hell half no fury like a former president turned convicted felon, donald trump is lashing out i'll calling the judge who will sentence him, quote, the devil, any rambling rampage. >> and a question that is on many americans minds tonight is will trump actually go to prison? >> it's certainly on his as he is mine for sympathy and falsely claiming that he is facing 187 years behind bars and a former apprentice produced so who had an nda for 20 years has just now expired, is now breaking his silence, claiming that he personally heard donald trump use the n word that produce there is here tonight and will join me. i'm kaitlin collins, and this is the source little bit of a pro tip to start you off with tonight, it may not be the best idea to refer to the judge who is going to sentence you soon on felony charges. you were just convicted on as the devil. but donald trump did just that in the wake of his conviction we have a judge is highly conflicted, looks like an angel, but he's really a devil. i wanted to testify, but the judge allowed them to go into everything that i was ever involved in. was he a bad boy? here? was he a bad boy there? this is a scam there's a rig trial it shouldn't have been in that venue. we shouldn't have had that, judge. >> we're living in a fascist state a lot to absorb and frilly that was just a small snippet of it. it's just the tip of the iceberg of what we heard de and if those surroundings that you saw there in the background looks familiar. they should it was right there that the same golden escalator at trump tower where all of this started nine years ago when trump kicked off his first run for the white house. he was speaking from there this morning as a former president. and now a convicted felon it's safe to say a lot has happened in the last nine years and what sounded like a mini version of a maga rally. trump also took a shot at his own attorneys during his 33 minutes set falsification of business records in the first-degree. it sounds so bad i said, wow, i'll even my own lawyers, i get very upset with them because they don't say what it is trump has made clear how he is going to say it capitalizing on his conviction and folding it into his political strategy. the trump campaign says that since yesterday's verdict came down in the 5:00 hour, they have raised nearly $53 million i should note, cnn hasn't confirmed that number. we can't until the fec reports come out. but in the meantime, the person that trump is personally, i should note baselessly blaming for his prosecution president biden also weighed in today donald trump has given every opportunity to defend himself his reckless it's dangerous. it's irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict. justice and should be respected and we should never allow anyone to tear it down i should note that one of the many people trump referred to today during his diatribe at trump tower was michael cohen but he didn't do so by name, given trump is still under a gag order tonight instead, trump's simply referred to him as a sleaze bag cohen responded on cnn just a short time ago. the days of me being in the cult of that dumpster cult of donald trump is over right now. he wants to call me a convict. one's called me a felon. guess what, pow. so you and would that my light source tonight was in the courtroom every day with donald trump throughout his trial, cnn political analyst, and new york times senior political correspondent, maggie haberman is your maggie. >> i was just thinking, i mean, obviously you wrote an entire book on trump and his biography what is it like now to see that this moment has happened, that he is a convicted felon because we didn't know how the verdict was going to go over the last several weeks. >> now, although i will say being in the courtroom yesterday, once the judge came back and said the jurors had said they had reached a verdict. it was pretty clear in the room where this was likely going, particularly watching the defense table well, i think they all knew because it was so it was because it lives under two days and it was very unlikely that this was going to be an acquittal just based on the volume of the evidence and based on all sorts of testimony look, this is something that i'll trump has spent decades trying to avoid. he has lived in this legal gray area for a very long time and he has played they gamesmanship with prosecutors and regulators and people who have overseen his businesses and aspects of his of his public-facing life. and he befriended prosecutors. he was very proud of his relationship with bob morgenthau, who was one of alvin bragg's predecessors. so this is a momentous event. now, what it means long-term, we don't know. he could win an election. he's going to appeal this, this appeal is likely if it succeeds, i have no idea if it will or it won't you know, they they they are going to throw a lot at it. they're going to try to get it before the supreme court. it will drag on for a while. it is highly unlikely that anything gets resolved before the election so it is likely that trump is going to head into the election with this, with this conviction on his record, and that just puts us into unchartered territory. >> you've reported on him deeply you've been there weiss house briefings on the campaign trail, obviously in the courtroom. what was it like to actually be sitting in their and to see him as he as he turned around what i'm walked out, knowing what the verdict was. >> so we had an obstructed view of him while the verdict was being read. >> one of the sketch artist jane rosenburg relayed to us that he shook his head and he closed his eyes, shook his head when he got up, we could see his whole face. he looked as if he had been punched in the gut. i have no other way of describing it his his his frown was read do we really pronounced he reached for his son, eric's hand. they clasped hands and shook very hard and then eric padded his father on the back and he walked out. but the error was just entirely still and i should note that there was a massive technical difficulty in the room as well, which added to some of the drama in there where the internet kicked out for many of us reporters. >> but it was it was it was an incredibly intense moment when we heard from people saying he was in high spirits and ready to fight. >> i mean it doesn't seem like that's what you saw. well, that certainly wasn't we saw in that moment. i know that he did present that to a bunch of people. i've heard for this from a bunch of people he talked to. he's doing what he often does and times of high stress, which is work, the phones pretty aggressive land he's talking to a lot of people i don't think that he's exuberant and excited about this, and i understand that they're raising a ton of money off of it, and that's significant to their campaign. but donald trump doesn't want to be a convicted felon and there's no world in which he's actually happy about it. >> yeah. and it's interesting because melania trump is your barron trump is here. i believe ivanka trump in jared kushner are also here based on our reporting trump went dined with these megadonor is last night. i mean, he just went about his business in the evening. is two hours after two or three hours after he was convicted for the first time, he went straight to a donor dinner with his friend steve witkoff, who was with him in the courtroom when the verdict came down and a bunch of other folks and he this is what we have seen him do after a number of upheavals impeachments, and election losses and he just powers forward. and so we will see him doing that in this campaign. >> what did you make of today? i mean, it kind of builds it as this news conference, which is always the trick if you're a trump broke cover, a reporter covering trump is you never know there's actually going to be two hours of questions or if a zero to be today, which was not he just turned it loved yeah. >> look, i think actually i talked to a number of people around him who are very happy. he didn't take questions because that probably would've led to more problematic areas for him he in their ideal world, he would have just kept it focused on the problem process. and this is unfair in the mark the parts of his speech where he talked about this is about the constitution and they're trying to make this a much bigger fight. but he can't help himself. and so he attacks the judge. any attacks michael cohen, any attacks this one and that one and he says all kinds of other things and they starts talking about the january 6 house investigation, which is never a topic as advisers want him talking about, it turned into a mini rally and it was filled with grievances and i think you will see more of that. i think we will see him publicly in some way in the next two days. he's in new jersey right now at bedminster. i expect we will see him out there in some fashion. gen. but he's also someone who is response to things based on not how he actually experiences them, but the coverage and the perception of them. and you, he was critical of his attorneys today. he said that they never say it. it is what it is, and he also talked about why he didn't ultimately take the stand. we talked todd blanche is lead attorney here about what was behind that decision last night. this is what he told us of course, he wanted to testify and i don't say that because that's what he has said. >> he wanted to get a story out. i think the judge had made some decisions before the trial or the de the trial started about what would be allowed to be asked of him by the prosecutors if he took the stand and some of those questions were really complicated to answer because they're still appeals going on and so there's a lot there's a lot of decision points that go into whether somebody testifies ultimately, it's his decision. and he listened to us and he relied on our counsel and he reached the decision that he that he thought was right, which i very much agreed with. >> yeah. that was true. as far as i know from what was taking place in real time, he did want to testify his lawyers were concerned about it for all of the reasons that every other lawyer who has ever represented him has been darned about him testifying. he ultimately didn't. i think there are things that todd blanche decidedly didn't do well during this trial, but there were a couple of things he did do well and one was that he got trump by some miracle not to essentially self cut during the proceedings. he there were a couple of instances of cursing or shaking his head or doing something. the judge didn't like in front of the jurors, but generally speaking, they got him not to do things like that and those moments defined the two civil trials that he had in the past year. so i'm not surprised, trump didn't testify at the end of the day. trump absolutely could have testified if he had wanted to only trump turn this into a big thing by insistently repeatedly climbing. he wanted to test well, he also complained about he said that there are witnesses that were exculpatory to him, essentially and they weren't called. but the defense has the right to they don't have the burden that they have the right to call witnesses. >> they absolutely could have called keith schiller. >> they absolutely. there are a number of people who they could have called and one person who they did goal, which was a source, of controversy within trump's world was bob costello. and bob costello i don't know a single person around trump who actually thought that that went well. him being on the stand. now, the reasons why you hear various different explanations for the castello wasn't prepped well, and that was other people's fault and so forth. but that that was a call that ended up confirming a lot of what michael cohen was saying about some of the pressure, even even it's castello was denying it. he was doing it in a way that the jurors were paying very close attention during that testimony. and it seemed like a very strange choice. i will say one other thing that todd blanche made very clear to us night and that interview was how much of the defendant was running the strategy on a lot of fronts in this case, and not every single one, but a lot of them. and when that happens, you run into things like todd, blanche telling the jurors that donald trump didn't reimburse michael cohen because this was legitimate legal work. it wasn't a reimbursement. trump himself called it a reimbursement over and over in 2018, which the prosecutor, joshua steinglass, in his own closing argument, was able to point to tweets about so i don't know how well this case ever necessarily could have gone for them for a variety of factors, but i don't think they made it easier on themselves either. what have you heard about trump's concern about the sentencing? >> because who knows, it's going to be jail time. we don't know what judge marsha is going to do. >> but even if he's on probation is to check in with a probation officer, he could get community service. >> we'll talk about that. coming up as you worried about the sentencing. >> yeah. he doesn't wanna go to jail i mean, no matter no matter how much political upside he sees from it, he doesn't want to go to jail. >> there's no question. >> maggie haberman. great reporting over the last several weeks and always thank you for joining us here tonight. trump is a core is going to learn what that punishment is soon. just want six weeks from now. it's safe to say though it will not be this this is the crime then i committed 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