Now on bbc news, political thinking with nick robinson. Hello and welcome to political thinking, a conversation with, rather than a news interrogation of, someone who shaped our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. My guest this week is a daughter of what we still euphemistically call the troubles the 30 years or more of violence which scarred Northern Ireland and the british mainland divided communities and claimed the lives of more than 3000 people. Emma little pengelly is the new deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland. She grew up on the border with the south, the place with the highest death toll outside belfast. Her father was arrested and imprisoned in france for involvement in Arms Trafficking for hardline loyalists back in the 1980s, something he still denies to this day, though, he did once say publicly he would oppose compromise to the bitter end, to the death. Compromise that is with people like the First Minister of Northern Ireland, michelle 0neill of sinn f
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Now on bbc news, political thinking with Nick Robinson hello and welcome to political thinking, a conversation with, rather than a news interrogation of, someone who shaped our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. My guest this week is a daughter of what we still euphemistically called the troubles the 30 years or more of violence which scarred Northern Ireland and the british mainland divided communities and claimed the lives of more than 3000 people. Emma little pengelly is the new deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland. She grew up on the border with the south, the place with the highest death toll outside belfast. Her father was arrested and imprisoned in france for involvement in Arms Trafficking for hardline loyalists back in the 1980s, something he still denies to this day, though, he did once say publicly he would oppose compromise to the bitter end, to the death. Compromise that is with people like the First Minister of Northern Ireland, michelle 0neill of sinn
To deal with russia. We want to talk about all of this with abby phillip and audie cornish, who are here now. Abby, whats your take away . I think what youre raising about abortion really speaks to something that i could not ignore, which was that this was a republican audience in the state of iowa about the republican caucuses. But she was speaking to a national audience. She was really trying to present herself, i think very differently from many of her other colleagues in this race. But she was also trying to leave herself a lot of room on some issues like abortion. I thought it was so striking to me, just the tonal difference here. This was almost like a republican candidate circa the george w. Bush era, incredibly hawkish on Foreign Policy, serious and very substantive on a number of other issues, whether its on entitlements or government spending, even things like guns and the border and china. But i was keeping track. It took her 70 minutes to say the word woke after she was ask
to deal with russia. we want to talk about all of this with abby phillip and audie cornish, who are here now. abby, what s your take away? i think what you re raising about abortion really speaks to something that i could not ignore, which was that this was a republican audience in the state of iowa about the republican caucuses. but she was speaking to a national audience. she was really trying to present herself, i think very differently from many of her other colleagues in this race. but she was also trying to leave herself a lot of room on some issues like abortion. i thought it was so striking to me, just the tonal difference here. this was almost like a republican candidate circa the george w. bush era, incredibly hawkish on foreign policy, serious and very substantive on a number of other issues, whether it s on entitlements or government spending, even things like guns and the border and china. but i was keeping track. it took her 70 minutes to say the word woke a