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Latest on the revolt incitement netanyahus own government jessica the divisions in israels war cabinet burst into the open on saturday evening when benny gantz gave a Press Conference in which he threatened to leave the war cabinet and less Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu came up with a six point plan by june the 8th. Now that plan would allow for the elimination of hamas, the Dealer Militarization of the gaza strip, putting in place a non are non hamas or authority to govern the gaza strip. The recovery of the israeli hostages still being held in the gaza strip and also the return of Tens Of Thousands of people that have been displaced from the northern part of israel as a result of the daily attacks from iran batch hezbollah militants finally the demand from benny gantz is for progress to be made on normalization with saudi arabia. Well, Prime Minister netanyahus response was swift he rebuked benny gantz claiming that his words, his demands were tantamount to handing victory to hamas and defeats to israel. And also tantamount to abandoning the hostages in the gaza strip, Opposition Leader yair lapid chimed in, encouraging benny gantz to leave the war cabinet in the hope that that could precipitate fresh elections. The problem for benny gantz and yair lapid is that elections theyre not doing israel until october 2026. And so long as Prime Minister netanyahu can keep his farright ministers in the folder within his governing coalition. He will not have to hold a vote, a vote that all Opinion Polls suggest Prime Minister netanyahu would lose handsomely to benny gantz. And so benny gantz is Press Conference not only a criticism of the way that netanyahu has been running the war, but also positioning himself as a leader in waiting or someone that could replace netanyahu once elections are held. Now as all this was going on on saturday, we also heard that another body of an israeli hostage have been recovered from the garden the strip he is or he was ron benjamin, 53 yearold father of two are very keen biker used to go biking every saturday and that included that fateful saturday of october the seventh, he was out biking when he was killed by hamas and his body abducted back into the gaza strip. That body has now been recovered. In fact, it was recovered with the bodies of three other hostages who is recovery was announced on friday. There are still 124 hostages being held in gaza strip by hamas about a quarter of whom are now believed to be dead. And that is another reason why protests were again taking place in tel aviv. And in other parts of the country demanding, trying to put pressure on the governments, do everything that it can to bring those hostages home because they fear that the longer this war drags on, the longer talks designed to reach some kind of ceasefire that would see hostages being released. And those talks are at an impasse right now, the longer these things drag on, the less likely it is that their loved ones who are being held hostage will be returned home alive jessica i like i can thanks so much for that reporting and joining us now with more on this Developing Story Scene and Military Analysts kernel cedric, Cedric Leighton always good to have you here at the magic wall, no less we saw that video of the aid that was coming in and the gazans just wrong planning toward that truck, intercepting it from the pier its a chaotic scene. Is this to be expected in this sort of situation absolutely. Jessica and one of the reasons is these people are desperate to and what you see here are people who have not had food and not had water in some cases. And were the desperate patient is just reaching heights where the un has declared this area basically a famine zone. And this is one of the results of that. You will see people trying to intercept this aid. You will probably see people trying to steal aid. So this is something where security is going to be paramount for the aid delivery for it to be effective for the entire population . Yeah. And just to remind everyone everyone, i want to correct me if im wrong, but the us military is not. Its only on the pier, its not coming in. Right. And so how difficult is it to get that aid through this pier and then into gaza . Yeah. Its a significant issue because as you can see here, this pier, its called j lots. Its basically joint logistics over to the sea. And what it is is a very narrow pathway for trucks to deliver it. Basically, we are talking one truck going on this on this path right here on this roadway in essence. And this pier is designed to be a temporary solution. The best of times and the best of circumstances and what its designed to do is move stuff quickly from a vessel to land. And thats why they created it this way. And one of the key things that youre seeing here is the fact that its basically using these thin strips from ship to appear. And of course, ships delivering aid, thats the kind of thing that really becomes an important part. Jessica, in the way that this can be delivered. And you see right here, this is the pier and its this is the containment area where theyre going to put stuff in there for delivery to their points within gaza just militarily right now, the idf says its ramping up operations in northern gaza. That was a place they had been in, kind of gone out of and now hamas they say is back and kind of filling a power vacuum, essentially. Yeah, exactly. How are they going to try to regain control those areas . And is this what people are concerned about that theyll just hamas will come back. Well, thats the problem. Thats the problem with the israeli strategy right now, jessica, and the fact is that once you clear an area like this, you have to expect the groups like hamas to come back. You see in the Northern Area of gaza, this area right around here. You had the famous al shifa hospital, gaza city beit hanoun. All of these areas right here were once cleared by the israeli army, but once they move their operations down to other areas like the south, right . Here into central part of the country. And of course, the Southern Area right here, that then becomes an area of less concentration for the idea of forces. So what ends up happening is hamas just moves, they move north, they move wherever the israelis arent in the israelis find themselves having an essence to cover the entire country. I end, that becomes its a really tough game of whackamole at that point and then we see rafah down here at the southern part, which of course has been such a focus about, about israel threatening to go in and the Biden Administration pushing back on that. What is the current status of the operation there . In rafah . Well, i think one of the key things to look at here is the damaged part. And when you focus specifically on rafah, you see a few little specks of yellow right in here. That is the more recent damage. But even before the 8th of may, all of this was damaged already by israeli strikes. And of course the entire enclave here gaza in the north, in the central part of the southern part, and the extreme southern part. All of that was damaged considerably. And when you look at the picture of it on the ground, this is what that looks like. This is what these kids and Everybody Else who lives there has to deal with every day. And when you have a population of about 1 million or so who people still remaining in gaza, that becomes a real problem for anybody to deal with in this case and mile this goes on, cedric, we we see you so many times you are one of our contributors and as such, you knew our friend Alice Stewart, who we sadly had to report today has died. And i know you wanted to Say Something about her absolutely. Alice was a dear friend of mine, one of the things that she would do is she would jump in anytime that anybody needed help. And onetime they were shorthanded in the makeup room and shes stepped in and she took care of me makeup. She did my mate you kept just as just as anybody who is working professionally in that area, she and she assured me that she was a semiprofessional in that arena because she had done centered or cruises makeup and a lot of other peoples, but she was a dear friend and jay, she even got to the point where she was about to offer my son a job working as the for her. So miss her dearly because she was a good person and she believed in her particular positions, but you didnt do it to the exclusion of others . She was somebody that you could talk to about really anything . And well miss her dearly now, the through line and talking to so many people tonight and hearing about our friend alice was just how many lives she touched without people even really knowing it. You know, i mean, youre Military Analyst who would have thought that you would have a relationship, but that was really part of her her sparkle. And what was special about her was her the way she invested in relationships . Yeah, thats the key to her relationships where everything i and whenever we spoke, we were only paired. I think once or twice on the air together. But it was always a great time to be with her to talk to her about things and shes going to be somebody that we will always remember here at cnn dearly missed. All right, cedric, good to see you. Do the same too, jessica. 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Will the judge is reopening the sentencing portion of this case on a technicality because she did not give him an opportunity to speak before she handed down the sentence on friday, he was sentenced to 30 years in federal prison and before that sentence came down, he did not get a chance to talk or sing they anything. And so right after this Hearing Prosecutors filed a motion and said, though david depape did not have to speak, hes not required to he should have been given a chance to do so. They also said that they reached out to depapes lawyers and the lawyers, his defense team actually oppose this motion. They did not believe it needed to go forward, regardless. Today, judge, jacqueline quarterly filed her own motion rather, and she admitted to the error and agreed that depape should have been given the chance to speak, so they will be reopening the sentencing portion of this case on may 28 at 9 30, separately, his defense team has filed an appeal on the entire sentence this is all regarding his federal case. Hes actually facing other charges in a state case which is going to trial. Hes facing attempted murder, burglary, and assault, among other charges. And that is going to be playing out later this summer back to you all right Veronica Miracle for us with that breaking news update. Thanks so much also denied donald trump just wrapped up after headlining the National Raffle Rifle Association annual convention in dallas, seen in reporter Steve Contorno is joining us now and steve, you were there for all of his remarks so what did you hear from the former president tonight jessica, the national Rifle Association endorsed donald trump for president today. But the former president said he needs more than the backing of gun overs to win this fall. He needs their votes. Listen to what he told this gathering and dallas weve got to get gun owners to vote because you know what . I dont know what it is. Perhaps its a form of rebellion because youre rebellious. People argue, but gun owners dont vote. What is that all about ive heard i heard it a few weeks ago that if the gun owners voted, we would swamp them at levels that nobodys ever seen before. So i think youre rebellious bunch so lets be rebellious, said vote this time, okay trump went onto both that he quote, didnt move an inch on gun laws when he was president and said that those nations, gun owners have been under siege under president joe biden. He said he would reverse all of bidens policies on guns if he is elected. And he said he would even fire the atf director, the countrys top gun regulator. His appearance here at the nra jewish strong rebuke from the Biden Campaign with this statement from Vice President harris, quote, at a time when guns are the number one cause of death for children and teens in america. Donald trump is catering get into the gun lobby and threatening to make the crisis worse if reelected. Now, it will be interesting to see what kind of support the nra can actually provide donald trump this cycle, the organization has been beset with leadership crisises, with scandals, with financial mismanagement they gave 30 million to help him win in 2016, its unclear how much they can give him this cycle, jessica. All right. Why on that Steve Contorno for us from dallas, texas. Thanks so much. And joining us now is seen in president ial historian tim knopp, tally, tim, great to see you. Thanks for stopping by this evening. Lets start first with trump speaking at that Nra Convention after the group was found liable in a corruption case, its leader step down. Some strategies say that the nra isnt relevant anymore, but donald trump felt the need to go there and be there on this Saturday Night why do you think that is and what does he gained from being there well, both candidates have to ensure the turnout of their winning coalitions donald trump needs to get that 2016 coalition back together and voting. And of course President Biden wants to 2020 coalition that put them into office, devote a key part of Donald Trumps 2016 coalition. Were people for whom the Second Amendment is a big issue gun owners and members of the nra, the nra itself may not be able to provide the punch, probably wont be able to provide the political hunch that he used to. But donald trump needs those gun owners, particularly in rural counties, to come out to vote in big numbers to win the election in 2024. And i think thats why he went to the nra. Yeah. And that was that clip that steve showed, right where he said, okay, i need you to vote this year. I really need you to show up. President biden. The meantime is in atlanta and ahead of this address at Morehouse College tomorrow, where weve seen are weve seen in some polling specifically that New York Times sienna poll that bidens support among black voters is softening specifically among young black men. Do you think this sort of targeted campaigning will work . Do you think he can make some progress on that jessica . I dont think he has a choice. Hes got to try because a fourt for the Biden Coalition to be successful he has got to get young people to vote and young people, unlike old people, ten, not to make the extra effort to vote and he also needs to do extraordinarily well among people of color, particularly among Black Americans, but not solely among Black Americans. The fact that hes losing Percentage Points to trump. I mean, youll still win more votes of black Black Americans than trump. But the fact that hes losing some Percentage Points means that in certain areas where urban votes might help him overcome rural votes, hes not gonna be able to do that in this election cycle as he was able to do so in 2020 so lets talk about the president ial debates as well, one of which is going to happen here on june on cnn what i want to ask you about is when its happening because its currently scheduled for june 27th, which is really early for a president ial debate. What do you make of that . And how do you think that that date . What does it mean in the broader race well no campaign asked me my opinion, but i suspect that one reason why the dates were chosen was as insurance just in case. And unfortunate viral moments should happen or there will be time afterwards for the public to forget it. It was i think extraordinarily important for President Biden to show that he was willing to debate. Donald trump has been saying over and over again, he would debate President Bidens challenge is to convince the american some of the American People that hes up for the job hes up to the job for the next four years. And a debate is a perfect way to do it because its for the most part, unscripted. So he had to do a debate and he had to show enthusiasm and he basically had to be the one to push for debates. Thats very important. It was a very good sign. Nevertheless, its also important to be certain that in case something goes wrong. And i mean for both candidates, that theres time after the debates to change the narrative. So i think thats a reason why these debates are not happening in late october alright, tim, have tally, were going to leave it there, but thanks so much. Always, good to see you my pleasure, jessica. Thank you. Were going to have more news after this hey, you seen this was the main one. Youre telling me you can get directtv, vogue. 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They get worse the border town of vovchansk bearing the blunt horror of moscows race to take as much as they can in the weeks before ukraine starts feeling American Military help again every street of flame russians deeper inside the town Policeman Maxime is answering one of 35 calls from locals on thursday to evacuate the day before three colleagues were injured the shelling never stops you do have supercilious three people still come out. And you have to imagine quite how desperate these final people, the situation must be to leave that mikkola and his wife hiding in their basement, but despite staying through the first Russian Occupation and then liberation two years ago they found the airstrikes last night just too much they joined by maria, their mother, who cant hear the shelling or anything. Two Well Thousands evacuated since russia invaded. Again around here, five days ago why everyone has to leave, its clear again, as we drive out, as it is with almost every part of ukraine, russia covered just utter destruction. Little left to rule over there. This is their first moment of calm in many days. Im on monday why do you entire lives or in plastic bags saying it wasnt like last night was scary and everyone else was talking about significant bombardment more than it was just better but i get out of the 85 divided by the way, yeah. Im goal an armored ride to a new world, knowing they may never get back to their homes tormented for de, by Shelling Sizdah which saw that in solution is down. Does that only adh im which lets say we head back in with another police unit who soon learn two of the houses they must rescue from a possible to reach as we wait to bundle by hear a buzzing noise they think they can hear a drone here. So hard to tell with the wind in the trees and the artillery. But thats a constant threat. Lets call them now, then our Security Adviser Spots it. They raise their weapons will firing make them more of a target . I think three drones, one large one that hovers, and two small ones whizzing about exposes how if we run for cover, they might come for us. All we can do is hide in trees and hoped that if we are seen, the russians instead have a better target in mind but they come right overhead that noise in the car and move either the sound of death or someone deciding, youre not worth their payload we decided to leave. But again, we cannot travel fast enough to escape the drones. Only expose ourselves and pray they lose interest perhaps they did. Well never know but behind us, ukraine has a flame again because however, the wests interest in this war wanes, putins burns brighter than ever Nick Paton Walsh, cnn, vovchansk, ukraine joining us now here in washington, former Us Ambassador to ukraine, bill taylor, ambassador. Thanks so much for coming, coming on this evening we want next report there, and we couple it with this news that theyre widening the draft in ukraine what do you take it all together . What does that tell you just gotta beams that ukrainians really do need men soldiers, men and women they are expanding the draft. They are going to have to train them up. So its going to take some time for them to have the three months of training that they really need. Good nick also mentioned that the weapons that are coming from the big package that the United States finally passed and is going to start is already started coming, but it will get there in in bulk. Itll get there in time to really have a real effect. Over the next month or so. So it is not good around harkey. Theres no doubt about it and with russias new offensive in the northeast, theres some concern that kharkiv could be really under threat. Its under threat of artillery, its probably not under threat to be taken the russians dont have enough people soldiers, equipment on the ground now to be able to take that they could, that could change the problem for the ukrainians is the United States has not allow the ukrainians to fire into russia where those Russian Troops are mounting, are massing, are getting ready and that is a big request from the ukrainians that they be allowed to use weapons against Military Targets wherever they are. And you mentioned the the aid thats coming in from america. Its not quite there in bulk just yet what would you say is the status of the war for ukrainians at this moment . They need to stabilize. They need to be able to stop this gradual grinding movement that the russians are usually, russians are taking advantage of this paucity of weapons. The pause in the weapons that were provided them the russians have known thats coming. Youve seen its coming, theyre taking advantage of it. They are pushing harder than we thought they would or that the ukrainians thought they would. They thought they would be maybe in the late spring and summer would be this offensive by the russians. But the residents have moved it up in order to take advantage of the ukrainians not having the equipment that they need from them i cant come soon enough for the ukrainians and we know that the ukrainian president zelenskyy is urging china to send a delegation to the peace talks next month what do you make those calls from president zelenskyy . So the, the peace discussions Conference Summit in switzerland, switzerland is inviting some hundred nations and probably 100 will show up 60 nations have already said yes so this is developing into a real discussion. Its not going to have the russians, the russians will not be there. Thats not the purpose. The purpose is to think about what a peace plan would be in terms of humanitarian, in terms of energy security, in terms of food security. So this is an opportunity for the ukrainians hosted by this swiss to make that point too many other nations around the world, right . And not to mention that putin was with xi jinping and it all circles back together. It does be. Wed like to see the chinese show up at this in switzerland but the chances are they wont phlegm. All right, ambassador bill taylor, thanks so much. Nice to see you. Love more news when we come back tomorrow on the whole story, dr. Sanjay gupta reports on hold for the devastating effects of all timers, reversing something that seems so priori for deigned, it sounds extraordinary. The whole story with Anderson Cooper tomorrow at eight on cnn, you want thicker, stronger, fuller hair. 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I remember this period of time where it was like if i wasnt high, i like was going to kill myself theres this quote that said that the opposite of addiction is not sobriety the opposite of addiction is Human Connection and thats what, that time period really is are you breaking new ground . With a program like this thats the hope i think a lot of other Recovery High Schools du a lot of clinical pieces. And thats cool. But im sorry. Another 16yearold that looks like me. That sounds like me. That now has a year, 18 months to years sober, sharing with me what they did to get sober is better than any doctor or clinical person can ever do to help them. So how much of your own personal Life Experience is part of this role for you. I mean, its everything i started. My journey in active addiction as early as 14, 15 years old have five felonies today. Felonies that i acquired while under the influence of drugs and alcohol and active addiction its hard to reconcile the man thats sitting in front of me with all that yeah. Are you the exception to the rule or are you the rule . Theres a lot of us out here who have recreated our lives in recovery. But it is a part of my story and it is very important that i share those very terrible and inhumane things that i did. An active addiction. So we can give hope to others that they can recover two so what are we about to sit here . So now were about to go into our biology, engineering, physics, chemistry, woodshop class. I like to Biology Workshop together. I could use that by doing project based learning and allows the kids to be able to learn 21st century skills, learn how to collaborate well with others, how to problemsolve also, Core Principles in recovery as well. Its like an emotional outlet for me. I love to create you come here, you got to put in the work and the action i know every single kid i can tell you about their story. I can tell you what theyve been through when they do make mistakes or things do happen, not beating them up about it, lebanon them supporting them, and figure out what do we need to do next to help them get to the next one . I started drinking and using when i was 13 a Smoking Crack in fentanyl and drinking and ended up getting nar canned and was in the hospital. Keith was like a really big support through all of that and would just continuously show me that he loved me and cared about me. And ive been sober since then and now i have 17 months congratulations for that. Thank you. Do you dream about the future . Yeah. A few years ago, i didnt think id be alive and so it was really weird turning 18 and having plans to go to college and just all of the things that i get to do now at one point, i didnt know of lucy was going to live or die. And now i know lucy is going to do whatever she wants to do in this world. Every single one of these kids gives us all hope today that no matter how hard your life is, things can get better one day at a time and you can watch our onehour special champions for change tonight at nine eastern. Well be right back means virtue is presented by Charles Schwab bone, your tomorrow. Goh to cnn. Com slash champion. Learned about the pioneers using courage, grit, and creativity to move Society Forward and exciting and inspiring way trees dont have hearts but they do have Something Like a heartbeat. Every night, a tree gets a little bit bigger today, it actually shrinks just a teeny bit. And that motion which has less than a human hair, is what we measure with the tree tag all right, so im gonna go ahead and put these two treat tags so this is row 21, tree nine trees are the lungs the planet with plan, our mission is to help keep the worlds trees healthy. 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Has been a longtime fixture on this show at this network, often appearing on our political panels. Cnns dana bash has a look back at alices life and her legacy Alice Stewart was a treasured member of the cnn family since 2016, because it president fixture on cnns political panels for the better part of a decade, using her even tone to bring sharp insights and analysis to viewers regularly drawing on years of her experience working on highprofile republican campaigns, earned the respect of her peers as a conservative strategist called on time and time again to support candidates and their causes and the ones she believed in, she brought a boundless well of energy to whats often grueling Work Trenches of national politics. Alices career started in Journalism Working in local news in her home state of georgia. And as a news anchor and little rock, arkansas, Alice Stewart and im Press Secretary thats where she decided to go into politics, becoming a spokesperson for the states. Then governor mike cauce be when he ran for president in 2008, she joined his campaign as Press Secretary, spending untold days and weeks trudging through the iowa winter, helping deliver how cubbies insurgent campaign of victory and the 2008 Iowa Caucuses years later, after joining two more president ial campaigns in the 2012 cycle Michelle Bachman than rick santorum. She returned to haka b side for the 2016 run for the white house. After one last campaign, ted cruz in 2016, stewart came to cnn. Even, even as a concern commentators du joined her fair share of contentious debates on our air its no secret that we live in a time of deep Political Division alice was never divisive she was a fierce debater, but she prized civil discourse and walk the walk the potential downfall of stood her ground and the respiratory Point Of View that away from her ankle i just friday night hours before her unexpected passing, she was on the Situation Room with wolf blitzer alice was always smiling, her megawatts smile on camera and off she was so kind and thoughtful, cutting flowers from her garden to bring to colleagues in the makeup room, just to make their de a bit nicer that was alice Alice Stewart will be deeply missed and never forgotten may her memory be a blessing a her memory via blessing indeed, earlier on our show, we spoke with cnn Political Commentator maria cardona, who cohosted a podcast with alice. And youll probably remember they often appeared together here on this show and on cnn. And theyll maria and alice often disagreed and had different political parties. They were very close friends. And this is what maria told me about alices effect on those around her and love. And if theres anything that everyone should remember about her, and i think this has been underscored by everyone who has spoken. Is it alice loved here you see, i love. She loved her family she loved her dog sammy, that i think all of us knew and adored as well. See loved what she did for cnn. See loved what she did at harvard iop. And she communicating her passion about politics, about the importance of what she held dear in terms of doing these conversations, these really difficult conversations, especially in todays environment doing it with respect and civility. And i remember jessica the day that we were all sent home from cnn, when everyone was going virtual because of the pandemic. We were no longer going to be in the bureau. Alice and i had just finished. I think we were on with jim im acosta was one of the last time that we were on the air in the bureau and we want you to coffee shop right down the street and we said, we need to continue these conversations because more than ever people need to see that people who dont agree and actually have these civil conversations. And thats when the idea for our podcast hot mic from left to right was born and we did it, we did it throughout the pandemic. We still have it going on as you know and im talking to you and its still so unreal to me thats so on real to all of us. Alice was just here last diet and our thoughts are with alices family. We are sending so much love to them on this very difficult and sad day. And to those whove been sharing their memories with us tonight, we were all very lucky to be an alice stewards orbit ill be right back sirens are going off to the tornadoes yeah. 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Theres a preview the fbi was getting so many tips but then it went silent you know, even though there were these 13 works of art that were missing, the information just sort of dried up until 2005 when the fbi got a big tip. Recently took a trip to france in tracking down potential evidence in this case, you can confirm that you did go yes, we did go to go to friends. I cant get specific on what were doing over there, but in broad terms, i can tell you that we were covering yet another lead thats come up around 2005, 2006, the fbi gets a big tip that to frenchman living in miami are trying to broker a deal regarding two paintings or rembrandt and a vermeer. What was really interesting about that statement . That vermeer, theres only 34 verifiable were vermeers in the world . And the only one that was missing at that time is the concert that was stolen from the Gardner Museum