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trial starts next week. if you're convicted, we resigned inside politics, the best reporting from inside the core power starts now good morning welcome inside politics sunday. >> i'm raju it was a week of intense personal, an even graphic testimony in his new york hush money case. and now donald trump is back in campaign lashing out at the prosecutor and judge saturday in a beachside, new jersey rally hit the trail for the first time since adult film star stormy daniels testified in court about her alleged sexual so we'll encounter with the former president, which he denies and as soon as tomorrow, the former president may come face-to-face with the prosecution's star witness, his ex lawyer and fixer, michael cohen now, in n the las few weeks is this trial has unfolded, trump has held very few campaign events even on his days off from the courthouse. meanwhile, president biden has been trying to shore up his support and rebuilt his fraying coalition as he crisscrosses key battleground states. and speaking to donors at a washington state fundraiser, you just yesterday, biden called trump, quote, clearly unhinged and said, quote, something snapped in him after he lost in 20 the 20. now cnn's alayna treene is live and elastic city just of the jersey shore for where trump held his rally yesterday afternoon. so what did trump after say about all of his court challenges and that came in the past week well, it's really interesting a minute because i think it was a big question going into saturday, whether donald trump would be tempted to potentially violate his gag order and attack stormy daniels and michael cohen, of course, is not allowed to do that. >> he's not allowed to go after witnesses, but his lawyers had actually tried to alter that that gag order last week because they argued that it's not fair that someone the witnesses are able to attack donald trump and that he can't defend himself. but instead of doing that, he talked about the cases more generally, he also baselessly claimed that president joe biden and democrats were the ones behind his charges. of course something we know is not true. take listen to how we put it in wild would yesterday then as you know, i've come here from new york where i'm being forced to endure a biden show trial. >> all done by biden jarryd is my right all being done by m carried out by radical democrat district attorney you know, is fat alvin corrupt guy. and then we have a highly conflicted judge. he's corrupted, highly conflicted. so conflicted. there's never been a judge says work inflicted so mano clearly just going very hard after the judge. and again, democrats, although we know that democrats are not involved in that trial, but i also want to bring your attention to some other things. i think it's really interesting that donald trump chose to hold one of his days outside of the courtroom in new jersey estate that we know is not a critical battleground. no hate on new jersey. i am from here. but his team acknowledges that this isn't really a state that they thinking can win. however, donald trump claimed yesterday that he actually thinks he could, could be competitive in new jersey and argue that he's going to make a play for it. he also praised doug burgum, the north dakota governor, also on his vp contender less. he brought burgum up to the stage as well and praised him during that. and he said to watch for something big that's coming. it's unclear if that's a tease to him being on his shortlist, but we know from our reporting that burgum is someone who's very high on his list as a contender for vice president manu. >> all right. new jersey is very own. lana lana train and that linux city. thanks for that all right. i'm joined now here on set its with cnn, sara marie semaphore is david why gold and cnn's jeff zeleny. good morning to you all happy mother's day, especially to the new mother at the table. thanks for joining us so just to remind viewers about just the hence week that happened in court last week, stormy daniels testified about her alleged sexual encounter with donald trump. a. described it in detail. she talked about the hush money that came after the access hollywood tape, of course, was least that was right before the 2016 campaign cuz by trump's attorneys by for lying, for profit. look, trump is clearly distracted by all this. so as you can see from attacking alvin bragg, the prosecutor calling him, quote to fat alvin in this, but also not hitting the campaign trail. biden has been crisscrossing the country. this is a rare rally for donald trump in a blue state, is clearly having an impact in him. and there's key moment in the campaign. >> yeah, i think it's interesting that one of donald trump's chief complaints about these trials is, oh, it's going to take me off of the campaign trail. you know, he's a criminal defendant. he has to be in that courtroom every day that court is in session, but he hasn't really been using his downtime and away. you might say, is most effective he has been able to sort of take over the news cycle that's the upside, i guess of being the criminal defendant is that we're watching everything he does, including whether he is or is not snoozing in the courtroom. he comes out at the end of the day. he makes remarks when he's leaving court, so there is in a weird way. some benefit he gets from being in court, from being in front of cameras every day, even if he's not out there holding rallies. >> yeah. >> the big the interested obviously, we're trying to assess and the reason why of course, is so significant is how does this impact what happens in november? >> that's verdict. that's going to eventually come. what will that verjee be? of course, there's no way of predicting how this this could play out, but is this the only case that could actually reach a verdict come november trump has had success in delaying several of the cases as he's done, the classified documents case, there's essentially postponed indefinitely because of an order from the judge past week, the georgia election subversion case it says august 5, but it's unclear if that actually is going to happen before november of it's tied up and other court issues and as well as the presidential election interference case, a federal case that's paused of vr over the supreme court decision about whether he has immunity as he claims that he does but has he been successful in convincing the american public that he says he's unfairly being prosecuted. look at the way that this pbs newshour pool breaks this down. i mean, the between democrats and republicans, obviously majors play about what another believe it was fair to see what their thoughts on the investigation and fair or unfair, but independence is split i've done the middle, 49, 49 about whether they believe trump is being treated fairly. >> that's why democrats aren't necessarily happy that this has dominated the news as you were talking about, they would love if they could control the news is i think that they might do, they would love it if the focus this week was on, what did he say to donors and mid mar-a-lago about how he'd get rid of regulation if they they gave him more money what what what are his tax policy? there are classic democratic issues that they beat mitt romney width, that they think donald trump is vulnerable on. and they talk about them, feel biden talks about them, and they can't they can't get covered. i'm not saying that they helpless person in the media. trump has also in public talking more about these trials. one thing he did doesn't new jersey, he said this about henry cuellar when he got indicted last week two and texas is that he has a mono method every every thing happening, every political corruption case is the biden administration trying to take out its enemies and it's very simple to understand that's very direct, that put positions him as the guy who's fighting corruption and democrats are struggling to say, well, look get the record. he might bring into the white house. yeah. i look there is no concern among democrats. some of them that i talked about the fact that there may not be a verdict region several these cases, including the decision by the judge in the florida classified documents case to essentially postpone indefinitely do you think that judge cannon's out of our element here? >> i think there are increasing well-justified doubts about the ability the experience that this judge should have to deal with this kind of challenging case there were you worried that trump me now face they may not be convicted felon come november on deeply concerned about a possible delay which may denied justice the american people, i'm sure they're going to have an impact on voters in some respect so he said blumenthal said, i'm deeply concerned about a possible delay which eight denied justice to american people. look, it looks like the trials are going to be delayed. so the reality here is that the campaign trail has merged with a courtroom, but this is going to be a decision of the voters. this is not going to be decided by a judge or a ct. and as you said earlier, monday, i think it's important to keep pointing out, we have no idea the political fallout of a verdict in new york. we just don't i mean conviction. might amplify him. it also might cause deep questions among those independent voters. the pull that you showed is really interesting there because there are pennants are watching this. i was in wisconsin this week talking to voters and people are not paying attention to the blow by blow of the trial, but people who want to move on beyond the chaos, it's not good for them donald trump's supporters think he is under attack here, and i think this is all ridiculous. so we'll have to see what the followed is of this. but i think interestingly, this week because we head into michael cohen. how does this affect donald trump personally? it's getting to him. there's no doubt. and for all the idea of campaigning will find out if campaigning actually matters. but fundraising does matter. donald trump, is way behind on that. that's what president biden has been doing, is he's been traveling across the country. i was on the west coast, so that's one of trump's shortcoming one of the shortcomings too, is being able to consolidate the republican party. we've seen weaknesses with haley voters, nikki haley voters in particular, after she dropped out of the primary, look at this several states, she's still getting a sizable amount of votes, including an indiana at this past tuesday republican primary, 22% of course, that's not gonna be a balance on ground, but there are battleground states on that list. >> and i talked to republicans sanders about this. donald trump supporters about nikki haley the impact that they are having some non down trump's supporters in this, in this lesson say about trump's weakness amongst suburban voters in swing style. >> i think it's pretty clear that impulse, we've lost some ground in that area. we've got to gain it back. i think it's notable to have someone who's exited the race still receiving 20% of the vote, though. so what does that say they weaknesses candidate it says there are a lot of republicans out there who are attracted to someone like nikki he, haley, even if she's no longer in the race, will look. >> i i certainly think would be helpful for ambassador haley to endorse the precedent if you don't think joe biden's bint a good president, and i would hope nikki haley and i real in that, why not endorse the republican nominee for president that's jd vance. >> of course, on the vp shortlist, he's calling on nikki haley to endorse, but she is meeting with our donors this weekend. no plans to endorse, so they have an impact you know, it's hard to know. i think if there's 20% of folks who are backing nikki haley are ever going to be for trump. this may be a block of voters that don't necessarily care what nikki haley has to say about where they should go. instead, i think it's very clear that there is a base of not just republicans but americans who want an alternative to donald trump's certainly, but also want an alternative to joe biden. >> i was talking to a supporter and a longtime friend of nikki haley's and said she doesn't control these voters. it's not something that an endorsement is going to change, as sarah said, some, these are these voters are looking for someone else, but also talking to that friend says he knows how to reach her if he wants to make amends let's start winning over voters. so the haley scored, they're like donald trump needs to call her. yeah. so it meantime, over the weekend, he said she's not on his vp less i'm not sure exactly when he's probably true it's hard to imagine her passing the loyalty test. yes. i don't think that she would. all right. up next, our new reporting on the pro israel group trying to take down the squad is biden goes more isolated over 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use the leverage we have to persuade israel to change its conduct yet as biden's left wing continues to voice their frustration, some of the most progressive democrats now, now are vulnerable because of pro israel forces within the party targeting them in their primaries. my panel is back up the biden has been first he came out, he was resolutely in support of what was happening in israel. he was 100% behind netanyahu, republicans applauded him. now he's moving closer to the position in growing position in his party, and he's getting flack from the left, even though some of them did applaud them, as you can see on your screen when he's when he made that wanting to erin burnett, that he would not allow for military certain ammunition to go to bombs to be given to israel if orders a full-scale invasion into rafah. >> he's getting hammered on both sides it is incredibly difficult position. >> what are you hearing inside the white house about how they're dealing with this started it's very with the protest movement that he's dealing with them, the democrats who were frustrated about where he's going. >> yes, that was significant statement the white house's had a position that he is not bending. he said, the president has said out loud, he has not been moved by the student protest protesters took that statement as evidenced that they were they were getting some traction. young committed movements said, this is a good step forward, but we need him to end a wall. >> will weapons for israel's work. what unquote, which is not going to happen so the white house has been denials, a tough word they have, they have sort of put this off to the sayyed, everything from events where protesters are screened so that they're not coming in smaller events and people can interrupt, disrupt the messaging. they have tried to continue this, this policy, white white blood will pleasing nobody this statement did, please, at a very small level, some student protests. but what's the impact of that going to be? yeah, people who've been protesting we have been told. all right. we can make an impact even though he said we didn't if we keep being obstinate and we keep threatening democrats with defeat. >> and if this is invasion continues to go on and there's no ceasefire, this is going to be obviously it continued issue that the presence gonna have to wrap up what they november impact is something of course, we assess here on inside politics, one of the impacts that could happen is within the democratic party down ticket members, some of the more progressive members who have been critical of the israeli government sharply critical of israel. we've new reporting. this morning with my great colleague, isaac dovere, about how jamaal bowman it was one of the more liberal members of the house democratic caucus t is now facing a very difficult primary. in fact, he could lose. there's a belief among a lot of democrats that he could very well be the one of the first members to lose in large part because of his view on israel has a june primary icon up with both him and cori bush is another member on the left who is being targeted by those israel forces is coming after you pop it up, you're challenger. george latimer. what do you think about the fact that you're being targeted here's what it is. >> it's all good, you know, we have a really strong record in a district. like us being critical of israel, but they don't understand is us being critical of an ally makes our allies stronger and c5a in the long term, do you want equivocally condemn hamas for october 7 october 7 i say how many times have you not looked at my statements, so we'll look at the statements so we did look back at her statements. one of them said that from october 7 talked about hamas condemning. she said she's heartbroken about the violence that happened there are falling attacks by hamas militants on israel, israeli border towns in an israeli military bombardment, she condemned the targeting of civilians. >> jeff, how do you see the new view cover progressive politics, democratic politics very closely. >> how do you see this plane now? >> a look, i mean, it's sort of different district by district, but there was a primary just a couple of weeks ago in the pittsburgh urea some really at democratic member of congress was also under attack on this issue. and she won the primary just fine. so we'll see i think it depends how strong the member isn't in their district overall writ large. that what dave said was very interesting the statement from the uncommitted movement, that movement that brought the uncommitted vote in michigan and some other states was the most positive statement toward the biden administration that we've seen in months, saying it was a step forward. so if you take a look back at thiss v dramatically from that hug with a netanyahu when he fluid is in the days after the attack, but look, it's not enough for some, but this is still dividing the democratic party, dividing the progressive wing, but someone like jamaal bowman is, you know, i mean, he may have severe issues, but his district is much different than corey bushes district, for example, in st. louis. so i think it's district by district will see. but one thing this will play out as we know now in the chicago democratic convention. >> and look, in there's also the people. of course, there's a big pro-israel part of the democratic party as well, including congressman steady johayo, the former house majority leader what do you think just in general, their positions on israel does it concern you, your colleagues regret that there are members who are in effect i think reflecting the views of hamas, which are to kill jews and eliminated it's real and when you're talking about from the river to the sea i think it's very unfortunate yeah. >> he says that he didn't name names, but he said some of the members and his party are reflecting the views of hamas yeah, i think that this is really laying bare the split within the democratic party and also just the complexity of this issue. >> there are a lot of people who are coming to this issue new are not familiar with the history in that region. now that doesn't mean that they will never right to have an opinion on what they're seeing happening but i also think this pressure that the biden administration is feeling, this pressure of the democratic party is feeling is also because of what we have seen playing out on the ground. it's because of that crisis that we've seen that accumulated. it's because of civilian deaths that are mounting. and so i think that there's no sign that any of this pressure is going to go away as you pointed out, it's gonna be a huge issue when we get to the answer but one thing you, some really didn't pittsburgh and the rest of the squad plot plus is going to do, is take biden statement and polarize this domestically and say whatever you think of israel, who is getting involved in these races, it's republican donors, it's people who donate to conservative candidates, aipac pac has been helping republicans. >> why is it against me? you're going to hear that over the next few months it was primary to refrain. that's not about the israel position and it is about why are these donors so interested in beating me? why are these republicans which didn't beating me so democrats trying to push the israeli shadow side make it pop polarized and part partisan. >> and how does this play in november of course, that's a big question. well biden. >> there was a poll that came out about wisconsin voters, the clinic pi polls international conflicts are ranked lowest on this list. >> most of course, the economy preserving democracy right underneath that geoff, you were just in wisconsin and i want to i want our viewers to listen to what they said to you to about their issues your paycheck, and it looks good, but then when you pay the bills out, it's like, wow, it's all gone or it can who gets the blame for that? you think? >> all right. thank the administration. that's in power because that's that's when it happened. >> i just think that people have forgotten how chaotic it was. when trump was president. i feel a lot better now that we've had almost four years, if biden start great, but it's better what was your takeaway? >> so the bottom line is inflation is still a much more central concern to most voters. that's not saying that foreign affairs isn't, but it's sort of under the rubric of strong leader is president biden a strong leader? does he look? like he's in command of these issues? that is what is going to be front and center. but for all the tragedy and attention that foreign policy is taking up, it's not front of mind for voters. >> interesting. all right, up next to reliably blue stain. >> now up for grabs in november you may be stunned to learn just how much one democrat is spinning out of his own personal fortune to win. coming up new reporting on how donald 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his hat in the ring meaning maryland is now central to the battle for the senate majority is democrats face a daunting map in the quest to hang on to power now, the democratic primary it has been smashing records for spending, and that's because congressman david trone is pouring his personal fortune into what has become an increasingly vicious race nspr'y executive. angela alsobrooks me racial issues and trolls, wealth, central to the attacks. so ahead of this, tuesday's primary sorry, i asked the two sitting maryland democratic senators about the personal attacks being leveled between the two democrats angel ulcer books is the stronger can choose the best candidate i'm proud of endorsed her. >> she's the best candidates are run against larry hogan in the general election and it's, it's unfortunate that trone campaign decided to go negative. >> we have to really good people running. i'm very anxious get the primary over with so we can concentrate on the general. this happens during campaigns. i would prefer to see it run with the each candidate promoting themselves of course, it didn't quite happen that way. >> dave, you're just a story for some before about this headline, democrats never expected this senate primary to have such high a stakes in their trone tells you that he believes that his money vast word gin, will give them a lot more flexibility them as and democrats spend money elsewhere. what was your takeaway? >> yes, he's very blatant as part of my takeaway trone. if you ask about his his spending advantage, he added total wine. he's a lot of money to play with. he spent more than $61 million on this primary great. with the expectation you want to spend another 61 million. i asked him as part of your message here that the dsmc can spend a montana and ohio and that other democrats toward. and he said yes. and when have you gotten the race that did transform things because maryland's never elected a non-white, sorry, it's elected a white female, snyder, it's it's most elected white man's never liked it the black woman to the senate. and a lot of democrats publicly started saying, i'd love to make history, but i'm very nervous. maybe this wealthy candidate can take the seat off the board and the reaction you saw for the senators is that alsobrooks is turned that into my opponent is going needlessly negative. and if he had to spend $61 million to beat me, what's the why are you so confident? beat larry hogan and his was quite well and is really up for grabs. it's been a major split. just look into the endorsements, how it's gone between also brooks intron, the senators are one of them. as you heard from chris van hollen democratic senator not endorsing his remember from the delegation and endorsing angela alsobrooks instead. but you mentioned the spending. this is just the ad spending 46 million he spent on ads compared to 4 million that's an end to what advantage any still be that when i mean, it looks very close, expensive a market because a lot of those ads bleed over into virginia min, right here, into dc. >> but look, this is going to be a fascinating contest. i still have a little bit of a hard time thinking larry hogan has a strong shot in november. he is the difference between a governor's race and that was a democrat trying to say control the senate is at stake for particularly with president biden on the ballot, but we shall see, but the money point is a fascinating one. i can't recall a time when someone has been so blatant about that any is not apologetic. >> they're usually like they don't like to talk about are wealthy is refreshing it's not like running away from it, but it is a central issue. yeah, it is in speaking of which the ads we've talked about, very personal, just take a listen you get what you pay for david trone in his company's gave half $1 million to extreme and maga public ins to win their elections. angela wholesale brooks, false attack ad against david trone, claims, again, what you paid for it, maybe that's why also works is ranking houses from lobbyists. >> when i hear my opponents say things about me, he knows or false. i know it's just another way we're different. >> what he's done, and congress is what he's got to set the us than it it's not a place for training wheels us senate is not a place for trading those. >> he's had to clean that up a bit, but i mean politics is a dirty business. i know there's always all the frothing about the primaries now, negative the primaries are, i think maryland when democrats are, there are gonna be able to figure it out. you might behind whoever wins and 60 million out of money. imagine putting that money in and not winning. >> curious to see what you, when you were out there, did democrats, or is there a fear on the ground that they could cause some in november this back-and-forth? yes. this week, a number of state democratic party chairs who are mostly supportive. alsobrooks came out and the setting was kind of funny, prone to giving a prescott trump's campaign had a press conference, latino leaders for pg county is saying that alsobrooks was not respectful to latinos. and then two hours later in the very same place, it was a polling site in silver spring, these former democratic hey chair came out and said, this campaign is two negative. it's david drones fault. he's going to have trouble uniting the party if he wins. i ask susie turnbull, form. former chair, would you have trouble winning black voters? she said, yes, it's a real problem. he's made mistakes. he's the training wheels comments stuck. he's made other gaps. you and he's emphasized that he's spent a lot of money on john charity on criminal justice reform but democrats are saying out loud, please, this is way uglier than we need a race in a very blue st. state to be, you're going to have trouble if you are a nominee and steve daines, chairman of the republican side trial campaign committee. i asked him about this. he said the democratic party, the fight is not going to help is getting very personal, very expensive hamas, the cause. and i asked him about, aren't you concerned about david trans money? he's got so much money in that kind of helped democrats can now is, well, you spending this much money, you can begin barreling when a prime, right? >> but a general, obviously it's a very different matter in a very blue state. so again, it's hard for me to, even though larry hogan very popular in a senate race. i think a lot will have to happen for this to be massively competitive in the fall i could be wrong. we'll see, but senate races generally in presidential years, it's hard to make them overtake the top of the ticket, split ticketing voting has been rare trump on the ticket and actually splitting the fact that is ticking. voting has not been as common in recent cycles actually could hurt democrats other states like ohio, for sure, in montana when they're trying to keep their seats. all right rfk jr. has been getting 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is worried about ones like this, which showed trump leading biden by 2% in a head-to-head race. but losing to biden by 2%. when rfk enters mix, although that is within the margin of error, i panel is back. >> trump posted also so on social media, going after rfk jr. rfk jr. is a democrat plant, a radical left liberal who's been put in place in order to help crooked joe biden, the worst president in the history of the united states get re-elected a vote for junior would essentially to be a wasted protest vote what do you make of the uptake and the trump campaigns targeting of rfk janja. it surprised especially the second part of that where he emphasizes that rfk is a fake anti-vax candidate using the anti-vax, which is this has been a defining issue of gadi's greer for 18 years, criticism of vaccines. >> that is interesting it's very frenzy, it's not, it's not as detailed and dug in as democrats. >> democrats have an entire opposition operation, multiple staff working both publicly against him emphasize putting out opposition research, trying to hurt him as he gets onto, onto state ballots. republicans are just putting out these comments. trump's putting out these comments and trump trump invited rfk jr. to meet them after the 20th 16 election when he was discussing a possible role administration. so he's not consistent on this. he's trying to throw up dust and say to voters were lightly paying attention, listening to conservative podcast and media. this guy who's doing a lot of conservative by gaetz media, very popular guest on shows. let's do by trump voters that you can't basically trust them, but they're not doing a lot more than that. >> you talked to the biden campaign a lot of very regularly are they changing their approached rfk jr. anyway a little bit third, doing a lot behind the scenes to watch specific state ballot access things potentially challenging a signatures and things. >> but it's. been interesting to watch that not really increase. they are watching to see all this play out because there is a school of thought that it does help biden in some respects, i mean, the reality to all of this. so the reason that some people are looking at rfk jr. is that there's not a lot of interest in biden and trump. there is a huge sense out there that people were looking for a different alternative. so the biden campaign this definitely watching it in battleground states in wisconsin for example, it only takes 2000 signatures to get on the ballot. you can get that saturday morning at the farmer's market and madison is you know, that is going to be pretty easy. so in the battleground states, it is going to make a difference and the biden campaign is worried about that. >> i appreciate the madison reference and the question also is the debate stage. will robert f. kennedy jr. make the debate stage? he put out a tweet after this whole worm issue came out saying, i offered to eat five more brain worms and still beat president biden, president trump, and president biden in a debate. now, our colleague harry enten, reported about this weekend debates stage and because the e threshold, the polling threshold is reached certain pollen threshold, it'd be on the ballot a number of states. the map on your screen there it shows you that he has actually is making it more and more ballots, but third party, if he gets on the debate stage that. she does everything. i mean, third-party candidates obviously had a huge impact in past alexa is 2016 being the most recent example of that. but if he's on the debate stage, who knows what this land now, i think that you would have to be unreasonable to not have some heartburn if you're either the trump campaign or the biden campaign, not just because what happened with third-party candidate that's in 2016, but even just looking at the margins in 2020 and some of these battleground states, you have to be concerned about rfk, ability to get on the ballot, which frankly they've been doing a pretty good job of them being very public about saying, we want the biden people and we want the trump people. we think that we can pull from both sides. so i think that the two major party candidates have a lot of heartburn about it. >> yeah, interesting how he's been dealing with some of his policy positions, rfk jr. he was talking about abortion this past week in the sort of had to clean it up this way. >> he said on thursday we should leave it to the woman, we shouldn't have government involved even if it's full term even if it's full term. >> i'm pretty unequivocal there, right. even if it's full turn, but friday came out a post and put it on x saying abortion should be legal up until a certain number of weeks. and restricted their after, even in the redness of red stakes, he said voters reject total abortion bans. and he said that no one supports third dressed her the first trimester abortions. what do you make of that but practically this is a reason why a debate and 90 minutes on 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