this from berlin. so fred, let's start with what you've been learning about. who was behind this and how russia might respond either victor well, first of all, the russians are saying that that death toll that you mentioned is already well over 100. now actually the russian sphere that, that is actually still going to rise. they say right now that the authorities are actually combing through that building, the crocus city hall on the outskirts of moscow a place called cross neil gorsuch, the roof of that building, obviously partially collapsed. a lot of the place has been burned down. so the russian authorities still going through that right now. now, as far as the attackers themselves are concerned, the russians are now saying claiming that they have apprehended, not just the for attackers that they say went inside the crocus city hall and started shooting people at point blank, as eyewitnesses said, they also say that they have seven people who they say worked together with these perpetrators. so not 11 people in total in custody right now, the russians are saying that the alleged gunman fled moscow in a white car and that they were stopped and apprehended in the bryansk area. now that's significant because that area is very close to ukraine. and as of right now in all this still preliminary as far as the russians are concerned they claim that the attackers and their accomplices wanted to flee to ukraine, wanted to go across the border and had quote, relevant contacts inside ukraine. they have so far not confirm that they believe isis is behind all of this. the us obviously says that i said at least says i have no doubt that about the claim that ice is up and forward ice is of course, put forward. their claim, the russians at this point in time appearing possibly to talk about some sort possible link to ukraine, the ukrainians for their part, of course have vehemently been denying having anything to do with this viktor rep bike in force in berlin. thank you for it >> we're also >> following the continued outpouring of concern and support for catherine, the prince of wales. she announced that she he's now in the early stages of treatment for cancer. the princess says that doctors found the cancer during surgery in january. her video message addresses some but not all of the questions about her health. cnn's richard quest, it's outside buckingham palace let's start with the reaction to the announcement about the diagnosis, but also what is next for k1 and the royal family >> i think the next what's next is coming to terms with it. and actually dealing with the issues of chemotherapy treatment. you said what's in terms of her medical what's happening? i don't expect we're going to find out anymore. the palace kensington palace have made it quite clear. they are not going to do a running commentary on the princess's medical condition and treatment. we know that she has started the chemo that happened at the end of february. but what stage the cancer is out indeed what type the cancer all we know is that she had major abdominal surgery, which was successful as far as it went. why she had it, the symptoms. we just don't know. and that's the way i think it's going to remain because their priority, the families priority now is with the children. obviously, george, charlotte, and louis, who are now on easter vacation. >> it >> means they timed the reveal of her condition to the easter holidays so that the children did not have to be at school with everybody talking about what was happening to them. mum. now they're on holiday either than norfolk comb or at windsor or one of the other homes or maybe they're going away with other families. we don't know but this is really all about as the princess herself said, coming to terms with it, explaining it in appropriate ways, and asked for the mood picked what is the mood? well, i think if you'd look at the morning papers, you've talked to the people, even my family on all family whatsapp chats. it's been a case of very sad, sympathetic wishing well. and do you know something she's right, victor leave the poor woman alone and let her get well yeah, she has enough to think about and concern herself with other than the press hounding her four pictures and for details, i understand that richard quest. thank you so much their force in london. now, kate ended her message with this >> at this time. i'm also thinking of all those whose lives have been affected by cancer for everyone facing this disease, in whatever form please do not lose faith or hope you are not alone >> i want to talk about this with tricia goddard. she is the host of this week or the week rather with tricia gotta, trisha it's good to see you again. it's been a while since you and i have talked on air. you posted on social media you're about you're living with cancer and about as you said, the added emotional burden caused by the responses to the diagnosis and the return help us understand what that is, especially on a scale of princess kate i'm so glad. thank you so much for asking that actually it's such an insightful question people imagine how they would be in the situation. >> so you often get >> catherine is going to get this unfortunately everybody knows, somebody. i mean, sometimes when you finally tell someone that you have cancer, they'll say, oh my god, i know so much about it. my aunt and my cousin had this terrible death of cancer. >> the >> first person you do not tell about terrible, that's in your family from cancer is someone who's just told you about it. the other thing is labeling someone brave when you say someone's brave, you shut them down from being able to cry, be upset et cetera. unsolicited advice. oh, i've been told if i drank dandelion t and if i use garlic, then the cancer will go >> we don't need an unsolicited advice about diet because the person give it giving it however much they think they're an expert, they don't know what stage of treatment in urine your ethnicity, what your allergies maybe >> there are special >> oncologists, nutritionist, who have your medical notes. you can do that now. catherine in that last message that you play, i'm so glad you played that. you notice she didn't say to all those battling cancer. she said peop people in people. going, through cancer hate that term, battling many of us won't say anything because it's said with the kindest way. >> but really, how do you battle cancer? >> we talk about this >> person won the battle with cancer. this person lost. i mean, what do we do? go if we don't >> answer. we get up. we are >> not diagnosis. there are currently millions of americans millions of britz >> i >> actually want to reach out to black americans who are going through this because we know you we don't show up in hospital. we don't show up for our tests enough where scared. there's too much rubbish surrounding too many mad ideas about it, please, if you see something a little bit scary or feels something a little bit scary, worry their hell out of if your health care provider. >> but >> the thing is, we are not are diagnosis. we want to live, we want to be moms. we don't want to be hassled. catherine doesn't need to be hassled by people saying exactly what kind of canceled you got, what stage is it? we don't need to be reminded of it. i think you and i you and i have worked together with and i've worked with everyone no one knew for 19 months. i mean, when i had my wig no one knew because i'm a journalist first. >> yeah. >> and i think it's important about going to the dr. we also have covered especially on this show, the implicit bias that black people phase, once they get to these doctors. so make sure as you say, you're hound them and then get another opinion because we have covered also misdiagnoses sometimes that have been tragic. and the terminology is so important, i listened to this conversation you had with erin burnett about survivor and one who won the battle? and lost the battle. does that suggest that the person who lost a battle with cancer was weaker or did not do everything necessary. we need to be very careful around that. let me get one more in here on kate. >> and >> just really the last time we were together in new york, it was around the time of the queen's funeral we've covered the tension with harry and meghan. we have covered the king's diagnosis as well. and now kate's diagnosis just talked about, if you will this difficult period for the family in royal family it is really difficult. and of course we forget i'm sarah ferguson, who still, after all, eugenie and beatrice is mom, and she'd been welcomed back into the fold. sheik to had a cancer diagnosis if you remember? it is king charles talked about slimming down the monarchy that's really difficult now, because there aren't enough people to fulfill things in the royal diary, that have been planned. sometimes years and advance. >> so >> we understand today that harry has just found out they didn't know before that's understandable. you often keep it quiet from from family members just while you try and come to terms with it. this is an opportunity and i one of those people who likes to believe in disney endings. but this is an opportunity, for harry and meghan to come back into the fold. britain has already pitched to host the invictus games harry was going to come to the uk anyway. this is an opportunity where it's a win-win. >> so i really >> hope that harry and meghan are invited back in that conversations over approximants start and the uk can start to see harry and meghan because megan is so important to anybody who feels othered or people of color, black people, et cetera. so i'd love to see them back in the uk. >> tricia gotten always good to talk to you and thank you so much for spending some time with me this morning. >> so welcome thank you. victor. still >> ahead on first of all, should black college athletes reject offers from or 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call the ban do essential rejection of college and universities which have eliminated dei, the bus boycott of our air. explain well, why should any student go to an institution that won't want to erase their history, not provide >> knowledge of who they are and contributions from their community. >> it is unfortunate that >> these various schools who are planning determined, they're going to make tens of millions of dollars off the back of black athletes who they wanted to their existence. >> okay so let me ask you about the choice that you're asking these sometimes 17, 18-year-olds to make if an auburn or florida state offers a black athlete, a student that lead of full ride to come in play. you want them to say no, i'm going to go to another school that maybe has inferior facilities or is not paying for college because those schools don't have dei programs but let's be clear if an athlete is being offered a full writer abrera, florida, that same athletes, but an awful a fluoride at usc, >> uc la me, university of michigan, ohio state immediate institutions that have equal or greater facilities and will not have that decided to deny their existence this is not slavery. they should be a scenario where schools who honor respect individuals also is a school that would say, you know, i can provide athletic programs for you, but also exposure to diversity. and critical thinking skills. the most important thing about this whole debate is what is the pei institution? isn't saying that we're going to give you history, but you're not going to learn about martin luther king. they were going to provide you knowledge about literature which we won't teach you about james baldwin, alexey news. what is the what is being denied here? >> it is so vague that it is unfortunate. anything that could be alluded to blackness or native american history, or latino history are women history could be considered inclusion. therefore, it is banned. it is unfortunate that this political climate trying to take us back to 19 if '50s existence, where we are in a global economy and we have more in a goblet, is more diverse than we've ever seen in the history of country. >> and we've just learned with this bill that was passed through congress and headed to the president's desk that the house, the us house de i office has been eliminated that will no longer be funded. but on this question, the request for students, it is not always the case that a student who is the recruited by a school in florida that does not have dei will also get a full ride off or from some other school than all playing in march madness, they're not all playing for a championships. some of them might be on sports that have limited budgets at other schools. but if the point of equity considering that you're asking them to make this choice, you make it these are go ahead. these are tapped to sue. these are taught to your schools. these are schools that have program who's that font the entire universities when you think about university of florida or our urban, or alabama, these are top tier schools where people are highly recruited because they have, he would not all those stages have those budgets we're talking about across all seven states >> well, let's be clear, >> but not all states are doing is they're 50 states. you have hbcus in florida that they can attend. you have top universities in states that are not competing in ncaa tournament because they don't have the talent, but they have the research sources. so let's not give a false argument or two arguments because they will have to be a choice that is made between going to college where you can get a free education or go into a place where you have to maybe incurred debt. and if the point of equity is to take into consideration historic local disadvantages in an aim to get to a more equal finish. do you want that black student who can go and play tennis at a university or baseball at a university for free. and change the trajectory of his family instead for a point to go to another school and leave with tens the thousands of dollars in debt >> let's be clear, we're not talking about tennis, we're not talking about soccer. we're talking about football and basketball said adding in any of these steps allow me to finish, are we talking about the revenue generated skills secondly, there are thousands of schools across the country who works are starving for this quantity of athletes attend their schools. if a student is confronted with a choice between debt and no dead, that's different. captors would that's not the reality here. we're talking about seven states we're talking about state universities, not private schools. and we're talking about the cream of the cream athletes who are funding the very institutions that are not positioned to deny their existence. we would still have a hearing on that cc, you make no exception for that in your allow me to finish. we will have schools at scc right now still fly the confederate flag but for black athletes, so i'm not going to go to ole ms i'm not going to go to a georgia or alabama until that flag came down and as a result of that, we started seeing state flats in school flags and pep rallies changing from the confederacy in here, something that was more, if you make no argument to ask, you make no exceptions in your argument >> would you what you attend one of those schools today? >> i went to howard university where i didn't have to think about and what when it comes to go anywhere else >> so the privilege that you speak it for that i'm speaking for we want to hbc, but talking about privilege also talking about the privilege to choose between. i can go to this school for free and play and change the trajectory of my family. but because you want them to make a point, you're asking them to actually take on debt sorry, sir. i put it this way. >> any student who >> respect themselves and understand the impact of any school that deny their existence and still give their athletic ability to that school to generate revenue. we are talking about a system borderline slavery. we should not support that or present whether we are doing this commutator, anything else that fake argument there absolutely is not a fake argument. there's >> any >> me i hear you who have the ability to pick consider by a top tier school for athletes there are other options. we're not saying don't deny so much there are options. there always are. thank you. always good to have the conversation into play. ct nwa cp president and ceo, derrick johnson. thanks so much. all right. still ahead. what is next for community and mississippi after members of a so-called goon squad were sentenced for torturing two black men sanity needs to save space >> you have a show were right and left talk to each other cnn presents an encore presentation of hbo's real time with bill maher tonight at eight on cnn >> doug, hello, ghostbusters it's duck of dudley 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january 2023, the officers raided a house without a warrant after a neighbor reported that black men were staying in a white woman's home well, they beat and tased eddie parker and michael jenkins while they were handcuffed. they shot one man in the mouth. all six defendants pleaded guilty, received sentences between ten years. cnn's ryan young has been covering this case for us since it was first reported all the way through sentencing. thank you for coming. then let me start here with the survivors of this attack and their responses, their reactions to the sentences, what have they said? >> an emotional week as you can imagine, the terror that they have felt the fact that they are still dealing with this trauma michael jenkins had has had learned to talk again. his tongue was severed when that gunshot went outside of his mouth, took out his tongue, and he was on the ground bleeding while they were discussing how to clean things up so for them this pain has been continuous and not everyone believed them. so it took months for people to get in line with this. the officers confess, they pled guilty, so that helped. >> but listen to eddie parker, >> just talk about the pain and what they've had to go through over the last few years not to have the same 50 >> the >> night of january 24 was only me and michael simply with only thing we wanted, safety is where we did i get all my remember come on back but we got symmetry today we got to appreciation today. we got joint day pain still him as man, but painting is slowly, slowly running away >> yeah, watching him in court was very interesting because he watched his friend be shot was crying he actually stood up during one of the sentences and said, i forgive you. so there was there was some forgiveness there. but at the same time, you understand there been brutalized over and over. we even talked about the fact that they were sexually assaulted during this. they had a sex toy stuck in their mouth. they tried to force it into the backside of one of the menn. and the reason why i didn't go in is because he started defecating upon themselves then they forced them to take a shower together as they were tasting a little we're now over its sorter torture. it was tortured 88 minutes worth this so-called goon squad. they weren't shy about bragging about this. it wasn't official, but they had emblems where they had a new center confederate flag and the emblem of the rankin county sheriff's department. the leader of that department bryan bailey, was reelected last year. there have been calls for him to resign. what's he say? >> well, i've actually talked to bryan bailey. i was one of the few reporters to get him in a one-to-one >> and he >> stated that he doesn't believe he should step down because he says he had no idea this was going on. even though his fourth think command was involved. he said he had no clue that these men were going this far. but members of the community are saying they absolutely had to 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called booty shaking. >> they want no social media it really hit in doing free click star, star coming in. he was the to pass cookie mob outcast. i serine >> i don't know what happened it's like, but this seems like a version of it. you literally >> the legacy of freaked mic is black joy, black self-determination excellent so, that it's >> but the legacy of frequent is also the ugly side >> jermaine dupri is here. he's executive producer of freak nick, the wildest party. never told thanks for coming. thanks so sat down to watch it. i expected one thing and it is so much more than i guess the ankle louk era of freak deck. yeah he actually calls this frequency ec our woodstock. you agree with that >> yeah. i mean, it's the first first of all, this is a first documentary that is done from the south to show the world the cultural explosion of atlanta in the southern hip hop in itself, right? so if you take that you just start finding out things that you it's moves like woodstock. i didn't go to that's so much about woodstock, but what i can imagine from what i've seen is yeah, it's so many things that came from freak nick that is not even like the word freak, the word freak is not about louk, is not about a strip club, is not about girls wiling. they got that from the song sheet a freak song that she cat and i just don't think people know, you what the history was and me being in atlanta, it was a lot of history that i didn't know and i think that's important, that that's the only way we can move forward. >> it's so well done because it starts with just some hbcu students from the auc who decided to stay during spring break, but i didn't decide they couldn't afford couldn't afford they couldn't afford to go excited to have an event party together to have a party, then that in itself to me as a person has like always looking for things that motivate myself so, you know, if you don't have anything and you just put your mind together and then you think about the other people that's probably around in the same space that are feeling the same way like they probably felt really bad about themselves and not having no money to be able to go to any one of these places for spring break or even go back home? and then they decided through this picnic and now we are cnn talking about it's crazy, grew to hundreds of thousands of people coming from around the country. freak neck. >> and you talked about the cultural element, which i thought it was just going to be about freak neck, but also about the music and the southern influence on music and culture and how you would use the event to introduce artists >> well, once i realized, because it's 16, i think that's when i got my license and i start shopping around and i could actually see what was actually happening that's when that's when i started knowing allow freaking again as i turned 1920, crisscross came out, which was 92, and then i got my i got my labels started in 93.93 is when i really started saying wow, this freak nick thing is something we should try to use this as a marketing tool, right? all of these people industry, so all these people walking around, let's give them music, let's give them flyers. let's put up a social death billboard. let's do everything we can to be to use this as a promotional tool. and from 93, 94 so 96, that was what i was doing. >> and the two fed each other. >> yeah, 100%. >> so how do you then reconcile? because near the end in the late '90s, it became as i said, much wilder. and there were assault, sexual assault, and it became known for that near the end do you reconcile the nostalgia of what people loved about freak nick and what it became the uglier side >> i mean, it's not it's really it's really think nothing you can really do to reconcile, i think is just because one thing about it was that it wasn't just a block. i think what people don't that's another thing that people don't realize like people say, well, greek fess was like this in philly and this thing was like this in miami beach, right? and miami beach is just miami beach? the kids don't go across that bridge in frequently. take was in college park. there was indicated that it was all downtown. there was everywhere. it was people everywhere. and i don't think you understand that magnitude. so also, it's hard to govern all of these areas at one time and make sure by safe unfortunately you don't you don't know that that's the energy that we're headed into >> and eventually the committee that created it or was in control of it? they suggested that it should end because of in the late '90s, what it became, what i was the city that then that's another thing that was the disconnect to me was that the five people who create it for evening weren't talking to the city and the city created a committee that wasn't talking to create bots and creators it's all hulu. so i suggest everybody go was number one by the way, is number one on who as it deserves to be. yeah. let me ask >> you, can actually about the super bowl fit. of course you still stand by this the look, you got a lot of ribbon online for it >> let me i don't i don't know why. >> okay. it is what it is. i mean, i think that, you know as a person who's entertainer and as a person who made the world put their clothes on backwards with crisscross yeah. >> i just put on clothes and, you know, if it excites the eye you will see it again >> listen, i went to find those socks. i was like, i'm just as a joke going where the sex i can't afford those sack o i can't afford those sacks. let me ask you that. we talk about politics on the show 2020. you backed the biden harris campaign did some work to get out the vote you back in a biden again, 2024. >> i don't know. i've been working so much. i haven't really been paying attention to make sure that they saying the right things and doing what they supposed to be done. i mean, i feel like i do notice that we date. they need help though, i mean, i feel like i feel like trump is using every thing that he could possibly do to get everybody vote and try to try, you know, doing everything he can do. so i haven't really got my head locked into it, but i have noticed the little things that i've been saying okay. i'm b i know that, you know, like i said, i am i've always been a supporter of democrats, so i guess, you know, they got earned it yet again. i mean, it's okay. it can't be you know, i think that was one of the big problems is that we keep, you know, if you support you, you got to make sure you do what you gotta do, what you tell us you going to do, talk about it. let's see about all >> did you made your brief? thank you. >> thank you so much. >> all right. freak mic. the wildest party never told is out on hulu. and number one right now? yes. >> coming up the sports betting, boom, you may be surprised by which group is most likely to gamble gamble more often and lose more money >> your favorite rock diblock teens are back for redemption. and 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the list, black people followed by latinos and asians. the ncw survey found that black people are also more likely to bet specifically on cotton college basketball. and this is worrying. >> black people >> bet more often, wager more money and lose more money according to the survey, dr. timothy fang is with us. he's a co-director of ucla. is gambling studies program. thanks so much for being with me. i want to read more of these stats and then get your insight here. 68% of black respondents to the survey say they've engaged in sports betting higher than any other racial demographic. black sports betters are twice as likely to bet $100 a more 10% of black betters are losing reportedly 500 or more in a single day versus the 6% of the general population. is there any insight into why >> oh, absolutely. thank you for having me. well, number one, gambling as a human condition, but number two we're certainly learning more and more than a gambling is disproportionately affecting communities of color. and this is same this factors poverty, lack of resources all sorts other social determinants of health that are leading to communities of color are taking larger and larger risks and say other ethnic communities in america. >> and so when someone has and would gambling reaches the level of addiction? and there needs to be treatment? do the concerns about disparities and health care applied to the treatment for gambling addiction to oh absolutely if not even more, you think about what gambling disorder is, it's an addiction, but it's a highly shameful and stigmatizing condition pile on top of that. communities of color. there's hesitancy and mistrust of going to health care providers. and what you get are by the time folks of color come into treatment, it's really severe the damage is phenomenally much, much greater than we see from other ethnicities. >> sports, betting is legal in 38 states and dc now, how much does the legality of betting matter? here are people betting more? in these states where it's legal than the side bets. and i guess pools that people have in states where it's not legal >> well, i think bedding is expanded just exponentially in all parts of america regardless of whether it's legal or illegal, are regulated unregulated. but certainly we know because of the expansion tangent of gamma in the last five-year, more calls again when helpline more concerns from communities, more attention paid to gambling and of course, when you have all the advertising, it's very positive, very, very much glamorized and gamma and you're gonna get an increase in gambling. look at all the ads. it says gambling is a way out. gambling as a way of achieving spectacular success. so of course you're going to see a rise in ganim win across the board. and essentially all communities in america are these, are these companies focusing on communities of color, black potential betters, latinos, asians more than they are white betters >> well in some communities 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