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does not come up with half 1 billion bucks by monday. and why all of this could be a huge national security risks tonight, i'm codes live all right, so here she comes. letitia james i'm just leaving a trail of breadcrumbs to going that she is preparing to try to seize donald trump's westchester golf course and private seven springs, the state about an hour north of manhattan. i mean, first of all, look at this property. it's like a part of dynasty from the '80s but this time it in fact is personal. this is the estate or eric trump told four of the trump's would spend their summers and an unwelcome guest, i e the new york attorney general, maybe knocking on the door if donald trump cannot come up with $464 million plus interests, by the way by monday, i mean, this message, can it get any clearer >> i, >> do do a lot of jerry maguire references and i am not going to apologize for it. but if he doesn't show her the money in four days, his properties could start falling like dominos, but big as this trouble is for one, donald trump, more than $464 million worth a big, you know what it could even be bigger trouble for the country. we ask yourselves, could his debt be a national security risk if he turns to america's enemies and rivals for assistance. i'm listened to what one of his attorneys has to say about that >> is there any effort on the part of your team to secure this money through another country, saudi arabia or russia as joy bay horse seems to think well, there's rules and regulations that are public. i can't speak about strategy >> when that had been like a yes or no answer. i didn't actually hear her say no as opposed to strategy. >> of course, the >> former president united states would never try to get the money for his new york fraud. you haven't from country his leg russia or saudi arabia, right? those would be the kinds of phrases you would expect to hear. yet, i didn't hear that denial. >> did you >> well now i want to bring in chase peterson with oren, a senior editor at forbes chase. thank you for joining so good to see you. i mean every time i say this number, $464 million as a bond you'd look at that he has until monday to come up with that. >> it appears that attorney >> general james may be preparing to see some properties. one in particular, seven springs, a state in westchester. i wonder, is that a good property for her to target given that she's trying to come up with a total number in that 464 range >> yeah, it's a great question obviously, 464 million is a lot of money and seven springs is a largest state with some historic homes on it. it's a beautiful property we think it's worth about 30 million. so obviously, nowhere near 464 million. and so it seems like if letitia james is going to go after assets, she's probably going to go after more than just seven springs. and so trump has another course in westchester county that also might be seized. and of course, he has a tremendous amount of commercial and and retail real estate in new york city that you would have to think she has her ion if she's trying to get to 464, will chase this particular property, the seven springs estate what can you tell us about what this property this state and by they're working images of vitamins, it's unbelievable. looking at this, what does this a state mean to trump >> yeah, you >> it's a beautiful property and there is a personal trunk family can actually in donald trump bought the property and wanted to turn it into a golf course and wasn't able to get approval to do that. >> and the trump >> family spent summers weekends there and it's actually the place where eric trump supposedly proposed to lara trump. so there's definitely some sentimental attachment there, and trump is also pretty attached to all of his brothers how are you seeing? he definitely sees them as trophy properties that he's not somebody who's who's very interested in sort of partying with his trophies >> i was gonna say, i mean, this is somebody known for his real estate venture, isn't to have any part of it taken away. you combine that with ego and then of course a campaign. it's not what you want to happen. but if that property you mentioned the price. i mean, if i were to guess at this and i'm no good real estate tycoon at all to guess at what the property it looks like. but this is far short, far shy of that $464 million. so if that is so much lower, why why go through the trouble of making this filing in westchester county? is it because they should james i'm gonna be putting a kind of a portfolio of other properties together to seize >> yeah, it's a great question. my understanding is she wouldn't have to file this type of filing in new york county where manhattan is because that's where the judgment rash room >> and so >> so my understanding is basically she's going to this other county, westchester to put on notice that this judgment happened, and she might be seizing properties and this was several weeks ago that she did this. so it seems like she's sort of was laying the groundwork for the chance that trump can't or doesn't post bond. and she has to seize properties. so this is weeks ago that i think this has been in motion where she's seemed like giving herself you know, the potential to go after properties if if she deems it necessary chase pearson, whether on thank you so much for joining us. i want to bring in trial and compliance attorneys that berenzweig and former federal prosecutor and contributing editor for new york magazine on kush khardori. thank you both for being here. first of all, i mean, this number again, keeps going around in my head. this is astronomical figure. now he takes issue with the amount calling it possibly excessive fine. that's a discussion for an appellate court to grapple with. >> i don't >> know how he'll fair. >> but when it comes to seizing these assets, just walk us through if you can for a second, set >> james. so she would not necessarily be able to seize properties. a. he is not the sole owner of right. she'd been line as a credit sure she would be a line as a creditor, but keep in mind that all of the defendants in the case, the organization, and the entire family, are jointly and severally >> liable for the debts in the case. so it's his company, it's his kids. it's him. and this filing is basically a warning siren to the trump family that this is a red alert. this means that when you docket a judgment in the county courthouse in the records of that county within new york. that means that his assets are in parallel and there's no way out by the way, that is a falling not only with respect to real estate, but it creates a judgment lien against all real ten personal so what does that include? operating accounts, bank accounts, everything and she can execute on that next week. and if she chokes that money dry, that means that it'll probably violate a whole bunch of loan covenants. it's going to be a hot mess and it's just days away. i >> mean, you could garnish wages ultimately write one point and just i'm thinking about if he were to secure the white house again the idea that you could possibly garnish ones presidential salary, obviously far short of this notion year, but there is that process. let me ask you on cush, because bankruptcy might be in people's minds, they might think there's a look i will hold on. if he can't pay the judgment by monday there's a process for her to begin seizing assets is not going to be like you got to put it on the market right now. i got to get money next week. >> could bankruptcy help him avoid any of this? it's not able to be so, right? >> no. >> so he will not be able to discharge as the word that none legal term of art this debt in a bankruptcy proceeding, it's a court judgment and also happens to concern intentional misconduct on the part of mr. trump. >> so neither those are the categories you can she ever bankruptcy apply, right. >> and so the best that he could accomplish is to sort of drag the process out by filing for bankruptcy, but it would not prevent the state from getting their money the other problem is, i'm not sure he's insolvent that's of unclearly two. so i don't think you can just pop on over and file for bankruptcy claims to have all this money, all these assets, he can sell some of them. you can mortgage them, he can try to do something with the shares that he's he's got that are going to come to him through the truth, social as pac merger he has options here. i think there was a little bit of posturing going on this week, which with his claim that it's a practical impossibility to get the bond. he has options. he just doesn't want to pursue them. >> and by the way, she would know at this point, the attorney general in new york where what properties he owns, right? this is idm. the judgment comes down from this judge, but there is a kind of forensic accounting has already taken place. right? that's right. it's all a matter of public record and one of the other things that's unique about this case as far as the operating company goes, is that judge that the judge in the new york case has applied a special receiver that has control over all of the operations in the assets of the corporation. so in fact, that was an order that was brought in within the last 20 before ours, where the judge told the corporate receiver that she has all the power she needs to monitor the cash, monitor the accounts, and he invited her to reapply back if she feels that she needs more powers, what that means is that when there is a garnishment of a bank account for example, what typically happens in a situation like this is that the ceo says that's fine. we'll just sweep the account and then we'll send it over to bank of america. he can't do that. he can't move them money. he stuck he can file for bankruptcy. he's really in a tight place right now. >> well, i mean, you just look at this and the response that he has had consistently. i'm cautious band this is all political, right? this is somebody who campaigned on trying to bring me down. i was heard target in the campaign politically. obviously, she would not dispute that she has campaigned on prosecuting donald trump in an appellate process, though as he starts to work on this appeal about this judgment, is that ever going to factor in the argument that it's like political i don't expect to have much traction within the courts in new york. i do think that there is a that argument underlies a problem with the judgment, i think is going to potentially be vulnerable on appeal, which is that the numbers are very large it's very large, particularly for a fact pattern like this one in new york courts under this type of law. so i don't expect the courts to say, oh, this was political. we're going to throw it out. i do expect them to be a little careful with these facts and looking closely at the judgment and the underlying law. >> well, they'll have to look at the proportionality of this right? and who is before at this actual court says uncouth, please take a ground in just a moment >> now, >> with all the questions donald trump's 464 million bond, the former president is still facing 88 criminal charges across four separate indictments. and defending against those charges. well, it costs big bucks to pay those legal bills. trump has been tapping into money from his save america pac cnn's tom foreman has a closer look. tom, laura his fans may not mind that he is spending this money that way, but it does add up. look at the amount spent on trump's legal bill there's a february filing for that. save america pac 5.6 million. they've only got four million on hand here. and importantly, the money that's coming in is not going as well as they would like to take a look at the february fundraising totals from the federal election commission here's biden over here. 21 million trump, 10.9 million advantage to biden right there. national party raised by the dnc versus the rnc. dnc 16.6 million rnc 10.7 million advantage to the dnc. now, compare that to cash on hand. the money they all pretty have to work with. again, february cash on hand for the campaign, biden 71 million advantage over trump with just 33.5 million. the national party 26.5 million versus 11.3 million more than twice as much advantage to the democrats again. so in the money race biden than the democrats right now are hammering trump just when he's hemorrhaging money into his legal defense, laura. >> so how does that compared to the past? >> well, back in 2020, it was a real money run back then, but look at the last time you got an incumbent democrat running back in 2012, barack obama was turning at that point, the dnc had 21.2 million. the rnc, 26.7. they were doing much much better back then. and then look at this where we are now dnc 26.5 million. they are trending up and the rnc trending weighed down with less than half as much cash this does not mean that this will decide the race. laura, many things can change between now and then, but we've made a lot about the poll. we've made a lot about all sorts of metrics this is the money metric and it matters. and right now, it is squarely wind behind joe biden sales, not donald trump's >> so interesting. tom, form. and thank you so much and i want to bring in congressmen sean cast, and he's a democrat representing illinois, who sits on the house financial services committee. and he says trump's mounting legal judgments are a serious national security threat. congressman caston, thank you so much for joining me this evening. these numbers that we're hearing a bad and of course is deadline to pay by monday and we are 200 and what, 29 days away from an presidential election, he is the presumptive republican nominee and a former president here hey, listen for a second to what trump's lawyer has had to say when asked about whether they were looking for foreign money to help with this judgment, listen is there any effort on the part of your team to secure this money through another country, saudi arabia or russia, as >> joy bay horse seems to think well there's rules and regulations that are public. i can't speak about strategy that require certain things and we have to follow those rules. like i said, this is me manifest injustice. it is impossible. it's an impossibility. i believe they knew that even she cocked her head for a second because she'd probably didn't hear a yes or no when you hear that, there is not an outright denial that concerns you >> i mean, i wish i could say i was surprised when the first time we impeach trump the only present you can say that from we were having a debate about what would be the charges of the impeachment. and there were a lot of members saying, look, these emollients violations, the fact that he is so getting money from foreigners is a problem that's a constitutional violation that was an impeachable offense. we decided to not put that in the articles. that was about $8 this is about $464 million like to put that in context, if i walked out of the studio tonight as a member of congress and a stranger walked up to me and said, i'd like to buy you $126 dinner i would have to report that to ethics, $26 because we rightly say that it's there's too many modes of influence and we need to report this trump as a candidate is not bound by those rules. so when he's now going out and saying, i don't have $464 million. i need 4.60 were millions. we know that he just posted a bond for $91 million and we don't know what the security was on that bond. >> whoever's in carroll cases exactly so wherever your politics are, if you just want to know that the person you are going to vote for has not been purchased by a foreign adversary. you want to know what those liabilities are, whether i'm not, i'm not saying i have any evidence that there has been foreign interference, but this is a massive liability. that the american people have a right to know about what he have to disclose this as a candidate, or it would be up to him as if he were to reclaim the white house at that point he would need to do so. >> so the rules, as i understand them are frankly far too weak. as candidates you make disclosures on periodic basis and you notify what those are as a elected official, you have more frequent disclosure requirements, but now quite frankly, if the house judiciary was staffed by people who cared about our democracy, they would be filing subpoenas right now. but that's not the moment we're in well, not to leave. i don't want to ms the far >> to the trees because your larger point i think is extremely important and that the american people want to know who do you owe, right? who do you. oh, and this is somebody >> who in the past has not been forthcoming to say the least about say, his tax records and beyond and has fought this tooth and nail. and i remember when i was federal prosecutor, i mean, you could lose your security clearance you had debt. if you had credit card, if you had shoe shopping habits, there were questions raised. this would be an enormous amount and he could still have the highest level of security as it should mean, if you're applying for a junior job at the fbi take a bunch of zeros off this and you can never forget that job, right? >> right >> and the american people should know, but now put yourself in the shoes of a vladimir putin put yourself in the shoes of any foreign leader who we know is that as an adversary of the united states that's and say, i would like to buy a united states president. and what is the price >> you know the answer to that, right? it's $464 million plus interest maybe you're a tech billionaire who would like to get a defense contract with the launch satellites into space foreign 64 million how do we make sure that that doesn't happen >> is there an answer? but how do you make sure? >> i think a lot of this is going to depend on civil society. i would wish that donald trump would come out and say, look transparency the sunlight's the best disinfectant. let's just goes, i don't think that's going to happen, but i think we have to rely on civil society. i'm grateful that you're raising this issue. we need to have journalist raise in this question. we need have voters raised in this question? we need to have the congress raising these questions and simply say, look if there's if it's smoking no fire, then let's get to the bottom of that. but somebody who owes 500 and $54 million and counting to somebody and we don't know who that is is a real problem for the united states of america. >> even you look even beyond what he may owe ultimately there's talk of him bringing back paul manafort into the fold and you of course remember that this is somebody who was pardoned by trump after being found guilty of financial crimes, illegal foreign lobbying. you think that poses an additional eyebrow raising moment? about security. >> i mean, i wish i could say that paul manafort is the only problematic person. trump's orbit who's coming back. i mean, i mean, look at all of most of his defense and most of these crimes is well, you can't trust that person because they were convicted. you can't trust lev parnas because he was convicted. you can't it was. paul manafort. he was convicted and he was pardoned right? these are unfortunately the people in trump's orbit, which is part of why this issue is so heightened because the american people don't really have a reason to believe that this is a person who prior to this point, lead a squeaky clean ethical life you know, you're right to ask these questions and to raise them and to wonder if there is no concrete and firm disclosure rules. now what would protect the disclosure of transparency down the line, i think people have right to know. that's not from insurance companies. where are you getting the money from and let the voters judge that for themselves? the disclosure at the very least, ought to be mandated. and you think >> yes. >> and with enough enforcement teeth to back it up, i mean, we don't tragically we don't we don't fund white-collar police in this country very well so the fec should be going after this. they should have the jurisdiction. they should have the authority to go after this but we also just have gaps in the rules. we trump is such an unusual creature. we haven't had issues like this in america before, where you had to worry about these sorts of questions. yeah, but now we do well, i would venture to say whether he is we don't have the white collar police force is because the white-collar is don't want there to be. so maybe we equalize. i see you have a blue colorado. i'm going i see it literally a blue car congressman, shine caston thank you so much. and of course, minds a swirl. >> listen, >> i don't know what you are planning to do this summer but fani willis wants to put donald trump on trial in georgia, even after those that trial 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course, the co-defendants. in this georgia election subversion and interference case, as soon as this summer. now, this comes as the embattled willis spent the last two months defending her credibility against an attack or disqualify her last week, the judge overseeing the trial issued a blistering rebuke of willis and you remember and her lead prosecutor, nathan wade's personal relationship forcing one of them to resign from the case, which resulted then in nathan wade's resignation just last week back with me now, seth berenzweig and ankush, khardori, i'm so glad you guys are bad because this idea of a summer trial date that when she first came on the scene into announced this indictment, she first said, i want to have this trial in six months now, many people began to snicker and laugh thinking there's no way that a co-defendant case of this magnitude would go that quickly, let alone one that involves the former president of the united states. >> of >> course, isn't realistic to think that this could happen this summer, by the way, it will be april like in two weeks. >> yeah. i don't think it's realistic. i don't think that there was a very good chance as case was even going to go to trial this year, even after was filed. and this is a 19 defendant case complex issues, novel issues in some respects involving a former president was all always going to be very ambitious notion have this case try this year. now >> the >> other problem she now has is this disqualification issue, which was just resolved against her is up on appeal. right. is going to be appealed. and i do not see why the judge would want to schedule a trial that may be the invalidated if he's overruled on the disqualification issue. right. so i don't see why a judge would even contemplate having a trial unless and until that appeal is resolved. so he knows that the prosecutor on the case is actually the prosecutor on the case. >> but you know, there's a role where you could say, i'm going to keep planning in i've made a finding, i believe that she should not be disqualified. so i'm going to proceed as appropriate. she does have a history of having these large co-defendant cases, whether it's a teacher's cheating scandal or the ysl case. and in georgia, which by the way, i think is still ongoing when we think about these cases but these last two months, you have to wonder what impact that's had on preparations that because of course, her lead prosecutor is now not there. that means somebody else has to step into that role and get up to speed. >> well, i agree will have an impact and certainly they've had a little bit disruption in the office lately. however, i'm a little bit more optimistic from a speed point of view under the local rules now that judge mcafee has given this permission slip for mr. trump and the defendants to apply for permission to ask the court of appeals to accept the case under those rules. that documentation is due within ten days of when he entered that order, which is basically in about a week or so, then the court of appeals has up to 45 days to make its decision. now, of course, if they go in and they end up being a traffic cop and say stop the presses. we need to take a look at this, then i completely agree there's no question at all that this case is getting tried this year. if they reject the appeal, although it's tough, i still think that there's a slim chance that it could get tried in the early fall. that is something that might be a tough squeeze, but everything's going to move pretty quickly within the next few weeks and we'll know for sure whether or not the court of appeals accepts this and whether they're going to put a stay on the case. >> you know, what's looming pretty largely over this entire thing. i mean, she is an elected official right? she's got a primary in may. she has a challenger. there's obviously the general election in november and so in a very weird way on kush, the two of them talking about trump at the very least, and fani willis, they've got something in common, not just this indictment, but the fact that they are elect they're hoping to be and remain in office again >> does that >> influence you >> think the way and the timing of how this case is pursued. because if she doesn't win reelection for whatever reason then that could be a new team that comes in. >> from her perspective, that could be something she's concerned about. again. i. just remain a bit skeptical that that would be the sort of paramount interest on her mind. i mean, i think that she is clearly very attentive to the coverage around her and the perspectives of the media people in her community. that's been very important to her over the last couple of months. understandably. and i imagine part of her decision today or the reporting at cnn has today is about her trying to turn the page on all of this, right. and try to move forward even if she doesn't get her trial date. just to say, look, that happened. now let's move into a new phase of this case where we can get back to the facts and the law on the evidence. >> i just say enough. the judge in his ruling keeping her on the case, talked about how he did not believe that they were involved in this relationship, are using this indictment as a pretextual reason to continue it because you said because she has proceeded with all due speed in this case, not wind to sever wind to have a quick trial date. and so it's a bit of a catch-22. if she now we're to slow this all down. that coach. thank you. both so much. up next and end to a dramatic manhattan, idaho after the escape of an inmate with ties to white supremacists. you've got to report from the ground and an nba head coach calls out angry gamblers for sending him crazy messages about his family erin burnett. >> outfront tomorrow seven. cnn for nearly a decade, i served in the navy supporting seal teams today, i run sabo outdoors with fellow special operations veterans. are mobile app connects 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thank you so much for being here. i mean, how did police finally track them down? >> hey, laura, look, they quickly put out the photos of these two suspects and you mentioned needs tattoos. they were very easily identifiable. it was a one on one side of his face and 11 on the other. that's true for a k, which is aryan knights, which is that white supremacist prison gang. and authorities also putting out the photos their escape vehicle very quickly after this incident happened, they say this was a joint law enforcement efforts. many agencies coming together in the state to eventually make this arrest authorities believehat these two first went north and when they were up north in just a rural part of idaho, they built leave that to people were killed and they believe that they are possibly connected to these two suspects. and when authorities say that they'd then possibly went south east, they were spotted in twin falls idaho. that's about 130 miles south of where i am right now. and they say they were spotted. there was a quick chase, but here's the thing, authority, saying not a single shot was fired when they were arrested, no one was injured. they were taken into custody and authorities an hour or so after they arrested, then just letting us know about this operations. so of course they were just grateful to have this finished. and in a very craig way, lauren how how did the police link the suspects? so those homicides >> yeah. so i specifically asked the state police how these two were linked and they said that as they were investigating and looking into the scenes of the murders, they found the shackles that one of the scenes. and so what they're also saying is that they're looking into the links between not just the homicides and these two suspects, but also specifically the links between the two suspects here is what the director of the department of correction here in idaho had to say in addition to having both having membership with the aryan knights they also shared some acquaintances, some common acquaintances, both in custody as well as in the community >> now, he also added that these two were housed together when they were in prison at the same time and the director saying, make no mistake, this was not an accident. this was planned and now other just trying to figure out exactly how they planned all of this. laura >> my goodness, camila bernal. thank you so much tonight, we're getting new details about the tragic death of senator mitch mcconnell's sister-in-law, shipping tycoon, angela chao a police report showing chao's blood alcohol was about three times the legal limit when she mistakenly drove her tesla into a lake at a texas ranch and describes how she desperately called her friends for help as water was pouring into the car mitch mcconnell's cited her death last month when he announced his plan to step down as gop leader, cnn's gabe cohen joins me now, gave this is so unbelievable, so try to think about me. this report goes into frightening details about this accident and also about how she was trying to escape. she was conscious. she knew it was happening. >> what happened? >> yes. so this report really lays out a really frantic and really tragic situation. i mean, angela chao had brought together a group of old friends for this weekend. they went to a pitbull concert that night, the night before, and they were just eating and drinking, having a good time at her family amylase texts, texas ranch that night. and as they were heading to bed, that's when she got into her tesla suv. an accidentally backed over a wall and down into a pond on the property she very quickly, according to this report, got out her phone. she called the friend who was nearby asking for help saying that water was starting to come into the car and the report lays out what happens next. it says, during the coal, her friend told shout to exit the vehicle, and chao told her she couldn't. she described the water coming into the vehicle chao than set her goodbyes to her friend i'm laura. she told her she loved her. they were on the phone for eight minutes as her friends were desperately trying to save her. one of them took a kayak and paddled out to the car. another swam out, got on top and they just couldn't break the glass. they couldn't reach her and eventually it was first responders who got to her. but at that point, it had been more than 20 minutes angela chao was unresponsive. >> this is heart-breaking. it is so >> true. i mean, a lot of people, this is their worst fear going over being submerged in water, wondering how they're going to get out of the vehicle. but do you do in these scenarios and it's just the fact that she was eight minutes able to know what's happening and thinking about that she was going to die and our friends hearing about this. i mean, she comes from a very powerful family. while we mentioned senator mitch mcconnell even referenced her just last month in his speech about leaving how has this impacted the broader fan? emily, >> was you can imagine there are heartbroken spokesperson for the child family actually sent me a statement from her father that i can read. it says angeles passing was a terrible tragedy and words cannot describe the families profound grief the family is grateful for the first responders and for the friends who tried so hard to save her and clearly it's also impacted mitch mcconnell, who as you mentioned, noted angeles passing when he made that announcement that he was stepping down from his leadership role just last month. i don't know if we have that clip of what he said >> you lose a loved one particularly at a young age there's a certain introspection that accompanies the grieving process perhaps it is god's way of reminding you of your own life's journey to reprioritize the impact of the world that we will all evidently leave behind >> so you can hear the emotion they're laura, it's hard to say how it factored into his decision, but clearly, 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explosion of ads for bedding companies and it's true betting on games has blown up ever since a 2018 supreme court ruling that struck down a federal ban on commercial sports betting in most states. now, some high profile people are saying things have gotten out of hand. people like cleveland cavaliers, head coach jb bicker, staff i personally have had my own instances with some of the sport's gamblers where they got my telephone number and >> we're sending me you know, crazy messages about where i live and my kids and all that stuff. there's no doubt about it. that it's crossed the line. the amount of times where i'm standing up there and we may have a ten point lead and the spread is 11 and people are yelling at me to leave the guys in so that we can cover the spread like it's ridiculous. >> wow >> i mean, just to show you some numbers betting on america's biggest game, the super bowl. >> it has >> exploded >> over the years. you know, in 2021, 23 million adults wagered about 4 billion this year. that figure a balloon to 68 million adults wagering 23 billion these are unbelievable figures to me, joining me now, dave, ss iran sports editor at phonation and author of the book, the kaepernick effect dave, i'm so glad that you are here. first of all i mean, i feel old when i'm like this. >> this is legal. you can you can kind of do this because >> i remember a time not too long ago when it was the towel, you may have gone to a horse racing place. there's a smoke-filled room and there are people gambling in a corner. and that was taboo. now, it's every play, every quarter, everything that's happening. >> do you think it's got out of hand? >> oh, yes. gambling has swallowed the sports world hole and somewhere pete rose is saying, hey, i'm banned from major league baseball why? >> because it is infected and i use that word very deliberately. it's infected every part of the sports world. it's not just fans at home bedding. i mean, it's also media members, people we trust in the sport where it's media who are now talking about parlays in-between quarters of nba games. they're now part of selling gambling to a population that i think is utterly unprepared for being subsumed in this kind of culture. we're talking about addiction. we're talking about issues in terms of tearing apart families. we're talking about bankruptcy these are all things that happen because of gambling. people think it's all funding games, but there are these negative effects. and yes, there is that disclaimer at the end of all the gambling adds dial 1800 gambler, but that's not good enough because but they're making so much money right now that we're in a whole new world, but it's not just commentators, it's not just people who are on your twitter or x feed and beyond used to have bragging rights. i admit that now it's much more intense and you've got a whole lot of celebrities from different walks of life who are also a part of the ads and look at this defy the odds >> and straight because every bet, bet mgm as a potential for greatness >> i got it through the king of destiny again. but this time, fans can pick if i make or ms 10 million interested in right now now, new customers, but $5 and get 150 in bonus beds >> grandkids >> now, gnosis bone all but everyone gets a free back >> man that's been i mean, you've got wayne gretzky gronkowski grant, you know, kevin hart you've seen jamie foxx, two different ads, i think as well in different areas. i mean, there's so many different people that's the point of advertising though, right? to say to you, it's not just drink this soda, it's due this very thing. it's hard to resist for the average family says, oh, it's okay now and look everyone ones doing it well, especially when it's right in your pocket >> we all have >> phones and gambling is just a thumbprint away and i can tell you having a son in high school, it's in the high schools to its under aged people. it's the one kid who gets the account and then all the other kids are betting through, then we're creating a generation of amateur bookies. >> through all of this. and if no one is going to stand up and say this has to stop, then there's going to be a reckoning. that reckoning is going to take place when you heard jb bicker staff, the coach of the calves, when somebody gets hurt because people are betting so much money are in such desperate straits, are there so angry at a player coach because they're not getting that seven rebound and that have an eighth rebound. allow the responsibility. so i'm right here this okay. now, i understand that, but there are people who are responsibly betting, who are not doing this. we're not engaging in the way you're talking about who aren't going to go to the games and starts screaming to meet the staff. they just have some friendly wagers. now there are waging pool and there group of friends is just bigger because it's online. >> do >> you what do you say the response it says, okay, this the responsibilities not with the league's is with the individual people who are participating and who can regulate them >> yeah. i mean look, when gambling was just at the casino you could say to yourself, i'm not going to go to the casino. you could have that personal responsibility. but if it's right in your pocket and if you have big name celebrities telling you, yes, this is the thing to do. this is the thing to do. i mean, you said the statistics about how many people are betting on the super bowl now compared to just a few years ago? this audience has been created. >> this >> profit center has been created for gambling in the last several years since that supreme court ruling that we have to realize it's a bold new world. you mentioned that 2018 ruling the nba submitted an amicus brief to the supreme court saying that they supported it in theory, it was very simple and antisepsis dick now, just a few years later, you go to the nba league pass app. this was announced this week. now 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