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the district attorney finally, funny walls. stay on the case. willis is prosecuting the group for alleged efforts to overturn georgia's 2020 election results. defendants argued that she should be disqualified because of her romantic relationship with a prosecutor who has since resigned from the case. let's start with cnn. zach cohen. zach trump's legal team pushed for this ability bloody to appeal the decision. so what happens now >> you jake is now up to the georgia court of appeals. they're gonna decide whether or not they want to take up this review of judge mcafee decision to allow fani willis to keep prosecuting this case in georgia and look, they're not 45 days to make that decision once trump's legal team formerly submits their petition asking for an appeal, and then ultimately they're going to say whether or not they want to overturn judge mcafee decision if they do indeed take up that case, that'd be a pretty stunning reversal given mcafee is order that was really a forceful rebuke of willis and nathan wade, her top prosecutor. she was allegedly engaged in an improper romantic relationship with but look, mcafee is definitely allowing this run its course, allowing the appeals court to make its decision as to whether or not his ruling does match up with their interpretation of the law. but look, really important part of maccabees ruling today actually came in the very last sentence where he made queer that he was not going to pause this case in georgia while that appeals process plays out on the disqualification issue, he said that they're gonna continue to work through this stack of motions a stack of other issues that they're trying to work for in a pretrial phase. while that appeals process playing out. so on the one hand, fani willis, we'll still have this cloud of a potential disqualification hanging over her for at least 45 more days. but on the other hand, judge mcafee indicated he would wants to move forward and keep moving forward despite the past two months of just talking about fani willis ramadi, jake, we don't have a trial date set in the georgia case yet. fani willis has asked for a trial, just start in august. there's a bunch of potential factors that could prevent that or challenge that, but we're waiting to see how that plays out. but mcafee indicating today he wants things to move forward and maybe move beyond the disqualification issue, at least in his courtroom. >> all right. is that cohen thanks so much. appreciate it. my panel join is now, kristen holmes, let me start with you. so this georgia court of appeals we'll now have an opportunity to review judge mcafee is decision and decide whether or not to just allow it to stand or to hear arguments or to overturn it does this match up with trump's general legal strategy of delay, delay, delay? i mean, >> yes and no because you have this part of the ruling that says that they're still gonna go through all the motions. it's not that everything is going to be on pause there. so moving forward, but there is no trial date, as you heard, zach say, and part of this is another turn of the wheel for them to hope that it interferes with setting a trial date. and that's really where they're at. they want everything to be late and i will say there's still feeling really good about what happened in georgia despite the fact that fani willis is staying on the case, they feel like they have a when they're and they don't think that case is going to go to trial before november, which of course, as we know, has been their goal all along. the other thing to point out about this is that when you're talking to these senior advisers and going through the process with them, they like the fact that there might be another opportunity to go after fani willis and public even if it's not televised. another time to bring her record forward. >> so just to be clear here, so there's the georgia election subversion case, the federal election subversion case, the federal classified documents case, and then also the hush money payment, the alvin bragg, new york case. that's four cases. do we have a date for any of them? no. >> not one. >> no. they had said that they were going to possibly do april at one point for the documents case, then that got moved. she is also waiting to see what happens in the election subversion case. they are now waiting on the supreme court ruling on immunity. so they have paused all of that as we know, they last week extended the deadline for the new york hush money in case for another remarkable 30 days that least 30 it's it's it's madness and it's not just delay is not his only strategy. it's to continue to push this narrative, jake, and he's going to do it all year during the campaign that he's a victim and all of this justice system is coming after him. so as long as he can demonize these prosecutors, he just feeds into that. >> but i mean, are you it's kinda it's kinda bewildering right? i mean, first of all, okay. so the hush money case, one of the arguments in that case, whatever people think of it is that the american people had a right to know about this affair that donald trump had with stormy daniel's, which he denies, but i don't think anyone in the world believes him. before the election, before they voted. now you can argue like, look, the access hollywood tape it drop. nobody thought that they were electing mitt romney here, but still, the american people had a right to know we appear to be heading towards a legal arena where the american people are not going to have knowledge of at least two or three of these cases in terms of testimony. if not all four. >> and that's a really important point, jake, because we don't know what impact that's actually going to have on the electorate because we have seen him pulling people saying they want to know the outcome of these cases before the election. so what does it mean to voters, particularly those who are very concerned about what happened on january 6, who actually moved away from trump because of that to say to them. okay, he's on the ballot again, but this time, you don't get to know what actually happened. i don't think we know yet if that's going to i think the trump team assumes that's in their favor, but i'm not sure that it is because again, if you have a question about someone that you might vote for, for president, yeah, it may make you less likely to vote for her here with two options. sorry, here, the options are you don't know or potentially somebody is convicted of a crime. so if that's the option, wouldn't you rather if you're the trump de and go with i don't really point is that's where they're headed here. it's like, okay, are other option is we know people aren't going to vote for everybody >> understands the trump strategy. it's just kind of stunning just as an american citizen, to watch the legal system. but the trump people are. there is one case that did not go their way, and that is the case from letitia james donald trump is reportedly in panic mode as the deadline approaches to secure this almost half billion-dollar bond for the civil fraud case in new york, so that he can appeal it if he fails to secure the bond. and apparently no insurance company is willing to engage in it. for whatever reason, they could put his new york properties at least some of them on the chopping block. but check out this fundraising tax from the trump campaign. >> today. it says quote from trump. keep your filthy hands off. trump tower, and then provides a fundraising link that they called an emergency memo >> he's he's the victim in jake, what's fascinating is this. it could actually be one example where he will begin to be held accountable, like he's gonna have to put up this money he's known about this for awhile. i ultimately think some he's the republican nominee, some wealthy republican is going to do something for them. >> they haven't yet, they haven't yet. >> but i haven't yet, but diaries i think somebody was i don't know if there'll be one person. i mean, it's a lot of money and even billionaires i was talking to one of our financial experts today, even billionaires, there's tears of billionaires and apparently, yeah, low-level tiers at high tiers, we will get hi to your dr. very small population of people who would have to step forward and they'd like we have to pool some resources to guarantee this bond but if your options are again, your republican nominee going through all this, having to declare bankruptcy, not being able to pay having his assets seized and being humiliated, or securing this and guaranteeing the bond. so that you have a republican nominee who eventually hopefully will do things for you in the future. >> yeah. so my only in an >> interview with gb news that aired last night, donald trump hinted that if he is reelected, prince harry could be deported from the united states in his memoir, spare, harry admitted to using various drugs, which has raised the question as to whether he lied about that when he obtaining his american visa application? here's what trump had to say >> no, something about the drugs. and if he lied, i'll have to take appropriate action, >> appropriate action. >> yeah. >> which might mean mostly i don't know. >> you'll have to tell me. you just have to tell me. you would you would have thought they would have known this a long time ago >> yeah. okay. go ahead. go ahead. please do please try please try to kick carry out of the country. i think that's going to go over really. well. i mean, this is so ridiculous and the same have you he talked about how admiring he is of the royal family and the idea of the royal family, which prints error is not really a member in good standing of the royal family. no, no. i was actually moving on to say and i'm sure in trump's mind, there's a whole justification for that. but no, it's moving on to say, he also so was pointing out how much he likes the concept of royal family, which reminds us that he would like to be, he considers himself the ceo when he is president, not someone who is accountable to his voters, but i suppose maybe he thinks kicking harry out with the bears >> you lead this segment two of his indictment it's trump's indictments involves his attempts to overthrow an american election and the american electorate is going to go to the ballot box in seven months not knowing about his involvement, whether he's going to be held accountable for his involvement, overthrowing in american election. >> the kristen, you still owe, you cover trump so you watch all his rallies, you attend rallies, you see january 6 is not just something that he defends. it is something he celebrates now, he starts rallies with the january 6 criminals in prison singing the national anthem that she recorded what's part of the song for that, right? which he was part of the and also i mean, he calls them hostages at a time, by the way, that there are actual hostages, including american hostages, being kept being held in gaza and in russia, et cetera. he calls these criminals who are in prison were being punished just after being adjudicated hostages. >> yeah. >> i think that he clearly made a decision here. i mean, after january 6, he tried to separate himself from the event, saying it wasn't now he's fully embraced it, saying that they were just patriots sees is that word he is the promise that he will part in them as soon as he is brought back into the white house and you see other republicans kind of getting on board. i mean, they're maybe not celebrating as much, but they're not rebuking him for what he is saying about january 6. >> this >> has become part of his campaign, and i will say a lot of his base is base supporters. they were the ones that were there. they have family that we're the ones that were there on january 6 and he has decided not to alienate them and keep them in the fold by doing this, can i just say? >> having lived through this in 2016, all of these things that we're pointing out, they matter to us absolutely. to his base. they don't to his base. they reinforce why they support him, why? because they also see the grievance narrative is that relates to them. and i think what's important as we go through this year, as we have conversations with voters, we have to bring it back to why does this matter to you in your life? because i think there's the other phenomenon here is it's so much, it's such an overload that people, some of it is just kind of bouncing off because people can absorb all of it so again, it's important that we talk about it because i think it's important surface it. >> but >> the day to day, most people just can absorb most of his base believes by now that january 6 was a pretty good day. and that's why trump does what he does so just a few hours ago, he posted on truth social his social media website, mark milley is a loser who shamed us in afghanistan and elsewhere. know mark >> milley, we should note, is a retired four-star general general trump appointed him chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. trump has an ongoing feud with milli, but this is timing given the millie just testified before congress about the afghanistan withdrawal and the testimony we actually didn't reflect well on the biden administration's handling of the withdrawal from afghanistan, but he's just triggered by the presence of millie and we should note meli. meli gets death threats, millie, like a lot of former trump official joel's who have broken with the precedent has to be protected by security because of that kind of invective in stochastic terrorism, the idea who will rid me of this meddlesome priest and he criticized as these people and they get death threats from his supporters. >> he bad-mouth the military, jake, he bad mouth's law enforcement at every one of his rallies, he rips the capitol hill police, who were there on january 6 this is what he does and it plays with his base. >> all right. guys are not a concern among i guess he has this new campaign team who ran, by the way, vary in terms of the technical parts of it. you know, making sure that california's delegates were winner-take-all and all that stuff. they did a really good job. but they've just made this team they're just, they're not even going to try to convince him to appeal to swing voters in the suburbs of a lock. i'm going to >> try to appeal, like get him to appeal. they know what they need, but they also know who their candidate is. and so what they're going to do is build out a strategy that is going to be a sure thing or try to be a sure thing despite what he says now, they're giving him data that's how they operate. that's what is one of the skill set of this team that shows him what? in each area people care about, whether it's immigration or abortion. and he is going to tailor his message and he is likely too because he sees, oh, they care about this. it doesn't mean he's going to stop talking about deporting migrants or change how he speaks or the language that he uses. but they are trying to show him who exactly it is that that he's talking to. now, whether or not he listens, they concede that that's really ultimately going to be up to him and it's not just up to him, it's up to the mood that he's in. it's not just the decision that he makes us who the last person in his ear, although i'll just add one thing it's not just the mood he's in. it's how the crowd respondents because he it's not just that he leads the base. he followed hello, is the base two? yeah. i think like an if they respond, he was afraid of cutting a deal on immigration because he was afraid they would turn on how they feed off each other if there >> why in 2016, right. when you talking about the older while he was getting so much of a reaction, you didn't like it at first. he thought morning, but the crowd luck. thanks. one and all thanks to our panel had an immature prank call or a sinister threat. the 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yeah. well, unfortunately, jake, this has been an increasingly common trend, four from members of congress, the united states capitol police says, last year they investigated more than 8,000 threats against members of congress, which is 500 more cases than the previous year. back in october, i reported how multiple republicans were receiving threatening phone calls and in some cases, even death threats for voting against jim jordan for speaker during that speakers race. >> and now you have >> tiktok launching this campaign urging users to call members of congress, which has led to an uptick in threats and a flood of phone calls. some in some cases, from people who don't even appear to know what a member of congress is. but i can tell you, jake that in speaking to a lot one of sources here on capitol hill that campaign from tiktok appears to have backfired. there were some lawmakers who were on the fence about this tiktok bill, who now say they've been pushed into the yes. camp. and senator tillis himself said this is a perfect example. this dangerous disinformation campaign is a perfect example of why congress needs to crack down on the app >> jake, where does the legislation stand right now, this legislation that would either force a sale of tiktok or bana yes. >> so it did already passed the house, so it's fate now rests in the senate. and earlier today's senators did receive a briefing and national security briefing on the potential national crt threat that tiktok poses. >> but >> some key senators are saying that they need to put their own stamp on the legislation that they need to hold hearings. so even though there's a sense of urgency, it could be months before senate actually x. and if that is the case, there is also a risk of momentum. momentum slipping and the entire bill stalling out. >> and also, melanie, you just caught up with colorado republican can congressman ken buck, who is retiring from congress. he he was going to serve out the rest of his term, but he's just saying he's leaving at the end of this week. some of his republican colleagues are not exactly giving him the kindest farewell. >> no, that's right. the house freedom caucus, which is an ultra conservative group kicked him out of the group. group last night. this according to ken buck, now, a source close to the groups that the reason is because of attendance issues that's something they're trying to crack down on. they said ken buck has not been attending meetings regularly and that's why they chose to boot him, but it's no doubt also have to do with the fact that ken buck has booked his party on a number of key issues, including impeachment. he's been openly critical of donald trump. he had called the certified that 2020 election, so he's often been at odds with the freedom caucus and now he is only days away from him resigning early from congress and move that some republicans believe was designed to hurt lauren bowlby, who's trying to run to replace them in the 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israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu would appear as republican leaders are doing the opposite. house speaker mike johnson is considering inviting it's in yahoo to address a joint session of congress. this is after some republicans floated the idea of this morning, a joint session invitation would need a buy-in from democrats, namely senate majority leader chuck schumer, who just last week quite controversially called for a new election in israel and said netanyahu, because government no longer fit the needs of israeli citizens joining us now, a former secretary during defense from the trump administration, mark esper market, the cia. so netanyahu called into a republican lunch today, listen to what republican senator thom tillis said before the lunch the baby will hear from us that we stand behind them. we stand behind the israeli people and we're not going to second guess it's, it's easy to be an armchair quarterback like we've got senator schumer was last week. it's hard to lead in the circumstances that mr. dan you're finds himself right now >> now, we said no, it's senate aides kept reporters away from even being in the hallways outside the meeting saying they were concerns they would overhear netanyahu's comments separately. trump's said on a podcast that democrats who vote, i'm sorry, that jews who vote for democrats hate religious, hate judaism, hate israel and should be ashamed of themselves. what's your take on the schumer speech? trump's comments and more, it's 2024. domestic politics creeping into foreign policy they or maybe running into foreign policy. and look, israel's in a very tough situation fighting arguably the fight of their lives right now in terms of trying to rid hamas out of gaza once and for all, they need our support, but they clearly need to do more when it comes to humanitarian aid. and i think the important thing is for them, us to play straight play it like we always do and don't allow domestic politics the best you can to work its way into this. really trying times. >> so biden president biden has asked netanyahu to send a team of top israeli officials to dc in hopes of getting netanyahu to not do this attack on rafah, this large-scale military operation on rafah netanyahu was agreed and he's going to send some israeli officials but it is clear that netanyahu seems quite intense on the invasion. he said a civilian evacuation plan for palestinians in rafah alpha will be approved. soon. >> what is your >> take on the military necessity of the idf going into rafah? i mean, i don't know what numbers were supposed to believe, but 30,000, even if it's a fraction of that, it's still way too many civilians have been killed innocent palate let's do indian civilians by the idf. well, there are two things. your check. first of all, the he needs to go into rafah. that's where they believe hamas's leadership is there. yeah, yeah sinwar is either there or khan yunis. they believe that there are six to eight times a remaining six to eight per of hamas militants there. and i think their view is if they're going to defeat hamas militarily, they have to take up the middle tents, take out the leadership that's remaining, and then go after the underground tunnels. now, that said, they also have a responsibility to do so in a way that that prevents unnecessary human loss, that allows humanitarian aid to come in at the same time. so you. have to do both. they're going to do both. but i think in order to get his victory, in order for israel to be successful, they have to go into rafah and clear out these militants >> the roe, the rules of engagement are different for different battles that i remember when mcchrystal took over in afghanistan and he changed the roe to make it tougher for americans to shoot afghans. he made, he added requirements because his fear me, crystals fear. was that the us at that point was creating more insurgents and they were killing them by killing innocent people. >> there >> are those who look at what israel is doing in gaza and say that they are not abiding by the roe, that even they used to hold. and like 2014, for example, that they are willing to take more risks to kill, more risks to civilians, to kill lower level hamas operatives. what do you think? >> well, clearly, you don't >> want to kill, create more terrorists while you're trying to kill terrorists. so that's number one. number two, is there outside experts who say that the ratio of civilians killed two militants killed has been lower than most other battles by other countries >> but look clearly when you're going to situation like this, you need to be more discriminant. you need to be careful in terms of how you employ military force because you don't want unnecessary civilian casualties, casualties, whether or not you create more terrorists or not. so it is incumbent upon the idf to take those measures and to enforce them even if it means greater risk for their own troops. >> before you go, i want to quickly switch topics, get your take on something retired general mark milley said about the completion date of the afghanistan withdrawal during the house foreign affairs committee hearing yesterday. take a listen. >> i'll be candid. i don't even know where who made the decision of the 11 september thing i frankly thought it was actually inappropriate at the moment in time, but it was very rapidly changed to the end of august right before you were let go by donald trump, you wrote a memo that warned against the rust withdrawal of us troops from afghanistan. it sounds as though million saying that the september 11 withdrawal completion date made no sense and it was picked for symbolic reasons, not logistical ones. what do you think? >> i think that's what he was saying? they would dishonor 911 and americans lost their lives at the twin towers and the pentagon and chang will be two to end the war on that note on that day, i think that's what he was saying. and of course, other things came out of that that hearing as well, but that's kinda my read on his testimony. was there anything that struck you, anything else >> well, look, i think there were a few things that struck me. first of all, that both the he in general, mckenzie said that they to include sector defense, austin had recommended to the president that 2,500 troops be remaining country. and of course we know president biden said later, george stephanopoulos on abc, that's not the case and he wasn't told that. i think secondly, the intelligent intelligence failures that maybe the intelligence community, or at least the state department thought that the gang government would hold on longer than expected, and then thirdly, as general mackenzie outline, state waited way too long to give the order to conduct the neo than non combatant evacuation operation. those the big three things that jumped out for me. all right. secretary mark esper. good to see you. thank you. >> the report cards are in in the 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privacy by downloading duckduckgo on all your devices today. visit coventry direct.com >> erin burnett, outfront tonight at seven odd cnn in? our, healthily. >> the cost of closing schools during the covid outbreak is coming into clearer focus in children are of course, the ones paying the price. there was a lot of fear and confusion in the early days of the pandemic, of course. but it became pretty clear pretty early that ending in-person learning for kids was creating a whole host of serious educational and psychological problems for children. this is how i press the then head of the cdc back in february 2021 what's the science? because you have said, there's not just you but dr. fauci, others have been saying for months that the schools should be open as long as there's masking and cleansing and social distancing everything that we talked about if a school is doing that, i understand if there's a mask violation that's a problem. but if a school is doing that i mean, the damage as i don't need to tell you on kids, the isolation, the psychological damage, the educational loss of a year for many kids, not to mention the thousands of kids who are just slipping through the cracks. i mean, it's it's hard to even calculate and there are a lot of people out there watching who think like, i thought the science said we should open the schools as long as that we take those safety steps. we're taking the safety steps and we're not opening the schools >> yeah. it's so there are numerous research studies that have demonstrated that if with universal masking & six feet of distancing and d densification of the class that's rooms that it's possible to get schools back safely with all of that happening, 92% of people in those studies were masked. we have other data that was just published in cdc he's mmwr that demonstrate that somewhere around 60% of students are reliably masking that has to be universal. so we have work to do, especially when the country remains in the red zone. hi community transmission as a transmission comes down. we'll be able to relax some of these measures. but the real point is to make sure that the science is consistent with our guidance, which is consistent to say until we can ensure that we have all those measures happening, that there would the schools would be safe >> now, three years out the data reveals a sharp decline in test scores. and this week, the new york times released and analysis and found students who spent more time in remote or hybrid learning saw larger declines falling behind more than half a year and math scores for students in grades three through eight. cnn's athena jones is here to help us better understand the cost of closing schools during covid athena hi jake old. >> we all remember march of 20, 2044 years ago this month when schools across the country began to shut down along with everything else to try to halt the spread of covid-19. this deadly virus that no one had ever seen before. but now new research is adding to a growing body of evidence that shows that remote learning during the pandemic was a key driver of academic declines. and these academic harms to children have been long and lasting and even schools that we opened relatively quickly, like by the fall of 2020, are still seeing lasting effects. here are some numbers to illustrate this for you. we know from the nation's report card a national assessment of educational progress that pandemic learning loss was significant. that's the number for 13-year-olds reading scores for 13 fell by four points in the 2022 to 2023 school year compared to the year before they pandemics are 20, 2020, when it comes to math scores, that decline was even bigger, nine points you see, for 13 we also found that reading and math scores for 13-year-olds fell at all levels, even high performers and low performers. but they were much larger. these declines for lower-performing students, che, while the losses were across the board. it's also clear from this analysis that household income was a factor it was researchers from stanford and harvard looked at this and they found that learning losses were larger in low-income communities and in minority districts. and in districts where they remain remote, remote, or hybrid for a longer part a longer period of the 2020, 2021 school year. >> they also pointed to >> several community characteristics. they said were related to learning loss. one of them, broadband access. we know that lack of access the internet was a big problem in some poor districts, but they said that none of these, these community characteristics explains the learning loss fully the bottom line here, as we saw from those numbers in 2022, 2023, with 13 year-olds learning loss is hard to overcome without a serious investment and test scores are showing that students have not caught up. and so now that there's so much data piling up, i'd say showing the consequences of school closures were really, really negative for children. this is certain to influence how schools and communities approach this sort of thing when there's another pandemic. >> yeah, and that's just educational. there's also the psychological damage the kids that turn to marijuana, the kids at turned to fentanyl, but kids that are now ism can click slip through the cracks so horrible, horrible series of decisions. athena jones thanks so much. coming up damning claims as child sexual abuse and nickelodeon, what a new docuseries alleges about the network that's next our mission here at cnn is that the news comes first that's the promise of the situation room. we work as hard as we can to get the facts the situation, with wolf blitzer >> next on cnn >> this is carbonic >> and so is this. and this is how you can sell it. >> your car >> visit carbonic, and your >> licensed later event answer a few questions and are powerful technology will give you a real offer in seconds. then set a time for us to pick it up and hey, you on the spot >> 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owned by cnn's parent company, uncovered other surprising information as they petitioned to unseal court documents from the case against pack. let's bring in cnn's elizabeth wagmeister. elizabeth, walk us through what this docu series brought to light yes this docu series did bring to light some very disturbing allegations of toxic behavior >> onset with former child stars. now, as you referenced, drake bell, who was a huge, huge star on nickelodeon. he was the star our of drake and josh. he has now revealed himself to be the anonymous accuser. he was a john doe during this case in 2004 that led to the arrest and conviction of brian peck, who was an actor and a dialogue voice coach. now, by the way, he was arrested it on a charge of lewd acts with a child and oral copulation. he served 16 months and he had to register as a sex offender. now aside from revealing that drake bell was the anonymous accuser, this docuseries also revealed that there were over 40 letters of support to the judge for brian peck coming from some famous former child stars, three stars from boy meets world recently said that they wrote letters and support. they now say that they regret that decision and they were also victims of brian peck manipulation. now, nickelodeon, we reached out to them. it's cnn. they have released a statement and here's part of what they said, jake. they say that our highest priorities are the well-being and best interests, not just of our employees, cast and crew, but of all children and we have adopted numerous safeguards over the years to help ensure we are living up to our own high standards in the exponent patients of our audience. now, they also say that they are dismayed and saddened to learn about the trauma that drake bell and dirt and that they support him for coming forward. >> so this docu series came out last week, and it's still being talked about on social media all over the place. why do you think it struck such a nerve? >> a lot of us grew up watching these shows, these allegations are coming from a time that was really the golden age of nickelodeon when these shows were getting millions of viewers every week. and this really exposes the dark seedy underbelly of this mysterious world of hollywood's certainly in a post-meeting too movement. now, these behaviors would never be accepted, and we are now shining a light on what is being uncovered. now the other reason jake, that this is getting more attention this week is dan schneider. he is a producer and a creator of about a dozen nickelodeon shows. he's been referred to as the norman lear of kids tv. he is credited with discovering ariana grand day and drake bell, kenan thompson. he just came out with an interesting video message let's take a look at what he said. >> let's talk about the massages. >> okay. >> watching the content yesterday, that was disturbing >> it was wrong. >> it was wrong that >> ever put anybody in that position? it was wrong thing to do. i'd never do it today. i'm embarrassed that i did it then there's definitely things that i would do differently one that i think would be really, really important is when you're hiring young actors, minors to work in television i would suggest that we have a licensed therapist. there to oversee that process for the specific reason of making sure that those kids really wanted to do this job >> now, that was dan shnaider there who as i said, was a prolific creator on nickelodeon. in fact, one of the most prolific creators of children's television shows. he is being interviewed there. if we can call it an an interview by one of his former actors from ms show that is not a journalist. we should point out and dan shnaider was actually dropped by nickelodeon in 2018 after working with them for two decades and creating huge hits like the amanda show and drake and josh zoe one-on-one. so when nickelodeon cut ties with him, jay, it was very mysterious, right? what happened there? he has denied any allegations since. and as we see in that video, he's denying them again. now, we have reached out to dan schneider. no word back yet. i've also reached out to representatives for drake bell to get his reaction on dan snyder's comment. i'll update you when we hear back. oh, yeah. please do elizabeth wagmeister. thanks so much. appreciate it. and if you or anyone you know, has been sexually assaulted, please call the national sexual assault hotline at 80656. hope. that's 80656 for or hope >> we'll be right back >> united states of scandal with jake tapper. sunday at nine on cnn, awkward >> question. is there going to be anything leftover? >> oh excellently >> my kids don't know what they want. you know, who knows what she wants >> with empowered. we get all of our financial questions answered. >> so you don't have to worry empower, >> what's next? did you know there's no t in skechers? >> what he told about me is always been scheduled t and these get to slippery get to slip bands romo 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the district attorney finally, funny walls. stay on the case. willis is prosecuting the group for alleged efforts to overturn georgia's 2020 election results. defendants argued that she should be disqualified because of her romantic relationship with a prosecutor who has since resigned from the case. let's start with cnn. zach cohen. zach trump's legal team pushed for this ability bloody to appeal the decision. so what happens now >> you jake is now up to the georgia court of appeals. they're gonna decide whether or not they want to take up this review of judge mcafee decision to allow fani willis to keep prosecuting this case in georgia and look, they're not 45 days to make that decision once trump's legal team formerly submits their petition asking for an appeal, and then ultimately they're going to say whether or not they want to overturn judge mcafee decision if they do indeed take up that case, that'd be a pretty stunning reversal given mcafee is order that was really a forceful rebuke of willis and nathan wade, her top prosecutor. she was allegedly engaged in an improper romantic relationship with but look, mcafee is definitely allowing this run its course, allowing the appeals court to make its decision as to whether or not his ruling does match up with their interpretation of the law. but look, really important part of maccabees ruling today actually came in the very last sentence where he made queer that he was not going to pause this case in georgia while that appeals process plays out on the disqualification issue, he said that they're gonna continue to work through this stack of motions a stack of other issues that they're trying to work for in a pretrial phase. while that appeals process playing out. so on the one hand, fani willis, we'll still have this cloud of a potential disqualification hanging over her for at least 45 more days. but on the other hand, judge mcafee indicated he would wants to move forward and keep moving forward despite the past two months of just talking about fani willis ramadi, jake, we don't have a trial date set in the georgia case yet. fani willis has asked for a trial, just start in august. there's a bunch of potential factors that could prevent that or challenge that, but we're waiting to see how that plays out. but mcafee indicating today he wants things to move forward and maybe move beyond the disqualification issue, at least in his courtroom. >> all right. is that cohen thanks so much. appreciate it. my panel join is now, kristen holmes, let me start with you. so this georgia court of appeals we'll now have an opportunity to review judge mcafee is decision and decide whether or not to just allow it to stand or to hear arguments or to overturn it does this match up with trump's general legal strategy of delay, delay, delay? i mean, >> yes and no because you have this part of the ruling that says that they're still gonna go through all the motions. it's not that everything is going to be on pause there. so moving forward, but there is no trial date, as you heard, zach say, and part of this is another turn of the wheel for them to hope that it interferes with setting a trial date. and that's really where they're at. they want everything to be late and i will say there's still feeling really good about what happened in georgia despite the fact that fani willis is staying on the case, they feel like they have a when they're and they don't think that case is going to go to trial before november, which of course, as we know, has been their goal all along. the other thing to point out about this is that when you're talking to these senior advisers and going through the process with them, they like the fact that there might be another opportunity to go after fani willis and public even if it's not televised. another time to bring her record forward. >> so just to be clear here, so there's the georgia election subversion case, the federal election subversion case, the federal classified documents case, and then also the hush money payment, the alvin bragg, new york case. that's four cases. do we have a date for any of them? no. >> not one. >> no. they had said that they were going to possibly do april at one point for the documents case, then that got moved. she is also waiting to see what happens in the election subversion case. they are now waiting on the supreme court ruling on immunity. so they have paused all of that as we know, they last week extended the deadline for the new york hush money in case for another remarkable 30 days that least 30 it's it's it's madness and it's not just delay is not his only strategy. it's to continue to push this narrative, jake, and he's going to do it all year during the campaign that he's a victim and all of this justice system is coming after him. so as long as he can demonize these prosecutors, he just feeds into that. >> but i mean, are you it's kinda it's kinda bewildering right? i mean, first of all, okay. so the hush money case, one of the arguments in that case, whatever people think of it is that the american people had a right to know about this affair that donald trump had with stormy daniel's, which he denies, but i don't think anyone in the world believes him. before the election, before they voted. now you can argue like, look, the access hollywood tape it drop. nobody thought that they were electing mitt romney here, but still, the american people had a right to know we appear to be heading towards a legal arena where the american people are not going to have knowledge of at least two or three of these cases in terms of testimony. if not all four. >> and that's a really important point, jake, because we don't know what impact that's actually going to have on the electorate because we have seen him pulling people saying they want to know the outcome of these cases before the election. so what does it mean to voters, particularly those who are very concerned about what happened on january 6, who actually moved away from trump because of that to say to them. okay, he's on the ballot again, but this time, you don't get to know what actually happened. i don't think we know yet if that's going to i think the trump team assumes that's in their favor, but i'm not sure that it is because again, if you have a question about someone that you might vote for, for president, yeah, it may make you less likely to vote for her here with two options. sorry, here, the options are you don't know or potentially somebody is convicted of a crime. so if that's the option, wouldn't you rather if you're the trump de and go with i don't really point is that's where they're headed here. it's like, okay, are other option is we know people aren't going to vote for everybody >> understands the trump strategy. it's just kind of stunning just as an american citizen, to watch the legal system. but the trump people are. there is one case that did not go their way, and that is the case from letitia james donald trump is reportedly in panic mode as the deadline approaches to secure this almost half billion-dollar bond for the civil fraud case in new york, so that he can appeal it if he fails to secure the bond. and apparently no insurance company is willing to engage in it. for whatever reason, they could put his new york properties at least some of them on the chopping block. but check out this fundraising tax from the trump campaign. >> today. it says quote from trump. keep your filthy hands off. trump tower, and then provides a fundraising link that they called an emergency memo >> he's he's the victim in jake, what's fascinating is this. it could actually be one example where he will begin to be held accountable, like he's gonna have to put up this money he's known about this for awhile. i ultimately think some he's the republican nominee, some wealthy republican is going to do something for them. >> they haven't yet, they haven't yet. >> but i haven't yet, but diaries i think somebody was i don't know if there'll be one person. i mean, it's a lot of money and even billionaires i was talking to one of our financial experts today, even billionaires, there's tears of billionaires and apparently, yeah, low-level tiers at high tiers, we will get hi to your dr. very small population of people who would have to step forward and they'd like we have to pool some resources to guarantee this bond but if your options are again, your republican nominee going through all this, having to declare bankruptcy, not being able to pay having his assets seized and being humiliated, or securing this and guaranteeing the bond. so that you have a republican nominee who eventually hopefully will do things for you in the future. >> yeah. so my only in an >> interview with gb news that aired last night, donald trump hinted that if he is reelected, prince harry could be deported from the united states in his memoir, spare, harry admitted to using various drugs, which has raised the question as to whether he lied about that when he obtaining his american visa application? here's what trump had to say >> no, something about the drugs. and if he lied, i'll have to take appropriate action, >> appropriate action. >> yeah. >> which might mean mostly i don't know. >> you'll have to tell me. you just have to tell me. you would you would have thought they would have known this a long time ago >> yeah. okay. go ahead. go ahead. please do please try please try to kick carry out of the country. i think that's going to go over really. well. i mean, this is so ridiculous and the same have you he talked about how admiring he is of the royal family and the idea of the royal family, which prints error is not really a member in good standing of the royal family. no, no. i was actually moving on to say and i'm sure in trump's mind, there's a whole justification for that. but no, it's moving on to say, he also so was pointing out how much he likes the concept of royal family, which reminds us that he would like to be, he considers himself the ceo when he is president, not someone who is accountable to his voters, but i suppose maybe he thinks kicking harry out with the bears >> you lead this segment two of his indictment it's trump's indictments involves his attempts to overthrow an american election and the american electorate is going to go to the ballot box in seven months not knowing about his involvement, whether he's going to be held accountable for his involvement, overthrowing in american election. >> the kristen, you still owe, you cover trump so you watch all his rallies, you attend rallies, you see january 6 is not just something that he defends. it is something he celebrates now, he starts rallies with the january 6 criminals in prison singing the national anthem that she recorded what's part of the song for that, right? which he was part of the and also i mean, he calls them hostages at a time, by the way, that there are actual hostages, including american hostages, being kept being held in gaza and in russia, et cetera. he calls these criminals who are in prison were being punished just after being adjudicated hostages. >> yeah. >> i think that he clearly made a decision here. i mean, after january 6, he tried to separate himself from the event, saying it wasn't now he's fully embraced it, saying that they were just patriots sees is that word he is the promise that he will part in them as soon as he is brought back into the white house and you see other republicans kind of getting on board. i mean, they're maybe not celebrating as much, but they're not rebuking him for what he is saying about january 6. >> this >> has become part of his campaign, and i will say a lot of his base is base supporters. they were the ones that were there. they have family that we're the ones that were there on january 6 and he has decided not to alienate them and keep them in the fold by doing this, can i just say? >> having lived through this in 2016, all of these things that we're pointing out, they matter to us absolutely. to his base. they don't to his base. they reinforce why they support him, why? because they also see the grievance narrative is that relates to them. and i think what's important as we go through this year, as we have conversations with voters, we have to bring it back to why does this matter to you in your life? because i think there's the other phenomenon here is it's so much, it's such an overload that people, some of it is just kind of bouncing off because people can absorb all of it so again, it's important that we talk about it because i think it's important surface it. >> but >> the day to day, most people just can absorb most of his base believes by now that january 6 was a pretty good day. and that's why trump does what he does so just a few hours ago, he posted on truth social his social media website, mark milley is a loser who shamed us in afghanistan and elsewhere. know mark >> milley, we should note, is a retired four-star general general trump appointed him chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. trump has an ongoing feud with milli, but this is timing given the millie just testified before congress about the afghanistan withdrawal and the testimony we actually didn't reflect well on the biden administration's handling of the withdrawal from afghanistan, but he's just triggered by the presence of millie and we should note meli. meli gets death threats, millie, like a lot of former trump official joel's who have broken with the precedent has to be protected by security because of that kind of invective in stochastic terrorism, the idea who will rid me of this meddlesome priest and he criticized as these people and they get death threats from his supporters. >> he bad-mouth the military, jake, he bad mouth's law enforcement at every one of his rallies, he rips the capitol hill police, who were there on january 6 this is what he does and it plays with his base. >> all right. guys are not a concern among i guess he has this new campaign team who ran, by the way, vary in terms of the technical parts of it. you know, making sure that california's delegates were winner-take-all and all that stuff. they did a really good job. but they've just made this team they're just, they're not even going to try to convince him to appeal to swing voters in the suburbs of a lock. i'm going to >> try to appeal, like get him to appeal. they know what they need, but they also know who their candidate is. and so what they're going to do is build out a strategy that is going to be a sure thing or try to be a sure thing despite what he says now, they're giving him data that's how they operate. that's what is one of the skill set of this team that shows him what? in each area people care about, whether it's immigration or abortion. and he is going to tailor his message and he is likely too because he sees, oh, they care about this. it doesn't mean he's going to stop talking about deporting migrants or change how he speaks or the language that he uses. but they are trying to show him who exactly it is that that he's talking to. now, whether or not he listens, they concede that that's really ultimately going to be up to him and it's not just up to him, it's up to the mood that he's in. it's not just the decision that he makes us who the last person in his ear, although i'll just add one thing it's not just the mood he's in. it's how the crowd respondents because he it's not just that he leads the base. he followed hello, is the base two? yeah. i think like an if they respond, he was afraid of cutting a deal on immigration because he was afraid they would turn on how they feed off each other if there >> why in 2016, right. when you talking about the older while he was getting so much of a reaction, you didn't like it at first. he thought morning, but the crowd luck. thanks. one and all thanks to our panel had an immature prank call or a sinister threat. the 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yeah. well, unfortunately, jake, this has been an increasingly common trend, four from members of congress, the united states capitol police says, last year they investigated more than 8,000 threats against members of congress, which is 500 more cases than the previous year. back in october, i reported how multiple republicans were receiving threatening phone calls and in some cases, even death threats for voting against jim jordan for speaker during that speakers race. >> and now you have >> tiktok launching this campaign urging users to call members of congress, which has led to an uptick in threats and a flood of phone calls. some in some cases, from people who don't even appear to know what a member of congress is. but i can tell you, jake that in speaking to a lot one of sources here on capitol hill that campaign from tiktok appears to have backfired. there were some lawmakers who were on the fence about this tiktok bill, who now say they've been pushed into the yes. camp. and senator tillis himself said this is a perfect example. this dangerous disinformation campaign is a perfect example of why congress needs to crack down on the app >> jake, where does the legislation stand right now, this legislation that would either force a sale of tiktok or bana yes. >> so it did already passed the house, so it's fate now rests in the senate. and earlier today's senators did receive a briefing and national security briefing on the potential national crt threat that tiktok poses. >> but >> some key senators are saying that they need to put their own stamp on the legislation that they need to hold hearings. so even though there's a sense of urgency, it could be months before senate actually x. and if that is the case, there is also a risk of momentum. momentum slipping and the entire bill stalling out. >> and also, melanie, you just caught up with colorado republican can congressman ken buck, who is retiring from congress. he he was going to serve out the rest of his term, but he's just saying he's leaving at the end of this week. some of his republican colleagues are not exactly giving him the kindest farewell. >> no, that's right. the house freedom caucus, which is an ultra conservative group kicked him out of the group. group last night. this according to ken buck, now, a source close to the groups that the reason is because of attendance issues that's something they're trying to crack down on. they said ken buck has not been attending meetings regularly and that's why they chose to boot him, but it's no doubt also have to do with the fact that ken buck has booked his party on a number of key issues, including impeachment. he's been openly critical of donald trump. he had called the certified that 2020 election, so he's often been at odds with the freedom caucus and now he is only days away from him resigning early from congress and move that some republicans believe was designed to hurt lauren bowlby, who's trying to run to replace them in the 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israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu would appear as republican leaders are doing the opposite. house speaker mike johnson is considering inviting it's in yahoo to address a joint session of congress. this is after some republicans floated the idea of this morning, a joint session invitation would need a buy-in from democrats, namely senate majority leader chuck schumer, who just last week quite controversially called for a new election in israel and said netanyahu, because government no longer fit the needs of israeli citizens joining us now, a former secretary during defense from the trump administration, mark esper market, the cia. so netanyahu called into a republican lunch today, listen to what republican senator thom tillis said before the lunch the baby will hear from us that we stand behind them. we stand behind the israeli people and we're not going to second guess it's, it's easy to be an armchair quarterback like we've got senator schumer was last week. it's hard to lead in the circumstances that mr. dan you're finds himself right now >> now, we said no, it's senate aides kept reporters away from even being in the hallways outside the meeting saying they were concerns they would overhear netanyahu's comments separately. trump's said on a podcast that democrats who vote, i'm sorry, that jews who vote for democrats hate religious, hate judaism, hate israel and should be ashamed of themselves. what's your take on the schumer speech? trump's comments and more, it's 2024. domestic politics creeping into foreign policy they or maybe running into foreign policy. and look, israel's in a very tough situation fighting arguably the fight of their lives right now in terms of trying to rid hamas out of gaza once and for all, they need our support, but they clearly need to do more when it comes to humanitarian aid. and i think the important thing is for them, us to play straight play it like we always do and don't allow domestic politics the best you can to work its way into this. really trying times. >> so biden president biden has asked netanyahu to send a team of top israeli officials to dc in hopes of getting netanyahu to not do this attack on rafah, this large-scale military operation on rafah netanyahu was agreed and he's going to send some israeli officials but it is clear that netanyahu seems quite intense on the invasion. he said a civilian evacuation plan for palestinians in rafah alpha will be approved. soon. >> what is your >> take on the military necessity of the idf going into rafah? i mean, i don't know what numbers were supposed to believe, but 30,000, even if it's a fraction of that, it's still way too many civilians have been killed innocent palate let's do indian civilians by the idf. well, there are two things. your check. first of all, the he needs to go into rafah. that's where they believe hamas's leadership is there. yeah, yeah sinwar is either there or khan yunis. they believe that there are six to eight times a remaining six to eight per of hamas militants there. and i think their view is if they're going to defeat hamas militarily, they have to take up the middle tents, take out the leadership that's remaining, and then go after the underground tunnels. now, that said, they also have a responsibility to do so in a way that that prevents unnecessary human loss, that allows humanitarian aid to come in at the same time. so you. have to do both. they're going to do both. but i think in order to get his victory, in order for israel to be successful, they have to go into rafah and clear out these militants >> the roe, the rules of engagement are different for different battles that i remember when mcchrystal took over in afghanistan and he changed the roe to make it tougher for americans to shoot afghans. he made, he added requirements because his fear me, crystals fear. was that the us at that point was creating more insurgents and they were killing them by killing innocent people. >> there >> are those who look at what israel is doing in gaza and say that they are not abiding by the roe, that even they used to hold. and like 2014, for example, that they are willing to take more risks to kill, more risks to civilians, to kill lower level hamas operatives. what do you think? >> well, clearly, you don't >> want to kill, create more terrorists while you're trying to kill terrorists. so that's number one. number two, is there outside experts who say that the ratio of civilians killed two militants killed has been lower than most other battles by other countries >> but look clearly when you're going to situation like this, you need to be more discriminant. you need to be careful in terms of how you employ military force because you don't want unnecessary civilian casualties, casualties, whether or not you create more terrorists or not. so it is incumbent upon the idf to take those measures and to enforce them even if it means greater risk for their own troops. >> before you go, i want to quickly switch topics, get your take on something retired general mark milley said about the completion date of the afghanistan withdrawal during the house foreign affairs committee hearing yesterday. take a listen. >> i'll be candid. i don't even know where who made the decision of the 11 september thing i frankly thought it was actually inappropriate at the moment in time, but it was very rapidly changed to the end of august right before you were let go by donald trump, you wrote a memo that warned against the rust withdrawal of us troops from afghanistan. it sounds as though million saying that the september 11 withdrawal completion date made no sense and it was picked for symbolic reasons, not logistical ones. what do you think? >> i think that's what he was saying? they would dishonor 911 and americans lost their lives at the twin towers and the pentagon and chang will be two to end the war on that note on that day, i think that's what he was saying. and of course, other things came out of that that hearing as well, but that's kinda my read on his testimony. was there anything that struck you, anything else >> well, look, i think there were a few things that struck me. first of all, that both the he in general, mckenzie said that they to include sector defense, austin had recommended to the president that 2,500 troops be remaining country. and of course we know president biden said later, george stephanopoulos on abc, that's not the case and he wasn't told that. i think secondly, the intelligent intelligence failures that maybe the intelligence community, or at least the state department thought that the gang government would hold on longer than expected, and then thirdly, as general mackenzie outline, state waited way too long to give the order to conduct the neo than non combatant evacuation operation. those the big three things that jumped out for me. all right. secretary mark esper. good to see you. thank you. >> the report cards are in in the 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privacy by downloading duckduckgo on all your devices today. visit coventry direct.com >> erin burnett, outfront tonight at seven odd cnn in? our, healthily. >> the cost of closing schools during the covid outbreak is coming into clearer focus in children are of course, the ones paying the price. there was a lot of fear and confusion in the early days of the pandemic, of course. but it became pretty clear pretty early that ending in-person learning for kids was creating a whole host of serious educational and psychological problems for children. this is how i press the then head of the cdc back in february 2021 what's the science? because you have said, there's not just you but dr. fauci, others have been saying for months that the schools should be open as long as there's masking and cleansing and social distancing everything that we talked about if a school is doing that, i understand if there's a mask violation that's a problem. but if a school is doing that i mean, the damage as i don't need to tell you on kids, the isolation, the psychological damage, the educational loss of a year for many kids, not to mention the thousands of kids who are just slipping through the cracks. i mean, it's it's hard to even calculate and there are a lot of people out there watching who think like, i thought the science said we should open the schools as long as that we take those safety steps. we're taking the safety steps and we're not opening the schools >> yeah. it's so there are numerous research studies that have demonstrated that if with universal masking & six feet of distancing and d densification of the class that's rooms that it's possible to get schools back safely with all of that happening, 92% of people in those studies were masked. we have other data that was just published in cdc he's mmwr that demonstrate that somewhere around 60% of students are reliably masking that has to be universal. so we have work to do, especially when the country remains in the red zone. hi community transmission as a transmission comes down. we'll be able to relax some of these measures. but the real point is to make sure that the science is consistent with our guidance, which is consistent to say until we can ensure that we have all those measures happening, that there would the schools would be safe >> now, three years out the data reveals a sharp decline in test scores. and this week, the new york times released and analysis and found students who spent more time in remote or hybrid learning saw larger declines falling behind more than half a year and math scores for students in grades three through eight. cnn's athena jones is here to help us better understand the cost of closing schools during covid athena hi jake old. >> we all remember march of 20, 2044 years ago this month when schools across the country began to shut down along with everything else to try to halt the spread of covid-19. this deadly virus that no one had ever seen before. but now new research is adding to a growing body of evidence that shows that remote learning during the pandemic was a key driver of academic declines. and these academic harms to children have been long and lasting and even schools that we opened relatively quickly, like by the fall of 2020, are still seeing lasting effects. here are some numbers to illustrate this for you. we know from the nation's report card a national assessment of educational progress that pandemic learning loss was significant. that's the number for 13-year-olds reading scores for 13 fell by four points in the 2022 to 2023 school year compared to the year before they pandemics are 20, 2020, when it comes to math scores, that decline was even bigger, nine points you see, for 13 we also found that reading and math scores for 13-year-olds fell at all levels, even high performers and low performers. but they were much larger. these declines for lower-performing students, che, while the losses were across the board. it's also clear from this analysis that household income was a factor it was researchers from stanford and harvard looked at this and they found that learning losses were larger in low-income communities and in minority districts. and in districts where they remain remote, remote, or hybrid for a longer part a longer period of the 2020, 2021 school year. >> they also pointed to >> several community characteristics. they said were related to learning loss. one of them, broadband access. we know that lack of access the internet was a big problem in some poor districts, but they said that none of these, these community characteristics explains the learning loss fully the bottom line here, as we saw from those numbers in 2022, 2023, with 13 year-olds learning loss is hard to overcome without a serious investment and test scores are showing that students have not caught up. and so now that there's so much data piling up, i'd say showing the consequences of school closures were really, really negative for children. this is certain to influence how schools and communities approach this sort of thing when there's another pandemic. >> yeah, and that's just educational. there's also the psychological damage the kids that turn to marijuana, the kids at turned to fentanyl, but kids that are now ism can click slip through the cracks so horrible, horrible series of decisions. athena jones thanks so much. coming up damning claims as child sexual abuse and nickelodeon, what a new docuseries alleges about the network that's next our mission here at cnn is that the news comes first that's the promise of the situation room. we work as hard as we can to get the facts the situation, with wolf blitzer >> next on cnn >> this is carbonic >> and so is this. and this is how you can sell it. >> your car >> visit carbonic, and your >> licensed later event answer a few questions and are powerful technology will give you a real offer in seconds. then set a time for us to pick it up and hey, you on the spot >> 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owned by cnn's parent company, uncovered other surprising information as they petitioned to unseal court documents from the case against pack. let's bring in cnn's elizabeth wagmeister. elizabeth, walk us through what this docu series brought to light yes this docu series did bring to light some very disturbing allegations of toxic behavior >> onset with former child stars. now, as you referenced, drake bell, who was a huge, huge star on nickelodeon. he was the star our of drake and josh. he has now revealed himself to be the anonymous accuser. he was a john doe during this case in 2004 that led to the arrest and conviction of brian peck, who was an actor and a dialogue voice coach. now, by the way, he was arrested it on a charge of lewd acts with a child and oral copulation. he served 16 months and he had to register as a sex offender. now aside from revealing that drake bell was the anonymous accuser, this docuseries also revealed that there were over 40 letters of support to the judge for brian peck coming from some famous former child stars, three stars from boy meets world recently said that they wrote letters and support. they now say that they regret that decision and they were also victims of brian peck manipulation. now, nickelodeon, we reached out to them. it's cnn. they have released a statement and here's part of what they said, jake. they say that our highest priorities are the well-being and best interests, not just of our employees, cast and crew, but of all children and we have adopted numerous safeguards over the years to help ensure we are living up to our own high standards in the exponent patients of our audience. now, they also say that they are dismayed and saddened to learn about the trauma that drake bell and dirt and that they support him for coming forward. >> so this docu series came out last week, and it's still being talked about on social media all over the place. why do you think it struck such a nerve? >> a lot of us grew up watching these shows, these allegations are coming from a time that was really the golden age of nickelodeon when these shows were getting millions of viewers every week. and this really exposes the dark seedy underbelly of this mysterious world of hollywood's certainly in a post-meeting too movement. now, these behaviors would never be accepted, and we are now shining a light on what is being uncovered. now the other reason jake, that this is getting more attention this week is dan schneider. he is a producer and a creator of about a dozen nickelodeon shows. he's been referred to as the norman lear of kids tv. he is credited with discovering ariana grand day and drake bell, kenan thompson. he just came out with an interesting video message let's take a look at what he said. >> let's talk about the massages. >> okay. >> watching the content yesterday, that was disturbing >> it was wrong. >> it was wrong that >> ever put anybody in that position? it was wrong thing to do. i'd never do it today. i'm embarrassed that i did it then there's definitely things that i would do differently one that i think would be really, really important is when you're hiring young actors, minors to work in television i would suggest that we have a licensed therapist. there to oversee that process for the specific reason of making sure that those kids really wanted to do this job >> now, that was dan shnaider there who as i said, was a prolific creator on nickelodeon. in fact, one of the most prolific creators of children's television shows. he is being interviewed there. if we can call it an an interview by one of his former actors from ms show that is not a journalist. we should point out and dan shnaider was actually dropped by nickelodeon in 2018 after working with them for two decades and creating huge hits like the amanda show and drake and josh zoe one-on-one. so when nickelodeon cut ties with him, jay, it was very mysterious, right? what happened there? he has denied any allegations since. and as we see in that video, he's denying them again. now, we have reached out to dan schneider. no word back yet. i've also reached out to representatives for drake bell to get his reaction on dan snyder's comment. i'll update you when we hear back. oh, yeah. please do elizabeth wagmeister. thanks so much. appreciate it. and if you or anyone you know, has been sexually assaulted, please call the national sexual assault hotline at 80656. hope. that's 80656 for or hope >> we'll be right back >> united states of scandal with jake tapper. sunday at nine on cnn, awkward >> question. is there going to be anything leftover? >> oh excellently >> my kids don't know what they want. you know, who knows what she wants >> with empowered. we get all of our financial questions answered. >> so you don't have to worry empower, >> what's next? did you know there's no t in skechers? >> what he told about me is always been scheduled t and these get to slippery get to slip bands romo 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