importantly, she's an all around great human being, and we are truly going to ms her. so thank you, christina. and we wish you the best of luck moving forward. the news continues to source of kate collins starts now straight from the source tonight, willis stays, wade goes and the case against donald trump in georgia survived hi, it's but the da of fulton county did get a blistering review. what that could mean for the case moving forward. >> also, maybe not surprising >> and yet somehow still absolutely stunning former vice president mike pence says he cannot, in good conscience, endorsed donald trump. the fallout tonight, coming fast and furious. and it's being called hell on earth. cnn is the first major news network to arrive in haiti's capital since gang uprisings plunged the country into chaos and lawlessness embryonic healer in for kaitlan collins. and this is the source tonight. >> stormy daniels, mike cohen and company left waiting for their day in court. mike pence left without a candidate to support for president and fani willis left without a lead prosecutor. she goes up against the former president of the united states in court but. the fulton county da is still standing. and so is the biggest case of her career, despite a more than two month effort to derail it by the trump team and co-defendants in georgia. it wasn't a complete vindication for willis, though not by a long shot judge scott mcafee admonishing her many times in his searing decision review again, her for both a tremendous lapse in judgment and the unprofessional manner of her testimony after she was accused of a conflict of interest stemming from her romantic relationship with nathan wade, the man she hand-picked to be the lead prosecutor on the case. >> it's ridiculous to me that you lied on monday. and yet here we still do. you've been >> intrusive into people's personal lives. you'll confuse, you think i'm on trial. you've lied in this. let me tell you which one you lied right here i think you lied right here. >> no, no, no. this is the true judge and good. he has a lot the judge today gave willis and ultimatum as he noted, a quote, cloud of impropriety hanging over the case. either she goes along with her whole team or wig goes, and now he has nathan wade resigning within hours of the judges ruling and willis accepting that resignation, praising wade in the process. a quote from willis. i compliment you for the professionalism and dignity you have shown. you are the one who had the courage to accept the role, even though you did not seek it you are an outstanding advocate. donald trump chiming in on social media saying wade resigned in disgrace, calling it big stuff as today's events have raised a whole new set of questions about where this case is headed i'm joined now by a pair of veteran georgia attorneys, michael moore and amy lee copeland with us now. i'm going to say michael three months ago, you were saying that fani willis should step aside and we saw the judge and monitoring her for her behavior, but he didn't find legal reason why she should i wonder what your reaction is to his decision >> yeah. well, i'm glad to be with both debbie. i was not surprised at the order. i think he basically split the baby on this and said that i'm not going to move forward in this case with this problem because there is an appearance of impropriety. and so somebody's got to to clean it up. >> the real place you take with it is that this cleanup should have been done months ago this could have been handled by the district attorney and by mr. wade and i could have read the writing on the wall. i don't like it took 2020 vision to see that and that they should have pulled them off the case at that time. and eliminated this circus that we've been watching now for a couple of months as opposed to talk about the case or other things going on with the prosecution of the former president. so i'm not surprised at all. i don't think there was anyone can make a claim that the district attorney was exonerated by the order that just wasn't the case in matter of fact, the judge went to some great lengths to say, i'm constrained by the law that are higher courts have set. but by the way, this is something that it may be considered by the state bar by the ethics commission, by the legislature, and other bodies like that. and he talked about the case having a sort of a stake of lying around it. and that's never good if you're a prosecutor or a warrior, but certainly if you're not, if you're the prosecutor, moving into prosecutor case like this, you do not walk the judge viewing your case, your evidence, your arguments, your statements in court through a lens of skepticism because of how he may have viewed your testimony and representations you made have made to the court that may not be quite accurate in an earlier setting. >> amy lee, this ruling by the judge also dealt with the issue of comments that fani willis had made before a church in january that was also something that trump and co-defendants were concerned about in this case. to that point, the judge seemed to open the possibility of a gag order. he said that wasn't the question before the court, but he he seemed to suggest that maybe if asked that question, he might answer in the affirmative. was that what you took away from what he was saying in his order? >> absolutely a rionda a he did say that that if the sum party wanted to seek a gag order against the state, which is very unusual. >> he >> would consider such a motion. the defense is kind of an interesting position here. they may want her to say more things so that they could then bring forward further claims of forensic misconduct even if there isn't a gag order entered by the judge, i think the da's office would be wise to have a self-imposed gag order on themselves going forward. >> that may be in effect what happens here? amy lee, also, the implications aemilia, this case, they stretch across georgia politics, right? if you take governor brian kemp, unique position, he's actually a witness in the case. here's what he told katelyn last month about what he expected the judge to do on this you'll trust his ruling. >> well, listen, i believe he's a good man. i mean, i pointed him and i think he i'm very confident that he'll be a constitutionalist, if you will. he won't make up the law hill, follow it >> emily, i wonder what the consensus is and georgia legal circles about how judge mcafee has handled this issue judge mcafee seems to be not offensive to anybody on on either side. he seems to be a guy that is widely regarded as trying to do a good job and following the law to be fair and impartial. this whole hearing erupted, brianna, because he was concerned given what he had read on the paper, he simply needed to hear more. >> and when you talk >> about judges and when you talk about criminal defendants, it's all about notice and hearing. >> he would have >> gotten in more trouble. i think if he hadn't had a hearing on these allegations, if he had just dealt with them on paper. so he is heard everybody out. >> he is issued border that he clearly thought a lot about. >> he >> followed the law. he explained what the law was any dealt with it he saw that there was a problem and he remedied it. he remedied the problem that he saw >> so far, haven't heard any political >> fallout about the judge himself. of course, the da is always the subject of the prosecuting attorneys commission or i'm sorry, the new law that's coming in to deal with prosecuting attorneys. there's a lot of speculation about whether that will be used against her. >> michael, the earliest that we may see this case in court. what do you think? >> i think it's going to be sometime next year. i think you saw earlier this week when the judge dismissed some of the counts of the indictment he welcomed or at least mentioned the idea of an interlocutory appeal at that time by the state. he's also there's been some discussion of it now, as it relates to his ruling here, the further we get to the election, the morning i'm likely it is to see this case. remember that at the outset, the state said that they expected it would take about five months, i'm relieved to try the case that there's no way he's going to start a trial that's going to drag right across election day, not to mention the fact that we have federal courts out there that also have cases or they typically take priority over state charges like this. i just really think that there's no way the case is tried this year. and we're talking next year, if trump is elected, that's a different thing because typically a sitting president would not be hailed into state court somewhere. debtor answer charges that would be done after their term. so i just don't see how there's any possible way this goes before the election it's quite the reality check there. michael moore, amy lee copeland. thank you to you both. >> when the history books are written, will remember this week because it rewrote the 2024 calendar for the presumptive republican nominee, not that long ago, donald trump had trials lined up ahead of him after this week, things are looking a whole lot more open between now and election day. cnn legal analyst, and former federal prosecutor, jennifer rodgers, is with us now to try to help us sort out where everything stands right here. jennifer, starting with new york and the manhattan da's case on this, how long of a delay are you expecting here as the process? the question is seeking 30 days and the defendant obviously wants significantly longer >> yeah. >> briana well, it really depends on what is in these documents that have most recently been turned over by the us attorney's office. the judge is holding a hearing, effectual hearing on march 25th, that date the child was supposed to start and he said he will not set a trial date until he rules on this discovery violation motion that he's hearing arguments about. monday the 25th, so we don't know. so for people thinking it's just a matter of between the 30 days in the 90 days trump wants this case dismissed because of these violations or michael cohen and to be prohibited from testifying. so the stakes are much higher than just how long will we be delayed. but assuming that they successfully convince the judge that he should not dismiss the case, and we're just talking about a delay. again, it just depends on how much time the trump folks need to review these files and then calendar comes in. steve bannon, trial is scheduled for may in judge martians courtroom, normally a trial that's already set will take precedence over one that has to move. and then you get into the summer with all these other possible things coming down the pike. it's just really hard to say this could actually append all of these other cases that we've been waiting to see whether or they can actually get done before the election >> yeah, we have to remember that the court has a calendar as well. and as you mentioned, steve bannon is already scheduled in front of this same judge. you said normally that scheduled trial would take precedent do you see any way that might change even if that is sort of the normal protocol >> well, sure. i mean, the judge is in charge of his courtroom, he certainly could call the parties and on the ban in case and say, listen, i'm sorry. we're going to have to move the trial. it's pick a new date. he has the power to do that and he may do that but that's not how it usually goes usually, he has things that are set. this one has been set since mid last year, the ban and trial has been set for may so i don't know whether martian will want to move that or not, but that's really the issue because bumping this one back a month runs it straight into that. so if he says, well, we have to wait till after the band and in child the band and trial won't be over until probably july. so you're really now starting to get into the end of summer, which would even if this case can still get completed before the election, really would preclude any of the other cases from getting scheduled and completed before the election. >> yeah. >> it's certainly would. jennifer rodgers. thank you so much for your insights >> ahead. >> is trump's election interference trial in georgia now moves forward and he falsely claims he's been being persecuted by joe biden. we're going to talk to a former us attorney, warning about the growing threat of disinformation in america. >> also, >> former vice president mike like dropping some major news >> i cannot in good conscience endorsed donald trump in this campaign >> we're, here to get your. side of the store. >> why do we keep ending up here? you can't write this stuff. united states of >> scandal with jake tapper sunday your nine on cnn >> you take me so better again la feel bad i'm sorry, body for knowing about active ingredients but giving 100% of them to my face. sorry, for never checking 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says, the truth is disinformation is a direct threat to our democracy. we have barbara milkweed with us now. she's a former us attorney for the eastern district of michigan, and she's the author of the new book, attack from within, how disinformation is sabotaging america. a barbara, i wanna get to your book in just a moment here, but i want to talk to you a little bit about this decision in georgia because the judge, while allowing fani willis to stay on here, this is certainly only a ruling that has hit on her reputation. even her professionalism. and i wonder what your reaction was to judge mcafee decision and what her continued presence is going to mean for the case well, i think one of the strategies that we see people like donald trump use is distraction. and to put the prosecution on trial, i think that's exactly what they did here. now, i think the ultimate decision here is the right one, which is that nathan wade should be off this case to avoid this distraction. but i think the judge overreached a little bit in finding that there was no conflict of interest and yet still giving her this ultimatum that either she goes or nathan wade goes and it does give donald trump his victory. and this suggestion that she is in some way corrupt, she made a terrible mistake a tremendous is the judge said lapse in judgment in development hoping a personal relationship with someone who's a prosecutor on her case, but that conflict of interests is not a conflict of interest that in any way affects the rights of the defendants. and so i think the judge wanted to remove the destruction he's done that and they should move on, but no doubt donald trump will continue to harp on this issue in an effort to undermine the credibility of the entire prosecution yeah. >> it's not a threat to due process was the point that judge mcafee was making here. the judge at one point said the wade-willis relationship does leave what he called any very colorful quote, an odor of mendacity over the case. >> is >> that something that could be a factor in a potential appeal >> it could. i don't know that either side will appeal this issue. i think that if you're finding willis, you kinda want to just get on with it and get going in the ultimate verdict, depending on what the verdict is. if, for instance, trump does not like the outcome in the case >> i >> suppose he could say that she should have been removed from the case. it could be that, but i think for the same reasons cited in the judges opinion, he very meticulously went through the law regarding the georgia standards of conflicts of interest and found none. so i don't think so. i think at the end ended the day that will not be an issue, but i do think that that language is something that will be used by opponents of fani willis to try to undermine her credibility >> yeah, we all learned a lot about the law when it comes to these kinds of cases, reading his couple dozen pages a ruling, there it's clear, barbara, this isn't over. you have the state's gop he led senate still reviewing conflict of interests, accusations. could this continued spotlight on her impact a future jury pool >> it's possible when you go through jury selection, one of the goals is to weed out people who might have formed opinions about the case or about anyone participating in it? i've actually found in my work most of the time. you can find people who have not read or heard anything about the case but to the extent this is big headline news in fulton county, it could tainted jury pool, who is hearing about this and cause them to form opinions about the case. so certainly i think it's something that prosecutors will need to be cognizant of when they're selecting a jury in this case >> your book attack from within is about how disinformation is sabotaging america how is it sabotaging america? what is the thesis here in your book? >> well, i think that disinformation is something that's been around for centuries. but one thing that we're seeing now that is different from before is the ability to use technology to reach more people instantaneously with false claims. donald trump's truth, social, for example, will reach millions of people in an instant tonight, they have all read that i, think the other thing that is different at this political moment is the incredible polarization we have in our society. and while some people fall for false claims, there are other people. i believe, who are willing to go along with the con simply to advance their political agenda. i think we've reached a point society where we are choosing tribe over truth. and i think that is not a way for us to solve problems >> yeah, it's very clear. you see family's been split up. your book is so interesting. it traces how authoritarians have used disinformation tactics to seize and stay in power. and i wonder what kind of parallels you see with donald trump >> i see a lot of parallels, brianna. i mean, one is this idea of decline ism to suggest to the people that our country is in decline, that things used to be better and now things are awful and it requires drastic means to restore our country to its greatness using repetition of very simple phrases again and again so that people begin to hear it. they hear it in their echo chamber. things like stop the steal during the swamp, lock her up and then the idea that if you're going to lie, make it a big lie because as hitler wrote in mind, cough, many people will tell white lies and not think that that is moral in any way. but most of us would never imagine having the audacity to tell a big lie about something that is very significant. and we project, project onto others that same morality and so with donald trump, we see this idea of a stolen election. what could be more audacious than that with zero evidence whatsoever to just say it is true. and hope that people buy it. and in fact, we have seen many people believe it. we've got many people who believe the election 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vice president mike pence. in a surprise announcement today, the two time trump running mate made clear it's not in his conscience to support his old boss >> it should come as no surprise that i will not be endorsing donald trump this year. a look, i'm incredibly proud of the record of our administration, but that being said during my presidential campaign, i made it clear that there were profound differences a between me and president trump on a range of issues that donald trump is pursuing an articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years. and that's why i cannot in good conscience endorsed donald trump in this campaign >> joining me now is former arkansas governor and former gop presidential hopeful, esa hutchinson. governor. what's your reaction to pence's decision here? >> oh, briana, i think it was extraordinary that he he he came out and really as a matter of conviction to himself personally, but also a matter of policy. he said, trump is not the right to conservative, to lead the republican party i've known mike pence for over 20 years and this was well thought out. he realized that he could not support donald trump. and for someone to have served with him for four years was his running mate twice as you pointed out, for him to say, i cannot endorse him really reflects and enthused the asm gap amongst a significant portion of the republican party toward donald trump. and i think that's a real problem for him. and it's the lack of conservative approach that he might have that mike pence articulated on the life issue on the national debt and certainly on foreign policy and his movement toward isolationism. clearly, that's the reason he stated today. i think that's a problem for donald trump. >> why do you think it's a significant part of the republican party when mike pence saw so little support as he was running for president. why do you think it is a big part of the party? >> well he was very clear in his message as he ran and he was a realist and he dropped out and said it's not his time. but you've got to move forward and south carolina, if 40% of the people supported an alternative, donald trump among the republicans you move into super tuesday and it varied between 20% in some states, 30% of the republican base said, let give us an alternative. donald trump has to bring those in as well as expand to independence. and this is not a good ullman whenever you have a significant leader in the party that was the bridge toward evangelical support for donald trump. that's what mike pence was. he was a bridged the evangelicals and now he say, whoa, let's think about this. i can endorse hail and so obviously donald trump has got the operations of the rnc. he's got the delegates wrapped up. but this is a challenge that he has to address. the enthusiasm and that breadth of conservatives at say, we ought to have an alternative. it can be a problem over the long term. >> governor pence said it wasn't january 6 where you heard the crowd dealing. hang mike pence. he said it was about policy and that's why he wasn't endorsing donald trump. do you believe that? >> well, yes, i believe what mike pence says for him, it's a matter of policy for me and others. it's a matter of policy and january 6 does make a difference. and so it's the culmination of all of that. and he's tried to reframe the issues over and over again and many of the republican base i said, okay we accept that. but there's a significant portion that says no, that's not right. i do believe that there's a big difference between mike pence of donald trump? uh, my pants is an encourager and donald trump visited ranger and that can only go so far and even though that was not sad, i think that's part of the difference as well. >> definitely a temperamental difference. governor hutchinson, great to have you. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> let's bring in cnn political commentator, and democratic strategist maria cardona and republican strategists rena shaw. do you guys believe mike pence? when he says it's policy and it it's it's not january 6. there's only it's really policies, the emphasis know, i mean, how can you really believe somebody who on january 6, he was hearing chance of hang mike pence now, maybe this is what he is saying publicly because he still doesn't have the backbone to tell the truth. and that is the truth. that january 6 was a place where not only his life was in danger, but so many others elected officials lives were in danger. but he was never one to have the backbone. and the the where with all to really go up against all. >> he's had some backbone though. his family was in danger, by the way as well. renal, what do you think? >> well, he's found his conscience after almost a decade at themes because this is what had to happen for mike pence to be mike pence up until now, he's now made the decision that he will no longer pursue a career in politics of conventional way. i think you realize that for that dead end presidential primary run, that there's not an audience for him anymore. and so he's come out and he's saying the right thing. so i say welcome to the bright side. former vp but if you really want to do this the right way, the way those of us who've stood firmly never trump within the republican party has, for the past eight years, then you need to give a full-throated rebuke of trumpism. and i think he's understood that now he wants to warn how dangerous trumpism is. he can you just do that in plain speak? and i think this is also a bit of a bad signal to those who may still support him within the republican party that christian of angelico base that very much as always liked him. this may be saying to them, hey, you ought to be looking at who you're casting your vote for this fall. but the phrase of the year, it's turnout briana, we know that many of those evangelicals will still vote for trump. we know that i do want to listen to what pence said at a cnn town hall last year. let's listen to this i've always supported the republican nominee for president in the united states and all support the republican nominee in 2024 especially if it's me >> well, it's not him. is this the new is that pledge? the new. i'm going to fill out my >> term. i'm going to fulfill my term. i won't run for president. i mean, it seems like it's just an empty pledge. what we did is an empty pledge. it means nothing. these daisies are empty words and promises, whereas your looking at this thing right now with pen saying what he said today, i think in the back of his mind, he is praying for herrmann, hail mary for another door to open because we all know we're in uncharted territory. we've never seen nominees. the presumptive nominee and trump under such weird circumstances. so pence's may be waiting for something else to happen with the gop nomination and he can endorse them. what else? let's >> 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to the capital since gangs attack the caribbean nation's government those armed gangs control much of port-au-prince and warned of a possible civil war as international powers outside the country haggle over a transitional government to replace the unpopular ariel henry, tens of thousands have been forced to flee their homes. and 1.4 million haitians face emergency levels of hunger and need assistance distance according to the world food programme >> we have >> seen in senior national correspondent david culver in port-au-prince david, tell us what it is like they're on the ground hey, there briana been here just a few hours already and you get this tense feeling. but at the same time it's eerily quiet. i mean, especially when you compare it to what we saw three weeks or so ago and they had vendors out on the street. you a bit more livelihood and activity and now there's none of that. i mean, there's for one nothing to sell and then you don't have a lot of folks out and about it because of the growing fear here and the stretching control of these gangs and emits though the silent you also at times and you may even hear it as we're talking, good rounds and unfair and the poppy of of a firearms going off. it's just something that folks here have become accustomed to it speaks to the growing crisis in the city, and that's been really gripping this country bigger than all of that is how it's trickling down to impact everyday life. you've got people who are barricading their communities. now we saw that three weeks ago, but it's intensified and then you have now neighborhood. i mean, if you think back to the us handles neighborhood watch, this is certainly amplified. you've got people have essentially created armed brigades to defend them their communities. so it's elevated to that level. the health care system is facing incredible situation right now with you've got 80% according to one local hospital executive of the hospitals, having shuttered, they've been ransac they've been looted. you have medical workers who were there who have been targeted three of the hospitals in the most impoverished parts. so the folks who were desperately in need of it, those are totally shut down. and the food situation is growing increasingly dire. in fact, you've got, this country has got 90% of what they consume coming into. it's important, you've got supply chains that are essentially cut off the port goes. now it's back in police control, but it's goes back and forth. i mean, it shows you that the games were able to block off certain areas and even are less than ten minute drive from when we touched down to where we are now. you notice how the logistics of getting around can change by the hour it's a very unpredictable situation, brianna and one that's growing really for these folks to be just desperate >> yeah. i >> mean, that gets to the situation for you of getting to port-au-prince, which of course is the hardest hit by the violence here was so difficult for you and your team what did it take >> so we were six days in the dominican republic and a lot of that was just day after day, and sometimes several hours trying to attempt different crossings and good doing land crossings. but then the bureaucratic aspect, because the dominican republic has sealed the border between haiti and the dr. has made it very challenging. so we're trying to go through all those logistical hurdles to eventually make our way here. again, it took almost a week and we landed just a few hours ago. here's a sampling of the journey in what is a city that is vast, majority controlled by gangs >> don't know what you play i'm going to pick out the one i would forget their logistics up this trip alone and have been incredibly challenging to say the least, they're confirming with us something that we've been working dion the entire day and that is the landing zone trying to figure out where we'll touch down it's a very dire situation in order, friends gunshots to hear that already hearing gunshots, just a few seconds into stepping out of the car after arriving here, what it prints again six days to make that journey for us. and that was to come into haiti brianna, imagine the many folks in pilots told us they have lists that are hundreds long of those trying to leave a lot of them diplomats and then think about those who just don't have that luxury, they have no opportunity. many of them patients here to be able to escape this situation. it shows you that for them relying on the aid, particularly from international community, is going to be a challenge because the supply chains coming in, as you solve for our journey and it's just incredibly challenging >> yeah, >> certainly is, david. thank you. and we look forward to your reports here in the coming days from haiti david culver. thank you. thanks, >> briana and for more on the situation in haiti. let's bring in daniel foote, who was special envoy for the biden administration, 2021. >> ambassador. thanks for being with us ariel henry effectively ousted, says he'll step aside when a replacement is named through this process of a transitional government being broken record by a number of outside parties, including the us. i know that you think that is definitely not the answer. what is the answer right now is you see it forgetting to a new government and some stability the answer is for the first time in his the second time in history, i guess to give haitians the right and the dignity >> of self-determining their transition. in their way forward the us and international community has just completed 32 months of blindly and stubbornly backing a completely illegitimate and hated leader, ariel henry in haiti. >> he did >> nothing but exacerbate the situation and make it exponentially worse and the international community is getting ready to do the same thing with this caricom construct out of the caribbean multilateral organization where they say it's haitian to lead. and here's how it works. they, the foreigners pick seven or nine haitians. there's still fill around with the numbers and then those seven or nine asians pick the transition government as opposed to the other 11.5 million haitians. so the haitians are kind of up in arms about this. and the problem is now the gangs which we're talking about genocide a week ago, are now talking about revolution and channeling the populations desire not to have foolish solution that won't work foisted upon them again i should also mention you resigned in 2021 over the biden administration's plans to deport haitian >> refugees back to haiti. so what do you think about what we've learned that the administration has been considering guantanamo bay in cuba as a processing location for haitian migrants. if there's a mass exodus to the us, this is according to a us sufficient >> look, do we want haiti to get better and make it better for haitians and national security because the transnational organized crime and illicit trafficking into and out of port-au-prince is at unprecedented levels that we're completely aware of at this point they need some kind of security intervention. however, if that intervention is seen as propping up in illegitimate four and nor imposed government there's where your civil war comes. the haitians are going to fight the peacekeepers. and the haitians are going to win their sovereignty this time, 220 years after they won their independence from france ambassador here in the near term, what else does the us and what do other nations need to do to alleviate the humanitarian crisis in haiti? >> we need to support a haitian political consensus, which they had arrived at two years ago was ignored by the political community and i'm confident that they will put something similar back together within four to eight weeks. the international community then can ignore haiti they're going to have to support haiti in its path forward. but unlike in the past, when we tell them what to do, which never works because we don't know because we don't understand haiti. we must follow the haitians lead forward. >> it will certainly >> work better than our hi in this guy attempts in the past because if it's the haitians idea, they are going to work as hard as possible for the future of their country. and because they believe in it this wait for it. they've never believed in foreigners ways for ambassador daniel foot. thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you. brittany and ahead, a surprising connection on covered in two missing person's cases that had long gone cool. we have a cnn investigation next i'm sorry, body for knowing about actives, but giving 100% of them to my >> face, the fear no more body get active serums with hyaluronic acid that quench vitamin c that brightened and process their life. that even everyone new dove serum, body washes, get dove or get fomo 48% of americans don't get enough magnesium, which is vital for bone, nerve, and muscle 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