>> matthew chance from moscow, matthew, thank you. the news continues right here on cnn it's thursday, march 14, right now on cnn this morning, we're watching >> for donald trump to show up in a florida courtroom today. his lawyers want a judge to throw out his classified documents case plus the biden administration i in cuba's one ton of obey. but it'd be a haven for migrants fleeing the gangs, taking over haiti and the house, passing a bill to effectively ban tiktok but the senate may have other ideas all right, it is 05:00 a.m. in washington. here is a live look at denver. it's 03:00 a.m. mountain time out there. a winter storm is hammering the mile-high city. it could in fact, 60 million americans were got an update from our weatherman van dam tracking the storm shortly. it's gonna be near 80 degrees here in washington. meanwhile, good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us today. the campaign in the courtroom collide again a few hours from now, donald trump is expected to attend a hearing in his classified documents case his team will ask the judge to throw out the charges brought by special counsel, jack smith, new cnn reporting suggests they plan to make the argument that trump could legally keep any document he wanted. trump is not expected to speak inside the courtroom. i think it's probably safe to say we'll hear from him outside of it, but we'll have to say this comes as a former trump employee and a witness in the case spoke to cnn about just exactly what went down at mar-a-lago you noticed that he had been they were the boxes that were in the indictment, the white bankers boxes. that's what i remember loading. >> and did you have any idea at the time that there was potentially us national security secrets in his box? >> no clue. no. i had no clue. i mean, we were just taking them out of the escalate, piling them up. i remember they were all stacked on top of each other and then we're lifting them up to the pilots trump. >> discuss the case on newsmax last night, and he made this i guess it's a predictable assessment from trump anyway of the special counsel and. >> they were going after me viciously rating my house, everything that's because jack smith is an animal, is a total animal. he said he's deranged and my he really has. he's a deranged person okay. >> joining me now, nicholas johnson, he is publisher at axios. nick nicholas. good morning. good morning. doing great to be >> so let's this is the thing that interests me about this is we're now firmly in the general election. trump is the presumptive nominee biden is the presumptive nominee. and yet trump is continuing what had been a primary election campaign strategy of campaigning in the courtroom. smart. >> i mean, i think it takes away from what the original campaign is. if you look at what joe biden did after the state of the union varied jumma way of doing it, you do your state of the union hit the road, hit some swing page. you emphasize the points you made in that speech and the places that are going to matter in the fall, president trump, of course, taking a different approach sometimes because he has to like there's sometimes he has to be in court and i think that's going to be the split screen for this election. i think remember how these these, these legal cases way over the entire thing every minute he's in a courtroom is a minute he's not in a swing state. every dollar he spends on laura to the dollar he can't spend on advertising. and i was thinking probably president, former president's trump's mind, that that might fire up the base. but remember the baseline scenario here, president trump lost the last election to win the next election, he needs to get more votes than last time and is talking about these cases and sitting in these courtrooms, a way to get new voters to the trump cause i think that's an open question. >> well, i mean, yeah, that is fundamentally the question that i have here. and the documents case in particular is one that, you know i'm more focused on it in some ways only because when i talk to republican strategists about trump, it's the one they're often focused it's don as the one they say may present the most political danger to him only because it is something voters can clearly understand and have you come across this in your reporting? >> it's very true first from the polling >> standpoint, the number that jumps out to me in every poll. i mean, essentially this is a tossup race. it's four or five points, three points on each side the one thing that really jumps out at the number of republicans who support trump, who say they will change their vote, do they will not support trump if he's convicted or create great. so let's look at those kinds of cases. i think the documents case is probably the strongest case. the most interesting one. but remember, there's also a question of timing that is the case that is going slowest. the judge in that case, aileen cannon down in florida, arguably not shown a lot of interesting moving that one ahead, those dates continued to slip. so i think it's a question of whether that case even gets done before the election. i mean, again, like there's all these different things swirling around arabness and there's no easy answers right now. >> it's no, we are an an firmly and unprecedented territory for the next six months repeatedly remind everyone of here, let's talk nic about something else that is facing congress right now. the house overwhelmingly passed a bill that would effectively ban tiktok. it would force the chinese parent company to divest it we're not 100% sure where it goes in the senate, but the coalitions in the house of people who voted for it. very interesting. trump himself came out against it. basically, take a look at what he said recently about it. >> you don't think they should ban it right now? >> well, i didn't say anything other than you have to look at facebook. facebook is the enemy of the people. i think that something has to be done with facebook. the one thing i will say, i don't want facebook to get bigger because i think facebook is an equal threat. and that fluids with china >> so he's saying he thinks facebook, as, as big of a threat to united states as china is. >> i think this is a very interesting that politics from all over the map, republicans and democrats were progressives came down on all of this. it's also a fascinating story about the house. the house is practically on governable. there's very little getting done and all of a sudden this it's massive bill to ban the most largest social media that reunited sales through congress in one of the chamber's and just a matter of days, a lot of the folks who we talked to on the hill who are very interested in technology issue there, flabbergasted, they've been working on privacy legislation or ai legislation for months or even years. now this bill just shows up and now it's on its way to the senate. i think it speaks a little bit to the polite way, wacky dynamics in the house right now. but how this bill can get through an overt president trump's objections and has now, as you said, facing uncertainty >> yeah, senate. >> well, in some ways it's it's a simpler piece of legislation than many of those >> she's an easy answer, but then once you dig again to the actual legislation and how this might work, it gets much more complicated because of course, you know, congress isn't really focused on the details, sometimes, sometimes not. all right. nic robertson. nic, thank you very much for getting us started. i really appreciate it coming up next here. hunter biden rejecting a republican invitation to testify in public and tennessee congressman tim burchett is here to tell us what's next in that situation. and new details about secret talks between united states and iran on plus >> the house has gone a landslide forcing evacuations in california cnn, news, central today. and said, mr. 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against houthi targets, potentially a run that same time, they were talking through intermediaries to iran. now, the houthis was one of the topics of conversation we understand also a nuclear program. we know also that the us has been targeting iranian proxies in both iraq and syria as well. so a huge amount to be talked about now we understand they were also discussions about potential future engagements between the two and speaking in the future that hasn't happened as of now, we understand from this us official, the state departments, not surprisingly, would not be drawn on this, did not confirm it and just said, there are many channels for passing messages to iran and all of these channels have been focusing on telling iran to stop escalation kasie so paula, shifting gears for a moment to the war in gaza. we've learned that the first humanitarian shipment is on its way to this temporary aid port in gaza. this is happening is how we speak as we speak, experts though have worn it's just a fraction of what's actually needed what more do we know about this? >> so there's basically a three-pronged attack at this point to try and get enough aid or some aid into gaza. the land crossings are simply not enough. there is widespread criticism doesn't move israeli checks on the land crossings are not allowing enough through. so we have this ship world central kitchen. it should arrive later on thursday if it does keep to its timing. and we understand from this this ngo that they actually have some 400 locally employed staff in gaza. they have been on a gun as a beach for the last couple of days and nights working round the clock to build a makeshift peer. now we understand appears some 60 feet long at this point, and they are going to dock at the end of this make shift pier and take off the ship about half 1 million meals, which they say will then be put in their trucks and they will distribute it to northern gaza. and of course distribution is a big issue because it is so 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sunday at ten on cnn >> a live look at new york city on this thursday morning didn't donald trump's star and home alone two from that city at some point star might be overly generous. good morning. thanks for waking up with us. i'm kasie hunt, a >> courtroom will serve as donald trump's campaign trail stop again today. and there's a lot on the line for the former president. trump is expected to spend much of the day in that florida courthouse. he and his legal team trying to convince the judge to throw out his classified documents case trump offered up this defense when he spoke with newsmax >> there's something going on because they going after me viciously then all of a sudden it comes out that biden took ten times the number of documents that i did and i took them very legally >> trump did score at least a partial legal victory on wednesday when fulton county, georgia judge scott mcafee tossed out six of the counts that were against him in his election subversion case. a number still remain, however, judge mcafee also promising to rule this week on whether da fani willis can move forward with her prosecution or whether she'll face disqualification over the affair she had with her lead prosecutor >> i gave myself a deadline because i knew everyone wanted an answer and i'll tell you an order like this takes time to write there's a lot that means i have to go through a lot on the line for the former president today here with us to talk about it. marcus childress, former january 6 investigative counsel and maga tall, if the director of the syracuse university institute for democracy, journalism, and citizenship, welcome to you both thanks for being here. marcus, let's start with the nuts and bolts of what's going on today. does he have to be in this courtroom? is this a choice? what are we going to see play out? >> so he doesn't have to be in the courtroom. this is really a motions arguing about law two issues really want about the unconstitutional vagueness of the statutes at play here. and another one about the presidential records act. both are motions to dismiss, but they're not evidentiary hearing like we might have seen in fulton county where the judge might be asking for evidence. so i don't expect that the program president is going to testify because these are issues a law. and so he doesn't need to be there. but maybe he's hoping that he can have some type of impact on the judge as she's here in the evidence or hearing the arguments and making her decision ultimately, how much of this could play into an effort to delay the case? >> i think that's that's that's his go-to playbook is to delay, delay, delay, even no matter what comes out today, i would expect that there might be some type of appeal, especially if it's ruled against the special counsel and any type of appeal. i think the former president would declares a victory and it would further delay the trial schedule because you have to have to rule on these dispositive motions before you can get to trial or even planned for a trial so margaret, let's talk about the politics of that reality. i mean, i've said this before, but i've talked to some smart republicans who think this is actually potentially the most dangerous of the trials at, for donald trump, just because it's pretty easy for people to understand like you're not supposed to take classified documents home with you. the trump team is trying to muddy that those waters right? in terms of their arguments today that trying to say no, actually, i'm allowed to take whatever i want as the president. >> right? >> what do you make of that strategy and what do you make of the fact that we're now in the general election campaign, does campaigning in the courthouse still make the same amount of sense as it did in the primary. >> i think it's really interesting point because of course, after sealing the nomination earlier this week, donald trump's have gills can be a little bit different up until now, all of his courtroom appearances have been campaigning backdrops in a primary campaign helped him to rally support and seal that nomination. this is a different phase of the campaign. now he may be messaging to some both his own base and some potential swing voters who believed that the system is out to get them. that's sort of his language. there. they're really not just out to me, they're out to get used. so that may work with some segment of voters, but he is in a different mode now he's trying to persuade the judge who's the judge that he appointed, and he's trying to change or delay the outcome of this case. i think the broad strategy, if you look at the way the former president has conducted himself, as he always wants to be shaping the narrative. you always want to be driving the narrative. if you're there, it's much easier to drive the narrative than if you sit it out. >> yeah. is there anything marcus intimidating are designed to be intimidating about him sitting in the courtroom for the judge i would hope not. i mean, i'd hope that the judge can be an independent arbiter and not be intimidated or even impacted by a defendant sitting at the table. but i mean, the reality is, i think there could be an impact, right? it's the former president of the united states. i do want to touch on a point about the former president making this argument that everyone's out to get him, i think the special counsel's pushing back on that his filings by saying this is about accountability for all anyone who would have taken these these unauthorized or these classified documents would have been subject to the espionage act, just like the former president who wasn't present at the time when he took the documents is being held accountable under the statute. so i think there's a battle of narratives as you just said, with the president trying to drive the narrative and the special counsel trying to draw them there but through his motions, yes. >> so speaking of the fact that he wasn't president any longer, i just wanna remind everyone, trump employee number five, who's listed in this indictment, one of the witnesses in this case spoke to cnn earlier this week. let's just watch a little bit of that interview and remember what we learned earlier this week. the following >> day, when we're how walk and he's like, hey, by the way, it's a secret. don't tell anybody waltz coming. >> and well, why? >> well, he needs he needs me to find something out before he gets here. oh, what's that? >> he needs to be done. you know, how long the camera footage is saved at mar-a-lago. and i'm like oh, that's that's so tells you that walt coming that it's a secret that no one has to know, and that they're >> looking to see how long the surveillance footage goes back. >> that's what he needed to find out by the time walt got there. >> so now it seems really odd to me >> so of course the walton that clip walt nauta, who is tied up in all this very close trump aide who was involved. i mean, when i hear that i mean, it sounds like a cover-up. right. i mean, what how do you think this plays politically in the murder, someone who was legally you think this means and it also sounds like he came forward to do this interview because he didn't think he was going to be able to be anonymous. you just didn't believe that that would be possible in today's climate. so it's all very interesting. it also tells me that there are many people who worked for for the former president or at mar who observe things who weren't comfortable with what they had to say and are available to talk about it when reached. but so far we what we have seen is that people's views on this are really baked in. and that most people have made up their minds about how they feel about donald trump and joe biden i don't know if it's a game changer in any way, if it would significantly move voters who thought they were committed to donald trump away from trump. the one thing that we've heard consistently in polling and focus groups is that the idea of a conviction. some voters say would be pivotal to them. if this case is the path that leads to that before november, it's possible we'll get have an impact and i think that's why you're seeing the delay strategy. >> yeah. i mean, but again, it's how likely is it do you think we see this actually go to trial before november >> it's looking tougher and tougher by the de i mean, the more that we're having these evidentiary and legal motions hearings before i think it's hard to set it actual trial schedule, like we're saying, the election interference case in dc, i do want to touch on the point again, right about the not thinking that his identity, identity will be redacted. i think that's a real concern right now. there's a motion before the court about a reconsideration motion to keep names redacted and not from going public. and i think what you saw from that interview is maybe a fear that my name might begin getting released. and another, another point is that look, when you put charging documents, the indictments, i never included all the facts on the indictment, and so i think the former president does have some fear here that at this goes to trial, there will be additional facts at it to the record like we saw in that interview that are in the filings that aren't in these pleadings because you don't necessarily put every fact that you just put enough to get through that indictment hey, my face. yeah. no, that's really interesting perspective. so let's shift gears and talk a little bit about what happened in georgia because i think it can be kind of confusing, right? the headlines are this judge has thrown out six of these counts, however, quite a few of them still remain in georgia. margaret, how do you think this i mean i will say the water has gotten so muddy around the georgia case because of all these questions, i guess it's just an extension of the strategy we've been talking about here, right? delay things, muddy the waters, raised questions about the entire enterprise. what do you think that this means politically, how the judges handling this? >> yeah, it's a really interesting question and i've watched laura is affiliated around trump in those coming from a different perspective, really arguing the merits of it. obviously, it doesn't obliterate the georgia case by any means. but the question is, does it slow it down significantly? and is that what the judge what the judge was signaling and what all of his actions have signaled so far, it's not our their merits to the case. it is. does this make it even less likely that it would also reach a trial stage before the end of this year and before the end of the election, where would be the most relevant, right? >> and it goes down to timing again, and the da has a decision to make whether she wants to press forward with a 35 out of the 41 counts or maybe get a soup proceeding indictment which the judge said could be pretty easy to get because this went more to the legal elements and not to the facts alleged. so you could probably have some more specificity and go back to the grand jury and get and get an indictment. >> this interesting twist in georgia where the governor, i think just yesterday he signed this clarifying legislation which could help pave the way for this state commission to be empowered to actually remove prosecutors. so there are some questions now about whether that's another tool in the mix, another tool and why the de a might just press forward with the 35 counts and not trying to delay anything else because there are these pressures from the outside on this trial, correct? yeah. >> what a mess. ok. mark atallah and marcus childress. thank you, guys both very much. killing cruciate it >> all right. coming up next a hard no. from hunter biden, the president's son, rejecting an offer to testify in public. we're going to ask congressman tim burchett where things go from here when he joins us live plus lionel 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chairman james comer about the committee's invitation for him to appear at a public hearing last month, hunter spoke at a closed-door deposition before the oversight and judiciary committees about his foreign business deals things as part of the house gop's larger efforts in pursuing president biden for potential impeachment. house judiciary chairman jim jordan told cnn that they still plan on holding a hearing next week as part of the inquiry into the president, joining me now republican congressman tim burchett of tennessee is a member of the oversight committee. congressman. thanks very much for being here. >> thank you for having me, man >> so congressman, what what is the response or what do you think they're response should be to hunter biden considering i mean, he had previously said pretty directly. he in fact demanded a public hearing and now he's saying no. >> well, i think his lawyers advising what to do here. i think probably legally it's the right decision politically. i think it's the wrong decision. i think they're trying to run the clock out. obviously, you're running up against election years a divided congress. and so, you know i think his lawyers just advise him on those grounds and that's what they're doing. you are correct. he did say in the beginning that was the holdup. i want a public hearing. i want to public hearing. and then he marched in with his lawyer and his entourage for, you know, a little cameo in one of the committee meetings. and then when marjorie taylor greene is turned to speak, he got up and walked out. and so, you know, it's just it's political theater, ma'am, i mean, i guess he probably doing a documentary. i think somebody said so it's going to make forbid writings, but honestly, i think that it's you know, i have a saying in politics and it's about, and i'm guilty of this as well. americans, one-third pizzas in 30 minutes or less, and that's about our i've got my attention span. and so we're going to move on >> that. yeah. you know it and i know it because when the cia in writing show that hunter biden is not a hot issue, they're going to go on something else it's just the way for the record i know that when it comes, it's still an issue, but the next couple of weeks, it's congress, man, they're going to do something else that's outrageous and you all are going to yard, going to magnify it and i get that and that's what i take about the media. i mean, it's it's in a fund to watch how it goes. so because i'm sometimes at the brunt of ural's by an ad. so i did you have, you have had some interesting times over the course of last year. i mean, speaking of media attention, that hunter biden's attorney here it said that the proceedings that you have the impeachment proceedings are not a serious oversight proceeding and are in fact an attempt to resuscitate the moribund inquiry with a made for the right-wing media circus act. >> do you think that's >> what you guys are doing in congress? how do you respond to mr. lowell? >> no ma'am i mean, he's hitting all the high notes there. i'm sure that's again his focus group shouting. that's what the market wants. but the reality is he does not want to allow his client to appear with tony bobulinski and all these other people. and bobulinski, ma'am, in those closed-door meetings? i was impressed with him. i leaned over to the stenographer a lady who was making some notes or whatever beside me acid as it does he have any notes in she said no, apparently doesn't. and he was remembering things. it was remembering exact dates, times, places, amounts of money, and locations and these were all over the world. and so i do not believe that hunter wants to appear with these folks because his democrats on the committee will have a hard time defending you know, if they'll be coming in from all angles in the shrapnel we fly. and that's in his attorney, frankly, won't be he up there to telling, you know, say yes, no, or don't respond kind of thing. and your emotions get carried away and you, and you get ticked off. and that's what, that's what, you know, both sides want. is their opposition to get mad and get up there and start responding the stuff that they shut. and so i as attorney is probably as the incorrectly but it's rules for thee and not for me. is basically a remarkably candid assessment of what is actually going on in these in these hearings, sir look at the end of the day, all of this is not aimed at hunter is aimed at his father or the president, the united states. joe biden. and there is the ongoing impeachment inquiry at your colleague, ken buck, announced earlier this week he's going to leave at the end of the week of next week congress entirely after he had announced who's going to retire. but this abrupt leaving and was new. he told reporters quote, we've taken impeachment and made it into a social media issue as opposed to a constitutional concept. is he right? >> well, i'm not an attorney, but there's a lot workings going on behind him, bucks a good buddy of mine. he was our sitting side-by-side on january 6 when it all went down, matter of fact, we were i was the very last house member delayed the house floor on january 6, and buck was right in the mix there. so he's a he's a dear friends. so i would never question what he said because he is an attorney and he he gets it probably a little more than i do. i'm more about i'm not an attorney. i'll just leave it. >> but but there's a lot going on behind the scenes there, man, you know it lauren boebert running and met seats switching in the end of that district, this kind of puts >> her at a bad position and there's a lot of things going on behind the scenes. there that are have very little to do with the constitution, although i do not question congressman bucks raisins and motives for leaving he's a family the family wants to get there you'll see him probably is one of your colleagues very soon. >> so you think he is retiring or leaving congress? early specifically to prevent lauren boebert from being a congress >> i don't know if that's tension, but there's a lot of talk of that. you know, i like i said, i couldn't question is is honestly an easy ease. he's a he's a very moral decent human being. and i hate to seem leave. i really do, but there's a lot going on behind the scenes. i mean, this is like this is a made-for-tv movie, ma'am and it's probably won't be on the hallmark channel eight or there's a lot. right. wants to call this places swamp ma'am. a swamp is a beautiful ecosystem created by god you know, step waters flow in and you got all the animals going on around it. >> this is a sewer. it's just it all flows in and nothing flows out. washington dc is just an open sewer and it continues to not disappoint me in that in that regard. >> but when you put it that way, i will say that the homework the hallmark channel is a family channel. so not going to disagree there. sir. you mentioned january 6 being on the floor with ken buck, you being the last person to leave the chamber, have you been surprised? at how public perception, especially in your party around january 6, has switched to the point that the former president is saying one of his first acts in office would be if he's reelected, if donald trump is re-elected, would be to pardon the people that he calls january 6 hostages no because i think it was handled poorly from the start, ma'am i had >> contacted capitol hill police multiple times about what i saw about people i saw in the tunnel that we're doing podcast or whatever they were back then i'm not sure what the hipsters called it back then and it was in our requested capitol police said, hey, i was there. i'd like to tell you who i saw, what i saw him doing. and they said, yeah, we'll get back to you two weeks later. they did not get back to me again. i contacted them again and then i'm yeah. and it just went on with that and i had to go on my own volition. rodney davis, actually, he's no longer in congress was over the committee that oversaw that and allow me to view the tapes in the tunnel and i pinpointed and i showed the person who was doing it and i still was not ever asked about it and that was one of the key components, if you remember, they were saying they were on somebody was broadcasting, telling everybody where we were, which in fact they were. in fact, it was a member of the media. and and then the january 6 commission, when they did not allow then speaker mccarthy to rightfully a point. i believe jim jordan and some other people to it. and speaker pelosi did something that's never been done since i've been in congress are since they knew they, even the old timers next, some of those guys don't think came over on the mayflower. they said they were not allowed to put republicans that they were choosing. and that's why she picked adam kinzinger and what does this >> mean that you think that the people that you saw that chase you off the floor that day should get off now, i know. >> once they crossed those barriers, they are breaking the law. >> but >> should they be denied due process? should they still be in jail in a washington hell hole? waiting on trial, which they still are. >> that is not >> a speedy trial. and i had people from are you wishing between the people they're being held before trial and the people that have already been convicted because what trump is sad is that those have been convicted. he would pardon >> it'll people that are going to be convicted, obviously. and there, you know, of course, are sad miami, you got to realize you had the black lives matters marches, and all those riots that went across the country, millions upon millions of dollars and destruction in very little people. and there was, nobody was using any facial recognition to identify any of those rioters standing on top of burning police cars, flipped and police cars over burning, burning courthouses, things like that, and no facial recognition on those folks. but then on the january 6, so i say justice should be applied blindly and it should be across the board. everybody should under the same rule and they weren't and that's just in you're going to have a hard time. there's a vast majority of the population who does not trust the legal system and when things like this happen, they continue to do that. and you know, it and two in it, it was just a horrible situation. i feel like you had some really good people that were there that got caught up in it and they broke the law and they should be accountable. but i'll tell you this. we had knoxville ian's that left before it even happened in posted things on facebook. you know that ai was there, you know, whatever and it was before i need the violence and are any law-breaking and the fbi showed up at their house. and to me that's that's a very agile, very chilling effect. and i think they were wrong. i think they overstep their bounds all right congressman tim burchett. congressman. thanks so much for the time at this early hour, especially where you are. thanks very much >> well, i'm sure i've got plenty there that you can use the rest of the day >> i probably got a few things. i appreciate it. >> see you soon, ma'am, it's been all right. it's time now for sports, the chicago bulls rush their way past the indiana pacers in an overtime thriller, carolyn manno has this morning's bleacher report. carolyn, good morning. hey, morning. if you went to bet early, we got to this was a nail-biter with a clutch performance from chicago six time all-star 12 lead changes in the fourth quarter of this game. but the biggest shock coming with less than three seconds but on the clock and the bowls down by two, demar derozan swishing the fade-away jumper to force overtime, leaving pacers fans in disbelief, chicago we'll go riding that momentum into the extra period. derozan continuing to hit big shot after being shot, he went for a season-high 46 points, 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