street to the antisemitic when they swarmed goalie, that's a kosher restaurant owned by an american israeli chef, michael salomone of. pennsylvania's governor says the motive here is clear. >> what we saw last night was not peaceful protest. what we saw last night, in my opinion, was blatant antisemitism. the purposeful gathering of a mob outside of a restaurant simply because it is owned by a jewish person. that's antisemitism, plain and simple. >> now, governor shapiro said the protests like this have a parallel, kristallnacht, the nazi riot that targeted jewish businesses in 1938 and was a harbinger of the holocaust which then exterminated millions of jews. the goldie episode is the latest in incidents like this of incidents of naked antisemitism across the country. indians, florida, a -- center at the university of florida campus was covered and antisemitic graffiti. in brooklyn, ohio, vandals painted swastikas on graves in a jewish cemetery. and on friday night, right here on this show, we interviewed congressman adam smith, whose home was marred by pro-palestinian vandals. now, peaceful protests, even passionate protest, is an american right. but smith told us that he sees an overlap between these tactics and that of another group. >> these are the same tactics we saw in the most extreme form on january 6th. these tactics are not accidental, they are an attempt to intimidate people into silence and an attempt to overthrow democratic norms. >> today, there is outrage in some corners of the democratic party because of what some on the left will not do without hesitation, apparently. and that is condemn hamas. without them immediately mentioning israel. listen to this exchange, for example, the sunday between cnn's dana bash and progressive caucus chair camilla dai paul. >> have you talked about it since october 7th? >> oh, absolutely. and i've condemned what hamas is done, and i've condemned all the actions. as lately the rape, of course. but i think we have to remember that israel is a democracy, that is why they are a strong ally of ours. and if they do not comply with international humanitarian law, they are ringing themselves to a place that makes it much more difficult strategically for them to be able to build the kinds of allies, to keep public opinion. >> with respect, i was just asking about the women, and you turned it back to israel. i'm asking about hamas, in fact. >> i already answer your question, dana. i said it's horrific. >> now, it's jayapal's own colleagues that say what the washington democrat is saying there gives a both sides to sexual violence, at least when those victims are israeli. it's a chilling thought only exceeded by the reality of what hamas actually did to these women and girls on october 7th. hamas does not want the world to know what it did and how depraved their actions were. according to the state department, it may be part of the reason why last week's fragile truce ultimately fell apart. >> the fact that it seems one of the reasons they don't want to turn women over that they've been holding hostage and the reason this pause fell apart is they don't want those women to be able to talk about what happened to them during their time in custody. >> tonight, cnn's telling some of those awful, awful stories. and you're about to hear from a paramedic who talk to our own jake tapper and described in explicit very difficult to hear terms what he saw. >> i was lying on the floor, lying on the bed. -- on the floor lying on their stomach. their pants are pulled down towards their knees, and there's a bullet wound on or back side of her neck, back side of her head, puddle around her head, the remains of -- lower part of her back. >> joining me now from washington is the democratic senator from pennsylvania, john fetterman. senator, thank you for joining us tonight. what is your reaction to the emergence of this anti-semitic rally in the middle of philadelphia? >> it's appalling. it's appalling. i mean, this is certainly not the first time an episode of antisemitism here. and it's just run amok. and i've spoken to a lot of different people from the jewish community across pennsylvania. and they are horrified. and they are actually feeling unsafe as well. and now, you have a mob attacking a jewish restaurant in the middle of the afternoon in downtown philadelphia. it's unacceptable. >> senator, on a related note, your colleague in the house, congresswoman pramila jayapal, she was asked about the pervasive sexual violence we have learned about that happened on october 7th committed by hamas terrorists. and she deflected basically and talked about how israel is fighting this war. i don't know if you are able to see her answer to that question, but did you think it was appropriate? >> well, i saw that. and i certainly have a lot of respect for my colleague in the house. but i also do believe it's important we call it what it was. you know, the systematically used rape as part of their war, in the terrorized and brutalized israeli women, and especially young girl, and raped them, and after, that they would actually shoot them in the back of their head. and i have a 12 year old daughter, and those are the kinds of victims here on october 7th. and we've got to call it out. and we've got to acknowledge that. and why you would not want to protest that versus, i mean, a jewish restaurant, but that's part of the point i made on twitter. >> in your party, on the left, this is something that it seems like people are really struggling with on the left. is there a problem here? does the left have a problem with antisemitism in his ranks? >> again, i don't speak for anybody in the senate, certainly not in the house, i only speak to myself. and i'm very clear on what side i'm at as well, too. and i absolutely do and acknowledge that we must acknowledge the incredible loss of innocent life in a palestine as well. and i have met with statewide palestinian and muslim and arab communities all across pennsylvania. and they've all been incredibly thoughtful conversations as well, too. and i agree we must have those kinds of conversations and take this into account. but i also believe that israel has the right and they actually should destroy hamas, because that really is -- hamas is anathema to peace and a true two state solution. >> i do want to talk about exactly that. because i mean, we are talking here about how the protests are being carried out across the united states. but there are some real questions about what's happening on the ground in gaza, about the really extraordinary civilian death toll that has happened as a result of this war. do you believe that anything that israel has done in these six weeks of fighting has amounted to a war crime? >> of course not, of course not. and it's, like, let's not forget what hamas started. they brought the first cease-fire, and then they attacked israel and murdered over 1200 innocent, it's women, children, babies, everything, and brutalized in the most unspeakable sort of ways. so that really is the ultimate, you know, criminal war kinds of -- this is absolutely an unequivocal attack to destroy israel. and we must remember that's how it started all of this. >> but are you comfortable, senator, for the number of palestinians who have lost their lives, 7000 children, 15 or 16,000 civilians dead, but you believe israel is doing enough to minimize civilian casualties? >> no. you know, one death is too many. it's a tragic. i don't value any palestinian child life any more than -- any less than my own child, too. it's heartbreaking and it's awful. but i do fundamentally believe that israel must destroy hamas to achieve long changing conditions that allow for priests to prosper. >> quickly on the issue of ukraine, another major conflict unfolding right now. funding is up in the air in the congress. and the economists just a couple of days ago ran this headline, putin seems to be winning the war. do you think russia is now winning in ukraine? >> well, i don't necessarily believe putin is winning. and if you mean by winning, you mean that he's had 300,000 to 400,000 soldiers killed, and ukrainians fought back bravely. and you know, i do believe that we absolutely have to step and stand with ukraine. and i can never understand why my republican colleagues in the senate are trying to torpedo that. and i, everybody, at least my own vote's gonna stand on the side of israel, and ukraine. because both nations are kind of the fight against these kinds of evil, you know, nations. and we must be standing with our friends that stand with democracy, that stand with the kind of -- our values. >> i want to ask you now about something you've been pretty vocal about. this is your colleague in the senate, new jersey senator bob menendez. your team actually put out this video today, a cameo of george santos -- >> oh, no no. oh no. >> sending a message to bob menendez. >> hey, bobby. look, i don't think i need to tell you but these people that want to make you get in trouble and want to kick you out and make you run away, you make them put up or shut up. you stand-your-ground, sir, and don't get bogged down by all the heaters out there. stay strong. merry christmas. >> if democrats don't expel him from the senate, as you've been calling for, it is your party forfeiting the moral high ground here when it comes to corruption? >> i don't know. it's really strange to me. you know, i'm not anti santos. it's just, like, of course he's done some really, you know, bizarre kind of lying and everything. but if you have to -- if you expel somebody like, you know, george santos, how can you allow somebody like, you know, senator menendez remain in the senate as well, too? because i promise you one of the major differences between representative, former representative santos and senator menendez's $300 million of munitions, you know, with egypt as well, too, you know. and santos is never accused of being a foreign agent as well. there's a lot more serious kinds of issues here. and we really need to expel menendez in order just to be fair. >> what was the idea behind getting santos to do that cameo? >> oh, i don't know. [laughter] i don't know. we had so much fun during our campaign with dr. oz. it's ironic that now both of them seem to be around new jersey. but yeah. >> all right, senator fetterman standby for me. i want to ask you at the presidential race, and also about a possible second trump term. plus, as the former president attacks obamacare on the campaign trail, again, there is something he should keep in mind. and a former republican house speaker warning moderate republicans about voting against a biden impeachment inquiry. ♪ ♪ ♪ in psychology, sigmund freud first coined a projection for when somebody puts their feelings or impulses or insecurities on someone else to avoid confronting or answering for them. it is a quote defense mechanism, attributing one own unacceptable or just to another. since 2015, it has been common for donald trump to project on to others, especially his opponents. now, he's done with everything from classified documents to ukraine to vladimir putin, and trump's 2024 campaign now is no different. here is how he is responding to accusations that he is the underground -- undemocratic candidate. >> joe biden is not the defender of american democracy, joe biden is the destroyer of american democracy. >> reporter: remember, donald trump is facing four indictments and 91 felony counts, some of which actually accused him of acting against american democracy. and it's also worth noting that, when i spoke with one of the handful of former trump cabinet members to actually support a second trump term, this is what happened. >> as someone who is interested in, can you point to anything that donald trump has done to defend american democracy? >> i can point to anything that he has done that is a threat to democracy. >> reporter: now, in this next example, donald trump still, still does not have a health care plan. so he is starting to reject the lack of a plan on to democrats. once again, vowing to repeal obamacare. but, remember, the last campaign he also made the same promise in the same vague ways. >> i will ask congress to convene a special session so that we can repeal and replace. we're going to have a health care plan that is going to be second to none. we have two plans coming in. >> coming up in a very short period of time. >> the plan is coming out of the next four weeks. >> we'll be announcing that in about two months, maybe less. >> it might be sunday, but it is going to be very soon. >> reporter: it's been some years since some of those clips, and still nothing. no plan, no proposal for obamacare, and, yet, now the numbers show that obamacare may even be more popular than ever. so, what exactly to the polls say? a cnn senior data reporter harry enten is here with me at the wall with more. so, harry, it used to be that obamacare was like a political slur. now what? >> let's just take a look at a mini timeline and go back, not all the way back, but we'll go back to when trump was first elected. these are the affordable care act. look at this, more voters unit negatively than positively. during that skinny repeal or place, or that? that will idea back in july of 2017? all of the sudden you see the views shifted a little bit, 50% positive. look at where we were in the last kff poll, 59% positive versus just 40, just 40% negative. the views have shifted tremendously. the affordable care act is about as popular as ever, actually. >> reporter: democrats know it. out of they been using this to their advantage? >> yeah, take a look at this party trust on this. which party is trusted more on the affordable health care? look at this. 19-point edge for democrats, they would much rather be playing the 2024 campaign on health care than say on inflation, rising costs, look at that where the gop has a plus nine point advantage over the democrats. this is where they want to be playing. democrats love this idea of trump going after the affordable care act because the fact is there more trust in on it then republicans are. >> reporter: it was not always like this. back in 2012 when obama was running for reelection, it was a potentially a liability. but will it be possible now, here we are it is going to be 2024, for this to be a political asset again for democrats? >> i think this is the question. take a look at the most important issue for presidential candidates look about. the vast amount of majorities say inflation. look at health, care is down at a percent. the real question, abby, is can democrats, in fact, get that health care boost up. it would much rather be that than inflation because, again, look here, that 19 point edge that democrats have in health care versus the gop plus nine-point edge, inflation, and that right now is the most important issue is for the reason why -- >> reporter: also, by the way, it explains why so many republicans are scratching their head like why are he talking about this? because this is most important issue to voters. in these midterm cycles, what have we seen about health care, has worked for democrats in tough midterm cycles when they're not expected to do. we'll >> also tell you, abby, i'm scratching my head. i don't know what the heck he's doing. i look at the polls, i have no idea what he's doing. and, you know, you go back to 2018. remember, health care was the most important issue for 41% of voters. democrats won this group by 52 points. this is where democrats are going to play. they don't want to be playing on inflation, what donald trump right now is doing is political malpractice, in my mind, looking at the polls. democrats are saying please, please, please let's talk about this because it has worked for them in the past. we'll see if it works for them come 2024. >> reporter: of course, this is in the wake of trump attempting to repeal obamacare but have no replacement, which did not ultimately work. harry? >> you think you learn his lesson, but apparently not. >> reporter: apparently not. good to have you here on the show, thank. you i want to now bring back in senator frenchman in a moment, but first, today, a startling warning from former congresswoman liz cheney about what happens if donald trump convinces americans to put him right back into the white house. >> do you believe, if donald trump or elected next, year that he would try to stay in office beyond a second term? that he would never leave office? >> there's no question. >> do you think he tried to stay in power forever? >> absolutely. >> reporter: this could very well be a rematch between president biden and donald trump. lots of questions now about what a second donald trump term would look like. do you think that democracy will survive a second trump term? >> gosh, i sure hope so. i will certainly be, if that does happen, a second term of trump, i will absolutely be using my platform and position to fight back and push back against that just as i did as lieutenant governor of pennsylvania when they were lying and trying to malign our election in pennsylvania back in 2020. but i don't believe we're going to have to face that, i really do fundamentally think that joe biden will absolutely win and he will definitely win in pennsylvania, and i do believe that anyone who wins pennsylvania is going to be the next president. i will make this call right here on this network that joe biden will absolutely win pennsylvania. trump cannot win pennsylvania if president biden is on the ballot. >> reporter: one of your colleagues in the house, dean phillips, disagrees with that. he has said that he believes joe biden is the only democrat capable of losing to trump in large part because he is 81. there is no part of you that is concerned that 81 is simply too old to perform the duties of president of the united states? >> i don't know if the gelato guy is really the expert. you know, if you're really going to talk about age i think the president is rounding the bases on 78 and probably, what is he, to 65, to 70 in terms of pounds? my money is going to go on joe biden. i think he is going to have a second term here as president. >> reporter: are you concerned by the polls that show other are publicans, if the nominee is not trump even, beating president biden? does that concern you at all? >> i'm not worried about those polls. thankfully, the election is almost a year away. you know, the polls right in front of my election said that i was, they called me as losing by two or three points to dr. oz. and we actually beat the brakes off them by five points. so, i don't really put it much in the polls, but i do put everything into president biden. i'm proud of him, he's done an amazing job as president, especially now the way he has handled the situation here in israel. i can't imagine what this would be going if trump was actually the president in this kind of circumstances, and i'm proud to stand with him. truthfully, i want to add one more emphasis. i will never understand why any democrats are saying or being negative about president biden. again, i don't understand anything other than you want to help trump win the presidency. if you're going to say those kind of negative things, just write a check for donald trump. it will be a lot easier. >> reporter: so the white house is on the economy tried to coin the term bidenomics, for the reporting is that right now house democrats have basically abandoned that term, even though we should acknowledge the deep gdp report recently shows a 5%. growth do think the five -- term itself, bidenomics, is not working for voters? >> again, i am president of joe biden and he's also addressed inflation. you talk about how many millions of new jobs during his time, and he is gone through the pandemic, and he's handled israel an