and you might get ahead. >> thank you for joining us.. capitol hill custodians waste no time erasing any memory of george santos. that is tonight on news line. good evening, today, an era has come to an end. the locks have been changed and his name has been removed from the halls of congress. and george santos goes back to wherever he came from. more on his exit and his lies in a few minutes. but first, the constitution versus donald trump. two separate legal loss essay that the former president does not have immunity. breaking tonight, a federal judge tossed a motion to make election subversion charges against donald trump disappear. the judge ruling with precision quote the court can not conclude that the constitution cloaks former president's with salute immunity for any federal crimes that they committed while in office. also today, a ruling on the former president and the january 6th violence that he unleashed. it is a decision that may set off a chain reaction for our democracy. today a federal appeals panel says that lawsuits filed against the former president can move forward. the lawsuits were filed by members of congress, police officers and others who were injured in that capitol attack and the crux of the ruling rests on what is considered official. or unofficial. donald trump says his words fall under the former. >> we fight, we fight like hell and if you don't fight like hell we won't have a country anymore. we will try to give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. so let's walk down pennsylvania avenue. >> but the court is not so sure. they rejected trump's blanket assertion that simply being president makes anything that he does an official act. quote, the office of the precedency as an institution is about will occupy it next and campaigning to gain that office is not an official act of the office. now, quite predictably the trump echo chamber offered up a cya or call it a cyt. >> all of these suits are absurd, should be dismissed. any lawyer who files them should be sanctioned t. is all part of the law fair to take down trump. >> look, this is not a weaponized deep state judiciary exacting election revenge on donald trump. just take a look at the make up of the appeals panel. one barack obama appointee, one bush appointee and one trump appointee. not just any trump appointee, white house counsel for the former president. he put on the bench in 2017. now, the panel held back on ruling about the merits of this case. if trump were campaigning or presidenting as it were. but that will be settled at the trial to decide if trump is liable for the physical and emotional anguish suffered by people like james blessinggame, the police officer that stood on that day in the breech. >> it looked like a sort of horde of zombies, people as far as you can see. just salivating and i looked to my left and to my right and there are eight or nine of us and i am thinking, [beep] >> i never been called a -- [beep] -- to my face, might have been called one but not to my face. that streak ended on january 6th. i was called a -- [beep] >> i was called traitor, if i pulled my gun out and started shooting i am throwing care seen cariseen on it. if i do i will not make it out alive. i don't have enough bullets. >> pam is among the many who participated in the january 6th insurrection, she served two months in federal prison for her role in the riot and pam joins me right now. thank you for being here. can you tell us what is your reaction to this ruling? no immunity for trump from civil suits, do you plan on suing in light of this? >> absolutely. yes. i was trampled on, they pulled my shoulder, cut my knee f it was not for the capitol police officers, i would be dead. and trump is responsible. >> if you were to sue, do you worry about the backlash from his supporters? maybe people you even know because you were among them at one point. >> no, not when you are doing the right thing. backlash does not bother me. i already gotten enough already. so, no, that would not bother plea at all. >> so, while all of this is going on, you know, former president trump he is facing multiple criminal trials, but, in spite of it all he is the front-runner in the republican presidential race right now. you were such a strong supporter at a certain point that you were at the capitol, it landed you in jail, do you have a sense of what keeps people so loyal to him and what it might take for them to change their minds as you did? >> well, as a lot of people are starting to recognize, trump is a cult leader. he turned mega into a cult. he gaslights them and gives out a lot of lies. first he started with the bombing and he keeps doing that. but actually i don't think we need to be afraid of trump as much as we need to be afraid of the republican party. if you are familiar with 2020, i am sorry, 2025 project 2025 that is what you need to be afraid of. whoever becomes president the party now wants a dictator in there and we are going to lose our democracy. >> you said earlier that you believe that trump is responsible. what is it, in your view, that he did that makes him culpable for what happened on january 6th? >> he knew the election was not stolen. why is he having everybody go down to the capitol? see, when i got there, the crowd was so big, i could not get through. so, i walked around and i asked what else was going on that day. they said i think i heard trump will be at the capitol. as i am walking there, i am thinking why are we going to the capitol, he just had a talk. so, i feel like he had it all planned. he wanted the people to attack the capitol. that is just my feeling, but, no, he is responsible because he said march down there, he tries to use peacefully, he said no go fight like hell is what he said and he was talking to the wrong people, they took it literally >> do you think trump will ultimately face any consequences for his actions if they are legal or criminal? >> i believe so. i think we can have a lot of faith in jack smith. he knows what he is doing. he has the receipts, you know, and i think it is, sadly, we will have to wait until court for people to start realizing that trump has lied about everything and trump is a criminal and he needs to have his day in court to be proven what we already know. that, he is a criminal. he knows it. >> this election can come down to president biden or donald trump, again, who will you be voting for? >> well, biden, of course. we have no choice. >> and if trump were listening what would you say? >> retire. get honest. it is time to stop. you are too old now. not too old but i don't think anybody can say anything to him, that is why i am really hoping that jack smith can bring the receipts and the proof and have him put in prison never what he has done to this nation. >> pam, thank you very much for joining us and sharing that perspective. >> thank you. tonight in washington, capitol hill is reflecting on the brief political life of republican congressman george santos. there is his political obituary. a son and a grandson of apparently fake september 11 and holocaust survivors, he was a devoted man of myths, he achieved a long and completely fabricated career as a football star, gold man sach's workhorse and a chairman and a broadway producer of "spider-man the musical" he graduated from a high school and college that were not the high school and college which he claimed and in his brief time in congress he personally introduced 40 bills, two of which were named after pop stars nicky manoge and taylor swift. none were brought to the floor. despite the legislature failures he did achieve history. he became just the third person since the civil war to be expelled by the united states congress. and in his last words at the capitol they were, quote, to help with this place. santos is survived by 112 republicans who probably did not like him very much but they voted to keep him and 105 republicans who really did not like him and voted to kick him out. santos leaves behind a loud soundtrack of his most infamous hits. >> good morning. >> i have seen how socialism destroys people's lives because my grandparents survived the holocaust. >> . >> my mom was a september 11 survivor. >> a good prep school, it was prep in the bronx. >> i actually went to school on a volleyball scholarship. >> but i put myself through college and got an nba. >> when i was in. >> did you guys . >> i founded my own nonprofit organization. >> i sacrificed both of ply knees and got knee replacements playing volleyball. >> it was summer of 2021 on 5th avenue and 55th. i was robbed by two men. >> i lived an honest life. i have never been accused of any bad doing >> good morning. >> my company at the time we lost four employees that worked, that were at pulse nightclub. >> she was in the south tower. she made it out. got caught up in it. >> did i embellish my resume? yes, i did. i am sorry. >> what was the source of your funds, sir, what was the source of your money. >> you listed the wrong name of the treasure, why did you list the wrong name of treasurer on your campaign finance forms. >> i am asking you directly. >> sapphire. she is really probably pretty happy about this, too. this poor little girl she suffered the last three to four months of her life because he stole money from me and from her. he needs to be in jail and that is where he is headed. i just saw all of the things that he spent money on. all of those clothes, botox, sophora. i wonder what he spent her money on? >> i don't have one. you know, i will say i just discovered what it was three weeks ago when it was brought up in a discussion in my office. >> nobody tells me to do anything. i made the decision on my own. >> i am a boring nerd, dork, whatever you want to call me. >> i am quiet. >> m mit romney, he goes to the state ofof the union wearing ukraine e lapel pipin and tells a a latino gayay man i shoululd sit inin the front i should be the back. rosa park did not sit in the back and neither am i. >> i was not a drag queen in brazil. i was young and had fun at a festival. sue me for having a life. >> they act like they are on ivory towers and they are untouchable. within the ranks of the united states congress there are felons galore, there are people with all sorts of shifty backgrounds and all of a sudden george santos is the magdolin of united states [ inaudible question ] >> i am not running for re- election, not because it was a damming report. not running for re-election because i don't want to work with a bunch of hypocrites. it is gross. i have a colleague who are more worried about getting drunk every night with the next lobbiest that they are going to screw and pretend like none of us know what is going on and sell off the american people, not show up to vote because they are too hung over or whatever the reason is. >> santos what are you doing to stop the ongoing genocide of palestinians. >> what are you going to stop the genocide? >> what are you doing . >> yes, many children are dying in palestine. >> the next time he tries to accost me i want him out of here. he is an animal. i am holding a child. >> mr. santos, who? , who? >> who? >> the gentleman back there. terrorist emphasizer. what is happening in israel is, what is happening to the people of israel should not be defended. no one defending hamas has any business in this building if you are elected, if you are a civilian. it is a disgrace that we allow people to parade that kind of thought in here. >> that was a lot. with every obituary comes an autopsy. interesting moments in a debate over his expulsion including this one from matt gates who was against his dismissal. >> since the beginning of this congress there are only two ways you get expelled. you get convicted of a crime or you participated in the civil war. neither apply to george santos. so, i rise not to defend george santos whoever he is but to defend the precedent that my colleagues are willing to shatter. >> it is interesting that congressman gaetz is suddenly a fan of precedence. >> we fail to a muscle memory on how to do things >> that is not the way we have run since the middle '90s. i am trying to break the fever and liberate us from the other votes. >> here is why i want to break the fever. since the mid'90s continued resolution. >> what i am trying to do is break the fever dream that is the continuing resolution way of governing. >> i think the house of representatives have been paralyzed for the last several decades as we refuse to pass a budget. >> there was another interesting moment involving gaetz' colleague. she tweets this. george santos is an ass who like every other american gets the presumption of innocence until found guilty. charges are not a conviction. that is noteworthy and to be fair, true, since she believes that she knows the outcome of another case, one involving hunter bidden and joe biden with or without charges there. -- hunter biden and joe biden. >> the american people will decide if joe biden is corrupt and president. this time it is obvious how this ends. this does not end well for joe biden. i can guarantee you that. >> is it supposed to be the evidence that leads to you to pursue impeachment and inquiry? >> that is what the inquiry is to get more evidence. >> now, one thing to watch for going forward in the post santos era are bipartisan calls to expel democratic senator menendez, his do have allegations of being a foreign agent. next, for us, israel stepping up strikes tonight after the truce with hamas collapses. this as fallout intensifies over the warning that israel dismissed about this hamas plot. former national security advisory john bolton will join me. plus, just in, the home of democratic congressman adam smith allegedly vandalized for people advocating for a ceasefire. . breaking news tonight, israel restarting the fighting with hamas. israel is facing heat over the "new york times" report that the israeli's dismissed intelligence of a hamas plot a year before this attack. with me now to discuss this is john bolton. he was national security advisory for president trump. this was not an intelligence failure. it seems to have been a failure for the government to act on intelligence they already had, right? >> i think it helps to understand how intelligence works. a lot of information comes in and israels are superior, a lot comes into the u.s. intelligence agencies and one of the key things is trying to separate the weak and the signals from the noises they say. the fact that, look, this is a gross intelligence failure, no doubt about it but it is not clear to me that we identified the reason for that failure. and i think that is going to be part of the post hostility frenzy. the document that the "new york times" reported this morning could well have been examined as disinformation. and a way to not focus on the wrong. >> there was a document and eyes on a dry run of this attack, what ended up being the october 7th that matched what the document laid out. it is the combination of those things, don't you think that should of raised some flags? >> well, look, they failed, they got it wrong, but the dry run could have been disinformation, too. the "new york times" report says that this information circulated widely within the services. i think that is some indication if lathat that was accurate how widespread this was. it brings in a lot of information, the real issue is if the screens that try to remove the bad information, the irrelevant information, the disinformation worked correctly or they don't. here they clearly failed. you can't say after the fact well, here is the plan, they missed it. as if, you know, it should have been obvious to them back in the day that it was the right plan. >> one of the big questions now is what happens with the rest of the war. israel says they want to move into the south pretty aggressively. there is tremendous pressure to be more targeted in their attacks and not to kill as many civilians, more than 15,000 killed so far. can they do that in your view? >> well, i call that argument really, trying to inhibit what the israelis do. the terrorist veto. israel has a right to self- defense, that right to self- defense includes eliminating the threat that manifested itself on october 7th. now, to say that somehow israel has done something wrong here, so far, and may do further wrong you have to say either that they deliberately targeted civilian personnel or insulations or that they failed to weigh adequately the importance of the military target compared to the collateral damage. >> that is what people are asking if they are not sufficiently thinking of the collateral damage versus the target. which is hamas. >> look, you can, people can use rhetoric all of the time but let's have specifics where they didn't reportedly weigh it adequately. i think that there is a question here that people have to address seriously which is the responsibility of a lot of people in the gaza population that have been hamas supporters and enablers. to say that the israelis can not pursue their legitimate right of self-defense means by definition they have to live in for of terror that is what the veto is. i don't think the israelis will succum to it. >> liz cheney issued ahead of 2024, listen. >> he has told us what he will do. it is very easy to see the steps that he will take. people who say, well, if he is elected it is not that dangerous because we have all of these checks and balances. don't fully understand the extent to which the republicans in congress today have been co- opted. one thing that we see today is a sort of sleep walking into dictatorship in the united states. >> is she right about that? >> no. i don't think so. with all due respect to liz. i think a second trump term would be very damaging to the united states and could cause damage in many respects. but, i think it is a mistake to overstate it. i think, i think it, i think it exagerates the risk and under estimates the strengths of our institutions. when donald trump was president he tried to steal the election and failed f. he can steal this one or not we don't know. even when he gets in that is one branch of government, there are two. the constitution has lasted through so far worse than donald trump and i think it will outlast him this time. i will say again i think it is very dangerous to elect him president. >> i think you have seen the reporting that i have, a lot of people around trump, who know him well, say this time he has a plan to use the executive branch to frankly break the law. are you worried about that? >> sure. i am sure i am one of his targets. i was before. i am sure i will be again. but, look, it is important to assess the danger, assess the threat accurately. does not do any good to minimize it, does not do good to exagerate it, either. trump will damage us if he is elected again but not cause the constitution to fall. >> all right, john bolton, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> glad to be with you. tonight, congressman adam smith reporting his home was graffitid with calls for a ceasefire in the israel-hamas war. we will speak with him next in order for small businesses to thrive, they need to be smart, efficient, savvy. making the most of every opportunity. that's why comcast business is introducing the small business bonus. for a limited time you can get up to a $1000 prepaid card with qualifying internet. yep, $1000. so switch to business internet from the company with the largest fastest reliable network and that powers more businesses than anyone else. learn how you can get $1000 back for your business today. comcast business. powering possibilities. . new tonight, democratic congressman adam smith says his home in washington state was vandalized with graffiti urging a ceasefire in the isr