Ive often said i remember the first time that i was in israel with [ inaudible ] just before the sixday war and she was telling me how terrible everything was. All of a sudden she looked at me and she said, would you like a photograph . And i thought thats unusual. We have no place else to go. Well, the truth of the matter is the war in israel the truth of the embrace israel and a lot more to say and i can talk to you in private if i can. [ Inaudible Question ] all right. All right. You are looking at live pictures of President Biden in israel, in tel aviv standing next to and speaking with the world and the families who have had some of their Family Members kidnapped by hamas and some of their Family Members killed in that horrific attack on last saturday, october 7th. He is here to speak with the israeli leadership, he is here to also try and have conversations to try and figure out a humanitarian corridor for those who are in gaza suffering from the air strikes and the dire consequences of the israeli blockade there where they dont have enough water, food or fuel. I want to go now to our Kaitlan Collins who is also in country here watching all this have unfold. Give us some sense of just how important and significant this visit from President Biden is after he was invited here by Prime Minister netanyahu in the midst of an official war. Reporter yeah, and he took a few days to consider that invitation from the israeli Prime Minister and then obviously accepted. I want to tell you, sara, where this meeting is happening right now that you just heard President Biden speaking from, its happening truly across the hall from where im standing right now. That applause that you could hear in the microphone, we could hear it, its loud enough, were that close to where this room is. This stop that President Biden just made is easily the most somber of the few stops that he is making while hes here on the ground in israel for a very short, just really a daytime visit today. He started off meeting with the israeli Prime Minister, he expanded that and opened it up to that newly formed Wartime Cabinet that Prime Minister netanyahu has formed. Thats who he was meeting with for an extended period of time. There in the room with him, those people surrounding him, those were First Responders who responded on that deadly day on october 7th as that hamas attack unfolded here in israel. It was the families of victims who were killed that a dai and also the relatives of hostages who still dont know the fate of their loved ones which was something the white house said was on President Biden priority list because we know those hostages include several americans as well. Right there at the end you saw the president being asked a question by a reporter, you couldnt exactly make out what his answer was. Our colleague kevin liptak is in the room, we will wait to see what it was exactly that President Biden said, but one of the things that he is being asked about while hes here, sara, is what he said when he first got here, which is about that Hospital Explosion that happened in gaza city that caused so much uproar, something that you heard Prime Minister netanyahu saying the world should be outraged about but it shouldnt be directed at the israelis because they are denying the possibility. That is a denial i should note President Biden has emphasised since hes been on the ground saying based on what he has seen he believed it was, quote, the other team. He didnt say it was palestinian militants, palestinian terrorists, the idf blamed earlier. That is something of course that has been a central undertone of this entire visit since that happened. Who is responsible for that of course given that is what scrapped the other part of this trip that was supposed to happen that is now no longer happening. I should note President Biden is going to come in this room behind me soon after he meets these First Responders and these victims, the families victims the victims of the families and come out and make remarks. We will see what he says. If theres update on humanitarian progress, a corridor, somewhere for civilians in gaza who are fleeing to go, getting water in, all are key issues hes been discussing while hes been here on the ground today, sara. Thank you so much for that reporting and we will be waiting to hear from you again once President Biden makes his way to where you are. I want to get now to clarissa ward, our chief international correspondent, who has been watching all of the developments and particularly what has been happening in gaza. From her Vantage Point where she has also been seeing rockets come in over the last eight to nine days. Clarissa, give us some sense about what youre hearing is happening in gaza after that horrible, disturbing i dont know any other way to tell it terrible attack on the hospital. Reporter well, sara, we have been talking to doctors who describe horrendous scenes of basically sifting through dismembered body parts, charred cor corps, make it difficult to identify. Still not a clear picture on how many people were killed, certainly it seems to be in the hundreds. We have spoken also to the organizers of that alleg ahli baptist hospital. People were using it as a shelter because there had been an order to evacuate gaza and move further south because there had been relentless bombardment in gaza and Northern Gaza particularly a lot of people in these situations as you know, share ration they take refuge in hotels, they take refuge in hospitals, places that they think are relatively safe, and it appears that most of the victims were ordinary people who were just taking refuge, as well as patients at the hospital. More broadly speaking, the Hos Hospitals In Gaza now say they are not able to function. They are no longer able to carry out their proper duty of medical care. We have heard from doctors who say theyre being forced to perform operations without anesthesia. There is no electricity. There is no drinking water. Our own journalists on the ground has talked about having to boil water from the toilet so that people have something to drink. The u. N. Has called this an unprecedented humanitarian catastrophe unfolding before our eyes. The u. N. Secretary general has called for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire, but of course what happened at the hospital has really complicated efforts. President biden and Secretary Of StateAntony Blinken had really hoped that they were going to be able to announce some sort of a tangible deliverable here in terms of opening up humanitarian aid to allow it to at least if not to allow people to flee gaza, at least to allow aid in to the people of gaza. That now becomes incredibly complex prospect, sara, because arab leaders have canceled their meeting with President Biden because they are now dealing with outrage and protests on the streets of their cities. It becomes all that more difficult for diplomats to do their job, for humanitarian organizations to have their voices heard and for some modicum of respite to be delivered to the people of gaza, sa sara. Yeah, it is really important to remember that no matter all of the noise out there from many different sides of this conflict, that there are hundreds of families dealing with loss, dealing with injured and just terror inside of gaza because it is so densely populated. I know you and i have both been on the ground there multiple times. It is a very difficult place before theres any kind of incursion and now it has been rendered just a complete disaster when it comes to humanitarian effort there. Clarissa ward, thank you so much for your reporting. Kaitlan collins, i appreciate you and we will check back in with you both when we get some new information as biden makes his way to where you are, kaitlan. John, kate . We will get back to you soon, sara. Thank you. So this morning the Israeli Military is steadfast and adamant that Islamic Jihad in gaza is behind the deadly blast at the hospital, presenting evidence at a Press Conference overnight. Watch this. By land, sea or air that hit the hospital. Second, our radar system tracked rockets fired by terrorists from within gaza at the time of the explosion. Third, we have intelligence, some that will be shared here, of communication between terrorists talking about rockets misfiring. He just talked about some audio which hopefully we will play for people in a little bit of a conversation israel says was between hamas just after the strike. With us now cnn military analyst retired general Mark Hertling. This is the location of the hospital in gaza right now just so people get a sense of what it looked like before. This is the overall campus. As i said, the idf released what they call evidence that this was caused by Islamic Jihad, what the u. S. Calls a terror Group Operating inside gaza. One of the pieces of evidence that they provided was this Radar Trajectory of rockets they say launched from gaza. Explain what were seeing here. What were seeing is the lines of several rockets coming from a launcher. This is called a Point Of Origin in military speak. They normally go to a point of impact. This is what the iron dome uses to intercept rockets. They see where theyre going and then they intercept them if theyre going into a populated area. But what happens, john, a lot of time with some of these rockets, because they are not real technologically advanced, they will just fall out of the sky. What i mean by that is the engine will stop. As soon as they do that a rocket has the trajectory of a brick so it immediately goes a little further and then just drops down. But an important factor to consider, when that happens it still has rocket fuel inside the rocket. So it not only has the explosive warhead, it has fuel behind t what happened, the indicators are or what the israelis are saying is one of those rockets came out, lost its engine, lost its forward propulsion and just dropped out of the sky and it dropped near this Al Ahli Hospital which is on the Southwest Side of the city of gaza. Stand by one second. Stand by for us. We want to get back to Kaitlan Collins, she has new reporting and new information about President Biden and what he is learning about exactly what we are talking about, this blast at the hospital. Kaitlan, what are you picking up . Reporter yeah, john and kate, this is really notable because when President Biden arrived here in israel that was when he first said that he embraced those denials by israel, that they were not behind that Hospital Explosion in gaza, and he said based on what he had seen but he did not say what it was that he had seen, but when he was just in the room meeting with those families and the First Responders, he was asked what made him confident that israel was not, in fact, behind that strike. Im quoting the president now, he says, the data i was shown by my defense department. So he is citing the pentagon, saying that is the reason he is confident that it was not the Israel Defense forces that were behind that explosion that happened at that hospital, something that they have strenuously denied. He says it is the pentagon who is backing that up and that is why he cited that as soon as he arrived here on the ground in tel aviv. Obviously that is incredibly significant because weve seen the protests that have been spreading because of those claims that it was israel behind it. The president says the pentagon has shown him that it was not israel that was behind that explosion that hit that hospital in gaza city. Great. An important context and background on this. Kaitlan, thanks so much. General, you are here with us. Not just information coming from the idf. President biden saying its information he received, data from the pentagon, from the defense department, says what to you . It tells me that theres more information. And you are just not going to take another governments word for something happening, even though the pictures that the israeli Defense Forces gave out are pretty compelling, but were always going to confirm or deny within the defense department. I said this earlier today, that there has to be more to this, and i think the u. S. Government has what we call mazent, intelligence from satellites, from signals that show launches. We have that capability. So as much as youre going to get a tactical approach to this Point Of Origin, point of aim, which is pretty significant, youre going to have an overhead platform that sees a missile burn when it takes off or when something explodes and comes out of the sky. Lets talk more about the evidence the idf did present. Again, people looking for absolute slam dunk proof one way or the other arent going to see it here, but the idf points to craters. This is the site of the explosion. Right. Explain. Okay. This is the hospital here. This is a parking lot with a lot of cars in it, you see pictures of it. The implosion or the Explosion Site which would potentially the fuel that we were talking about earlier burned most but not all of the cars in that parking lot, which is interesting. It talks about fuel spilling all over. But on the side of the hospital i also saw some pockmarks which would be the results of an explosion. We see some of this, general, as this goes through this is some of the aftermath. This is the middle of the parking lot but as it spans over, i think it was on this film yeah, it will come up. There are the pockmarks in the side. Thats from a blast. Someone was here, thats obviously blood, but you can see most cars are burned. This one is not. Theres another one over here thats not. So you can tell this was a constricted explosion somewhere, it maybe didnt even touch the ground. This also shows it here. This is a zoom in of exactly what you were talking about as well. Look at these cars, nothing. So it is very compelling, but when you also look at, you know, that aftermath, where is the crater . When you are talking about a crater from an israeli bomb, theres going to be a hole there. And, again, this is why the israelis did release images. These are of craters that they say are formed when they drop bombs from airplanes and they say there are no craters here inside these parking lots, correct . Well, the problem with all of this is weve seen over the last 12 hours information is important, but emotions took hold early on from both sides. The israelis were very defensive, the palestinians were very upset. There were indicators of some people wounded, it probably wasnt the numbers that they were citing last night. Thats just conjecture on my part, but both sides are blaming the other and thats what happens in war. General, can you it is a flippant way of saying it but can you put the genie back in the bottle with more information . No. You cant . You can partially, kate, but you are talking about those arab street all over the middle east last night, we saw films in every single capital with hundreds of thousands of people. Demonstrations here and here. Every one of those. Iraq, baghdad, tehran, turkey, egypt. When you say, okay, we now have more facts potentially and if you believe the israelis and they have compelling facts, how do you put that genie back in the bottle . Go ahead, john. I was going to put this back up one more time, the video of this. Again, there is also audio released, the idf released audio of what it purports to be hamas officials talking about this blast after it happened. Hopefully we will play that for you in a bit. To sum it up do Islamic Jihad rockets fall from the sky like this . All the time. Misfires happen. All the time. Misfires happen. I dont want to give a percentage because i dont know, but because of the quality of these rockets, and weve seen the same thing in ukraine in that conflict where theyre using russian rockets, they fall out of the sky completely like this. They dont hit the targets. These are not precision weapons, these are area weapons. Youre not saying im going to hit that particular point on the ground, they go out and hopefully get in the area and cause damage. Sometimes they are not well made and they drop out of the sky. Put it all together what we see here, what the idf has put out and then the new information as kaitlan was just reporting that President Biden says that its data that he was provided from the u. S. Defense department that helped him get to a place of comfort and confidence that this was not israel, this was Islamic Jihad. What does that do to you, your level of confidence when we are in the fog of war . We are somewhat flying blind, obviously, as analysts. Well, first of all, every time in war things happen, bad things happen to either side. So weve seen the distrust at times of the israeli force. In 2014 when israel went into gaza the war stopped basically because of the amount of civilian casualties, but its also hamass approach, its their strategic objectives, number one, kill a lot of jews, number two,