very successful. that was speaker kevin mccarthy back in january trying to make the case as he worked to become speaker of the house, his majority would come together, learn from that moment and be able to succeed at the moment the united states federal government is on the brink of a government shutdown with less than 40 hours left on the clock. >> right now speaker mccarthy is throwing a last-ditch hail mary as he struggles to overcome a rebellion in the house gop as we speak, the house rules committee trying to clear a way for a vote on a cinematstopgap bill. >> at this point, despite conservative additions into the legislation, mccarthy stunt i have peer to have enough republican votes to pass it. he is refusing to say if he will cut a deal with democrats if it fails. >> do you have a plan b if this -- >> why would i tell you? in this job, you've got to have a, b, c, d, e, f, g. >> what letter are you on now? >> again, that was mccarthy back in january. the question this morning -- that was yesterday. here is why a shutdown matters for you. more than 2 million federal workers will stop being paid. more than 1 million active duty troops will also stop receiving paychecks. the white house is warning we could see huge travel delays and training for desperately needed air traffic controllers. as for the irs, they stop processing most tax refunds. it will be a lot harder for you to get in touch with the agency. >> manu is walking and talking with kevin mccarthy so often the last nine months dealing with these issues, there is no shortage of sound. no shortage of issues and impacts. food stamps and housing assistance for americans who rely on federal help could be in danger. the fda could be forced to delay food safety inspections across the nation. federal student loan programs could be disrupted. the majority of national parks are expected to close down. how is this hail mary going to play out today? >> reporter: 40 hours for a government shutdown. that is time for things to play out. to this point, house speaker kevin mccarthy has used every opportunity that he could to kaj ole, to try to get his conservatives to rally around a short-term spending bill, trying at times to pressure them, trying to make this about the border. he has tried everything he can and yet going into this vote today he is still short of the members he needs to pass this on the house floor. that means it's very likely that house republicans could go into the weekend without their own plan to avert a government shutdown. last night they voted out a series of appropriations bill. passed three. one failed with major republican defections. none of those bills would stop a government shutdown. that's why there is now a lot of focus on what will happen in the united states senate. they are working on a bipartisan basis in that chamber, but they may not have time to pass their own government funding bill before time runs out because of opposition and slow walking with senator rand paul over his concerns about the fact ukraine aid is in the bill. both chambers struggling rate now. but house republicans struggling more. they don't have their own plan to avert a shutdown. this is something that mccarthy for months has been warning his conference would be a death knell to the republican majority, arguing it could hurt them in 2024 if they are the ones blamed for the shutdown. >> lauren fox, thank you. we will keep checking with you. phil. mccarthy's warnings laying out -- the question is how did we get here. the answer is it didn't just happen overnight. in fact, you have to track back to january where this all started where speaker kevin mccarthy was trying to become speaker of the house. >> the honorable kevin mccarthy of the state of california has received 203. 203. 2 201. 201. 201. 201. 201. 200. 200. 200. 213. 214. 216. having received a majority of the votes cast is actually elected speaker of its house of representatives. [ cheers and applause ] >> to be clear, there is no point in replaying that to try to take a shot at the speaker of the house. what it demonstrates is the work that mccarthy had to do throughout the course of these nine months with his very slim majority. a very slim majority where conservative hard-liners have juice inside the majority but they are utilizing it which created serious problems. if you want to understand how you got from there to here, it's worth noting that that's the place you have to start. of course, mccarthy became speaker of the house. there he is with the gavel there. the process to getting there included a number of concessions to the conservative hard-liners to get over the top with the 15th vote including the member who can call for a motion to oust the speaker. moving all of the 12 appropriations bills individually. freedom caucus has more representation on committees and cap fiscal spending at 2022 level. that's playing a role where we are right now. most importantly, though, that started things the debt ceiling deal that happened back may really accelerated where we are now. if you look at that deal, it was a major bipartisan victory for mccarthy. there were real potential dangers to the country if the u.s. defaulted on its debt. he trucstruck a deal with presi biden, rescind new irs funding -- critical things that mccarthy called historic. republican moderates certainly got behind and wanted. but within days the backlash from conservatives mainly because they set a spending level was supposed to make a government shutdown less likely was fierce. you saw it repeatedly over and over again. polling spending bills, failing on procedural motions, fail again on procedural motions, failing again on procedural motions. that has driven to this. not just individual spending bills but a stopgap spending bill mccarthy heading into this day does not have enough republican support to pass on its own. if you look at where our capitol hill team which has done great reporting on this has the hard no votes right now as they enter this day, something is worth noting for all of them. matt gaetz, matt rosendale, eli crane, if you want to go over here, lauren boebert as well. all of them refuse to street for mccarthy not just for the first 14 votes for speaker, also voted present on the 15th vote. that underscored what was going to happen nine months later. >> thank you. joining us republican congressman from new york mike waller. congressman, so appreciate you being with us on day like today. i want to step back for a moment and let you and everyone listen to real froeks from across the country. this is 2019 as the shutdown was going on and on. here is how it impacted them. >> i have enough for one more mortgage payment and i got to go to car max tomorrow and sell my car. >> when we hear things like this shutdown could go on for months or years, we don't have months or years. we have creditors. we have medical bills. we have mortgages. we have rent. >> i don't think that we should be held captive like our paychecks should be held captive just because of something that they need to, like, brawl out. >> can you guarantee that those people and your constituents, that won't happen this time? >> i am going to do everything i can to ensure that it doesn't. i don't think there is any question the only people who get hurt here are the american people. i respect some of the differences that some of my colleagues have with respect to spending, with respect to process, but in some cases, like with matt gaetz, it's a difference of personality. he made it very clear his objective is to remove kevin mccarthy as speaker. and so this has become a situation where the american people are going to be harmed because of one person. matt gaetz. and as far as i'm concerned, i am not going to stand by and let that happen. we've tried to give the speaker as much runway as possible here to get a conservative cr on to the floor, continuing resolution, to keep the government funded and be in a position to negotiate with the senate. if it fails today, there are a number of us that will move ahead without them because the bottom line is people's lives, people's economic livelihood is at stake. the stock market. 401(k)s. it's totally unacceptable to be playing politics as matt gaetz has been throughout the entire three-week period. and i am not going to let it happen. >> explain to the american people how you will do that. how you will move forward without them and what that will result in. >> there are a number of ways forward. number one, i and 31 other republicans are part of the problem solvers. we signed on to a bill that would be a bipartisan stopgap measure for about three months to allow us to complete the appropriations process work. nobody in the republican conference disagrees about the need to cut spending. nobody in the conference disagrees about the need to do single subject appropriations bills. we all agreed to that. the bottom line is, it's going to take more than tomorrow's deadline of september 30th to pass these bills and get them signed into law. >> do you -- >> so in the interim, we need to keep the government funded and open. so the bill that the problem solvers put forward deals with border security, deals with ukraine, it would deal with disaster relief and keep the government funded. the senate, obviously, is working on a bill right now in a bipartisan way. we will see what they come back with. i do believing we need to deal with border security. this administration has failed miserably when it comes to border security. we are dealing with the consequences of that in my home state of new york. i saw leader jeffries on the floor yesterday and talked to him, and said, look, we need border security. well, we'll see what the senate -- >> congressman, i am going to get to immigration -- i want to ask you about immigration in new york in a minute. to stay on this topic for a moment, do you believe speaker mccarthy should negotiate with democrats to reach a dole? are we at that point? >> listen, we are going to see what happens this morning. the rules committee is meeting right now on a conservative cr to get through house. if it fails, look, we have an obligation to govern. >> okay. >> and so the bottom line is, any final -- any final continuing resolution is going to be bipartisan. it has to be, given the fact that we are a divided government. the senate is controlled by democrats and the president is a democrat. >> congressman, last -- yesterday there was the vote on this ag bill and you did not vote to pass it despite consistently, you know, working, as you said, to avoid a shutdown, saying, you know, you have been supportive of mccarthy. can you explain to people why? i believe it was because of one provision having to do with mifepristone. >> that is correct. i stated that going back to july when this bill was under consideration. the failure of the ag bill yesterday has nothing to do with the shutdown. the shutdown is a result of the fact that there is a september 30th deadline for the fiscal year and we are not complete with all of our appropriations work. even if that bill passed yesterday, that would have been the fifth of 12 appropriations to pass the house. by the way the senate has not passed one single appropriations bill to date. so there is -- there is, obviously, a timeframe here where congress has not completed its work. so the only way forward at the moment to keep the government open and funded is to pass a continuing resolution. now, some of my colleagues object to that because they say, oh, this is the way washington has been working for 30 years. yes. and when you are trying to break the habit, it does take time. our appropriations committees have been going through line by line, budget bill by budget bill, to come up with a better product. that takes time. and so there is no reason in my opinion to hold the american people hostage while going through this -- >> congressman -- >> it's important work, but it takes time to do it. >> i want to end on immigration. it's critical. we are all seeing what's happening in new york and in the district that you represent. i will say that on the senate side they successfully passed 12 budget bills out of appropriationes in july. not the full senate -- >> poppy, poppy -- >> i don't have time -- >> we passed 12 out of committee. they passed nothing on the senate floor -- >> yes, that's clear. i wanted to clarify they got them out of the appropriations committee. on immigration we heard governor hochul of new york say yesterday what one more impact of a shutdown would be on work visas for migrants, especially from venezuela, now that the biden administration has given them this temporary protective status. here's what the governor said. >> it's going to tstop our ability to get the people out of the shelters, which is exactly what president biden was trying to do when he granted tps, temporary protective status, for venezuelans. >> the time for action is now. do you support those temporary work permits for them? >> with all due respect to the governor, her handling of this crisis has been a disaster. you have 85,000 people in the new york city shelter system. it was down to 50 prior to this crisis. so the 10,000 or so people who are going to get tps status and work authorization, yes, it's important. venezuela, obviously, deal with significant challenges. most of the migrants coming are coming from venezuela. but this is a crisis across the country. this is not just about new york. you have 6 million migrants who have crossed our southern border since joe biden became president, many illegally. she's asylum cases when they are heard two to three years after the fact, 70% are being rejected. so we need to secure or border. we need to stop this massive influx. we need to deal with the asylum cases expeditiously at the border at the points of entry at the country's of origin. just giving work authorization is not solving the problem. eric adams said it's going to cost new york city $12 billion over three years and that it is destroying the city. kathy hochul the other day said there is no more room at the inn. this isn't a function of work authorization. this is a function of stopping the massive influx and ultimately reforming our great lakes immigration system. >> a job for congress -- >> democrats have refused -- hold on, poppy. democrats refused to act in the house. chuck schumer, the senate majority leader from new york, refused to do anything on border security. it's a disgrace and he needs to take responsibility and any cr should include provisions to secure our border. it's that simple. >> congressman waller, we are not only out of time, overtime. you are always welcome back. i thank you this morning. >> thank you. >> phil. president biden issuing a blunt warning about the affect donald trump is having on democracy in america. how this message will be used in the 2024 campaign. details about the tragic death of that young tech ceo in baltimore. there is an extremist movement that does not share the basic beliefs in our democracy. the maga movement. there is no question that the days the republican party is driven and intimidate bid maga republican extremists. trump says the constitution gave him, quote, the right to do whatever he wants as president, end of quote. i never heard a president say that in jest. >> that was president biden yesterday issuing a stark warning about the existential threat he sees facing american democracy. his biggest concern wasn't subtle. former president donald trump. biden laying out details during a speech in arizona one of the states at the center of trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. biden's fourth speech to call out the former president and current gop frontrunner on his behavior. "the new york times" shows the uphill battle facing anyone facing donald trump. "the times" retaining a memo showing more than 40 anti-trump television ads failed to make a dent in trump support among republican voters. in some cases, even helped the former president. joining us now to discuss former new york congressman mark rose and former trump white house communications director alyssa griffin. the biden speech in second. i want to talk about this. you know, to pull something that -- from the memos, quote, every traditional post-production ad attacking president trump backfired or p produced no impact. the distinction here this is for republicans in a primary setting and it tracks where republicans are based on poll. and biden is going to be a general election candidate that he would have to face. do you think the same applies in a general election setting? >> no. i am not surprised that the club for growth ads didn't work. the problem is you are not going to beat him on kind of the minor policy issues. he didn't finish the wall. he raised spending. he spent too much when he was in office. you need to litigate the case of his unfitness. voters who like trump, yeah, i have money in my 401(k), energy prices were lower. i don't know that i think that kind of things breaks through. a general election, biden needed to be doing this six months ago as far as i am concerned litigating the case of this is an anti-democratic president. we know what we saw on january 6th. he is an existential threat. i am fine with a normal republican, but this is not a normal republican. that i do think breaks through with independent swing voters and moderates. >> the fact they spent $4 million so far on this and this internal memo says nothing broke through, your voice is interesting because you represented a lot of trump voters in your district. what breaks through? >> this is a cult of personality. and so the one point where i saw trump voters really move away from donald trump, albeit momentarily, was the lafayette square. when they saw donald trump walk out and literally -- with general milley, inflict violence on peaceful american citizens, and because at that moment, what that was, was an assault on their values, that they hold and still hold so sacred. this is and will never be about policy. and anyone that tries to make it that way in a republican primary or in a general election is really playing with fire. i have been amazed in this republican primary why they have not led with one word and one word only, which is loser. donald trump lost in 2018, the house and the senate. very, obviously, lost in 2020. and then the republicans had a subpar performance in 2022. it's been string of losses. that is a message -- i am no expert on republican primary voters, but i think would resonate. >> there is this reporting of this wish casting that glenn youngkin or someone else will get through. the republicans are not losing for a lack of political talent. nikki haley is an excellent political candidate. they have not litigated the case against donald trump. policy won't break through. this is a cult of personality. people generally love the former president. we saw what happened on january 6th. we saw what happened at lafayette square. do you want that chaos? do you want to explain to your kids the commander-in-chief is this person who said these things? no one wants to touch it and combined all seven candidates last week still trail donald trump by 20 points. >> you've got to punker the five star hotel dinners and thoughts? to both of your points on this, what you are describing is kind of the theory of case of biden's campaign team, right. how they launched the campaign with with the video that they had. it's, obviously, a driving force behind yesterday's speech, the fourth on this issue, and that's the consensus tras. yes, on abortion policy, yes several policy issues, the broader, bigger picture, the contrast which they believe will work. and yet members of your party, a lot of them, are convinced that everything is going terribly wrong. how do you kind of navigate those two differences? >> democrats are bed wetters. by their nature. i have never seen a conversation with they didn't think the world was about to end. politically speaking, it's about discipline and repetition. and when we look at what the biden campaign is doing now and will continue to do in the coming months, constantly speaking to what you talked about are values. pate simple. our constitution. the fact that this ex-president is literally calling for the execution of our leading military official. there is no place for that that america. and it's no coincidence that joe biden is sending had message while also wrapping his arms around john mcdain's legacy. this is about pro-america versus those who don't believe in our shared values. >> biden's strongest messages don't compare to the almighty, compare me to the alternative because the realty is, his favorite is tracking with jimmy carter, 73% of americans think he is too old to be president. if he can say this a binary choice between me and donald trump an historically unfit president, that's where his strength lies. >> what did you make of what trump said about the debates being fruitless. ", the republican debates have to stop because it's bad for the republican party. they are not going anywhere, meaning those candidates on stage. >> this not going to -- there is not going to be a breakout candidate. he is saying that about him but they won't fwraek him fully except for chris christie. >> nonthat i think he is wrong. okay. he is should debate. if you're running to get elected you need to show up and debate. but i don't think after two debates that did anything to boost the party and our image and our policy viewpoints. there was a lot of arguing amongst ourself and not dealing with the elephant that wasn't in the room of donald trump. >> interesting. have a good weekend, guy. departing the pentagon to a round of applause. [ applause ] >> my new best friend right here. >> general mark milley and his wife in a tradition known as clap out. he shook hands and shared hugs with colleagues including his successor general c.q. brown. he called him his new best friend. milley will officially pass the baton in a ceremony this morning in virginia. >> we thank him for his decades of service. 40 hours until the government runs out of money to pay its bills and there does not seem to be a plan forward from lawmakers to avoid a shutdown. a look at who america thinks is to blame. six months ago today russia detained evan gershkovich on espionage charges. his family speaking out exclusively to cnn. hear their message next. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. is it possible my network could take my business to the next level? 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>> thanks very much, phil. it's a tough day for evan, for his family, for the journal, and for fans of press freedom everywhere, i think. the government here says it's, you know, engaged in an effort to try to bring evan and other wrongfully detained people. we would like to see more action. there is a partisan resolution released by the senate last night led by senator rich and cardin and calling for his immediate release and for the biden administration to do more to bring evan home and this absurd situation. >> john kirby, who you know is the national security council's coordinator for strategic communications, to your point about doing more, saiys the u.s are engaged in active discussions to secure evan's release. can you tell us what more they could do now that they are not? >> we would like to see them do everything they can. we appreciate the comments about they are do what they can. we would like to see more. we are going to say that every day until evan sets foot back in the united states. >> i wanted to show people, there is a powerful letter from his family in the paper and the website today to i like paper. paper, papers. this is the journal, right. so the mast head, a qr code where everyone can scan it to learn more about evan and his journalism and ways they can help. you guys are keeping it in the fore. >> to point, evan's journalism, want him to become just another name, another person on this list. talk to people about his work. what he was doing, including what he was doing when he was detained. >> as you heard from his mother, he is sort of a unique combination for a foreign correspondent of someone who is american and grew up here, but has very deep roots to russian culture because his parents were soviet immigraters to this country in the 1970s. so he took to russia a great sensitivity for russian people, for russian society, for russian topics far beyond just covering the kremlin or whatever else you would expect a foreign correspondent to do over there. he loved listening to russian punk bands, watched russian tv, played soccer over there. he really immersed himself in russian life. and that comes through in his reporting. one of the most memorable pieces, i think, that he did that showed that was talking to russian parents who were receiving the corpses of soldiers back from ukraine. that's just an angle that you don't see and really anybody but evan couldn't have done such an amazing job bringing to life. he was very much there because of his interest in and love of the country. >> he is an extraordinary talent. i urge people, if you haven't, read his work on the journal's website. it underscores, one, why it is so clear he is wrongfully detained according to the journal, his family, the u.s. government, but that talent hisself and the love for the country he loves. thank you for your time. >> we appreciate yours. thank you very much. for more than 20 years jason has been working to give young people with disabilities like himself a brighter future. in 2016 he became the first cnn hero of the year from latin america. since then, he has built a brand-new rehabilitation center. now his organization has realized yet another big dream. [ speaking in a non-english language ] . >> for the full story and to see all the ways that he is transforming lives, go to cnnheroes.com. congress careening towards a government shutdown. who does the public think is at fault? harry enten has the latest polling. taylor swift so powerful that people are willing to pay the new york jets -- that's cold, man. to go to jets games because she may actually be at the game this weekend. how high prices are getting. that's ahead. harsh. this morning we are lg new disturbing details about the killing of a baltimore tech executive and the suspect in her murder. court documents show that 26-year-old pava lapere died of strangulation and blunt force trauma. police say she was killed last friday but was not discovered until monday. that's when they found her body lying on a roof. officials say surveillance video shows the suspect, jason billingsley, following lapere home. he pretended he forgot his keys and she let him in. documents show that billingsley allegedly raped a woman, slashed her throat and set her and her boyfriend on fire september 19, just three days before killing lapere. officials say investigators began tracking billingsley, he was arrested on wednesday. this morning, a warning about a popular weight loss drug the food and drug administration now acknowledging reports of blocked intestines in people using the diabetes ozempic. the fda updated the label of the medication this week warning users of possible intestinal blockage. the warning was on the label of the sister drug, wegovy, approved for weight loss. both drugs soared in popularity recently. owe zem zik stands behind the safety and efficacy of ozempic and the approved indications. the company went on to say they are working closely with the fda to continuously monitor the safety profile of its medications. congress likely heading to a government shutdown tomorrow. the american people will have to live with the effects. what does the public think in terms of who is at fault. harry enten joining us. who do they blame? >> think think in was a bit of a surprise about the conventional wisdom. there have been a number of polls. who would you mainly blame for a government shutdown? actually the plurality blamed joe biden and the democrats in congress at 39%. the gop in congress at 33%. both equally at 22. the two polls i saw when you combine biden and the congressional democrats more voters blame them than blame republicans in congress. and that is very different than what we have seen in prior shutdowns. who is the public blaming for prior shutdowns? republicans in '95, '96. republicans in 2015 and republicans in 2018-19. this may be a shutdown that is quite different than that in terms of the public blame because at least at this point more americans say they will blame biden and/or the democrats in congress. >> do people want their lawmakers to compromise or want them to hold firm when it comes to spending? >> yeah. so there is a bit of a split here. congress persons who think like you, should compromise to avoid a shutdown, overall 64% say that's what they want. only 31% say they want their folks to stick to their principles. look among republicans. we have a dead split, 50%, 46%. so i think that's a big part of what you are seeing in congress right now with some republicans wanting a compromise and some saying, no, stick to your principles. i don't think it's that surprising that they can't come to an agreement because the fact is this has been a congress in which nothing has gotten passed. just 14 bills and resolutions an all-time low since 1973. normally, through this point, the average is 70. so a congress that isn't getting anything done doesn't seem to be getting anything done once again. to me, not really much of a surprise at that point. >> consistent though. >> very consistent. i like consistency, phil. perhaps not in this case. >> thank you. we know harry will be watching his buffalo bills this weekend. will he tune in to the jets game this sunday night to see taylor swift potentially cheering on the chiefs? after a huge loss against oregon last weekend, deion sanders and colorado facing another uphill battle. can the buffalos upset the usc trojans? we will ask an expert. stay with us. pulling up, that was pretty ballsy. that was pretty ballsy, yeah. i just thought it was awesome how everybody in the suite had nothing but great things to say about her. >> this is the mystery that continues to grip our nation, are taylor swift and travis kelce actually dating? the answer is anyone's guess. the presence is already having an impact on ticket sales. after swift's appearance in kansas last weekend rumors of her possible attend ens at this sunday's game, new york jets has sent ticket prices soaring. the average cost are up more than 40% from $83 to $119 proving that the economic impact of taylor swift is for real. joining us is cnn contributor carrie champion. i need to know where you are on this. just writ large. >> writ large. okay. well, first and foremost, i will say this, i love that everyone doesn't really want to talk about it because they feel as if it's not interesting, but as i have said several times on this network, it's a scoch interesting. it's pure simple fun to see this taylor swift effect. now, we didn't believe that they were dating, that's still a question mark. we have seen the photos of them hanging out post-game, but i feel like this is something that's really good for the league twofold. twofold. we're getting more female fans watching the game, that's one thing, and the second thing is isn't it just nice to enjoy some good old american dating? isn't it nice to take a break from some things that are too heavy in life and this makes us feel good about it, is it not? i'm with this. i'm excited for it, i want it to happen. >> first of all, we have been talking about this every day. >> that's the right take. >> apparently people are interested in it. phil mattingly far more than i. i do love them both. i got to interview travis kelce's mom before the super bowl so i'm a big fan of his mom, big taylor fan. can we move on to college football and deion sanders and what we're trying to do this weekend, trying to get back on the right page after last weekend. he certainly thinks he is the best coach in college football, let's remind everyone what he told "60 minutes." >> okay. >> who is the best coach in college football today? >> let me see a mirror so i can look at it. >> you feel that? >> you think i'm going to sit up here and tell you somebody else? you think that's the way i operate? that somebody else got that on me? >> so, carrie, they do it this weekend, the team comes back? >> no. no. they won't. in fact, i can guarantee that they more than likely, and i will come on the show if i'm wrong, they more than likely will not win this game. but by saying he is the best coach in college football dion is essentially saying, very similar to the taylor swift effect, the prime effect is real. college football ratings are up 14%. the fact that people are going to boulder, colorado, as the epicenter for college sports is something that you can't say normally happens. perhaps denver for the broncos, but boulder not so much. he's taken a team that won one game last season, one game, and they have been able to within the first three weeks of college football mark the highest ratings of a college football game because of prime. because of what he believes in. and so when he says he's a great coach, he is a great motivator in that arguably the best we have seen thus far, but i can't say that his team will beat usc. i think it's impossible because of the fact that they have better personnel, especially that roster. >> i think that's important for people to understand. what happened last week against oregon and what's likely going to happen this weekend is not a reflection on whether or not he is a great coach or not, that's a reflection of personnel and reality. >> sure. >> i think the bigger picture of what's happened to that program, the attention that it's drawn, that more than anything else is what matters. >> you are 100% correct, phil. we haven't seen anything like t there is a reason why there is a sell he be list unheard of. will farrell, yes, he want to usc, but jay-z, snoop dogg, you have actors who are coming out, professional athletes coming out just to essentially -- i don't know what better way to say -- touch the hem of his garment. he has a wonderful effect. >> we have breaking news, we will turn to that. thank you very much. breaking news is what we want to discuss right now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> democratic senator dianne feinstein of california has died. she was 90 years old. cnn's lauren fox is here with more. lauren, what do we know at this point? >> reporter: we are still getting more information, phil, but what we know right now is that senator dianne feinstein, the longest serving woman in the u.s. senate, she has passed away. obviously we are still getting details and gathering information about her passing, how it occurred. we've known for a long time that senator feinstein has struggled with several health issues, but she has continued to serve in her capacity both as a senator and on the senate judiciary committee where her vote has been essential to moving forward with the biden administration's judicial nominees over the last several years and last several months in particular. senator dianne feinstein has a long legislative history and record including the fact that she was the architect of the 1994 assault weapons ban, fighting gun violence has been a key issue for senator feinstein over the course of her career. she was also the first woman to serve as the chairman of the senate intelligence committee and she fought even against her democratic colleagues to release details of the enhanced interrogation techniques that were used under the bush administration, going toe to toe with the obama administration in trying to get the public more informed about what had occurred during those years in the war in iraq and afghanistan. so obviously she is someone who has a long legislative history, a long career, someone who is obviously going to be very missed by her colleagues, but as you noted, she has been struggling with health issues over the last several months. she was absent from the senate for many months as she fought shingles and complications from shingles. she returned to the senate and had struggled at times with her role on the senate judiciary and appropriations committee, specifically a few months ago she was struggling, you know, to vote on a vote in the senate appropriations committee. so it is something that has come to pass, but we are still getting more details about senator dianne feinstein's passing. >> i believe we have our colleague kasie hunt on the phone. can you hear us? >> guys, yeah, i'm with you. >> you think about her service, 31 years in the senate, elected in '92, longest serving woman senator ever. lauren talked about the work that she did, the architect of the assault weapons ban in 1994. a huge voice as well when it came to the push to legalize gay marriage. we will get to the health in a moment, but just help us remember the woman and the senator. >> absolutely, poppy. i mean, lauren touched on this a little bit and i know, you know, phil, you know, he and i often were in the halls together talking with senator feinstein. she really was a legend, an icon for women in politics and she is someone who, you know, was breaking ground from the beginning when she was first working in san francisco with harvey milk and some of the, you know, kind of original battles over rights for gay americans. she is somebody who had just an incredibly storied career from there, you know, rising to national prominence. lauren outlined a couple of the things that she really took the lead on, you know, i remember in particular her work on the intelligence committee and when she was focusing in on some of the things that had happened in the course of the iraq war and how she really took that on in a way that took political courage at the time and really stood out and was very forceful in how she [ inaudible ] that. again, poppy, i think she really blazed a trail at a time when there were not very many women role models in politics for others to follow. it was a very, very tough road for her in the beginning and she is someone who, you know, nancy pelosi, for example, she would have been an example for pelosi, also of san francisco. and she did, of course, come in for some criticism from democrats near the end of her life because she was grappling with those health challenges, as you're seeing a little bit of on your screen here, but i do think that on this particular day you're correct to focus in on kind of what she meant in such a broadway to so many people. >> and the ground that she broke for so many people. phil, you were the chief congressional correspondent. just your thoughts on here. >> i mean, i think kasie's point, your point, this is important, there's been so much focus on health and age. people need to think about who the senator was. obviously passing away at 90, not only was she a titan in the senate, in a class of female legislators that changed the dynamic and the face of the institution as well in its entirety, over the course of her career from when she was at the san francisco board of supervisors, the first president of the board of supervisors, the reason she became mayor of san francisco was because of the shooting death that included harvey milk but also the mayor at the time and her rise in san francisco and to where she became such a powerful chair of multiple committees. focus on that. that is so much more important and so much more central to her career and to her life than i think what has been a difficult last couple of months. >> and the will, lauren brought it up and kasie as well, of her during the obama administration to say, no, the public needs to know what happened and to push against some of those even in her own party with that torture report also speaks to that will. >> you talk about legacy items and legacy issues. that is a central pillar of what will be remembered about her and what she did as a u.s. senator and as a