georgia's rico case against him, the former president, and 17 more really gets rolling. also tonight, how many health scares are too many health scares when you are the most powerful republican in the senate? the growing clash over mitch mcconnell and whether it is time to step aside. plus a new reward if you know where this escaped murderer is. and new word on where he might be headed. good evening, john berman here in for anderson. we begin with the latest maneuvering in the georgia election subversion case all jockeying for many, and start drifting apart from one another on the court calendar. rudy giuliani and six others waived arraignment, pleading not guilty in court filing. also today, pro trump attorney kenneth chesebro who asked for a speedy trial filed to sever his case from sidney powell. we're waiting for a federal judge to rule on removing mark meadows's case from state court. we learned today some codefendants have turned to crowd funding. and in one more sign that justice can be life changing for those who answered his call on january 6th, a judge today sentenced another so-called proud boy -- ethan nordean is his name -- to 18 years in prison. that is one of the lengthiest seine tepss yet. another member in the window smashing video, dominic pezzola, view a ten-year ten sense today. there were a number of not guilty pleas today, jessica. what have you learned? >> the not guilty pleas total 12 of those 19 defendants. rudy giuliani just the latest to plead not guilty. by pleading not guilty before september 6th, all of these defendants, they're going to be able to avoid those in-person arraignments at the fulton county court, and that includes, john, the former president, who did plead not guilty earlier this week. anyone, though, and there's seven remaining, who doesn't arrange to waive their arraignment beforehand, they will have to appear in court wednesday morning. we're also seeing this flurry of legal filings from kenneth chesebro. he's set to go to trial october 23rd. but first he's saying he wants the prosecution to speed up their production of discovery. his lawyers are saying it's unacceptable that prosecutors are planning to hand everything over only by a september 15th deadline and not sooner. his lawyers are saying prosecutors can't have it both ways, saying they're ready to go to trial but slow walking the production of these documents. secondly, john, chesebro is telling the court he wants a solo trial. specifically he's saying even though he and sidney powell both filed those motions for speedy trials, he does not want to go to trial with her. he says he never had any direct contact with powell. they're not accused of doing the same thing. so, distancing himself from powell. >> so, in terms of the federal judge decision mark meadows to move his case to federal court, any idea when we could get a ruling? >> it could be any day now. it probably won't be over the weekend. maybe even monday, likely tuesday, because the judge has received all the briefing he's asked for from both sides. the prediction is it will come before wednesday when meadows is scheduled for that arraignment. it appears the judge is facing one big legal question. can meadows move his case to federal court if he proves one of those acts was done as trump's chief of staff? meadows team arguing, yes, it should be moved even if there's just one act in this huge indictment that somehow touches on any part of meadows' role. fani willis and her team, of course, are arguing no. the indictment sabt conspiracy theory and not a single act. they don't want the bar to be that low for meadows. >> several of the 18 codefendants in this case are struggling to pay their mounting legal bills. what methods are they resorting to? how are they getting the money? >> some astonishing numbers. they're mostly resulting to crowd funding. john eastman raising more than $500,000. and you know, john, upcoming we do know that even though the former president has distanced himself from many of these defendants, our team has learned that he's hosting a $100,000 per person fund-raiser at his bedminster club next week for rudy giuliani. so, he's still helping out at least one defendant in this case. >> all right. jessica schneider, thank you very much. have a wonderful weekend. perspective from cnn political analyst and "new york times" senior correspondent maggie haberman, and jennifer rogers. maggie, what do you make of the former president's codefendants saying he is not funding their legal costs, he's not coughing up money to help them. he, in some cases, says he doesn't know a lot of these people. >> right. this has been an ongoing issue, john, about people's legal fees, various people we're talking about, witnesses, anybody with any connection to any of the investigations into him for quite some time going back to 2021. you know, he had started paying people's legal fees around the time that a bunch of people were being called before the house january 6th select committee. and then it sort of grew from there. but not everybody has been covered. now you have these codefendants who his team, trump's team, clearly does not want to pick up the legal fees, whether it is just because they don't want to have that output of money, whether there's even enough money available in save america, the pac that he's been using to pay legal fees, his own, and other people's, is a huge open question. they didn't have a ton of money heading into the second half of this year. but there is also the question of whether -- i have heard this from some advisers to him. is there going to be an issue for him if he is funding codefendants and therefore taking on some responsibility for them. and i don't think he wants to do that. >> because codefendants might get convicted and he doesn't want to be tied to them? is that the idea? s because it essentially says you're all part of the same thing. as we're seeing with a number of people who are trying to separate out their trials and sever from other people, they don't want to be part of a large conspiracy. if trump ends up funding people's -- who have been charged, funding their defenses, i think the concern for people around trump is that that raises a bunch of other questions. in addition to the fact he doesn't like paying for people's legal fees, let alone his own. >> it's expensive. funding a legal defense is expensive. this is extravagantly expensive for many of these defendants. on the other hand, what are the advantages to many of them if they can get their own representation, if they can separate their own defense from trump's? >> they really should, john, because you really need an independent lawyer who is working in your best interest and not considering the interest of the person at the top of the indictment, donald trump. prosecutors charged 19 people. they're going to need for a lot of those people to plead out. some of those people they're going to want to be cooperating witnesses, meaning they will testify at trial against the remaining defendant someday. that means that some of these people, prosecutors are going to want them to turn on donald trump and whoever else they have testimony against. you really need a lawyer who can advise you independently about your best interest as a defendant and as a potential witness. and to the extent you have your representation paid for by someone else in the case, that jeopardizes that independence. >> so, maggie, rudy giuliani pleaded not guilty today. we learned that trump is headlining this $1,000 per person fund-raiser for giuliani next week. what's the relationship right now between these two men? >> i think a couple of things are important here, john. i'm not sure he's hosting it. i think he's having it at his club. i have no idea if he's charging a rental fee or what for this event. he is headlining it, that's true. their relationship is strained. trump is said to still have some fondness for giuliani, but trump has often been critical of giuliani over the last couple of years. he has said to giuliani and to others, well, you didn't win these cases, and therefore he wasn't going to cover the fees that giuliani was looking for back in 2020 when he was, you know, offering all of these false theories and claims about widespread fraud. they see each other. they have known each other for decades. so, it's important to look at it in that context. but these are not people who are speaking on the phone every day. trump has a separate relationship that he had for a long time with trump's son -- excuse me, with rudy's son, andrew, who is one of giuliani's closest advisers and confidants. but that's a very separate track. that is not a relationship that has ever gone back to where it was in, say, 2018. >> interesting. jennifer, we mentioned that kenneth chesebro is trying to sever his trial from sidney powell's here. why do you think that is? what is the goal here? >> well, this is a rico case. so, they are allowed -- prosecutors are allowed to put in evidence of the existence of the enterprise and the predicate acts and the goals of the enterprise as a whole, which means if you're a defendant there's going to be a lot of information at trial that doesn't directly implicate you but could dirty you up in a way, right? it's bad information. it sounds terrible. so, you can be tarred by that in a way. so, what chesebro is trying to do is to avoid having anyone else at the table because he thinks that will minimize the amount of information that could be derogatory that will come in at his trial. you know, john, it's not going to work because they're never going to make these prosecutors try two speedy trial cases in two months. the rico statute is broad for a reason, and it's designed so you can try people together, charge them and try them. even if they don't know each other, if they're part of the enterprise and working toward the enterprise's goals. >> we will learn more soon, maybe as soon as next week. happy labor day, if that's something that people actually say. next, a new call from a big name republican for the senate's top republican to call it a day. we're joined by two people who know him, including one who just spoke to mitch mcconnell for their take on whether his latest on-camera medical scare is one too many. later, an exclusive and the chilling question it raises. did the btk serial killer murder even more people than the ten he confessed to? 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>> yeah, i actually saw him right after it happened. a couple of nights ago, he came home to louisville and head lined a fund-raiser and made remarks and answered a bunch of questions. if you didn't know something happened you wouldn't have known anything because it was business as usual for him. he told me he feels fine. he's watching georgia tech right now. >> everyone does know it happened, though. many people have seen it now twice on tv. how much more do you feel he needs to tell his constituents and colleagues about what might be causing these episodes? >> well, i think it was a good move and a smart move to have the u.s. capitol physician issue the statement that he did, that he had reviewed senator mcconnell's symptoms and his case. i thought that was a good thing. ultimately, he's accountable to two groups of people, the people of kentucky who elected him in '20. he's not on the ballot again until '26. and more immediately the republicans in the senate conference who he won election to leader and is going to be leader for the rest of his term. i know he's talked to many of them on the phone. that will be the next, sort of, thing here for him to get together with his colleagues next week and answer their questions. and i'm sure he'll do it. >> congressman walsh, you are one of those who thinks leader mcconnell should step down. why? >> john, he's been there way too long and he's too darn old. the problem here is transparency. i appreciate what scott said, and i know scott knows mitch mcconnell pretty well. but we don't know a darn thing about what's wrong with him. yes, the attending physician of the capitol came out with a statement, but we don't know if that attending physician actually met with mitch mcconnell. we don't know why the attending physician said he's clear to work. mcconnell's staff hasn't been transparent. john, we don't even know what's wrong with him. and if we don't know what's wrong with him -- and this has happened now -- we've seen it happen twice. the people around him seem to appear like this has happened more than just twice. dianne feinstein has no business being in the united states senate. until and if mitch mcconnell is open and transparent about what's going on, i'd say the same about him. >> scott, what's your response to that and your response to rich lowery at "the national review" who has said it's not urgent, it doesn't need to happen today, but he thinks mcconnell needs to make the decision to step aside and set the wheels in motion. what do you say to that? >> well, i mean, joe, i guess, has been living under a rock. we do know what's going on with senator mcconnell. he had a concussion earlier this year, and these issues are consistent with recovery from a concussion. it's interpret twill known. he took a few weeks off. it's just not true that we don't know what's going on with mitch mcconnell. honestly, i was very disappointed in rich. i'm an avid follower of "national review." i know not many republicans are these days, and i know rich has to run a publication that competes for clicks on the internet. >> oh, come on. >> i think he was way off base, and i respectfully disagree with him. and i'll choose to disregard that next issue of "national review" and i'll pick up the next one. >> joe? >> come on, scott. as a former member of congress, some of these people who are there, they feel like they're entitled to be there as long as they want. when you're a united states senator or a member of the house and there's something wrong with you physically, you have an obligation to be open and transparent with the voters. we don't know why he froze up for a second time. they've attributed it to lightheadedness or dehydration. their answers have been sparse and not at all forthcoming. scott, that's wrong. >> joe, last question, what do you think -- go ahead, go ahead, scott. >> if i may just respond. the idea that anyone feels entitled to be there, well, he is entitled to be there because he got elected by the people of kentucky. and then he got elected by his colleagues. he won elections, and that's why he's in his seat. he's not entitled to it. no one is entitled to it. but we seem to forget he did handedly win election. the idea he was placed there or has ownership of it is not true. >> he's not entitled to be there if he can't do his job. and if he can't tell his constituents what's wrong with him, that's a problem. >> we will see next week, as you both said, when the other senators return. that, i imagine, will be the next step here. thank you both. have a great weekend. just ahead, hurricane recovery efforts should be beyond presidential politics, but late word this evening that president biden said during the president's visit tomorrow witness the destruction caused by hurricane idalia. that meeting may not happen. we'll tell you what the governor's people are now saying. that's next. 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>> reporter: some of the plans are coming together for president biden's visit to the sunshine state, we're getting late word that there are no plans for the two leaders to meet. a desantis spokesperson telling cnn, we don't have any plans with the governor to meet with the president tomorrow in these rural communities and so soon after impact, the security preparations alone that would go into setting up such a meeting would shut down ongoing recovery efforts. but just yesterday i asked the white house's homeland security adviser whether such a meeting was in the works. and she noted, it's customary. >> we're just planning a visit, but i will say every time i've been to florida with the president, he has met with governor desantis and travelled the disaster zone, whether it was from last year's hurricane or when the surfside building collapsed. often they'll meet, have a briefing with emergency responders. it can be in the open, as it was from the hurricane last year. it could be in a briefing room, as it was at surfside. they are very collegial when we have the work to do together of helping americans in need. >> collegial and in close contact. just around the time that the homeland security adviser made those comments yesterday, i'm told that a white house official says that the president informed the governor of his plans to visit the state and that the governor raised no concerns at that time. and that the visit is being closely coordinated with state and local officials as well as with fema. so, john, it appears there's either been a change of plans or a change of heart. >> so, what does biden plan to do when he goes down to florida? >> reporter: well, it's safe to say those plans are a little bit in flux right now. we're still awaiting final word from the white house on exactly where the president is going to be going and who he'll be meeting with. the white house will only say the president will be visiting the hardest hit communities. he'll be meeting with local officials and emergency responders on the ground and be getting some of those briefings. but it doesn't sound like he'll be getting one of those briefings alongside governor desantis. >> curious little twist there. thank you very much. more presidential politics now. vivek ramaswamy is in new hampshire tonight, days after announcing 200 endorsements from republicans in the state. his rise in profile and polling has been met by repeated attacks about his positions on foreign policy. even eminem, this week, told him to stop using his song "lose yourself" after he rapped it. >> i started at not 0% but 0.0% in march. >> hey, everyone. how are you? >> reporter: from obscurity to caucus curiosity. >> we fight for the truth. we stand up for the truth. that is what won us the american revolution. that is what will win us the revolution of 2024. >> reporter: standing before a sign with one word, truth, vivek ramaswamy, 38-year-old former biotech exec and firstime hand cat is hitting multiple corners of iowa, seeking to capitalize on a political moment -- >> nice to meet you. >> good to see you. >> reporter: -- fuelled by a trump-like populism. >> i think what we have in this country are a lot of conspiracy realists. >> reporter: that some supporters prefer to the republican front runner. >> do you think he can beat trump? >> yes, without a doubt. we're tired of losing. trump lost. >> it doesn't seem to make sense. how are you going to meet trump when you have a trump base and he is running? >> i think the way i'm going to do it is by speaking in an uninhibited way. i think i am the only candidate in this case at this point that is speaking my mind truly without running it through filters. it does draw some backlash at times, but i think that's what people in this country are hungry for. >> reporter: ramaswamy brushes off criticism that he plays loose with the truth. >> in your book you had much different things to say about donald trump than you're saying tonight. >> that's not true. >> reporter: but it is true n. his 2022 book, ramaswamy did praise parts of trump's record, while offering sharp criticism. >> we might as well embrace it. >> reporter: ramaswamy takes trump's style even further on the issues, pledging to fire 75% of federal workers, eliminate all affirmative action in america, and use u.s. drones to attack mexican drug cartels, all while bucking the very party whose nomination he wants. >> vehicle for advancing an america first agenda. >> stop for one second. i cringe when someone says fellow republicans. i'm not a party man. >> but this is a caucus system and a party system. >> absolutely. many people who will be caucusing in the republican party are people like me, people who are disgusted with the establishment. >> so, you don't need the party structure? >> o-i don't need the party structure. we need the patriots that represent this country. that's what we need. >> reporter: but the more some iowans hear from ramaswamy, the more you hear questions about his foreign policy ideas. >> just do the math in your head. >> reporter: like giving parts of eastern ukraine to russia. >> i was the one that asked the question about ukraine. i think he's wrong about ukraine. >> reporter: and whether this ramaswamy moment is just that, a moment. >> he's the new flavor of the month. we've seen this in previous presidential races before. someone catches on and fade. >> absurd excuse for a presidential candidate, obnoxious, annoying, conspiratorial, little regard to the truth, ideologies, or the practicalities of american government. how do you respond to people who say, this guy is an opportunist? >> i guess i'm never going to debunk someone's preconceived notion. my job in this race is to tell everyone who i am and what i stand for. >> john, you mentioned his age. ramaswamy is actually the very first millennial republican candidate to run for president. so, is that reflected in his crowds? when we went to his events, we did notice that a majority of these crowds, these caucusers, tend to still be of a different generation, an older generation. but we did also see younger pe people. these younger voters, john, say the reason they come out in the first place, the reason they'd be interested in caucusing at all for the republicans is because of his age, that they felt some sort of connection to him. john? >> great work as always. thank you so much for that. so, two cnn senior political commentators join me now, adam kinzinger, and former obama senior adviser david axelrod. you just heard vivek ramaswamy say he's not a party man. he doesn't need the party. how much truth is there in that? >> well, i mean, i think it's probably right to an extent because the party, all it does is reflect candidates now. i don't think -- people still talk about a party structure. it doesn't exist. it doesn't exist really in the democrats or the republicans. they don't have any power. all it is is a vehicle for somebody to run in a primary. but he -- man, how much he has changed his views, how much he just wants to get attention, you know, that actually may work right now. and he's a smart guy. i don't know how smart he is on things like foreign policy. but he's smart enough to know at this moment what people are looking for is somebody that just says outrageous things. because for whatever reasons, that's what politics has become. >> david axelrod, he is getting a lot of attention. he's been on this meteoric rise to where he is right now. in your experience, does this kind of momentum -- you know, how much does it last? how much can it fizzle? >> well, look, i think there are two elements of this. i think adam's right. you know, he is observed the moment and he understands how to get attention and he understands the more outrageous, the more attention you get. the problem is the world champion of outrageous is on the ballot as well, and he's doing pretty well. so, he's basically fishing in a pond that isn't very productive because so much of the maga base, which really responds to his message, already is committed to trump. and so far there's no indication that they're going to leave him. now, the second thing is, you know, the nature of these races is the better you do, the more attention you get, the more scrutiny you get. so, that, you know -- i think sort of the maga folks don't care if he gets fact checked and the fact check comes back false. they're accustomed to that. but if there are people there in the republican party who actually want to move on from trump, who don't appreciate trump's style of politics, he's hardly the guy they're going to gravitate to because he's basically a trump -- you know, he's a trump -- updated version of trump himself. >> congressman, i want to shift gears to what we started this block on, which was this confusion over whether president biden will meet with governor ron desantis when biden goes down to florida to view the hurricane damage tomorrow. do you think the desantis team is worried about the logistics of it, as they said in a statement, or is it more about the optics? >> there's a 1 to 2% chance it's logistics. there's a 98 to 99% chance it's the optics. look, politics has become, from even ten years ago when there were moments you could put politics aside and do what you were actually elected to do, which is lead, help, all that kind of stuff -- it has now infected everything. and ron desantis, at the cost of the benefit to florida, has decided his political campaign cannot have him meet with joe biden, the president of the united states, who ultimately will be signing the checks that florida is going to be begging for. i mean, it is absolutely outrageous that at a moment -- i couldn't imagine being governor of any state having a tragedy like that and then turning around and thinking about how this could affect my election. it's just where we're at now and people have to just reject that. >> look, i mean, charlie crist practically changed parties because he greeted president obama warmly in florida when he was there. >> right. >> governor christie was on the debate stage a week ago. people are still criticizing christie for greeting obama. can you understand that? >> i thought about that. 12 years ago, chris christie during hurricane sandy, superstorm sandy, you know, greeted the president warmly, who was womaning to work with jersey to get them the resources they needed to deal with this incredible tragedy. and he was vilified for it. and it was a burden that he carried with him into his presidential race, and it was raised everywhere he went. it morphed into, you hugged obama, you know? and so adam's right. this is what our politics has become. and i do think there are a lot of americans who are hungry for something different. i just don't know that they're voting the republican primary. >> david axelrod, adam kinzinger, great have you on tonight. have a great weekend. next, inside the rural georgia county involved in the latest trump indictment. what locals have to say about the accusations. erizon. 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i mean, that show you right there it ain't just started. they've always been just like that. >> in the georgia indictment of donald trump and others, prosecutors -- election officials allowed trump associates to access voter data. but some locals say the allegations are right in line with the history of voter intimidation and suppression. >> are you surprised the breach happened? >> not at all because they knew they had somebody who would allow them to come in and do it. >> among those 19 mug shots, douglas city commissioner olivia pearson saw some familiar faces, fellow locals who she tangled with in past elections. >> olivia pearson is up to her normal handing out hamburgers and hot dogs. >> reporter: the majority black county seat for many years, and not everyone has been happy about it. >> all kinds of things happening in coffee county just to get people to come vote. yeah, it's not really a good situation down here. >> reporter: after the 2012 election, georgia investigated coffee county complaints that pearson assisted ineligible people. >> she signed on the back of it that she assisted you, and i was wanting to know. it's unmarked why she assisted you, and i was wondering why you needed assistance. >> because i can't read. i'm illiterate. >> reporter: the state didn't charge her, but local prosecutors charged her with two felonies, saying she helped other voters who were ineligible. after two trials, she was found not guilty in 2018. >> you would think it was murder, robbery, something that really done some damage to our community. but i was trying to help somebody who wanted to exercise their right to vote. >> reporter: then, while helping a woman vote in 2020, pearson asked about the buttons on a voting machine. she says misty hampton, the former supervisor now under indictment with trump, began yelling at her. >> misty just began yelling at the top of her lungs, that's what you got in trouble for last time, punching buttons or touching buttons or something to that effect. it struck a nerve for me because i was on trial fighting for my life for something i was not guilty of. so, i did raise my voice at that point. and i said to her, you're lying then like you're lying now. >> reporter: in a deposition, hampton said she spoke in a normal voice and that pearson was being disruptive. pearson left to pick up another voter, and when she returned police stopped her outside the polling place, saying she'd been banned. >> what happened? >> and i got arrested. i was put in handcuffs. >> in handcuffs? >> i'd never been arrested before. i didn't know, you know, it's so tight like that. >> it's just shocking to hear someone treated like they're a violent criminal. >> exactly. >> especially being an elected official. i stand up for what i believe is right. and some people have a problem with people when you speak out. >> reporter: at the time, she'd been driving yolanda williams, who agreed to talk if we didn't show her face. >> i was scared. i was telling ms. olivia, i didn't want to go back up there to vote, and i won't go back to vote because of everything that's going on. i didn't understand why they called this crooked coffee, but now i understand. >> why do you think it happened? >> because of the racism. >> hampton and former republican party chair cathy latham are accused of allowing associates to copy data. latham said she was not, quote, personally involved in the breach. >> do you see a connection between what happened to you and this big push after the 2020 election to dispute the vote totals in usually majority black cities, like atlanta, detroit, and so on? >> of course. there's a certain amount of power and control when you're in certain offices. some people would do whatever it takes to maintain it. and if it takes voter intimidation to do it, some people willing to intimidate people. >> reporter: the election commission initially denied surveillance footage of the breach existed. so far there's been no local investigation into what happened. hampton resigned in 2021 for falsifying time sheets. christy nielson is the election supervisor. >> the day they voted me into this particular position, the first thing our chairman said is, who gets behind the counter? i was like, nobody. >> reporter: now she said the public needs reassurance that the county's elections are secure. >> this has always been a small town and people have been close-knit, regardless of party or anything like that, we're all from coffee county. and this has kind of divided people in a sense. but i think it's like that across the whole country. it's not just here. >> reporter: that division was clear in our conversations around town. but even amongst trump voters, there was an openness to holding people accountable. >> if they had, i'm 100% against it. do i like trump? i wouldn't want him sitting at a table with me but yeah, i think he had good things. and i think right now that he is being, i don't know, maybe he should be held responsible. >> what do you say to black people in coffee county who say, well, actually i have faced discrimination here and there's a whole history of trying to keep black people from voting and it's not the '60s anymore but it's not perfect? >> i personally think that's bull. >> why? >> because they got the same right to vote i do. i mean, you know? they're in the military now. i mean, you know? there's no segregation to talk about. >> now, some people are in denial, especially around here, because they're friends with the folk from coffee county that's involved. and i know you're innocent until proven guilty, but that video speaks volumes. i hope it sheds more light. i hope those people in coffee county who were pointing their finger at me can really see now, you know, it was a bigger picture. >> elle reeve, cnn, douglas, georgia. >> thanks to elle for that report. just ahead we'll tell you where authorities think the murderer who broke out of prison yesterday might be headed now. ...in real time. 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