from tampa to tallahassee. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. you're in "the situation room." >> this is cnn breaking news. >> we are standing by for an urgent update from the governor of florida, ron desantis, on the hurricane disaster all along the state's gulf coast. this as hurricane idalia was just weakened into a tropical storm. but it is still packing a punch as it takes aim at georgia and south carolina. cnn correspondents are on the scene covering idalia's devastation in florida and the storm's assault on georgia happening right now. but first, let's go to john bierman in the city of perry. john, you just got there. what have you seen so far? >> reporter: yeah, alex, the storm made landfall on keaton beach. 18 miles due that way and then passed directly overhead here in perry. you can see some of the damage it did. i'm at roady's truck stop. you can see the wind just completely blew the awning over. it ripped up the brick there. twisted the metal. >> john, we have to go to governor desantis who's giving an update. >> and they probably gone through about 70% of the areas they need to to be able to check for people that are in distress and you know so far, all signs have been positive. there is of course a lot of debris to clean up but we will get working with that with the local communities to make sure that the roads are cleared and people can go back to their lives. as of 6:00 today, there are approximately 250,000 power outages reported across the state. since the storm hit. power's been restored to approximately 315,000 and that 250,000 number is actually a decline from what it was a few hours ago. so we appreciate the rapid attention to restoring power. clearly, the area that has the most significant percentage outages with those big bend counties that bore the brunt of the storm like columbia, madison, dixie. and people -- no shortage of fuel. we have more than enough fuel in the state of florida. if you're at a gas station that's not pumping it, largely is going to be a power issue. those that have generators can get that back up or when the power's restored but there's an abundance of fuel and we made sure to have that gone, ready to go. florida department of transportation has 224 cut and toss crews. thaifr been working to clear the roadways. the cedar key bridge has been cleared by fdot and residents, first responders and law enforcement can now pass. residents should follow the guidance of the local emergency and law enforcement personnel in terms of any type of restrictions that may be on that, but the bridge has been cleared by the state. all state bridges have been cleared. there is a 15-mile stretch of interstate 10 that is closed in madison county but fdot is working on that to have that back online by tonight. we have all resources have been deployed from urban search and rescue teams to florida national guard, the coast guard, the florida state guard, florida fish and wildlife. those are going to continue until there's no help needed. in terms of hospitals, in rural areas that received direct impacts, the facilities remain operational and open to the public and we're happy they were able to do that. throughout the state, there were ten evacuated hospitals. they reported minimal damage in nine of the ten will be at full operational status within the next 24 hours and working with the one remaining but we don't think it's going to take too much longer after that. after the storm, agency healthcare assessment teams must inspect healthcare facilities for sustained damage and they are in the process of making assessments for all evacuated healthcare facilities. our florida department of veterans affairs assisted one of florida's federally operated va hospitals with safely transferring veterans prior to the hurricane and we appreciate florida dva for stepping up in that. schools. 30 of the 52 school districts that closed due to the storm will reopen tomorrow and an additional eight school districts will reopen on friday. manny diaz is calling for the remaining school districts to try to get them open as soon as possible. we appreciate everybody's hard work. it's been a lot going on over these last few days. there's a lot to do but i think the quick response is helping everybody get back on their feet. okay, we're going to hear from some of the folks who have been involved in different areas of this response starting with kevin guthrie. >> thank you, governor. appreciate your continued support. >> that was the florida governor talking about the recovery efforts of his state in the wake of hurricane idalia, which is now a tropical storm. he said that of course the biggest impact was those big bend counties. that area where the florida panhandle meets the peninsula. he talked about those who are still without power. some 250,000 residents but that is actually a, that number has actually gone down. 316,000 residents had had their power restored. the governor going on to say that all of the bridges in the state have been cleared. i want to get back to john in the city of perry, florida. john, as we were saying, you have just arrived there. we can see the damage and destruction right behind you. describe the scene there for us. >> it's interesting. i saw governor desantis' motorcade driving to perry and out of perry so he saw this, too. this is the awning blown over by the hurricane which passed directly overhead here. it made landfall as a category 3 about 18 miles from here on the coast. with winds that must have been 105, 110 miles an hour. you can see the damage it did to the truck stop. all kinds of trees are down. it was a small storm in terms of size so the path of disruption fairly narrow but in that path, you see the exploded trees. trees that just don't exist anymore. they're just shredded. you see powerlines down. telephone poles ripped out of their foundation and we saw crews getting those wires bahck up. most of the gas stations from tallahassee to here were pumping gas. i was speaking to senator rubio today and he said he praised the national weather service for how accurate these forecasts have become and how much that helped prepare for this. the forecast for the last five days has almost been exactly where this storm made landfall so they were ready there and they've been ready here inland to get this recovery going as soon as they were able. that is what they're doing now. power still out in some places but people absolutely moving about, getting the trees out of the road, getting the leaves up off their lawn and they're ready to get back to work. >> it was remarkable to see all of those models in sync in terms of their predictions and just extraordinary scenes where you are seeing the roof of that rest stop on it side. terrific reporting. thank you so much. i want to go now to brian todd who is in tallahassee just north of that big bend region we were discussing where idalia made landfall. so, brian, i can see that damage behind you. give us the big picture assessment of how the destruction impacted the state from this hurricane. >> reporter: well, alex, very important piece of information from governor desantis just a moment ago was that the cedar key bridge is now reopened. cedar key saw its highest ever storm surge. 8 or 9 feet. people there were cut off. one resident there said the town doesn't like anything like it did but now the bridge has been reopened and first responders can get in. so that's going to be a critical factor in the hours ahead, just to see how much damage is there, if there's loss of life. again, one resident said they were worried about older residents in low lying areas there. not being accounted for. so we're going to get some critical information in the coming hours about cedar key. all state bridges according to the governor have been cleared. also, that stretch of i-10 was pretty much shutdown eastbound. they're working to reopen that by tonight but that's a major artery that remains clogged. some good news from the governor. 250,000 customers without power in florida. t that's a slight drop from an hour ago. in georgia, 112,000. so close to 460,000 customers in florida and georgia without power. the aftermath of this, now starting to dig out from 6,000 homes inundated in pascoe county north of tampa. real devastation in that county. you had two weather related deaths. separate car accidents. two men killed. those were the first known fatalities from the storm. also some reports of looting in taylor county, which was very hard hit. the governor alluded to that. so law enforcement has its work cut out for them in places like taylor county. and still, this storm is threatening, excuse me, large swaths of georgia and south carolina with really vicious, devastating winds and a possible flooding and it's only a tropical storm there. but still the storm has packed so much punch and is moving so fast that those areas in georgia and south carolina, especially near the coast, still pretty vulnerable right now. it was also interesting the governor said ten evacuated hospitals had to be shutdown during the storm. they hope to get nine of those back in tonight. so that's an update there regarding the hospitals. so that's kind of what we're looking at. in leon county, still 30,000 customers without power and they're telling us in these areas where i am, still you've got to be careful navigating the streets. there are a lot of downed powerlines. that's a real issue. people are a little free and loose going around the streets. they should not be. there's still a lot of danger on the streets that people may not see. >> brian, you did highlight the fears about cedar key. we'll be speaking with the sheriff where cedar key is in just a moment. he told us that they were bracing for something like they had never seen before. brian todd in tallahassee, thank you very much. now i want to go over to the cnn severe weather center where meteorologist chad myers has been tracking idalia for the past few days. what is the latest forecast? >> it is still a 70 mile per hour tropical storm. no longer a hurricane. hasn't been over water for a long time. it's been over land. the power of the storm has really gone down. something the governor talked about, there's a 15-mile stretch of interstate 10 that is closed between tallahassee and lake city. both directions. there are so many trees down that the roadway is still closed. traveling across east and west across northern panhandle or the big bend area of florida is virtually at a standstill right now. people are trying to take back roads. i'm looking at google earth. they're all red which means traffic is horrible. maybe put that off for a day until crews can get that tree damage down and out of the way so we can get this back opened up. what's going on right now? the storm is no longer a hurricane but it will still cause some beach erosion here there's also the potential for tornados. i believe litchfield beach area, especially west of it, may have had a tornado on the ground. i saw debris in the air near rotation but cannot find any pictures on the internet of any significant damage. maybe just tree limbs or leaves picked up by a small little spin up. that's what we can expect today. here are the storms as they come on shore. there's north myrtle beach seeing a healthy little storm system come on shore. i would have red boxes on here if there were tornado warnings and there are not. doesn't mean you should get out of the way of these. still lightning and wind from these outer bands and yes, almost 500,000 customers without power here in parts of florida, georgia, and even south carolina combined right now. powerlines are going back up, limbs are coming down. that means the trucks can get their buckets back up and put those lines up but it will take some time for those one or two or three customers that are out on the end of the line. that could take weeks. here's your rainfall in the carolinas. that could cause flooding. really worried about that after dark. you can't see the road is flooded and you drive into it so be careful. >> danger and destruction in at least four states. chad, thank you very much. florida emergency responders are now racing to assist residents endangered by idalia's rampage especially in the hard hit big bend region of florida. joined by the sheriff of levy county. thank you so much for joining us. again, we spoke to you as the storm was bearing down on that big bend area of florida. you told us this storm would be like nothing your county has ever seen before. so what are conditions there right now? >> actually, the weather's beautiful. sunshining again. rain is out of here. we have been blessed. we, fortunately and unfortunately for my neighbors north up, are blessed the storm is gone and it's further north. ended up putting us just outside of the cone on the right side, the east side of the storm, which was not really favorable to us either with the storm surges. what we ended up with is we didn't have the hurricane force winds thankfully. still had the surge and historical level of 6.8 feet and plus we had a high tide today at 2:00 that brought in water. so those were pretty much new records for us here but thankfully, we didn't have the wind. it was fairly quick moving and we had to deal with the storm surge. what it has allowed us to do is now the bridge is open to cedar key, we immediately and the yankee town area which was heavily hit, we began search and rescue fairly quickly after the storm passed today in those areas with my deputies. and their skips and airboats and we were able to rescue a few people that had stayed there. you know, we're fortunate today that both cedar key and the yankee town area, only been made aware two minor injuries. i think those were some falls that those stayed in their home, water coming into their homes. we, cedar key is a resilient community. many of these storms and actually in reality, even though we've had historic storm surge today that they're resilient. it hit a lot of our businesses and homes but they will come back and they already are. they're working hard. we have some extra help in. our florida sheriff association task force is amazing in florida. share together and help each other out. we have a group of about 40 special deputies from polk county with us to help both in security and in further search and rescue and even some of the clean up that we'll be doing fairly immediately. so we couldn't ask for any better result for us with what we were facing. we were prepared but we were prepared for the worst and again, we were very blessed to come out in the shape we're in. >> we certainly saw how afraid and nervous you were for your community. that is such a relief that you seem to have dodged the worst of this and we're thankful for that as well as for your time. sheriff, thank you very much. >> thank 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>> right now, we're more calmer than we had anticipated. we were predicted to get the highest and most severe winds and flooding between 5:00 and 10:00 tonight. so we still have a stretch to go. the winds are very high but fortunately we haven't had, we did have a report of someone who was injured whith a sign that fell on them. i think we'll have minor damages but right now, we're concerned about the flooding of the highway 80, which is the road to the mainland. at high tide, it often does have water that prohibits passage at certain points and with a high tide and the full moon that we're expecting tonight, we're very, very -- and the predicted 10 plus foot tide, we really are holding, keep our fingers crossed that that won't be too bad. if it is, we have the chatham county police and our tybee police will be closing the road to make sure that there's no damages or danger and we'll open it whenever it's safe. but right now, we're doing okay. we're doing better than our neighboring island, but i think it's, the winds are still moving east and we're in kind of a precarious situation with franklin still out in the atlantic. so we always prepare for the worst and pray and hope for the best. our residents and our visitors and our businesses are working together with our critical workforce to do everything that we can to encourage people to stay off the streets and take precaution and stay safe. that's our goal. >> and we are certainly hoping that they heed your warning and wishing you all the best as that storm blows through, mayor shirley sessions. thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up, we will go live to the national hurricane center for a new read on the danger from idalia this hour and then senator republican leader, mitch mcconnell, appear to freeze up while speaking with reporters after a similar incident just last month. demand... customer ...in n real time. 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>> reporter: as you can tell, the flooding is a significant factor. we are along one of the main streets here in crystal river and you can see it's still significantly flooded. the only vehicles that have been able to get across this intersection here and through this water are those that are high vehicles that have big wheels. now, if you look in this direction, this is where the river and the gulf of mexico meet at the end there and you can see how much water has come in. all of this water has been pushing inland and the concern is that if the tide continues to increase, even though the storm is over, still very much a factor to watch out for here. if any more of this water keeps pushing inland, it's going to be getting into some of these homes that are in this area. now, i've spoken to people who live here including a woman who's lived here her whole life. she's 64 years old. she's never seen the water come up this high and certainly not on this street. here in crystal river, they've done several water rescues. people who have had to be evacuated from their homes. the local fire department deploying airboats to the area. once you get over to that way, the water begins to recede but it's been just really rapidly shifting with every passing hour as the tide moves in and out and more of this water comes in. so even though the worst of idalia has made it out of florida, people here are still very much dealing with its aftermath and the recovery, the clean up, the assessment of damage is likely still a long while away. >> it's a lot of water and only the vehicles with the biggest tires can get through. gloria, thanks very much. let's go live to the national hurricane center and speak with its deputy director, jamie. thanks for being back with us. we saw all that water in chrystl river. where are you seeing the worst storm surge impact right now? >> the worst of it looks like it was near where it made landfall. keaton beach. eastward, affecting these really small communities like horseshoe beach and cedar key. it's too early to have an accurate assessment of how much surge occurred there because we don't have the communication but all indications are it was the once in a lifetime event. this hurricane, now a tropical storm, making its way into georgia, north into south carolina will also brush up against north carolina. how dangerous is it now? >> it's a really good question. this red area that you see behind me is where we think the heaviest rainfall and flood from rainfall is going to occur over the next several hours. probably in south carolina, it's already starting to occur and we end up losing a lot of people in these situations because they think that the downgrade to, from a hurricane to a tropical storm means that the risk has lessened but in this case, in these areas, the risk is really high. this is a good night not to be driving about. when the sun goes down, you won't be able to see flooded roads. a really good night to stay inside. >> jamie, we heard such dire warnings from you at the national hurricane center, from local officials, all over florida. was the impact in the end, particularly to the big bend region, as bad as you feared as when we spoke yesterday? 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>> well, there haven't been many details about the cause and the reason for the freeze moment we saw that looked a lot like the moment we saw back in july when mitch mcconnell froze for roughly 30 seconds on capitol hill. today, freezing for roughly 30 seconds in speaking to reporters in kentucky. they said he felt lightheaded and that's what led to the pause. they said he did consult with a physician in the aftermath of that episode but didn't give any indication about what that physician said before he went to another event later in the day. now, mitch mcconnell has had a number of health episodes this year. he's 81 years old. in march, he fell, hit his head. had a concussion. out for several weeks. he is a childhood survivor of polio so walks slowly. i asked senator mcconnell after the july incident whether this incident here, freezing moment on capitol hill, had anything to do with the fall in march. he would not say at that time other than the fact he is feeling fine and that's what his office is also saying. he is feeling fine and tried to indicate he's still moving ahead with his schedule. >> sanjay, what do you make of that explanation that he was simply lightheaded? >> it's a possibility. there's a long list of possibilities here. i think what we saw was pretty concerning. most people could see that. it was similar to what we saw in july where there was this freezing. it's the freezing of the speech. it's the freezing of the body. it's the tight sort of grasping of the side of the lecturn. one of his aides tried to come over and lift his arm. he was grasping tightly. his face even has this mask like feature to it. so there's a lot of things going on there. you know, people will talk about could this be some sort of vascular thing, like a transient attack, perhaps, although it's about 30 seconds he's frozen. a seizure, possibly something like that. it could be something like when somebody comes off of their medications for things like parkinson's when the medication start to wear off, they may start to have freezing episodes as well. it was about 30 seconds so it comes and it goes pretty rapidly. one of the things that was really noticeable is that when his aides approached him, they did not seem so surprised by this. got the impression that happens much more often. they didn't seem particularly alarmed by it. if it was the first time or an unknown thing. i think there would have probably been more of a rush or against in getting him to a doctor more quickly. last time, we're not sure he went to go see a doctor. he did this time. whatever this is, it's not unusual for him and his staff. >> yeah. that staffer didn't pull him away. he stood there and she asked if there were any more questions. but sanjay, this is the second incident like this in two months. but there have been other health scares for senator mcconnell. what else has he been through? >> yeah, there's been a timeline of things that we sort of looked at. if you go back over time, he's had these falls that manu has mentioned. he's had difficulty clearly hearing reporters' questions, going back to earlier in the summer. he fell in july. he's had significant falls in the past where he's dislocated his shoulder then most recently, these quote unquote freezing episodes. again, i want to emphasize this is what we see you know, just as we were talking about, that the aides are not that surprised by this. his doctors may not be surprised by this either. these types of things may be happening more often. this may be something they're aware of. again, for example, p parkinsonianism, it gets better but again, it is a long list that can cause those symptoms. >> manu, it is summer recess on capitol hill, but are you hearing anything else from the senator's fellow lawmakers? >> yeah, senator mcconnell was on the phone with a number of his key allies after this episode. he did talk to john thune as well as -- both are part of his leadership team. thune could be a successor for senator mcconnell if he decides not to be lead er in the next congress. still an open question. both told me tonight that senator mcconnell sounded fine. he was in good spirits and they say they look forward to seeing him next week. >> all right. we certainly hope he's okay and wish senator mcconnell all the best. dr. gupta, manu raju, thank you very much. just ahead, an update from one of the most badly damaged communities from the disaster zone in florida. don't let student loan debt hold you back. refi at sofi.com. you coululd save thousands and get to your goals faster. sofi. get your money right. >> woman: why did we choose safelite? 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