aboard our family-friendly skies ♪ >> cnn, new york. hello, again, everyone. thank you for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. we begin with live pictures from the nation's capital where thousands are gathering to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the historic march on washington. organizers say today's event is not a commemoration but a continuation of the dream dr. martin luther king jr. outlined at the lincoln memorial in 1963. cnn national correspondent jason carroll joining me live now from the march. jason, what can we expect and what are people saying? >> reporter: well, first of all, let me, fredricka, tell you where we are right here. as i've been telling you all morning long, we've been talking to people from all over the country and this is a sampling of what we've been seeing. i've been talking to people from california, from maryland, from ohio, from new york, from all across the country to talk about the issues being discussed here today. the speakers have been talking about voting rights. there's a real concern among the civil rights leaders that come out today that what was discussed 60 years ago in terms of voting rights still needs to be addressed today. i want to bring in two people who made the trek out here on this hot and muggy day here in washington. i want to talk to you two about the issues that matter most. you've been listening to the speakers. what issues resonated with you most? >> it's the voting rights. our voting rights are just diminishing and everything is going on that they're trying to take everything, everything, including starting with the voting rights away. >> listening to andrew young, he spoke a little earlier, he said that progress had been made, but the work continues. >> absolutely. it does still continue. i believe one of my issues is the banning of books. we're all human beings and what right does another human being have the right to tell another human being what to read? i just thank god i was born in 1963, i'm a 1963 baby. growing up, i remember laying on my mom's bed and reading about dr. martin luther king and they had a book with a cassette player. i remember that to this day. and i believe that we should all be able to read whatever we want to read. >> reporter: you're referring to educational rights. that has been talked about today. the teaching of u.s. history, specifically as it refers to african american history, and the feeling of some of those out here today that african american history is being erased. >> i agree. everyone needs to learn about each other and then we can have a better understanding of each other. >> reporter: i want to thank both of you for coming out. fredricka, so many share these similar opinions about voting rights, about educational rights. also another topic being discussed, economic quality. again, the overwhelming theme that you keep hearing over and over again, those who came here to march 60 years ago, back in 1963, some of those very same issues still an issue here in the country today. >> right, underscoring the continuation. jason carroll, thank you so much. now to the new developments in the georgia election interference case, two of the pro-trump attorneys charged in the case are asking for speedy trials. sidney powell has joined kenneth chesebro in requesting quick trials. a judge has scheduled an october trial for cheschesebro and fani wants a trial for all defendants at the end of october. the defense team for former president donald trump is trying to delay the start. trump and his 18 co-defendants are facing a variety of charges, including racketeering and conspiracy. they all surrendered ahead of yesterday's noon deadline, and today one of the 19 co-defendants remains in the fulton county jail. last night a judge declined to set bond for harrison floyd, a leader of black voices for trump. during a hearing, he told the judge that he could not afford to hire an attorney. the judge informed him that he didn't meet the eligibility requirements for obtaining a public defender. cnn's jeremy herb is joining us now. jeremy, what comes next in the case? >> reporter: fred, now that we have the surrender from all 19 defendants, we get into this very complicated stage of the trial of how this is going to unfold, and one of the issues that you raised is when will the trial unfold? we've had the two defendants who want to have a trial that could be as soon as october, which is what the district attorney, fani willis wants. the former president and his lawyers do not want to have a trial so quickly so that issue is going to have to be litigated ahead of the trial. another issue is which venue is this trial going to take place in, whether it's going to be in state court or federal court. we've seen 5 of the 19 defendants that have made a request to move their cases to federal course, that includes mark meadows, jeffrey clark, the former doj official, and three georgia officials who served as fake electors. now, one of the reasons they're doing this is that the jury pool in fulton county, it's a very blue county, if you move it into the federal district, you include more of the county surrounding fulton county, which gives you potentially a more pro-trump jury pool. on monday there will be a hearing for mark meadows' request and we could get a preview of the case against meadows and the other defendants as fani willis has subpoenaed other witnesses to testify, including brad raffensperger, the secretary of state, who was at the center of trump's phone call where he asked him to find enough votes to win. so on monday we potentially will learn more about the next steps in the case. >> jeremy herb, thank you so much. with me now to discuss this further is kay levine, a professor of law at emory university school of law. great to see you. so i think everyone, conventional wisdom is everybody always wants a speedy trial. why is this unique that they would want a speedy trial when there are other defendants who are saying, namely the former president, who are saying, no, let's wait a bit? what are the pros and cons? >> i actually wouldn't agree with the statement that everybody always wants a speedy trial. speedy is kind of in the eye of the beholder. we have a u.s. constitutional provision that guarantees everyone a speedy trial, we have statutes that guarantee it, and yet most cases take a very long time to work their way through the court system. a case of this complexity with the amount of evidence the prosecutor's office still needs to disclose, suggests that any well-regarded defense attorney would want quite a lot of time in order to review all of that material and prepare an adequate defense. so what is a bit surprising is that these moves are being made by members of the defense team before they've seen the mountain of prosecution evidence coming their way. >> is this really an attempt to challenge the prosecution, to say chesebro and powell, to say we want speedy, which means we know you can't pull it together fast enough? >> that's how it seems to me. it's like they're calling the bluff of the d.a.'s office to say are you really ready to go, given the complexity of the case, the number of counts. and fani willis has responded saying i'm absolutely ready to go. she's calling their bluff now. >> interesting. all right, so would that be adhered to? >> well, when the defense requests the motion for a speedy trial, in georgia there's a set amount of time that the courts have to respond to that. so if the prosecution says, sure, they're not contesting it or trying to raise any kind of legal challenge to the date suggested by the defense team, then i think we could expect to see a trial in october if both sides then announce ready as we get closer. >> so now advantages, disadvantages for chesebro and powell to combine their cases. should they? >> it's hard to say. each of these 19 defendants has been charged with a rico count, and then reach of them has a smattering of some of the subsidiary counts in the indictment. so if powell and chesebro are similarly situated in terms of the other counts that have been charged against both of them, then it would make sense for the prosecution to go forward against both of them at the same time. it's more efficient. you're presenting the same witnesses, making the same arguments and the umbrella of evidence and the argument that goes around that evidence would apply equally to both of them, although each of them would have to be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. so there's an efficiency gain for the courts and d.a.'s office to go forward together. each gains by not being associated with some of the more serious players who have been alleged in the conspiracy. oftentimes defendants say i want to server myself from the larger group because i don't want to be prejudiced by any of the evidence that really goes to the other defendants, but doesn't apply to me. it can be hard for jurors to separate out which set of evidence goes to which defendant. so a defendant says, i will get a fairer trial if the case is just against me or me and this one, instead of me and all of the others. >> might this also be part of a larger plot where chesebro and powell, you know, allow their cases to go forward so that it might be advantageous for other co-defendants, namely the former president, now that they'll be able to see what the prosecution's case is, they'll get an upper hand, will they not, when it comes time to defend their cases? >> very possibly. they will get to see the witnesses testify, although witnesses get sort of locked into statements that they make under oath, under penalty of perjury subject to cross-examination, such that if they were to testify differently at a future trial, this becomes a basis for impeachment. the basis is a prior inconsistent statement made by this person, that then suggests to the jurors maybe they were not to be believed then or they're not to be believed now. but mostly it would be an advantage for all of the other defendants to see just how strong the prosecutor's case is. >> quickly, do you think mark meadows and jeffrey clark stand a good chance of getting their cases moved to a federal court? >> very hard to say. in order to successfully remove a case to federal court, vu to show you were a federal official in all of the acts that were complained about, and they were done in the scope of your federal employment. the challenge for both of them, and more so for meadows than clark, is that the behaviors that he's alleged to have engaged in were, i think, on behalf of trump the candidate and not trump the federal official. >> does it matter if we're talking about you know that it is against the law, you know that trying to get fake electors is not sanctioned, whether you're a citizen or whether you're a federal employee? >> so just getting it into federal court doesn't mean it's a win for the defense, it just means that the case would be tried in federal court, with a jury drawn from the wider pool of the northern district of georgia. but it's still fani willis, it's still all of the state charges, and a conviction would still lie in terms of the georgia court system. so just getting it into federal court is not a big win for the defense. it would be just one step towards what they presumably think would be a more favorable setting in order to have the charges heard. >> professor, great to see you. >> thanks for having me. still to come, businesses across maui are taking a hit after those devastating wildfires swept across parts of the island more than two weeks ago now. how some are trying to get back on their feet next. plus, backlash continues to grow over a controversial kiss the president of the spanish soccer federation gave to one of the team's star players at the world cup. now fifa is stepping in. how is it handling the fallout? 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how is everyone doing? >> so down here in this area, to be honest with you, most of us boat operators are laid off at this time, unfortunately with the message that was sent out immediately, which is don't come to maui. we definitely feel for lahaina and everything going up there. we've been helping out as much as we can with the boats. but, yeah, right now it's pretty bad. it's shaping up to be worse than the covid economic impact on us. >> my goodness. so tell me about this. i guess the conflicting messages. well, i think most people understood, initially the message was don't come to maui because we want to make sure all the resources that are available are devoted to the victims of the fire or the retrieving and the searching for people, and it was still in the very early stages. but then many other people on other parts of maui were saying, wait a minute, you know, we rely on tourism, and if no one comes, then there go our businesses. so i'm hearing you, you are on that latter end. you want people to come to maui to continue to allow your business and other businesses to thrive. so how do people kind of thread that needle? because understandably, a lot of people are staying away because maybe they feel guilty about going to maui and having a good time when there is so much suffering. >> sure, we definitely understand that. what we're looking for is responsible tourism. people that are still willing to come out and still enjoy themselves with the areas that haven't been impacted, and also still have an opportunity to go up to lahaina, to help maybe donate one of their days of vacation to go up to help the people of lahaina in their recovery efforts, to really learn what our true aloha spirit is, so they can see what it is we do as a community to help the victims of lahaina. i've got a lot of friends and family up there that have been impacted as well. a great buddy of mine, archie, has been one of the main guys up there helping distribute product, getting water, towels, places for people to stay. so the community effort is there, yet we're getting cancellations for christmastime, we're getting cancellations for the first of the year time. typically that's when most of us are able to stay busy throughout the year. we're taking up to, say, 25 to 40 people a day, and now in this past week we barely did 13 people. >> that's significant. >> yeah, this coming up week, we've only got seven people booked so far. we're not the only boat company in this situation. red line rafting, blue water, all the boat operators, we're all in the same situation. >> you're really worried about your business and how much longer it can sustain itself with that kind of drop-off of clientele. so what is needed, perhaps if not from the tourism industry, but maybe local, federal government, how might they be able to assist if you don't have the tourist dollars? >> well, if they could set us up with another deal like the ppp forgiveness loans, that would definitely help. the issue with the sba offering loans is that we're still going to have to pay that back and it's going to take us years to recover. we're barely recovering as it it was from the covid. tourism was only starting to come back in the last year back to the numbers we had seen previous to covid. and now with all of this happening, we don't know what's going to happen in the future. we don't know if we're still going to be in business this time next year. >> it sounds very worrisome. we're wishing you the best, and of course all of your fellow colleagues, members of the community, that things will pick up and get better, and hopefully many are hearing your call and your pleas for some real urgency. captain, thank you so much. all the best. >> mahalo, thank you. coming up, some major new developments today in the controversy over spain's soccer chief, who kissed a female player on the lips at the world cup. we'll have the details straight ahead. for freeee. that's what i'm talking about. order in the subway app today. my cpa told me i wouldn't qualify for the erc tax refund, so i called innovation refunds. their team of independent tax attorneys will work with you cpa to determine if your company is eligle. 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>> oh, i'm sure. people go to loch ness with an expectation they're going to see something. a lot of times it's logs or other things. but there's high hopes. that's why you go there, with the hope of answering the mystery. >> of course. so what would cause those flickers? if they see those flickers on the water, they're going to feel like that may be -- that might be nessy or something like it? >> i'm not sure what nessy's pronouns are. ness nessy is probably fine. often it's going to be wind. there are reflections, sometimes there's they're caused by heat off of the water. there are whirl winds that spin across the water and weird things that happen. there's underwater waves, objects that were buoyant because it's a different temperature from one end to the other, they sink and they rise. sometimes they're going against the current. the physics of the place are quite interesting. >> so you said weird things happen underneath the surface there, so what was your discovery? why are you very convinced there is no such thing as the loch ness monster? what was the evidence that you were searching for as a geneticist in order to determine whether it exists or not? >> thanks, that's a really good question. so, really, i'm not a believer in the loch ness monster, quite a skeptic, to be honest. but i was open to the idea that i might be wrong, so we went there with an open mind. so we were looking to see what sort of dna we might find, so the basic idea was nessy was a biological creature and there would be traces of its passing in the water, if it's a large creature, presumably leaving large amounts of material behind. for example, like whales, we can easily detect whales if we go out and about, sampling along paths that we know they've crossed. so we were just looking basically for monster dandruff, but more importantly, we were looking to see what species we could find and describe the bio diversity there. it was really an opportunity to show the environment, and throw a new lens on the world. >> that search ended up being futu futile? >> it was all relatively mundane. we found 13 species of fish, things like salmon and trout and various other things, and we tested a variety of hypothesis that had been put forward to explain the loch ness monster. obviously the reptile is an extinct creature, but we have a good guess of where in the tree of life that sequence would sit, and we didn't find anything that looked remotely like that. we didn't find reptilian dna there, which is quite hard to find. we found quite a lot of eel dna. whether it was just ordinary eels, whether they were giant, hard to know. there's stories of people seeing eel-like creatures, 20 or 30 feet in length. in the '80s, there are stories of it being clogged up with eels as thick as a man's thigh. no samples, no photos or physical evidence that's ever been accumulated for the loch ness monster. eek logically it is actually a deep, dark lake. it's not productive. there isn't a lot of food. back in the '70s people made calculations that suggested if there was such a creature, a giant marine reptile, you might be able to keep about 20 of them based on all the food that's available there. that is unlikely to create a viable population. >> well, still the fascination exists, doesn't it? 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