the former president's efforts to overturn the state's 2020 election, arrested in georgia today. his attorney will join us live. as we are learning new details about rudy giuliani's legal trouble as head of his arrest. plus, breaking news, a trump employee at mar-a-lago is changing his story about erasing videos now that his attorney is no longer being paid for by trump's allies, according to a new court document. now the special counsel is investigating. and 100 strikes in 24 hours. russia dramatically escalating its attacks as ukraine fires back, hitting a building not far from moscow. let's go "outfront." good evening, i'm brianna keilar in for erin burnett. and "outfront" tonight, we have breaking news. turning on trump. federal prosecutors claiming tonight that a trump worker at mar-a-lago initially lied to prosecutors about trump's efforts to erase videos at mar-a-lago. then he got a new attorney, one who wasn't being paid for by trump allies. he changed his testimony. we're going to have much more on this development coming up. but also tonight, we are following just a flurry of activity out of georgia as officials prepare for former president donald trump to turn himself in thursday at the fulton county jail. today the first two trump codefendants surrendered. one of them trump lawyer john eastman, a key player in trump's plan to overturn the 2020 election results. eastman defiant after being processed at jail. >> do you regret attaching your name to the former president? >> nonwhatsoever. the president called and asked for representation. i think every citizen in my position should be willing to stand up for him. >> eastman was a key figure in the fake electors scheme in georgia and other states, and the alleged mastermind behind the six-step plan for having then vice president mike pence overturn joe biden's election victory. the indictment reads, in part, quote during a telephone kwoel they attempted to persuade or return the slates of presidential electors to state legislators. this was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy. as cnn has reported, john eastman is also unindicted co-conspirator number two in special counsel jack smith's federal election case against trump. cnn also learning exclusively tonight that rudy giuliani, trump's one-time lawyer and one of his codefendants in fulton county, still has not found a georgia-based lawyer to negotiate his surrender. we have paula reid "outfront" at the fulton county courthouse. paula, let's start with your brand new reporting here about rudy giuliani. why is he having such a hard time securing a georgia lawyer, and what happens if he doesn't by friday? will he just be arrested? >> reporter: well, brianna he's currently facing seven-figure legal debt. he's had trouble paying many of his attorneys, which of course make it's hard to retain or even attract a new counsel down here in georgia to help him through this prosecution. we've learned, though, that former new york police commissioner bernie kerik, one of his longtime closest friends, has agreed to help him through this. bernie kerik is not an attorney, but he does have extensive experience. he's helping rudy through this, reaching out to lawyers here in georgia to try to get someone who will agree to represent them. but, brianna as of now, all rudy needs is someone with a georgia law license who's willing to just sign a bond agreement so that rudy can go and surrender. this doesn't have to be a longtime relationship. this is not going to be permanent representation. right now all they need is one lawyer who will sign that bond agreement. and it appears they'll be able to find that. but then they'll need to continue to hunt for someone who will represent rudy throughout the course of this case. now, if he was to not surrender by friday, yes, he could potentially be detained. >> that would be something. so we'll be watching to see how this plays out. what are we finding out about what may await former president trump on thursday based on his codefendants who surrendered today? >> reporter: we saw two of his codefendants surrender today. the cog orify down here in fulton county is that you negotiate a bond agreement and then go through that process of surrender. we saw a bail bondsman and conservative attorney john eastman, they both went through this process. and as part of this process, they were fingerprinted, had to fill out a lot of forms. and then each of them had a mugshot taken. and any minute we could get those mugshots. the former president, his process will be similar with a caveat that he has secret service protection. so it's likely that the facility, the fulton county sheriff's office will be restricted during the time he's in there. that could help him move just a little bit quicker. but the d.a. is adamant that he will be treated like any other defendant. >> paula reid, thank you so much live for us from atlanta. "outfront" tonight, john e eastman's attorney is with us. harvey, thank you so much for being with us. can you give us a sense of how it went today as your client turned himself in? >> completely as predicted. he turned himself in and put up a bond and was released. that is all that was supposed to happen and all that did happen. >> he had a mugshot taken. any other details you can share with us about the process? >> no. it was completely unremarkable. >> eastman made clear in his comments today that he still believes the election was stolen. he is very loyal still to president trump. why is he confident that trump will not hang him out to dry and try to make him the scape goat for these alleged crimes? >> well, remember that eastman is unique among all these defendants. his role was 100% that of a lawyer, trying to come up with creative ideas that push the margin of the law in order to reverse the electoral college count. so he's unique. he is on trial for being a lawyer who is coming up with creative ideas. he is unique. and he doesn't -- and of course trump might say he relied on eastman's advice because he did. eastman was his lawyer. so, i wouldn't call that throwing anybody under the truck. >> he certainly is making the case that he was unique. today your client said he was targeted for, quote, zealous advocacy on behalf of his client, something that attorneys are ethically bound to provide. i'm sure that you are familiar with the federal indictment of former president trump that says that on december 31, 2020, your client, john eastman, submitted a filing on trump's behalf, affirming false election fraud allegations in georgia, and that before that eastman, before he filed that according to the document, he acknowledged in an email in writing that he had, quote, been made aware that some of the allegations and evidence proffered by the experts has been inaccurate. and that signing a new affirmation with that knowledge -- and i'm quoting here -- an incorporation by reference, would not be accurate. does eastman think that he was ethically bound to make those knowingly inaccurate statements in court on behalf of trump? >> first of all, you used the word knowingly and accurate a little bit loosely. these were way-out theories that could change the result. and eastman was throwing them out. and nobody was threatened, nobody was bribed, nobody was coerced. it is not a crime to try to, without threats, to try to convince somebody to change their mind about something. and that is the difference between this case and traditional rico cases, which are used against organized crime in order to try to get criminal enterprises that rely on murder and mayhem and all kinds of things like that. nobody was blackmailed, nobody was threatened. >> well, i'm not the one using the term inaccurate. your client is saying "would not be accurate." and that's a quote. that's his quote from an email. >> right. but that is not a crime. he didn't coerce or bribe or threaten anybody to take his word. he was throwing them out. the authorities -- >> harvey, just to back up a little bit here. i'm talking about the fact that he was submitting in court a filing that he had prior to that admitted would be inaccurate. >> so, a judge can hold a contempt hearing. this is not a case justifying a racketeering indictment. if there is -- if he was inaccurate, that could be taken up in a contempt hearing, it can be taken up in a bar proceeding. but this is a gigantic rico thing, which is trying to put on eastman's lap everything done by everybody else. and i'm not saying everybody else committed a crime. i'm agnostic on that question. i'm only interested in eastman. >> you're a lawyer. do you knowingly make false statements in court on behalf of your clients? because this will be up to the court to determine how significant those statements were and what the charges would be for that. i mean, that is what we've seen from the d.a. would you make false statements knowingly? >> no, i never have. i consider myself in a vulnerable position. i'm a civil liberties and criminal defense lawyer, and i dot my is and cross my ts very carefully. but that doesn't mean that if somebody is less careful that they've committed a federal or a state rico offense. >> so, i do want to ask you about the federal case in this, because he is right now the unindicted co-conspirator number two in that. we have the d.c. grand jury still meeting. i know you're watching that as well. do you expect that eastman is going to be indicted in the federal case? do you have any reason to believe that he might be in the clear? >> well, i'm sort of puzzled that he's an unindicted co-conspirator, and an unindicted co-conspirator could be indicted at any time. my suspicion, i've become a little bit of a cynic in my 50-something years of doing this work. is that the feds are going to approach us hoping to turn him into a witness in saying that they're going to indict him if he doesn't turn into a witness. now, if you and i engaged in this conduct, it would be a crime. it's called extortion. when prosecutors do it, it's par for the course. the same is to a plea bargaining. they'll say to you if you go to trial we're going to recommend to the judge a 20-year sentence. if you become a government witness, we'll recommend that the sentence be suspended. if you and i did that, we would be indicted for extortion, for making threats in order to get the person to act as you want. the prosecutors do it all the time. the system is riven with this kind of misbehavior. but because they're the prosecutors -- >> so you're saying you anticipate that, so i'm assuming that you have not been approached. you anticipate that. what would he do? >> not been approached. what would he do? i'll tell you one thing about john eastman. he's a very religious man. he will not testify falsely. he will not take an oath to his god and to his government to testify truthfully and then testify falsely. he is not going to be a government witness. >> harvey, we appreciate your time this evening. attorney for john eastman, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. and "outfront" next, we have breaking news. federal prosecutors claim a worker at trump's mar-a-lago is now changing his story about efforts to erase videos at mar-a-lago now that his new attorney is no longer being paid for by trump's allies. plus, throwing trump under the bus. a former top republican in georgia who was indicted now claims he was just following trump's orders when he tried to overturn the state's election. and we take you inside the difficult process of finding and identifying the victims as more than 800 people are still missing on maui. how can you sleep on such a firm setting? 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"outfront" now we have karen friedman, who's a former chief assistant district attorney in the manhattan d.a.'s office, and a former executive assistant district attorney in fulton county who worked with d.a. fani willis. karen, just your reaction here to the special counsel saying that this i.t. worker at mar-a-lago changed his testimony after switching lawyers to a lawyer who is not paid for by trump interests. karen, can you hear me? i think we're having maybe a technical issue with karen. so we're going to try to fix that. >> i can hear you. >> oh, you can hear me. what do you think about this development -- >> i can only hear you. you can hear me? can you hear me, karen? okay. she doesn't hear me. i'm going to go to you, clint. clint, what do you think about this new development? this seems like it could really impact the former president in this case about the documents. >> right. and good evening, brianna, and thank you for having me. i think from the prosecutor's perspective, this could potentially be really a blockbuster. certainly when there is a conspiracy case like has been alleged, having someone who can give you a glimpse behind the curtain certainly is very v advantageous. the information i think is really, really valuable for the government. >> that's a very interesting point, about the credibility. i do wonder, though, because we saw something similar happen in the january 6th hearings. i think even in the case of cassidy hutchinson, someone who switched lawyers from someone who was paid for by a trump interest. and then she became a star witness. so, there were certainly questions about her credibility. but in the end she didn't really seem to suffer from it. what do you think this could mean? >> i think, look, whenever you have somebody who in the past has told a different story, that will obviously come out in front of a jury. and so typically as a prosecutor you have to corroborate what they have to say, or at least give an explanation for why it is that their story has changed. and like cassidy hutchinson, her explanation made a lot of sense and she came across as very credible. so that's what the prosecutors will have to do when making a decision about whether or not to put on somebody who had previously lied or told a different story. >> clint, of course, i want to ask you about what is happening in fulton county, georgia, where you were a prosecutor for decades. what do you think that trump surrender is going to look like? we hear authorities stressing it's going to be the usual procedures. but i wonder if there are some that maybe are not going to be used, a physical search, a medical check, some things. what do you think? >> well, certainly i think there is nothing unusual about this case. i think it is historically significant on a very, very high level. and while certainly fulton county and atlanta has seen its share of really high-profile defendants and cases, i think this one has made its way to the top of that stack. certainly through the secret service and the coordination with the fulton county sheriff's department, they will come up with a protocol that will safely ensure that the former president is able to get in and get out very smoothly without any issues with respect to his safety. i think the normal processes with inside the fulton county jail will take place. and so i would expect that fingerprinting and general booking will take place. and hopefully on the part of the secret service, at least, and the fulton county sheriff, i'm sure, they will want to get this situation over as quickly as possible. >> yes, and i think we do expect that we will see that. karen, a really interesting development, one of the 18 codefendants of the former president in georgia is now actually pointing a finger at the former president saying in a new court filing that he, quote, acted at the direction of the incumbent president and other federal officials. that's a filing coming from a former gop chairman in georgia who led the state's delegation of fake electors. he also says that he was told by trump's lawyers, quote, verbally and in writing that the republican electors meeting was consistent with counsel's advice. what is that going to mean, do you think, for the former president? >> it potentially could mean, i think, a lot of trouble for him because it could be a witness used against him if he does decide to enter into a cooperation agreement or if he pleads guilty and then is called as a witness to testify. but it's one thing, the january 6th people who stormed the capitol, they also thought they were acting at the direction of the president. but they didn't necessarily have a conversation with him about it. so it will depend on what schaffer actually says. did he have a conversation with the president or someone who worked for the president, and did he say to him, okay, this is what you should do. because if that's the case, then i think that puts donald trump in more serious legal jeopardy than he's already in. the reason schaffer is saying it or one of the reason is because he wants to remove this case to federal court. >> that's right. he wants to move this from georgia to federal court, and something that we will be watching to see if he has any success there. karen friedman, and clint, thanks so much for both of you for being with us. >> thank you. 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i don't know. >> reporter: she has a ringside seat here in the sprawling suburbs of milwaukee where republicans will not only gather tomorrow night for their first primary debate but also convene next summer in the same arena to crown the party's nominee at the gop convention. wisconsin has long been a vital stop on the road to the white house. a battleground and bellwether that went for joe biden in 2020 and donald trump in 2016. eight candidates will be on stage for the debate. but not trump. former wisconsin governor scott walker, a one-time trump rival, believes that's a mistake. >> when i sit next to him at this first debate eight years ago in cleveland, this was a guy who took over the debate. i think it's a missed opportunity for him not to come here to milwaukee and try and take charge again. >> reporter: as walker sees it, trump is not only competing in the primary, he also could start trying to win over some of the voters who once supported him. >> if they see him fighting not for the sake of fighting but fighting for them, fighting for their families, fighting for their schools, fighting for their economic survivability, then i think he starts to pull some of those voters back. >> reporter: quinn lan, an independent, would be in that camp. when we met first the final weeks of the 2020 campaign, she was torn. she ultimately voted for trump. now she's intent on sizing up the field. is there anyone who stands out to you at this point or a few people? >> well, i'm still learning about all of them. i've been really interested in desantis, haley. >> reporter: she wants to hear the candidates talk about education, the economy, and crime. she fears biden is too old. and for now, is withholding judgment on trump. >> yeah, he's not my first choice. but, yeah, let's see what my choices are. >> reporter: democrats are also laser focused on wisconsin. with the biden campaign on the air with a new tv ad. what this debate is about is one of us versus joe biden. the chairman of the wisconsin republican party said the attention makes clear his state will help settle a larger debate, whether it's a rematch between biden and trump, or not. >> i don't think anything's inevitable. history is full of folks who were ahead early and then didn't end up the nominee in both parties. >> reporter: so we will see if history is a guide for the 2024 campaign. but, brianna, there is no question talking to voters here around the suburbs of milwaukee, they are just beginning to tune into this presidential campaign. so many opportunities for some of those candidates to make a first impression, even though donald trump, of course, will not be here tomorrow night. though he is looming large over all of this. one year from now in this building right behind me here, the republican nominee will be crowned. the question is, will it be trump or one of these other candidates on the stage. brianna? >> what a year it will be. jeff zeleny, thank you for that report. and "outfront" now, david axelrod, former senior adviser to president obama, and a republican strategist and trump 2020 senior campaign adviser. you heard scott walker, former governor of wisconsin, and the latest republican to say it's a mistake for trump to skip the debate. do you agree with him? >> no, brianna. by the way it's kind of scary that we've got a year to go until the -- we're going to do this for another year. everybody, strap in. listen, i think scott walker's wrong on this. trump only has one way to go if he shows up, is down. you're ahead 30 plus points. he has a commanding lead. he's sucking up all the oxygen in the room. if somebody lands a glove on him during the debate, he goes down. i think at this point in the campaign he's smart for staying away, he'll do some counter-programming tomorrow, he's going to be in georgia on thursday. and i'm not so sure that anybody's going to be talking about the debate past tomorrow night. so, i think the former governor's wrong. >> maybe not with trump reporting to the fulton county jail on thursday for sure. so, david axelrod, you are so familiar with primary debates. you prepared then senator obama for more than 20 of them in 2008. but it was a very different situation. what would you say to your candidate if they were, you know, tens and tens of points ahead of their closest competitor and they're thinking of not going to a debate? >> well, this is so unlike any other circumstance. he's not just tens and tens ahead. he's almost 40 points ahead. and no one's ever lost the nomination with that -- no one has ever been under four separate indictments either, and that adds an air of uncertainty to it. but i hear scott walker say this will give him a chance to win voters over and tell him that he's on their side and fighting for them. they believe that now. his 50% plus believe that now. if you poll who's on our side, who's fighting for us, they say it's trump. i think he's smart to stay away. i think it puts a lot of pressure on all the other candidates. and particularly governor desantis who started off his whole strategy was based on i'm the guy, i'm the alternative to trump, everybody else is superfluous and he's done nothing but slide ever since he entered the race. and now he's under a lot of pressure to perform here, or his big donors and supporters are going to start looking elsewhere. and that wouldn't necessarily be the case if trump were on the stage. >> i mean, really, to that point, desantis is behind trump by 40, depending on the poll, 40, 50 points nationally. but, david urban, when you look at this week's des moines register iowa poll, it's a little bit tighter. desantis is 23 points only behind trump. but that's huge. 66% of trump's supporters say their mind is made up. desantis has no doubt lost ground. do you think that he can really turn it around with a debate? >> i think it's going to be challenging. i think he's going to need to show a lot of humanity, some personality, and maybe have a good line or two. and i think it's more important in iowa is to visit all 99 counties, get out and make the case personally. this is a retail game in iowa. the joke in iowa is you ask a voter who they're going to support, do you like ron desantis? well, i don't know, i've only met him three or four times so far. people in iowa, they want you in their living rooms sitting down having supper with them. there is a case to be made. you could come back, but it requires a lot of work. and it's pushing a big rock up a hill at this point. >> brianna, we should say on iowa that desantis' numbers, his favorability among republicans there, is still quite high. he still has an opportunity, but he has been stumbling over himself for several weeks, really months here now. his message has shifted around. he wanted to be trumpier than trump. that didn't work because people liked the original better. so he has to find a winning message here. and it has to be on that stage tomorrow night. >> what would you advise these candidates -- many of them, all of them, i guess -- to do in order to stand out? >> well, look. debates are, they're watched by millions, but what really lives are these viral moments. so you want to land a line that's memorable, that gets in the mashups of the debate. but you want that line to say something about your candidacy and who you are. it can't just be a glib line. i think what a lot of these -- tim scott is a very appealing guy, and people like him. but right now he's more biography than message. and he needs to display a message. nikki haley needs to display an incisive message that says this is why she is different, not just because she is a she or because of her story, but this message makes her different. and then you have to get it boiled down to those one or two good lines. it's really a hard task, especially with eight people on the stage. >> look, a lot of anticipation for this. but we don't know what the moment's going to be. we know there will be one that we're going to see. but we'll have to wait and see what it is. david axelrod, and david erwin, thank you to you both. 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"outfront" now, robert mann, a forensic anthropologist who just returned to ohau. robert, thank you so much for being with us. i know that the devastation must have been horrible to witness and that the folk there is on maui are dealing with so much. can you give us a sense of what forensic teams are going through to try to identify people? >> hi, briana. yes, they've got very large kings over there. a very wide array of forensic specialists so we're over there right now with anywhere from ten to 13 forensic anthropologists. o dontologists, forensic dentists, radiologists, dna specialists. i think what they're continuing to do is we've got two ends of the spectrum here. the scene where the wildfire was and so that's going to be the recovery area and then we have the identification process. so we've got teams that are out doing the recoveries and searching, recovering as much they can. everything they find will go back to the morgue to the forensic facility and that's where the teams and identification specialists such as i are working together to make the identifications. it can seem like a slow process but it's a very tedious process in that we have protocols and procedures that we have to follow and those protocols and procedures insure we do everything accurately and thoroughly but perhaps more than anything else, we do everything correctly and right. we don't ever want to make a mistake. >> it's so important to do this correctly. robert, we hear this number. more than 800 still missing and i think one expectation is you know that hopefully that number is going to shrink dramatically. that there are family members who have found loved ones. maybe they haven't cleared them off the list. but is that what you're expecting? >> it is. when it comes to the numbers of the unaccounted for or the lost or the missing, the number's really difficult to try to narrow down and get an accurate number. we're dealing with this wildfire in an open population versus a closed population whereas in an airplane crash for example, if there's 250 people that are manifested on the plane, the plane crash, you know you're looking for 250 people. so that's a closed population. an open population such as what we're dealing with on maui now is we have residents, we have tourists and people passing through so to really come up with a precise number is a really difficult thing to do. it's not in my wheel house, it's nothing something i'm a part of, but i can see how complex that would be. >> robert, you've worked many mass casualty events. what's the impact on families and communities not knowing about their loved ones? >> it's horrific. you know, i don't have the opportunity to meet with the families in what we're doing because i'm spending all my time in the morgue just doing what we need to do. but i can only imagine how terrible this is. i have family of my own and i've said it before. if one of my family members was missing in an incident like this, i would want people to move heaven and earth to make sure they were doing everything they can to recover my loved one. we're doing everything we can. i think we're doing the best we can. we're giving it our best. >> you certainly are, robert. and thank you so much for the work you're doing. robert mann. appreciate your being with us. next, a hospital power outage leading doctors and nurses to use flashlights in the delivery room while a mother gave birth. tting trends is our . we need to scale with customer demand... ...in real time. 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