so glad you are with us on "cnn this morning." top of the hour. and it is pre-debate morning. the rnc has released the official lineup for tomorrow's presidential debate. frontrunner donald trump not on this list. instead, he is getting ready to surrender the next day on felony charges in georgia. a california clothing store owner shot and killed over a pride flag. our friends will join us live. a deep dive report from "the new yorker" reveals elon musk's influence over wards and the federal government's inability to rein him in. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. former president former president says he will turn himself into the fulton county jail this thursday. it will be his fourth arrest this year. trump agreed to a $200,000 bond on 13 felony charges for trying to overturn his 2020 loss in georgia. his bond set some strict conditions. the judge has warned trump he is not allowed to threaten or intimidate any witnesses and his 18 co-defendants in the case. that includes any posts or reposts on social media. >> it will happen the day after the gop's first presidential primary debate. the rnc released the list of the eight candidates will be on the stage tomorrow night in milwaukee. >> zachary is live outside the fulton county jail. good morning, zach. appreciate you being with us. the judge ahead of trump turning himself in and these others laid out several other conditions, right, for trump's release? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. trump is expected to turn himself into the fulton county jail behind me on thursday. but his lawyers were meeting with the district attorney's office yesterday to sort of lay out the terms of this bond agreement. in addition to the $200,000 bond, there is a broad social media provision in there that says he can't threaten or post anything threatening on social media it anybody in the community at large. that would include the prosecutors, include other witnesses. so these are strict terms of a bond agreement. and we know that four other of trump's co-defendants had their lawyers meeting with the district attorney's office yesterday to work out their bond agreements. the total in money ranges from $100,000 to $10,000. three lawyers did negotiate that i bond agreements yesterday. john eastman, kenneth chesebro and ray smith. there was another bail bondsman who negotiated his bond agreement as well. that is scott hall, who was involved in the coffee county breach. we are starting to see the co-defendants, there is 19 of them, including trump, work out the terms of their bond. they should start surrounding at the fulton county jail in the next few days. >> that's the georgia case. turning to the federal election subversion case. jack smith the special council pushing back hard against this date request of 2026, april 2026, to start that case. what is he saying? >> reporter: yeah, jack smith said at the outset when he announced the indictment he wanted a speedy trial. trump came back with a different proposal, a trial to happen in 2026 after the next presidential election. jack smith yesterday with a new filing pushing back on the claims by trump's lawyers arguing this should be parked back to to 2026. saying it misstated fact. a narrative not based in reality. till contention there. the two sides arguing over when a potential for donald trump in that federal case could happen. >> thank you. it's going to be a busy there this week. that's for sure. this morning fox says it will no longer provide credentials to former president trump's surrogates for the spin room at tomorrow's gop presidential primary debate. several of trump's advisors and top surrogates were planning to attend and represent him in the spin room since he won't be there. now they are working to sort out a resolution with the network and the rnc. alayna treene is live in bridgewater, new jersey, with more. you have some reporting for us this morning about how the trump team is reacting to this. what do you know? >> reporter: right. well, good morning. yes. the donald trump team was angered by this yesterday. they were informed two days before the debate that they were no longer going to be credentialed by fox news in the spin room. of course, fox is hosting that debate in milwaukee on wednesday. but i am told that they think they have found essentially a loophole around this and also, you know, some sort of resolution, which is other networks will be able to give some members of the trump team as well as surrogates who don't have credentials already access to that spin room. this is how they are coming around it. from my conversations with donald trump's team i know they were frustrated. they saw this as a slap in the face from fox news. of course, the reason that fox news had pulled the credentials is because donald trump is not participating the debate. also, to talk about some counter-programming that the former president himself is doing, he will be sitting down with tucker carlson wednesday night for an interview he already recorded. he re-recorded that interview. he will be in bedminster wednesday night during the debate but also having an aired interview with tucker carlson. so a lot of, you know, uncertainty, i think, around what was going to happen with donald trump's surrogates in that spin room. they think they will be able to be there now and represent him in his absence. victor, poppy. >> alayna treene, thank you. >> with donald trump not on the debate stage, it's an opportunity for his republican rivals who trail him to break through. what do they need to do tomorrow night? former advisor to george w. bush and john mccain and executive producer of the circus, always with the best hat hin televisio, as well, mark, welcome. i want to tick through all of them. why not start with the former vp, mike pence in? >> this is the first best and maybe last impression for for the candidates to make an impression, try to break through, and the effect of this debate not just break through, but to break down and this be their last debate. so mike pence, his opportunity here is to say that when asked to choose between trump and the constitution, he chose the constitution. this is his mantra. this is the hill he has chosen to live or die on. it's a distinguishing fact. the one act he will be remembered for historically. you can be sure this is the play he will make. >> governor ron desantis, what does he need to do? >> push the notion of trump being a loser and he is a winner. psychologically, the way to go after trump is to say, listen, this guy, you know, he won an election, was a good president, did a lot of good things, but he can't win. he lost the last election, first time in 100 years a president lost his re-election, the senate and house, since grover cleveland. i can win. >> nikki haley has been preparing for a long time, since she launched her run in february. what does she need to do? >> keep your eye on nikki haley. i think she is a value play. she knows the drill. she is experienced not only in campaigns and governments. that's her message. she can say i am the most experienced person because i have executive experience as governor and foreign policy experience as the former unc ambassador. she has a broad portfolio. >> vivek ramaswamy, his team says they are not doing mock debates. apparently someone took his shirt and he is playing tennis anyway. what does he need to accomplish at the debate tomorrow night? >> well, after having seen that video, bringing his tennis racket to the stage. plays a good game of tennis, clearly. that's his secret sauce. he is all about confidence and that's his superpower. so i think that he is the guy to watch in this debate. he could break out. it's all about expectations. not many people know him or have seen him, and whether you agree with his positions, which are pretty wacky, he is an impressive guy. watch for him to break out and -- >> north dakota governor doug burgum wants to introduce himself to the american people. they don't get opening statements, so he is going to have to do that in answers? >> he is the least known of anybody. his play so introduce himself as an effective governor and successful entrepreneur and then to say, you know, if anybody gets polled by a pollster i will give them a goift card to say i got on the debate stage. >> senator tim scott, who is getting a lot of attention in iowa, taking a different approach than many of his opponents here, what's his high mark here? what's his goal? >> yeah, i has got a lot of potential in iowa. another one to really watch. he's got a lot of potential with iowa voters. you know a very sort of religious background and place with evangelicals. his play is to be the sunny reagan conservative. he is the nice guy. everyone likes tim scott. he needs to throw a little bit of an elbow. the way he does that, i think, subtly or maybe not so subtly say character counts. >> this is sort of what the george bush -- in 2000 to say it's time to return honor and integrity to the white house. >> former governor asa hutchinson, one of the few on that zaj who called out trump said he -- he and christie, said he is not qualified to be president. what does he need to do? he is lagging in the polls. >> he is. but that's his -- his way in is to be like christie, confront trump. he is doing it as a former governor of arkansas. a southern governor. and somebody who is saying, listen, it is disqualifying if you are under criminal indictment to run for president. he shouldn't be running. that's where he is drawing a bright line that he doesn't qualify because of the indictments, he into not be running. >> and number eight, the former governor of new jersey, chris christie, who has been brawling since he entered the race. what should he be doing tomorrow night? >> well, he is the human wrecking ball. and he's got one play, but it's a really good one, that is he punches everybody. punch up on trump. he will punch sideways on desantis and punch down on vivek. count on chris christie to punch everybody in the ring. it's always good tv and always exciting. count on him to keep punching. >> we will see if he can get his poll numbers up with those punches. >> mark mckinnon, thank you. we now who former president trump when turn himself in to the fulton county jail on thursday. what is that going to look like next. a shop owner in california killed for displaying a rainbow pride flag. you will hear from her daughter and one of her friends next. that's my boy. ♪ stay off the freeways! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liliberty. liberty. ♪ from big cities, to small towns, and on main streets across the us, you'll find pnc bank. helping businesses both large and small, communities and the people who live and work there grow and thrive. we're proud to call these places home too. they're where we put down roots, and where together, we work to help move everyone's financial goals forward. pnc bank. was also the first time you heard of a town named dinosaur, colorado. we just got an order from dinosaur, colorado. start an easy to build, powerful website for free with a partner that always puts you first. start for free at godaddy.com - [narrator] we just shipped our millionth monthly coffee subscription box so we're sending custom thank you gifts to our team. our custom ink rep is just as excited as we are and knows what great quality products to get. celebrate your milestones with custom gear. get started today at customink.com. subway's slicing their turkey fresh like on the titan turkey. piled high with double the cheese and more meat. i proffer freshly sliced turkey. it's my favorite mouth guard flavor. mmmm. now available at subway. the sub, not the mouth guard. 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could to happen at the courthouse? >> so interesting question, victors, because it should happen at the jail but it could have happened at the courthouse. in the other arrests, in the new york arrest, they didn't book him at the first precinct and there wasn't a perp walk. they did it quietly in the d.a.'s office. in miami in the u.s. marshal's office. a united states marshall appointed by donald trump. so they have adjusted the process, theoretically, for operational reasons and security. in this case, they deliberately have not adjusted the process, presumably as a demonstration of the attorney's and the sheriff's words he will be treated like any other person who allegedly violated the law. >> this is the first of the four arrests where he has to pay the bond. >> yeah. and that's also baked in ahead of time. they agreed on the bond. so for a normal prisoner, that would be something that would hold up the process while they were at the jail and they would have to, you know, scramble to arrange that bond. >> many people sit in jail for years because they can't pay it. >> i think in this case we are not going to see that. >> exactly. >> so, let me ask you about the exposure. i talked about this with some attorneys earlier. the debates and the exposure potentially. if trump is up there with two former u.s. attorneys who don't want him to be the nominee, asa hutchinson and chris christie, and they can goad some things out of him, what is the legal exposure for having trump participate in any of the debates that are on the schedule? >> well, it's a high-risk venture because of donald trump, which is donald trump has few unspoken thoughts. so the idea that he is now operating under a judge's stern warning that his attached as on of our earlier guests pointed out, a violation of that could affect his bond, whether it goes up or is revoked or remanded, a lot of things are on the table that haven't been before. so he is going to have to figure out with his lawyers and agree where that line is, which has traditionally been hard for him. and chris christie and i assume asa hutchinson as well know what to get out of him to potentially speak to state of mind at the time of the questions this these cases. >> not just lawyers, but former prosecutors. >> indeed. john miller, thank you. we want to show you security video posted by that local kansas newspaper that we told you so much about last week, the marion county record. what you are looking at is police raiding the home of that paper's 98-year-old co-owner and the mother of the editor of the paper, joanne meyer. you will remember she collapsed and died the day after the raid. police said meyer's home and office, they said the newspaper had obtained information illegally. the paper consistently denied that. watch this. >> don't you touch any of that stuff. >> ma'am, you are wasting your -- >> this is my house. you are a [ bleep ]. you're the chief? oh, god. yeah, my house. >> how many computers do you have in the house, ma'am? >> i am not going to tell you. get out of my way. i want to see what they are doing. >> according to the paper, meyer had been, quote, stressed beyond her limits and overwhelmed by the hours of shock and grief after the illegal police raids here is what her son, eric, would also the publisher of the paper, cold cnn last week. >> one nice thing is that the outpouring of public support and support from news organization and journalistic organizations afterwards almost vindicate her. i think she would feel good about that. >> this search warrant that was used to raid the home and the paper's office has been withdrawn and the items seized have been returned to the kansas burrow of investigation is looking at the entire incident. >> that video is stunning especially in the context of what happened after, they returned all and she died. >> and the warrant sthchlt striking. a shop owner in california killed for displaying a rainbow pride flag. you will hear from her daughter and one of her friends next. ♪ it takes two to make it outta sight ♪ ♪ one, two, get loooose now ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ stay two nights and geget a $ 50 best western gift c car. book now at bestwestern.com. i'm currently out of the office... focusing on little blue-sky thinking. i'll be taking meetings... with family and friends. and checking voicemail... as my activities permit. i'll connect with you... after reconnecting with me. ♪ get 1.9% apr for 36 months plus $1,500 purchase allowance on a 2024 xt5 and xt6 when you finance through cadillac financial. ♪ purple mattresses exclusive gel flex grid draws away heat relieves pressure and instantly adapts. sleep better. live purple. right now save up to $900 off mattress sets during purple's labor day sale. visit purple.com or a store near you. each day is a unique blend of going, doing, and living. glucerna protein smart with 30 grams of protein to help keep you moving. uniquely designed with carbsteady to help manage blood sugar response. glucerna, bring on the day. he snores like an angry rhino. you've never heard an angry rhino. baby i hear one every night. every night. okay. i'll work on that. save 50% on the sleep number® limited edition smart bed. plus, 60-month financing on all smart beds. shop now only at sleep number®. ♪ don't let student loan debt hold you back. refi at sofi.com. you could save thousands and get to your goals faster. sofi. get your money right. that's why comcast business de is launching theal. mobile made free event. with our business internet, new and existing customers can get one year of unlimited mobile for free. it's our best internet. powered by the next generation 10g network and with 99.9% reliability. plus one line of free mobile for an entire year. it's the mobile made free event-happening now. get started for just $49.99 a month. plus, ask how to get one free line of unlimited mobile. comcast business, powering possibilities. new this morning, the san bernardino county sheriff has named the suspect who allegedly shot and killed a california business woman. this was after an argument over the gay pride flag hanging outside her clothing store. the 27-year-old suspect ripped down the flag, shouted homophobic slurs. he was later killed in confrontation with deputies as the small community in the san bernardino monsoons maurns lorie carlton. >> she helped foster a culture in which the lgbtqia community felt accepted. her daughter told anderson cooper last night she faced local hostility before burke always stood up for equality. >> she was so fearless and any negative reaction, you know, she just powered through. the flags had been torn down before by different individuals and she always ordered an even larger flag in response and put it up. so, you know, i admire her and i am so proud of her and i know she passed standing up for something that she believed in. >> way, carleton was a large donor to the group. she didn't identify as lgbtq+ but advocated for everyone in the community. >> this comes amid a spike in anti-lbgtq incident. 350 of those attacks in just the last year. we are joined by a friend of lauri's, the co-founder of lake arrowhead lgbtq+. thank you for joining us. you said that there are people who moved to the community who were concerned about their safety tand then they drive by lauri's store and see the flag and would feel welcome. what did she mean to everyone there? >> laurie was the gap between the losinggbtq community. she was the -- she cwas securit for lot of the people because of these flags. she was the brave one. she was the lionness. i mean fierce like a lioness fierce. she was fierce in business, fierce in love, fierce with the way she felt about her stances on people's rights, the human rights campaign was important to her. the voting rights were important to her and this was all centered by her passion for rights for lgbtq. >> matthew. i wonder what you thought and felt when you heard what happened at that store, at that flag, and now there is someone in custody, that because she stood up, because she kept replacing the flag, she lost her life. >> you know, we've always -- we are in a changing climate here as far as the demographic of it this location. it has been ftraditionally quit conservative, but nobody's ever had a problem getting along, especially when we moved here. but this was a shock that lauri, a person who didn't identify as part. community, was just an ally was shot because of a rainbow flag. i think that will resonate with people. it's not a shock that this occurred in this area. nobody is shocked that gun violence occurred because of somebody has a gay flag up. it's just that we didn't expect it to happen to someone who was an ally like lauri, a woman married to a man with a blended family of nine children. >> saying that is shocking in itself, right? no one is shocked that someone was shot because of this. and it comes in that context, matthew, that i mentioned earlier, of the adl mentioning 350 attacks driven by this hate in the last year. >> yeah. exactly. and i have to say, when we started our -- the organization just before covid and went into the first parade during covid, there was very little backlash from the community. it seems to have grown over the past year and a half. we still haven't had any issues with that up here outside of some cyber marks and hand gestures. but 99% of the folks up here are wonderful. and no matter what their political affiliation or how they worship, most people up here just get along well. but there are these folks that are not so keen to the changes that are happening up here and have been happening for years. >> i read that businesses already are putting up rainbow flags around the community, and that you said that something good has to come out of this. hopefully, there is more of that. not just the flags, but also the support for the entire community there at lake arrowhead. matthew, thank you for your time. again, we are sorry for your community's loss. >> and the support is going to come from what uri wanted, the efforts that are going to be based on what she wanted us to do, her work is not done. >> thank you. >> thank you. a new report that finds that elon musk's influence over the u.s. government is so widespread, that the government has become, quote, reliant on musk. ronan farrow wrote that fees for "the new yorker" and joins us next. they say seeing is believing, but with stearns & foster® that's only part of the story. we handcraft every stearns & foster® using the finest materials, and ultra-conforming intellicoils®, for a beautiful mattress, and indescribable comft... every single night. f stearns & foster® ...s, an what comfort should be. during our labor day sale, bring home incredible comfort with savings up to $800 on select adjustable mattress sets. learn more at stearnsandfoster.com new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today. (warehouse ambience) introducing togo's new french dip sandwiches featuring fresh artisan bread piled high with tender roast beef, and served with hot au jus for dipping. try the roast beef or pastrami french dips today only at togo's if you haven't read this, you need to. a deep dive in "the new yorker" paint ago stunning portrait of elon musk. stunning in multiple ways. the focus on the billionaire's growing influence in the war on ukraine and the u.s. government at large. according to the new report, on a call with pentagon officials about his company's satellite-based internet that ukrainian troops have been relying on in the battlefield, he mentioned he had a conversation. he spoke to russian president vladimir putin. he previously denied it. the former undersecretary for defense of policy told the magazine that musk said he spoke to the russian president at the same time u.s. defense officials were worried he may pull starlink out of ukraine, the undersecretary told the reporter the journalist who wrote this ronan farrow that they were anxious they might see his company's involvement inable the war to prolong on ukraine. >> farrow reported that musk's influence within the u.s. government is widespread and that over the last two decades, quote, musk sought out business opportunities in crucial areas, after decades of privatization, the state has receded. the government is reliant on him but struggles to respond to his risk taking, brinksmanship. "the new yorker" contributing righter ronan farrow joins us now on his latest article. elon musk shadow rule, ho how the u.s. government came to rely on the tech billionaire and is d struggling to rein him in. there is a line here where you are, you know, trying to get some questions from the pentagon about emergency management and the spokesman says that -- and this is a quote here -- wie'll talk to you if elon wants us to. there is a degree of deference here from the pentagon? >> that's a small manifestation of the balance of power we are talking about between the private individual, who is so wealthy and powerful in different fields, and the government, the actual state. that is a complicated dynamic that is something that has some prose. he has advanced various fields in meaningful ways. there is a reason u.s. government is so reliant on him in all of these ways. at the same time, he is someone who has behaved erratically and the fact that we're getting that kind of a communication from the government as journalists, like we'll go through this private individual, that's pretty unusual and it is a small but significant signed of how beholden they are. >> one thing i thought was interesting is how you my light in the piece, national security officials i spoke with, meaning you, had a wide range of views on the government's balance of power with musk. a supporter is general milley who spoke glowingly about him? >> absolutely. the framework for several of those conversations with people who were so supportive of him was that all of the conversations in advance and with their teams were about, okay, but we want to make sure we are making clear to elon we are supportive of him. you get a glimpse into the texture of the relationships. there is nothing wrong with those kinds of warm relationships, obviously, between a private individual and significant government leadership. even in the context of a military contractor relationship. but this is something more and different. i talked to a lot of historians to get a sense how new this is, the fact that we can only put crew into space that nasa has to go through elon musk and no one else. the only alternative right now at this moment, probably for the next year, is sending people up via russian launches. the fact that if we want to advance green energy policies around electric vehicles, we got to go through elon and his charging stations. historian says that is a new extreme and newly political dimension to this private power. >> specifically on russia's war in ukraine, i think the most obvious example for most people at home is when he decided to end the internet service through starlink, he exclusively offers to the ukrainian military, and that's how they communicate, obviously. he then reversed it that. bemoaned the cost. but is the pentagon, is the government attempting to unravel this at all now that everyone knows the dependence? >> two things happened. one is at the end of this story, one of the many stories in this pro vial, a standoff over internet access in ukraine. it appears he was talking to vladimir putin, telling multiple people that at the time, as you point out he since tried to deny that, and then he was curtailing access specifically in areas that russia was contesting. at the end of that, one of the things that happened was the pentagon did pay up. they said, you know, we are going to get a deal in place to make sure this doesn't shut off entirely. but the other thing that happened is people on the ground in ukraine, people on the front lines remained spooked, right? >> right. >> we bought his services. apparently at a very, you know, generous rate. this is the situation where metaphorically he had the u.s. government and the ukrainians at gunpoint. and to this day, they do fear that he is going to curtail service more. so very hard to get people to talk in that context. i am glad that some did. >> once you get into the sort of middle of the piece, you back into his life and you go to his childhood, his first marriage, losing his first child, all of the things that created the musk that we know. can you speak about the musk that we know now via x, formerly twitter, and you talk at the end about him taking on a.i. and the way that we have seen him operate and conduct himself with twitter and now a.i. because you quote sam salt man saying elon wants the world to be saved but only if he can be the one to save it. >> this was a common sentiment amongst elon musk's peers. he does this significant work that at times, in my mind, it's a net positive for all of us. even in some of these spaces where there have been problems, the ukrainians needed that access to satellite internet. it created a bulwark against russia's cyberattacks. in the case of, you know, launches through nasa, we are now no longer reliant on the russians to do that. nasa officials told me we are moving faster in some of these cases. >> the twitter thing is different. >> but the twitter thing is different, right. and we are seeing in these recent years that elon musk has behaved erratically at times, that the biographical facts that you mentioned that led to him at times talking about his loneliness, sadness, the fact that there have been questions about his psycho pharmacology and reports about the tesla board being worried about his ketamine use, these are all things that can be used in a legal and healthy way. however, there is concern, you know, this is a human being that we are giving all this power to, and there are very few checks on that power right now. >> i should say in the story you say that you reached out to elon musk. he did not respond. has there been any response since its been published? >> he declined to answer question force the piece, which is a subtle but significant difference from not responding. >> sure. >> it's his prerogative to do that. the interesting thing about elon musk is he has been the subject of so many books, biographies, profiles and he is a rare case like the mystery is not him. he is engaged in a stream of consciousness, you know, a monolo monologue about himself through a huge swath of public life. he is tweeting, x'ing, i guess we would say, all the time. we know a lot about him. and i felt like what we weren't hearing was what is it like for the people or the other side of the table from him in all these sectors. >> this is a brilliant framing because we don't often talk about what he means for us. what he means for society and the world and america. and what did you -- you said the private power, is the word you used. it's really important. >> yeah. i appreciate you all having a thoughtful conversation about that. it's heady to get into historical economic policy on a morning show like this. but it is important. it resonates with all of us, right? how much power we are putting in the hands of private people, individuals -- >> with no checks. >> and be dangerous or erratic for all the good they do. that's something we want to think and talk about. there is a quote from a former nasa administrator, jim brightenstein, a trump appointee, you know, a conservative. very about protecting economic progress and not ex outing government power. he says a powerful thing. we have to understand that too much deregulation can also present dangers and that if we are putting our eggs in one basket, the elon basket, that could present some danger. so the fact that even conservatives are saying that in this piece is meaningful. >> it is a fascinating piece. ronan farrow, thank you for coming in to talk with us about it. >> thank you guys. >> we reached out to tesla, spacex, and musk himself for comment and did not eve a response. new reporting this morning on the biden administration's student loan repayment program. those details ahead. as families burn through the money they saved in the pandemic, the cost of childcare continues to soar. but just how bad is it? 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>> it's about demand and supply. >> thanks for your economics 101, harry. >> thanks. i did take economic in college. there's fewer workers in child care, down 10%, versus all jobs, up 3%. so, child care, people are not wanting to go into child care. why? i'll give you one reason why. look at the hourly wages for child care. just $20. $20, versus all jobs, $34. there's a lot better jobs especially in the job market that's been so good over the last year. >> it's one of the hardest jobs. and most important jobs, harry. >> very much so. >> thank you. victor? new this morning, the biden administration has launched save, the income-driven student loan driven plan. the save starts for saving on valuable education. it takes the borrower's monthly payments to what they make, regardless of what is owed. and president biden had this to say about it. >> the most affordable student loan plan ever. as long as you pay what yu owe on this plan, you will no longer see the loan balance grow. >> how does this work? 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