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>> yeah. remember most of this investigation was conducted in washington, d.c. some people were surprised when the case was ultimately filed down in florida. but this can happen in federal investigations. you can conduct your investigation and then realize that the proper venue is somewhere different. now this is not going to the be last time that this question surfaces in this investigation. right here, judge cannon is asking specifically about the use of a d.c. grand jury as it relates to possible obstruction of justice. and she wants briefing. she wants to hear what they think of the fact that they've used a d.c.-based grand jury even after the indictment to susz out issues around key witnesses or defendants having the same lawyer. so i would expect that going forward this question will loom quite large over this trial until it is ultimately adjudicated. but here she's asking for briefs on a relatively narrow issue. >> we'll see how that works out. really interesting developments going today. paula, thank you for that. jim? in georgia now police are ramping up security around this courthouse in atlanta. starting today, the main street in front of the fulton county courthouse is completely shut down. parking on several streets around the area closed. this comes as the district attorney there signaling indictments in the 2020 election interference probe of the former president could come at any time. and as the court is telling anyone with these court dates through august 19th to expect to make their appearances virtually. cnn's nick valencia is live outside the courthouse. nick, these come after law enforcement put up barriers there. this is, of course, about the possibility of a trump indictment. what other measures are you seeing in does that include increased personnel as well? >> reporter: that's right. we are seeing an increased presence of personnel here, individuals with long guns, police officers with long guns. today to block this main street in front of fulton county courthouse. they added to this in addition to those plastic barricades. some of which have been filled with water to make it hard for vehicles to drive through, if that was their intention. the street is being closed down to vehicle traffic. it is still open to foot traffic. but i want to move out of the way here to give you a sense of the increase in police activity. you can see this area flanked by sheriff's vehicles, local law enforcement here. part of that, jim, having to do with the threats being received by fulton county district attorney fani willis. since she started this investigation more than a year ago, there have been countless threats against her life. some of them, according to her, credible threats, so much so where she's spoken about publicly the need to have to change her own personal security. now we're seeing that increased security presence here in front of the courthouse. it's one of the several indications we're seeing that this sprawling investigation may near its end. may be very close to coming to an end here. of course, this investigation looking into the potential of racketeering charges, conspiracy charges and it's really, you know, the rhetoric has really been fuelled by what president trump has said about fani willis, calling her a racist, saying this is politically motivated. we saw a trump supporter protesting last week with a flag and bull horn echoing those sentiments from the president. but it looks like things are coming to an end. it was recently reported the seating of two grand juries here. one of those grand juries that's seated that will ultimately have to hear the evidence gathered by the special purpose grand jury and their many months of work. they had the power to subpoena. they heard from more than 75 witnesses and some of the biggest names in trump's orbit showed up here. now it's going to be up to one of those grand juries, they have 24 jurors in all, plus two alternates, 16 needed for quarter rum. those indictments could come at any day. jim? >> and could we see the former president walk through those doors behind you to face another indictment? nick valencia outside that courthouse in fulton county, thank you so much. we're joined now by former federal prosecutor regnat toe mare gnatty. let's start with the deadline interference case here. this order to restrict how trump's team handles evidence. do you think it's likely to be granted? >> oh, for sure. the only question is whether or not trump's team can come up with some tweaks that they are, you know, that the judge thinks are reasonable enough to give them -- throw them a bone regarding. otherwise they should expect that this is going to get entered as paula correctly said routine motion. >> talk about that. as she said, this is pretty standard. tell us about how this is standard in other cases. >> sure. i handle criminal cases across the country. and protective orders are usually entered by the government or requested by the government. i don't dispute them in a variety of cases, fraud cases, tax cases, any case where there is potentially confidential records. healthcare cases, any case where there's something that if it was released to the public could cause harm to someone. so this is really pretty standard. and you know, trump's team trying to oppose this, it's fine. but what ultimately was happening was there's an element where they could get a week's worth of delay. even though it doesn't seem like much, those weeks add up if you add a week delay to every routine motion, routine issue. that's why smith put down a marker saying we oppose even a short extension of time. the judge granted that. that really tells me that not only is smith hard driving this to a very fast trial date, but it looks like the judge, at least an early indication the judge is in the same mindset. >> yeah. she really appears to be moving this along. as you point out, the folks who do not want to appear to move this along are trump's legal team. and his lawyer john lauro says, when he sees cases like this, they're two to three-year cases. are they really, though? i actually -- i agree with him on that. >> interest. >> as i mentioned, i have criminal cases across the country. i have a case that was charged in 2020 and the trial date is getting moved to 2024. so it's not unusual. but, you know, this is an unusual case in which the defendant has made it very clear publicly that his plan is to get elected and to try to shut this down. and he, of course, is being charged with trying to abuse his power in a criminal way. so i can understand why smith is motivated to streamline the case and rush it. you know, there's obviously competing concerns i'm sure that the judge has. she may want this to be hapndle in a speedy way but will of course be concerned about the rights of the accused. my unso lis sited advice, poking her in the eye, throwing grenades at everyone around the case is probably not going to endear yourself to the judge or inspire her to give you -- cut you a break and give you a little bit more time. >> so it's interesting. when you say that a lot of times these cases they do take a long time. do you think the interest of having this one not take that standard timeline is something that holds? he's the one, as you point out, with the right to the speedy trial. >> that's a great question. technically speaking, although we are typically focussed in the judicial system, criminal justice system, folksed on the rights of the accused, rightfully so, when it comes to a speedy trial, the public also has that right. i think one difference, though, brianna, is that when i ask prosecutors for things in cases. okay. when i was a prosecutor for many years, defense attorneys were asking me for things. i usually don't get a response from the prosecutors five minutes later. usually they're very busy. they have hundreds of cases on their docket. and you know, things can take some time. and jack smith's filings are saying we're available on the evening, holiday, weekends. we are eager to move this forward. and so, when a prosecutor takes that point of view or has that perspective and is willing to do whatever it takes to move it forward, that really matters. that helps move the ball forward. and i will say that the question is just will the judge go along with that? you know, it sure looks like she is in the short run. and donald trump by poking her in the eye and creating issues in his own case in the short run is probably not helping matters. >> yeah. we'll see if he takes your advice. i'm not so sure he will, renato. we'll see. thank you so much. we appreciate it. jim? well, ukraine says it has arrested someone they say is an important part of a plot to assassinate the president, volodymyr zelenskyy. we'll have the details of that plot just ahead. plus, the first batch of u.s. tanks have now been approved for shipment to ukraine. how this might change the fight on the ground there. that's the hope, at least. and later, the get back in the office trend has even reached zoom employees. have we reached the end of you're muted? you're watching "cnn new central." we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ (please don't go) ♪ ♪ (please don't go) ♪ ♪ (please don't't go) ♪ ♪ (please don't go) ♪ ♪ (don't gooo) ♪ ( ♪ ♪ ) ♪ (don't go away) ♪ pre-order now and get a free storage upgrade. ♪ (please don't go) ♪ chevy silverado has what it takes too it all. withp to 13 camera views. and the z71 off-road pacge. ♪ you ok? 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and what are ukrainian officials telling you about that? >> reporter: there's a problem here really, jim. ukrainian officials are never that transparent about gains when they make them. and so, we often don't hear them standing on the rooftop shouting about the progress they made because they want the operational advantage. that said, we have not heard off the record a lot of indications of great success. but there's two possible explanations for that. one i think it's fair to say some of the more optimistic assessments were perhaps unrealicist, that ukraine would make vast, bounding gains in a matter of weeks. they're fighting hard, it seems. with initial crust of the russian defense that has a lot of mind fields ahead of it that are very, very slow going. tens of meters per hour with the mining teams and a lot of casualties because the russians have put these in place and have been expecting this advance for months. that said, if they do eventually see some kind of progress through these first defenses, there are some assessments suggesting the russian depth of defense is not that strong. yes, more re-enforcements behind, but that's when the russians may get into trouble. the extent of their defense is up front and if ukraine gets through that, that's where the sort of combined maneuver warfare that nato has been pushing upon ukrainian forces may take greater effect and they may be able to take wider territory over the weeks and months ahead. remember, jim, once they're through, that first extraordinary line of trenches and mine fields they have to push through first, it is flat terrain all the way to the azov sea, the ultimate goal to cut off crimean peninsula from the rest of occupied ukraine. is it do snbl we have to see. it's a tough task and they're doing it without air superiority, jim. >> defensive belts as they've been described. nick paton walsh in sabee sha, thank you so much. a new u.s. development in russia's war on ukraine. the first batch of abrams tanks was first approved for shipment. the biden administration initially resisted sending ukraine these tanks but then the president signed off on 31 going to the war efforts in a major turning point for the west support for ukraine. we have cnn national security reporter natasha bertrand at the pentagon for us. natasha, when will these tanks be reaching the battlefield? >> reporter: well, this is a big hurdle, brianna, that has now been overcome. we're told the tanks are expected to be there now by early fall. just to reiterate what the army acquisition chief doug bush said this morning, he said that the first batch of abrams tanks have actually been finished and approved for shipment. and that just happened over the weekend. essentially they had to be refurbished and repaired before they could actually be given to the ukrainian soldiers. well, now we're learning that that process is complete and their expected to head to europe before they will then move into ukraine and be given to the ukrainian soldiers, giving them a very powerful ground component at a very key moment. now, just to give you a sense of what bush told reporters this morning, he said, quote, they ardone. they have to get to europe. and then to ukraine along with alofhe things that go with them. ammunition, spare parts, fuel equipment, repair facilitfacili. it's not just the tanks, it's the full package. despite that, the timeline here is still on tlak. he makes a very interesting point which really harkens back to the original u.s. argument for why it would be impossible to provide these tanks before. of course the biden administration changed its mind, namely they are so complicated to operate and maintain. the logistics of these tanks are very difficult. and that is why the ukrainians spent roughly 250 ukrainians spent ten weeks training on these tanks in germany before completing that course earlier this month, late last month. and now, of course, they're set to receive them. but still this is going to be a big logistical challenge for the ukrainians because these tanks, they break down pretty easily. they are sophisticated but there are so many things, of course, going on in this counteroffensive that could pose a challenge to their ability to maintain them. still they are expecting to really see these tanks play a really important role in the battlefield. this is a major development that ukrainians will be very pleased to hear about, brianna. >> maintenance is key to war fighting as they will learn when i know the comes to these tanks. natasha bertrand, thank you. jim. a white mother filed a lawsuit against southwest airlines. she claims she was accused of human trafficking while traveling with her own biracial daughter. details next. health hazard in new mexico from a burning plastics plant. what officials are telling us now. look at that smoke. stay with us. tourist taking photos that are analyzed by ai. so researchers can help lilife underwater flourish. ♪ using the finest materials, like indulnt memory foam, and ultra-conforming innersprings, for a beautiful mattress, and indescribable comfort. for a limited time, save $400 on select stearns & foster mattresses. you're watching football wrong! what do you call a guy in face paint that can't get the game? 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as legal problems mount for donald trump, polls show the former president maintaining his grip on republican primary voters. most of trump's gop challengers have avoided directly criticizing him, fearing it might alienate his base. but one candidate, former texas congressman will hurd has been a trump critic on the campaign trail and for years before that. he now joins us. will hurd, thank you so much for taking the time. >> hey, jim. always a pleasure to be on with you. >> you said on sunday that people want -- and you've been encountering voters in your campaign, people want a candidate who, quote, is not a jerk, not a racist, not a misogynist and took aim at the two current gop front-runners in 2024. if that is true, if your supposition is true, why do those two candidates desantis and trump have far more than half of gop primary voters. >> i added don't be a homophobe as well. that's one thing that voters want. i think we're going to see in 2024 what we saw in 2020 and 2022. donald trump lost in 2020 because his inability to grow the electorate to the largest growing groups of voters, 2022 republicans did not see the red wave that all those same polls that are saying that donald trump has this locked, that said we were going to have a red wave. and so, campaigns always tighten the closer you get to the election. i was in new hampshire this week. i was block walking and somebody asked me if donald trump was running again for re-election. so there's still a lot of opportunity to educate voters. that's one thing that i'm looking forward to doing. we need to have, if the gop wants to have a chance and an opportunity in november to take on joe biden and beat joe biden, we need to elect someone who is not consistently crying about the past but who is looking to the future how to have unprecedented peace at a time in this complicated world. >> one parallel to 2016 now is the number of gop candidates who you might argue are splitting the, quote unquote, moderate vote there. are there too many candidates in the race? and would you drop out if the writing was on the wall and if that might help another candidate beat trump for the nomination? >> great question, jim. and i'm of the opinion that more ideas is better. this country has become the greatest country on the planet through a competition of ideas. and i think we should have that. and if your viewers want to see that competition of ideas go to hurd for america.com to have this conversation and donate at least one dollar to help me talk about these issues of the future. but think governor sununu, governor of new hampshire, said it best that by winter if there's not a clear path to victory, then those need to be thinking about how do we consolidate our support around one candidate. i think that's a right logic and something that i've said that i'm willing to evaluate when we get closer to the winter. >> have you seen any big donor money change direction? in effect, we have seen some with desantis' campaign, for instance, as he hasn't performed at least yet to expectations. are you seeing donors pick a horse alternate to trump? >> well, i think people are realizing that last summer everybody thought ron desantis was the heir apparent. and he's had a number of missteps, whether it's thinking there was an upside to slavery or hiring someone on his team that had history of being an anti-semite to being more interested in fighting the lgbtq community than fighting war criminals like vladimir putin. so i think there's a lot of folks that there's money on the sideline to see what happens once we start getting into the fall. as the end of summer happens in every election, voters are not necessarily paying attention because they're wrapping up summer, getting ready for school to start. and then you start seeing campaign pick up early in the fall. but here is what i have seen and heard, people are worried. 65% of americans think robot will take their job. people are worried about what's going to happen in this nuclear war with china if they're able to surpass us as the global superpower. how do we have world class education at a time when our kids' grades in math, science and reading is some of the worst performances in this century. i think that's what people are interested in caying about. >> you mentioned, you reference the ukraine war and putin. a recent poll found that majority of americans now oppose giving additional aid to ukraine. cnn reported that putin is planning to wait out until the next u.s. election, hoping he gets a friendlier occupant in the white house. is the window closing for ukraine to win this on the battlefield before politically it might lose support? so, look, i think we should all be interested in helping ukraine win this war as quickly as possible. nobody wants this to be a forever war. but jim, what's fascinating on the campaign trail, every place i get i get a question about ukraine. and when you explain why this matters, the united states after world war ii built an international order that be benefits us. if we don't defend that international order it will hurt us. for 5% of dod budget, we've been able to dismantle the russian military and not have to send any of our sons and daughters over there to do that. and so, making sure that the ukrainians have everything they need in order to win this war, which in my opinion, this is where joe biden is wrong, my opinion winning this war is pushing the russians out of all of ukraine, not just going back to february 2022. and so when you explain that, people appreciate that and understand this. and when you start telling folks that joe biden has been sending equipment and support in drips and drabs, if we were to able to double down and give them everything they need to win this, then we can put them in a position to be successful and that benefits everyone. and then let's get ukraine into nato as soon as they do that. >> you made a case for the war that you don't often hear, at least in terms of how much attention it gets, that this is bigger than about ukraine. you mentioned prior issues, for instance, at the border, other economic, bread and butter issues. do you find that -- are you concerned at all that the focus on race is so much on trump and his legal troubles that there's not an opportunity for other candidates to discuss other issues and there are other candidates to emerge? >> well, jim, i appreciate that question, too. but we all have to remember that social media and cable news is not reflective of where the entire country is. the reason i'm able to articulate these issues is because i have real world experience. i'm the only person in this campaign on the republican side that's been shot at, that's been chased, that people have tried to blow up. i have real on the ground experience in the global war on terrorism, trying to stop terrorists from blowing up our homelands and preventing dirty bombs in. so when you engage folks and hear the things they care about, these are the issues they want to talk about. the stuff i talk about here on tv with you are not always the same that you talk about with people on the ground. and that's why we're able to grow and evolve because we're talking about things that people care about and trying to articulate a vision for the future of how for the next 247 years the united states of america is able to do what we've done for the last 247 years. and that's create quality life for the american citizen that's the envy of the world. >> three years from 250. will hurd, candidate for president in 2024, thank you so much for joining us. >> awesome. always a pleasure to be on. and again, if folks want to see this kind of debate, hurdforamerica.com. >> he's got to make the pitch. brianna? 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