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you are live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm jim acosta in washington. good evening. we are inching closer to i deadline in the government's case against former president donald trump over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. trump's lars now have about 22 hours to respond to a legal filing from special counsel jack smith. he requested a protective order after trump posted this on social media on friday. "if you go after me, i'm coming after you." smith wants the judge to limit trump and his legal team from publicly discussing sensitive evidence in the election interference case. today on cnn we heard from one trump lawyer who says he will fight that protective order. the defense attorney also says trump did not tell vice president mike pence at the time to throw out key electoral votes. he says the key distinction is that trump merely asked. >> you're saying that asking is action. no, asking is aspirational. asking is not action. it's core free speech. what president trump did not do is direct vice president pence to do anything. he asked him. in an aspirational way. asking is covered by the first amendment. >> and joining me now to discuss this, i'm asking in an aspirational way, that former federal prosecutor renato mariotti talk to me about this. renato, what do you make about this? it's an aspirational thing i guess for a defense attorney to put out that kind of argument. >> well, yeah, it's definitely quite aspirational. you can imagine, for example, a fraudster asking a victim or attempted victim whether or not they'd like to invest in a fraudulent investment. the mere fact that it's a question does not transform that into first amendment protected speech. it's very well settled by the courts that lots of crimes involve talking to people. the mere fact that you're doing that doesn't mean that you're entitled to first amendment protection. >> yeah, and the former attorney general bill barr undermined that first amendment case defense. he told cnn trump knew he lost the election. we've heard that from other sources. i heard that from sources at the time covering the end of that administration. as we continue to hear from more former allies and potential witnesses in this trial, we're seeing trump intensify his attacks. special counsel jack smith warned that he wants a protective order to limit what trump and his defense team can talk about in all of this. it was in light of this threat that trump essentially made on social media late friday evening. i was wondering what you thought of that. >> you know, usually it's a safe bet, jim, that a defendant spouting off -- a long leash. i will say that obviously donald trump is going to get some leeway. but this is not the right judge for him to try to do this in front of. i do think she's going to, you know, eventually bring resources to bear there and potentially issue orders to try to curtail his ability to continue influencing a potential jury pool. and jack smith i think is rightfully as the prosecutor going right out in front and trying to start that narrative with her, basically try to use up one of his strikes -- one of trump's strikes very early by filing motions getting that in front of her. >> the other thing that is percolating in all of this is trump has been going after mike pence on social media. he did that in a truth social post easter the last 24 hours. last night during a republican dinner in south carolina trump went after bill barr. he also went after jack smith. let's listen to this and talk about it on the other side. >> i will direct a completely, very, very powerful overhaul of the doj. we're not going o'to have cowards -- we're not going to have cowards like bill barr. >> virtually every poll we're kicking biden's ass. if i wasn't we wouldn't be under investigation by deranged jack smith. he's a deranged human being. >> now, renato, the judge made it very clear on thursday that trump is not supposed to go after witnesses. and you know, i'm just curious, if mike pence and bill barr potentially might be witnesses in this case, i mean, based on what jack smith said in his indictment, what mike pence said about what donald trump said to him, that you're too honest, that sounds to me like key testimony that jack smith might want to have played out in front of the jury. is trump violating the terms of this arraignment, and could that potentially land him in the slammer? what do you think? >> well, look, yes, potentially he is. his argument of course is going to be that he's a politician running for president, mike pence is running against him, bill barr is a political figure, part of the last administration. but you know, he is digging himself into a hole. in other words, someone who's more careful with his words could easily criticize those people and dance around that. but i think trump is not -- he's taking a sledgehammer, not a scalpel to this issue. so he's going to create a lot of heartburn for his attorneys in the months ahead. i really think, jim, that the judge is not going to do anything like lock him up pretrial for a number of reasons. one is that i think that would actually be helpful to him potentially. it would create sympathy for him. and would create a bunch of potentially appellate arguments, you know -- >> so he's going to be able to do whatever he wants to do, renato? he's going to be able to do whatever he wants to do, then s&p. >> i think it's -- no. i think there's consequences to making the judge upset. and for example, donald trump really wants leeway to make all sorts of constitutional arguments and first amendment arguments, and so forth. if he wants to have room to make those arguments and take time and get her to consider those things, he would be wise not to make her angry because she might give him the speedy trial jack smith wants if he continues and keeps this up. >> yeah. i was once told never upset, never poke a federal judge in the eye. that was once said to me at one point. i think those are wise words. renato mariotti, thank you very much. we appreciate it. last hour i spoke with one of the republicans challenging trump for the presidential nomination, former arkansas governor asa hutchinson is among the few rivals who is openly criticizing trump and he's critical of the republican national committee requiring all candidates who take part in the debate to pledge support for the eventual nominee. here's some of that conversation with the former governor. >> i don't want to sign a pledge that says i'm going to support somebody who's been convicted of serious crimes. but you know, they're not trying to get in the middle of that. and of course there's a constitutional limitation on doesn't disqualify him. i believe he is morally disqualified and he ought to withdraw. but the rnc does not share that view. and so we could be in a real predicament. and that's why donald trump wants to postpone all these trials until after the election. and it's going to be up to the judges to say not just the defendant has a ride to a speedy trial but the government does as well and the public does. that speedy trial requirement is for the public at large that we have speedy access to our justice system. so it's up to the judges. i hope it's resolved before the election is over with. i talked to hundreds of iowa voters tonight. incredible event, and i asked them, one, do you want donald trump on the debate stage? most of them say yes. because they want to see them all together. and how they respond to each other. and they know they'll be asked questions about the case itself. they want to know how he responds to that. and then secondly, there's a lot of trump support, absolutely, and there's a sense whether they're for trump or somebody else that the system has not treated him fairly. but they also recognize they need to move away. that's a very gradual process. and so this is going to be a pot coming to a boil over time and it's going to take the debate, it's going to take a lot of examination by iowa voters really to sort through who they're going to support. what was encouraging to me tonight is the number of iowans that had stickers on, "i'm an undecided iowa voter." there's a whole bunch of those stickers that are out there. >> hutchinson also says he's about halfway to qualifying for the first republican debate later this month. he also satisfied the polling requirement and now needs to reach that benchmark of $40,000. we'll keep an eye on that as it develops. in the meantime, a new problem in new york's migrant crisis. some asylum seekers have been seen sleeping on the streets. what's being done to help them, next. plus how the coast guard rescued a man 12 miles off the coast of florida. later on in the program, why elon musk is offering to pay legal bills for some twitter users. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." so you can improve your business however you see fit.t. rosie used part of her refund to build an outdoor patio. clink! dr. marshall used part of his refund to give his practice a fafacelift. emily used part of her refund to buy... i run a wax museum. let innovation refunds help you get started on your erc tax refund. stop waiting. go to innovationrefunds.com you really got the brows. ♪ chevy silverado has what it takes to do it all. with up to 13 camera views. and the z71 off-road package. ♪ you ok? 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i mean, is this a common occurrence for people who are walking around new york, tourists, residents? are they seeing migrants now sleeping outside because they've just run out of space there? >> reporter: yeah, jim, i just took another look. this is a scene that's repeated itself, at least not recently. but when you hear the recent remarks from new york mayor eric adams, he is not ruling out the possibility that those scenes of migrants, mainly adult men, sleeping on sidewalks could repeat themselves. that is as he points out that the system, the new york city shelter system continues to buckle under pressure as the number of asylum seekers continues to rise. the city's still caring for roughly 56,000. close to 100,000 that have actually turned to the city for help since last spring. this is why not just to eric adams but also fellow administration officials have been continuing to call on not just the state but also the federal government for that assistance for an actual plan to help shoulder that burden of caring for these asylum seekers. now, in terms of what we've seen also in the last several weeks, we have seen at least 200 facilities used by new york city to actually provide shelter to these asylum seekers. and we should also note that this weekend marks one year since the first bus chartered by texas governor greg abbott arrived in new york city. we should also add that we've seen about 10,500 asylum seekers arrive by those means. it is just a fraction of the close to 100,000 asylum seekers, most of them coming here on their own. jim? >> all right. polo sandoval, very important story. thanks so much for staying on top of it pf we appreciate it. in the meantime a missing florida boater is safely back on shore today after being rescued by the coast guard about 12 miles off the coast of st. augustine. 25-year-old charles gregory was reported missing after failing to return for nearly two days. gregory was seen last on friday night leaving a boat ramp in a small lightweight and flat-bottomed vessel before being found alive on saturday. cnn's camila bernal is following this for us. my goodness. what a story. how did he survive this? >> reporter: it's incredible, jim. and charles gregory, 25-year-old, is recovering at home but he held on to that boat. he never gave up. that's how he survived. i talked to his dad, raymond gregory, who told me that his son was scared to death, that he's had more conversations with god in those 30 or so hours than he's had his whole entire life. he said his son went out at 4:00 in the morning. he goes fishing. and something he usually does and has been doing for years. and he says the tide, though, was going faster than he thought it was and then a wave hit the boat and the boat capsized and essentially that's when it all went downhill for him. he said he lost his cell phone, his throw cushion, his life jacket, and he had to remove the motor from the boat. so he was hanging on to whatever was left of that boat for hours and hours. he got sunburnt and there were sharks and fish and jellyfish that stung him according to his father. he says, though, that the worst part of it all was at night because he says after that sunburn he was just feeling like he was going to die. it was freezing cold and he still had to hold on to that boat. the father saying he is okay, it's going to take a while because he was dehydrated and is trying to essentially go back to normal life. so it will take a while. but he is okay, jim. >> all right. just incredible images. i can't believe he survived that. camila bernal, thank you very much. very lucky to be alive. camila, thanks. former president donald trump is launching new attacks on the special counsel handling his case and even his former cabinet members. is this witness intimidation? 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>> i don't know. i'm not a lawyer. legally, jim, i don't know. all i know is this is manna for his base. this entire indictment has fueled his -- i think he's a lock for the nomination. but his base politically loves it when he does this. >> but why aren't more republicans speaking out? the rivals, they seem to be tiptoeing around going after trump. and you know this because you ran for congress. if you ran against somebody for your party's nomination and that person was indicted you would pounce. and it just isn't happening. >> well, you asked asa hutchinson that question and he didn't answer you. the truth is because if you go after trump you can't win. asa hutchinson's a good man. will hurd's a good man. chris christie. those three who are attacking trump have zero shot at the nomination. the only lane in this party is to try to hug trump and hope that he can't run. >> and paul, trump also has a few choice words for his former vice president. he posted on his truth social account about mike pence saying he was about to be ousted as governor of indiana until trump picked him to be his running mate. he called pence delusional and a bunch of other stuff. there.n see it on your screen i won't read it all. but i mean pence potentially could be one of the star witnesses in this trial. again, isn't this witness intimidation? doesn't the judge have to warn trump and say knock it off? >> the lawyer in me wants to protect the first amendment. that's the most important thing. and i hope this judge has a very, very wide strike zone. donald trump is running for president. mike pence is running against him. he should have a perfect right to criticize pence. this to me doesn't cross the line the way the veiled threat does, "i'm coming after you." that's different from just saying pence was i afailed politician and i gave him -- you know, i'm okay with that. but there's an old saying, zell miller, one of my mentors in this business, the phenomenoner georgia governor, will say a hit dog will holler. so when trump is yelling at somebody it's because he's afraid of them. he's never criticized pence before because pence is like 2%. so why is he all of a sudden afraid of mike pence? i think because as we now know trump said he's just too honest. pence is going to get in that trial, he's going to put his hand on a bible. for mike pence it won't be the first time. i think 9 only two times trump ever touched a bible was when he was sworn in. but pence is going to tell the truth. i think that's why he's attacking him. >> that's an important point. that tweet of his "if you come after me, i'm coming after you," that's a direct call to violence. and that's trump saying the next 15 months, signaling to his supporters to get violent. and they will. >> keep in mind after the search of mar-a-lago a deranged man on the fringes of the far right, perhaps inspired by mr. trump or other figures, attacked the fbi office in cincinnati. and wound p losing his life because he was trying to murder fbi agents. he was so upset about the raid on mar-a-lago. but i did the math. if only .001% of trump supporters, 1/1000 of a percent, it's still 74,000 people. that's a sellout at an nfl game. he needs to be really careful about inspiring violence. and i fear that he's desirous of it, not careful about it. >> completely. as he was, again, on january 6th. we've talked. he wanted that violence. he's desirous. paul's right. he wants this. >> yeah. and speaking of pence, here's how he responded on cnn's "state of the union" earlier today when he asked if he would testify in the trial. let's listen. >> i have no plans to testify. but look, we'll always -- we'll always comply with the law. but look, i want to tell you, i don't know what the path of this indictment will be. the president's entitled to a presumption of innocence. he's entitled to make his defense in court. there actually are profound issues around this pertaining to the first amendment, freedom of speech and the rest. i'm confident he and his lawyers will litigate all of those things. >> yeah. paul, i mean, i just don't see -- there's such a hesitancy there. and mike pence has slowly started to be more critical of the former president, his former boss. but there's such a hesitancy. and i guess as i was saying earlier, i don't understand why these republican rivals aren't going after trump. he's got three indictments. i mean, shouldn't that be -- >> i think joe's right that -- it's your party. you know and you talk to them on the radio every day of your podcast. >> you've been involved in campaigns. >> i think a lot of the trump base thinks these are unjust prosecutions. thereby, attacking him sounds like you're siding with the other side. but there's another way. and here's free political consulting. it costs people a lot of money. get off of trump and get on to the voters. i would say look, trump is who he is. but i can tell you one thing he's focused on. staying out of jail. you know what i'm focused on? keeping you on the job. i'm focused on your life. he's focused on his. so rather than litigate the charges against him, which is going to make a lot of republicans feel like you're unfair, why not fight for the voters and say look, the problem with this -- the problem with trump is he's like the pavarotti warming up before the opera. it's just me, me, me, me, me, me, me. and i'm going to be about you, you, you, you. your job, your health care, your kids, your future. i think there's a message there. christie got close to it at the cnn town hall meeting. he was the closest i've seen to that. but i think there is a real opportunity for somebody to talk about the voters instead of mr. trump. >> jim, there's no anti-trump lane in this party. if you're going to do it, you have to do what paul just sugg suggested. but i think it's too late. i think this guy's hold over the voters of this party is already set. >> yeah, and i was talking to des moines bureau chief for an iowa paper in cedar rapids and he was essentially describing it as a situation where trump is almost like the incumbent running in this field right now even though he's obviously not. let me ask both of you about this. trump's attorney is saying he can't get a free trial, trump can't get a free trial in washington, d.c. let's listen to this. >> we would like a diverse venue, a diverse jury. >> do you have any expectation that will be granted? >> that reflects the -- the characteristics of the american people. it's up to the judge. i think west virginia would be an excellent venue to try this case. >> speaking of the judge -- >> much more diverse. >> yeah, first trump is making this case about the first amendment and free speech. now his legal team is talking about diversity. that sounds -- what's the word i'm looking for? woke. >> that's a good point. d.c. is famous for being reluctant to convict. it's actually a pretty good venue to be a defense attorney. i talked to a federal prosecutor who's practiced in front of this judge who told me this judge is very tough on prosecutors, very much by the book. you can get a fair trial in d.c. or in west virginia or wherever. but he's not going to win this change of venue. he's going to have -- the problem is he allegedly committed the crimes walking distance to the courthouse. you walk right from that courthouse to the capitol building to the white house, the justice department, all the places named in that indictment. there's no way it's going to move out of there. again, maybe this is a political thing, attack d.c. and maybe it will help you with republican voters. but it's not going to help him with this judge to tell her she's not fair when she's got a reputation for being very scrupulous and protecting defendants' rights. >> nor the jury pool for that matter. and joe, i guess -- and you and i have talked about this countless times. aren't all of these really just delay tactics by donald trump? kick up some dirt out on the campaign trail, put out some truth social media posts. look what happened. the special counsel filed a motion for a protective order and so on. and now they'll have to adjudicate this to some extent. and it just kicks the can down the road a little longer. i talked to a trump adviser recently who said the goal is to get this past -- all these cases past the election. and then we'll see if we win. >> which he may be able to do. that's his goal. the other goal, jim, is every day paint himself as the biggest victim in the history of the universe. because that's his secret sauce with republican voters. so go after the judge, it's not fair. the jurisdiction's not fair. everything's not fair. >> but paul, a victim of what? >> he's a billionaire martyr. give me a break. i mean, come on, the guy poops in a gold toilet. this is not exactly very plausible. >> the deep state. my goodness. >> sorry, mom. we went to mass this morning. >> the pavarotti will get you off the hook when you did that earlier. thanks, gentlemen, very much. we appreciate it. elon musk says he will pay the legal fees for those who have gotten in trouble over twitter. why those fees aren't the only thing he's going after. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." helps restore gugum health, and rehardens enamel. i'm a big advocate of recommending things that i know wowork. hi, i'm jill and i've lost 56 pounds on golo. hi, i'm barry and i've lost 42 pounds. jill and i are a team. if she tells me to do something, i usually jump on board. golo was doable, it's realistic, and it's something we cado the rest of our lives. you tried. limiting when it was okay. no tech behind closed doors. but social media's algorithms of addiction always won out. it's not your fault. alone you can't stop it. together, we will. we have a plan. join us. 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money. he's the host of cnn's "nightcap." john, great to see you. musk making a pretty substantial monetary promise there, despite the fact that he's been losing a lot of money with x or twitter or whatever it's called on top of that. i guess he's got more money to dole out. what is going on here? >> right. a bold offer from elon musk. today musk tweeting, if you are, quote, unfairly treated by your employer due to posting or liking something on this platform, we will fund your legal bill. no limit. the key word there, no limit. now, is this a legally binding contract? i talked to one lawyer who said yes, it is. mark zave, he's a national security lawyer who represents whistleblowers. he tweeted that if you accept musk's offer he will represent you pro bono if musk does not pay up. now, i asked mark zade what accepting musk's offer would entail. he says it's as simple as responding to musk's tweet. although he did suggest sending a certified letter to musk and to twitter. now, another question is will musk's offer apply to, say, former twitter employees who found themselves fired after publicly going back and forth with elon musk on twitter? now, you might remember that after musk took over the platform some of the employees at the time got into these public back and forths with musk. one of them, eric fronhoffer was a twitter engineer who retweeted musk ofrs with a thinking emoji. although he did tell me he's not taking musk's offer seriously. >> yeah. and here's the other thing too. let's say you get fired because of something you tweeted and you want to sue your employer because of that. elon musk might pay your legal fees. but if you go through mediation or go to a judge or the judge says oh no, you deserve to be fired because you tweeted something in violation of your company's policy, i guess he covers your legal fees but you're still out of a job. you're still in trouble. so i guess i don't understand that. but -- and musk is also suing this disinformation research group known as the center for countering digital hate, accusing it of conducting a scare campaign to drive away advertisers. i mean, he's trying to be this defender of the first amendment and free speech on one hand but he's going after these guys. >> that's right. elon musk is keeping lawyers busy. this week he has filed a suit in san francisco federal court against the center for countering digital hate. it's a non-profit group that he has criticized for the company's monitoring the hate speech on the platform. the company in the suit alleges that the non-profit, quote, violated twitter's terms of service. they accused it of breaking federal hacking laws, of scraping data and using an unnamed individual to access third-party data. now, in response to this imran ahmed, the founder of the non-profit, told cnn thares like a, quote, conspiracy theory. in a statement posted on their website he said that elon musk's latest legal move is straight ouof the authoritarian playbook. the center for countering digital hate's research ows that hate and disinformation is spreading like wildfire on the platform under musk's ownership, and this lawsuit is a direct attempt to silence those efforts. >> yeah. let me ask you about this. musk is claiming that this possible showdown between himself and mark zuckerberg that they've been talking about -- i guess they talk about it being a cage match or something. i still don't think this is ever going to happen. but anyway, he says it's going to be streamed on x or twitter or whatever it's called now. by the way, if it's called x, why are we still saying tweeting? why does the website still say twitter.com? anyway, what can you tell us about this back and forth between these two guys? >> well, what once seemed like an absurd spectacle still seems like an absurd spectacle but one that might be one step closer to a reality. now, after mark zuckerberg and meta launched threads a couple months ago, elon muss sxk mark zuckerberg got into this back and forth about a cage fight. bear in mind these are two billionaire ceos, two of the most powerful people in the world, and yet they want to solve their differences in a cage fight. well, now elon musk tweeting today that the fight will be, quote, livestreamed on x and all proceeds will be going to charity for veterans. now, zuckerberg on threads, where else, countered, poking fun at twitter's reliability issues as of late saying that the fight should be on a, quote, more reliable platform. he says he's ready to fight any day. so the question is, jim, who are you taking? >> i think the other question is, jon, who's going to be watching. why would i want to watch those two guys beat each other up? i just -- i guess i'll watch a little. jon sarlin -- >> pure moments in modern reality. >> zuckerberg did do that surfing thing with the thing that came out of the water. maybe that gives him an edge. i don't know. i'm just guessing off the top of my head. all right, jon, we'll 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