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[music] tonight, neomi judd. >> it will be tragic and joyous on so many levels. i'm pamela brown in washington you are live in the cnn news room on this sunday. we begin this hour in ukraine with a climber of hope from one of the bleakest sites. these are images from mariupol. 100 civilians were evacuated today from the steel plant that was the final stand of recision. hundreds of people huddled in the basement there for weeks with food, water, medicine running out. just living there in desperation and several hundred are still there. evacuations are due to resume just hours from now. reports of new russian shelling could jeopardize that. the city has been relentlessly bombarded since the first days of the russian invasion, the sprawling complex, as you can see, has been reduced to ruins, every single building appears to be gutted or leveled. house speaker nancy pelosi led a surprise visit to kyiv and the delegation, the top u.s. official to meet with zelenskyy there. she reassured him that america is committed to ukraine's fight for democracy. >> we believe that we are visiting you to say thank you for your fight for freedom, that we are on the frontier of your freedom and your fight is a fight for everyone. we are here to be with you until the fight is done. >> let's go live to ukraine's capitol. we go to kyivi sara, what can you tell us about the evacuations from mariupol? >> reporter: we have been hearing about the people trapped there and worry about them getting enough oxygen of these bunkers underneath that steel plant. some of them, yes, evacuated. dozens of people. we are hearing stories now and reports of what it was like under there. there was not enough food, not enough water, not enough oxygen and people really feeling suffocated and terrified having heart problems and people feeling their heart was going to stop every time they would hear bombing wondering if they were going to survive after all of this time. clearly, there is good news for those that have been able to leave to get out of that situation after being trapped for such a long time. but, you know, mariupol is a different place than what it was when they first went into that bunker, some of them, it is a place that has been destroyed and it continues to be bombarded. there is deep fear among any of the civilians there about whether or not they will survive as they stream out for their lives. it has been one of those situations where there is both good news and troubling news as people are finally released. that is the good news, the troubling news, as you mentioned earlier, the bombardments continue and there is always a fear that is going to end in deaths. >> yeah. >> understandably, anyone's worst nightmare and you have new images of a grim reality of mariupol dealing with the grim losses. >> reporter: video that cnn received gives you a real look at what is happening and how many people are dieing on a regular basis. one of the people there, digging graves, you are seeing these mass graves and they are saying look, we are getting 50 or so people a day in the out skirts of mariupol they are having to bury. many unidentified. the bodies buried without identifying people and families having to come forth and trying to figure out where their loved one is. they are marked by crosses with numbers on them. it is really grim picture of what is happening and they do see this stopping any time soon. this is not the only one. there is one that is close to mariupol on the out skirts of the town. as you go further on there are satellite images of more places, just like that, with rows and rows and rows of freshly dug graves as this war continues. it is a disappointing view of what is going on in that area. pam? >> all right, sara, thank you very much. one of vladimir putin's arguments for an attack on a peaceful neighbor is nato would expand, it actually approved what he feared brooder, stronger, closer. within days, sweden and finland are expected to make a decision about joining the military alliance. and if you look right here, this is what you see. nato would almost double its land border with russia if finland joins and the alliance would be better positioned around the baltic sea. joining me now is head of u.s. diplomatic in finland. hi, ambassador, thank you for coming on. how concerning is it that nato expansion with finland, sweden or both will provoke more putin aggression? >> first of all for having me on, i appreciate it. the sabre rattling we have seen is not different from what the folks are used to seeing from russia for the last several years. we have seen airspace incursions. we have seen cyberattacks, gps spoofing and spamming. this is something they grown a customed to and the nuclear threat is a different level but not a particularly new argument from the russians. >> so, when you say particularly for a different order of magnitude, what do you mean by that? is there more concern that russia could deploy nuclear weapon than in the past? >> i don't think so, it is not a question of that. if you talk to experts in this region. military and analysts and a lot of the key politicians that live here, they will tell you, russians had nuclear weapons in this region for a long time with this kind of range. this is not something that they just started thinking about doing that always has been here and north has been talking about it. >> a couple weeks ago the widespread of reporting that sweden and finland were inching closer to signing, so, is finland backing away a little bit? what is going on? >> they are studying the report that the government is putting out a couple weeks back on the new security situation. they will probably have that wrapped up in the next week or so. and then, they are going to wait for the government to come out for the second report that will pose the specific question if finland should pursue a nato membership and on the basis of that question, then, the parliament will have to voice an opinion that will have to be the trigger if they go that way. for them to make this application to nato. sources are saying probably in the middle of may they will be close to that or ready to sort of come public with that. we are going to wait and see what happens. >> do you expect finland to apply to be membership. there are a lot of different steps, based on your position there in finland is that what you expect? >> well, if you look at the public opinion numbers they have been high and they have been sustained high, 65% or more. if you look at the informal polling of parliamentarians, they have not talked to everybody but the folks that have been answering, it reflects what the public opinion numbers are, 65-70% of parliamentarians say they are. it is one that will upend 70 years of security policy for them. we want to make sure they have the political space to make that decision in a measured way and so far it looks like they are doing just that. >> let's talk a little more about that. you mentioned that finished report. that government report noted it is likely that the country and nato member countries that are aspiring for this will be part of the talks in the transition phase. what methods could russia use to persuade finland from joining, what are the big concerns on that front? >> it goes back to what i was saying earlier. a lot of the same sort of bag of dirty tricks and the playbook that the russians used to date. disinformation campaigns, you will see more of that. we have seen some of it. cyberattacks we have seen some of that. president zelenskyy addressed the finished parliament, while he was addressing the parliament, the defense ministry got hacked. we will probably see more airspace incursions and things of that nature. >> it is interesting, you noted out public opinion is in favor of finland joining nato. but, before this war, this latest war it was not in favor of it. most people in finland actually thought they were safer outside of the alliance. now that has changed. of course, though, we know, russia attacks ukraine in the past. so, what is it about this war that has shifted public opinion there so much? >> i think the naked aggression was a shock to political leadership. they are a unique situation because of geography and border and having conversations with russia and they had sort of a conversation with leadership and in just as many other european countries found out on february 24th, putin was lying to them as he was lying to everybody else. it really shook both the people and the government, i think, in a way that nobody was expecting. >> yeah. for sure. understandably. thank you very much, ambassador, thank you for staying up late for us, it is 1:11 there, we appreciate it. >> happy to be here. thanks. head's up for cnn's big interview tomorrow morning. charge d'affaires, her first interview tomorrow morning at 9:00 eastern on cnn news room. and coming up next, the police now offering up to $10,000 for 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[music] >> reporter: country music legend naomi judd was one half of the group the judds. she was born in kentucky in january 1946, according to the judd official website, after the birth of her two daughters, wynonna and ashley, the family moved to tennessee where she worked as a nurse. by 1980 she began a musical career for herself and wynonna. they eventually produce a string of major hits, first single had a dream for the heart released in 1983, reached number 17 on the billboard country chart. [music] >> reporter: their next single "mama he is crazy" became the number one song on country radio. won the judd's the first grammy in 1984they sold more than 20 million records. >> which one ... >> reporter: younger daughter, ashley judd became an actress. for naomi judd, she got hepatitis c. a virus that causes cancer and my liver disease. >> "love can build a bridge" released in 1990 was the duo's final single n .2016, naomi judd opened up about mental illness saying she was diagnosed with severe depression and anxiety. the singer said at that time she would quote, not leave the house for three weeks and not get out of my pajamas and not practice normal hygiene, the same year wrote a book and how she emerged with hope explaining her struggles. >> i have certain things that i do every single day to help me get out of the depression. so, the stigma is horrible and that is why i try to shout it from the roof tops and tell everybody, hey, if it happened to me, it can happen to you, the good news, the spoiler alert is that i am recovering, i am healing. >> reporter: the judd's completed a farewell tour. >> the iconic duo, the judds. >> they said this year a final tour scheduled in september. >> the final tour. >> reporter: they performed publicly for the first time in years in april at the cmt music awards -frp the country music hall of fame described their music as harmonies with powerful lead vocals and acoustic with traditional, folk, blues and family family. >> life is absolutely fascinating. >> life is so unpredictable. and we don't know. someone said, it is not how many breaths you take it is how many moments take your breath away. [music] >> the duo was earlier scheduled to be inducted in the country music hall of fame tonight. 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>> because there's so much to to do. because i care passionately about the environment and animals and children. you know, actually not doing very well at moment. we are living in very dark times so my main job for a good many years has been giving people a hope that we'll lead them to take action. and although it may seem that as an individual you can't do much if millions of individuals make ethical choices in what they buy and interact with the environment then that's going to make accumulateively make a big difference. >> i have followed her career and efforts and asked her how often do you think about the early days in the 20s in africa. i had to ask about david g graybeard. >> without question the happiest days of my life. makes me nostalgic. i knew the chimpanzees as well as my family. the professors said they should have had numbers. that was scientific. i couldn't talk about the permit, the mind or the emotions because those were unique to us. i was told that the difference between us and all other animals is one of kind. a sharp line. we were separate. aloof from all the others in spite of darwin's theories but i knew that that was wrong. >> how often do you think about david graybeard? >> i think about him quite often. and there he is behind me back there. i think about them all. old no and fifi and all of them but those characters are gone now. >> i actually had to take a moment to introduce her to my animals in my home, my cat and dog and she actually spoke to them and i think at one point my cat was looking at her and felt like they had a connection. i wouldn't doubt it. she is still to this day on a quest for her conservation efforts and bringing awareness to how to affect the environment and the climate and she is just an incredibly passionate human being. >> she really is. such a great interview. thank you so much. on this sunday, when we come back, civilians trapped in a bombed out steel plant rescued at last. details on how they made it out when we come back. here's to real flavors... real meals. real good. all of knorr'high quality pasta and rice sides are now de with no artificial flavors or preservatives. knorr. tas for good. ♪ ♪ i came, i saw, i conquered. (all): hail, caesar! pssst caesar! julius! dude, you should really check in with your team on ringcentral. i was thinking like... oh hi, caesar. we were just talking about you. ha ha ha. yeah, you should probably get out of here. not good. ♪ ♪ ♪ ringcentral ♪ ♪ ♪ we believe there's an innovator in all of us. ♪ that's why we build technology that makes it possible for every business... and every person... to come to the table and do more incredible things. i'm pamela brown in washington. top stories tonight. civilian evacuations from the rubble of mariupol as a shaky cease-fire holds. more than 100 people have gotten out with more expected. the new struggle for covid long haulers. finding specialists to treat the conditions. reporting from dr. sanjay gupta. president biden pays tribute to a man he calls one of the great giants of u.s. history. you're in the "cnn newsroom." for the ukrainian civilians who have been hunkered down for days in a bombed out steel plant in mariupol the city under siege by russia's bombardment since the earliest days of the war and now tonight some 100 civilians have finally made it to safety. the civilians are now in a village after arriving on buses with ukrainian numbe