this as top pentagon officials are sharpening their stance toward moscow following critical talks with other military leaders in germany. we have an exclusive new cnn interview with america's top general. our correspondents are standing by at key locations in the war zone for cnn's live global coverage of russia's invasion of ukraine. we want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. we're following the breaking news on ukraine's angry response to russia's new talk of potential nuclear war, accusing the kremlin of trying to blackmail the world. more on that just ahead. but first we want to take you to the front lines of this brutal, brutal war. ukrainian forces say they're facing an offensive in all directions as russia intensifies its attacks in the east and the south. cnn's chief international correspondent clarissa ward traveled to the northeastern city of kharkiv and filed this powerful report on the widespread destruction there. >> reporter: there's no rest at night for the people of kharkiv. flares light up the sky as artillery thunders through the air. for nearly nine weeks ukraine's second largest city has been shelled relentlessly. only by day do we see the full scale of the destruction. the neighborhood of pav pavlova polye was hit repeatedly last month as russian forces tried to push into the city. no site was spared, not even the local nursery school. so it looks like this was some kind of a dormitory. you can see children's beds here all around. and then in the next-door room over there was their classroom. their shoes still litter the locker room. mercifully, the school had been evacuated, so no children were killed in the strikes. the mayor of kharkiv says that 67 schools and 54 kindergartens have been hit here since the war began. and what's so striking when you look around is that it's so clearly not a military target. this is a residential neighborhood. >> reporter: just a few blocks away the bare skeleton of an apartment building. authorities say more than 2,000 houses have been hit here. the sounds of war are never far away. >> you can see this is what's left of the bedroom here. it's just astonishing. >> reporter: two doors down we see a figure peeking out. 73-year-old larisa crimina is still living there alone. so she's saying that she does have a sister who she could stay with but she also lives in an area that's being heavily hit and she's living in a shelter at the moment. >> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> reporter: "it's from all sides," she says. "from there and there they can shell." with her fresh lipstick larisa is a picture of pride and resilience. much like this city. still standing tall in the face of a ruthless enemy. now, wolf, kharkiv's governor says that three people were killed in the shelling today. seven were injured. this is what it's like day in and day out. and when you talk to the residents of kharkiv, they fear that their city could become like mariupol. of course that's some of the worst horrors that we've seen in this war, and these new maxar images appearing to show that third mass grave just outside the city with harrowing reports emerging of people being forced to dig those graves in exchange for just a little bit of food and water to survive. you can imagine why it is that those kharkiv residents are so fearful that their city could be the next. wolf? >> it's so heartbreaking to hear those stories. clarissa ward, stay safe. we'll get back to you. thank you very much. let's get some new assessments right now on this war from top pentagon officials. the defense secretary lloyd austin speaking out after critical talks with other military leaders today in germany. and the chairman of the u.s. joint chiefs of staff general mark milley sat down for an exclusive interview with cnn's chief national security correspondent jim sciutto, who's covering all of this for us right now. >> reporter: at a gathering in germany of military leaders from america's closest allies, defense secretary lloyd austin said they must move together "at the speed of war" to help defend ukraine. >> we don't have any time to waste. the briefings today laid out clearly why the coming weeks will be so crucial for ukraine. >> reporter: in an exclusive interview with cnn the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general mark milley told me the stakes of the war in ukraine are global. >> if this was left to stand, if there is no answer to this aggression, if russia gets away with this cost-free, then so goes the so-called international order. and if that happens, then we're heading into an era of seriously increased instability. >> reporter: i pressed general milley on whether the u.s. and nato intended to weaken russia in addition to defending ukraine, as defense secretary austin said monday. has the u.s. aim in this conflict expanded beyond just helping ukraine defend itself to an aim of degrading russia's military so it cannot attack other countries? >> at the end of the day what we want to see, what i think the policy of all of our governments together, is a free and independent ukraine with their territory intact and their government standing and the russian aggression has been halted and stopped. and at the end of the day i think that's going to involve a weakened russia, i astrengthened nato. >> reporter: austin made clear the u.s. does not want war with russia but touted the resolve to rein in russia's bloody onslaught. >> in less than a week's time we were able to bring together 40 nations not just from europe but nations from the indo-pacific and a number of places because they are interested in helping a country protect its sovereign territory and also maintaining a rules-based international order. >> reporter: a coalition of defense leaders pouring weapons into ukraine, including a new batch of tanks from germany as an increasingly isolated russia resorts to deadlier tactics and more threatening rhetoric. russian foreign minister sergei lavrov drew the attention of u.s. officials monday when he said the danger of nuclear war is real. general milley called the comments irresponsible. >> well, anytime a senior leader of a nation-state starts rattling a nuclear saber, then everyone takes it seriously. and it's completely irresponsible for any senior leader to be talking like that in today's world. >> ukrainian president zelenskyy echoing general milley today saying that russia has no right to blackmail, in his words, the world with a nuclear threat. and today another notable nuclear moment. the 36th anniversary of the chernobyl nuclear disaster. and today the iaea director visited the chernobyl site, one, to mark that notable day but also, wolf, to bring radiation monitoring equipment, because remember, when the fighting in the early stages of this invasion reached the chernobyl area there were concerns about striking, perhaps disturbing some of the radiation there. the risks of fighting a war in a country that has active nuclear power plants of course all the worse. makes it all that more pointed a danger. wolf? >> jim sciutto reporting from ukraine for us. jim, excellent report as usual. thank you very, very much. let's get some more on all of this. joining us now the russian human rights activist, the former world chess champion garry kasparov. garry, thanks so much for joining us. is president zelenskyy right when he says putin is now trying to blackmail the world with these threats of a nuclear war? >> absolutely. putin is a master of a bluff, and he has been doing it for years and years. he kept raising the stakes. and unfortunately the opposition, i mean the leadership of the free world, kept folding the cards. and now putin's only card left on the table is nuclear blackmail. i still think it's a blackmail only. but he's seeing that nothing else works and he's trying to use it as a last resort. >> well, do you think putin would be prepared to become even more of an international pariah if he were to use a nuclear weapon in ukraine, for example? do you think that's at all realistic? >> i don't think putin cares about being a pariah. it's about staying in power. and also when we're talking about being pariah, so i heard it so many times, putin will be a pariah after the republic of georgia being attacked in 2008 or after annexation of crimea. oh, he will be a pariah. so putin looks at the outcome of his actions. he doesn't care about spilling blood, about killing people, carpet bombing, anything else. poisoning his political opponents with nerve agents. i think the only reason he may not use nukes is that he may not find russian generals and admirals willing to carry this suicidal order. >> that's a good point. putin did meet in moscow today with the visiting u.n. secretary-general. is this essentially just political theater for putin or is there possibility, possibility of some sort of diplomatic solution to the war in ukraine? >> of course it's a theater for putin. and i think it's a shame for u.n. secretary-general visiting russia at a time when russia violated every chapter of the united nations. what's the point of having these conversations that are serving only putin? i'm going to remind people that in 1939 the soviet union was expelled from league of nations for attacking finland. and now it's even much worse. we are in 2022 and after annexing part of ukraine in 2014 and starting war in eastern ukraine now putin's occupying a great chunk of this country and he has plans. it's not that i'm saying that. he kept saying that. his propaganda machine kept repeating it 24/7, that the russian plan is to destroy ukrainian statehood. what's the point of having any conversation or visiting moscow and sitting in front of putin and giving putin some sort of credibility? >> he is killing thousands and thousands of innocent ukrainian civilians, men, women, and children, in the process of whatever his objective happens to be. garry kasparov, thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks for inviting me. >> there's more breaking news coming up next. ukraine's president reacts to the latest nuclear saber rattling by putin. we're going to talk about that and more with the top republican on the house foreign relations committee. that's coming up next. how can you see me squinting? 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>> i do agree with zelenskyy. i think these are bold threats. it's very irresponsible for the foreign minister lavrov to make these comments, for putin to be a bully and a thug like he is to try to blackmail the west from helping. and i think it shows how aggravated putin is getting now. he was told this was going to be over in four days. here we are past the second month. and the ukrainians have really proven that they're battle-tested. more and more weapons are coming in. i just came back from the region, and i saw a lot of 18-wheelers going into ukraine with a lot of lethal weapons. and i think this is becoming very frustrating for putin as he tries to have some military victory by may the 9th, which is their victory day over nazi germany. that would be may the 19th. >> no matter what's going on i'm sure he will declare a victory on that day. the defense secretary lloyd austin said today that russia is weaker militarily than it was at the start of this war. but is russia weakened to the point that ukraine can in fact fight russia off its territory entirely? >> and who would have thought we'd even be talking about this, right? the fact that ukraine could beat perhaps the second or third greatest military in the world. i think the russians have shown to be somewhat incompetent, and i think secretary austin's correct in the fact that they don't have fresh recruits coming in. now, remember, they're redeploying the same worn-out low morale soldiers, you know, from kyiv through belarus to the donbas region in eastern ukraine, and they're shelling the donbas region. but their military's been greatly weakened. almost 30% of their combat forces taken out by either killed or casualties. and seven of their generals have been hit by sniper rifles on the battlefield. extraordinary on the part of ukraine. and we've got to keep fighting for them. what i'm seeing most interesting, wolf, is the narrative within the administration is changing from one of, well, we don't want to get provocative, not sure we want to send in weapons to now let's send in everything we can because we can -- the ukrainians can actually win this war. >> and on that point it's interesting because the uk today said 15,000 russian troops already have been killed since the start of this invasion. dove any specifics on the u.s. estimate of how many russian troops have been killed? 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"people don't want and cannot live under occupation," he says. "we've managed to get 7,000 out across our 100 miles of front line. some by bicycle. some by wheelbarrow or on foot." here's where they're welcomed. in president volodymyr zelenskyy's hometown, kri kriviy rykh. talk of a sham referendum on wednesday, trying to gentrify the russian occupation. and many flee these past days, with queues of cars backed up for miles. for this family it was about saving the eldest, fearing their 18-year-old son would be conscripted after the sham vote. "the first time we tried to leave they shot at us. the second time we got out," she says. "we are completely occupied," she says. "there's no food, no money. we have nothing. they'll do a referendum and take our children. my son is 18, and they'll take him as cannon fodder. we ran as fast as we could." it is jarring among the generosity of donations and offers of new homes to hear of the casual brutality of the occupiers. mikhail was tortured for days in a basement after russian troops mistook his rough builder's hands as a sign he'd been a soldier. "one got out a gun, a real one," he says. "i saw it was cocked. two shots. they hit the concrete wall. i think it was a starting pistol. two other men then came in and talked less. they were drunk. one must have been a boxer as he beat me in the same place on my ribs, breaking six of them, rupturing a lung." broken in parts here but even as russia closes in still breathing. wolf, it is unclear at this stage if that referendum you heard about that the russians want to hold essentially a sham in their occupied city of kherson will in fact go ahead tomorrow. there are suggestions maybe a rush appointment by the russian occupiers there of new local government officials in their eyes may be happening in place of that. but still the impact of that referendum was intense as was the impact of the shelling in the offensive south of here, kryvyi rih is deeply symbolic because it's where president zelenskyy comes from. it is certainly under pressure now. certainly the ukrainian forces claimed victory in the past 48 hours in terms of holding russian forces back. but i have to tell you having spent two days to the south of here in those winding roads around the fields, things are changing quite fast and there's great uncertainty about what may come ahead, particularly whether or not that russian onslaught is headed toward here, this large city, or going to curve round to the east, to where the other fighting you've been talking about and link up with that to perhaps encircle ukrainian troops there, wolf. >> cnn's nick paton walsh, stay safe over there. thank you very, very much. and joining us now, petro andrushenko. key adviser to the mayor of the southern city of mariupol. thank you, petro. thank you so much for joining us. thanks for all your hard work. your mayor, the mayor of mariupol, says a third mass grave has now been found near the city. how many people have been killed in your city so far? >> yeah, it's absolutely -- it's absolutely right information about mass graves that we found some days ago. because we know in cities the russian troops kill near the 22 -- hundred thousand people. and we know all this time when our city -- lots of cities occupied by russian troops they tried to hide the traces of their own war crimes. and they prepared three big graves for mass graving of our people. so in the first, the biggest mass grave, it's near the 300 meter long. and it's prepared for we think near the -- from three to eight hundred people. sorry? >> we heard your mayor, the mayor of mariupol, say that russia has forced ukrainians, people that live in mariupol, to work on mass burials in exchange for food and water. what can you tell us about that? >> yeah. you know, in our city, as you know, our people stay without food and normal water near the two months. and now what the russian did, they take our men and say if they want to eat they have -- they must to work for russian. and they work for russian and prepared the mass graving and they must to clean the city from dead bodies and from results of bomb shelling. but in reality it's not a normal food for this world because it's very small. it's some piece of bread and bottle of water. >> well, good luck to you. good luck to all the people in mariupol. petro andrushenko, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> for information about how you our viewers can actually help humanitarian efforts in ukraine go to cnn.com/impact and help impact your world. there's more breaking news next. new audio reveals that house republican leader kevin mccarthy feared that some far right lawmakers would actually incite violence against their own peers after the january 6th insurrection. we're going to hear a new just-released recording. that's next. eyes on the ball baby. digital tools s so impressive, you just can't stop. what w would you like the power to do? i didn't know my genetic report could tell me i was prone to harmful blood clots. i travel a ton, so this info was ki. maybe even lifesaving. ♪do you know what the future holds?♪ [inspirational soul music] [inspirational soul music] [inspirational soul music] this is vuity™, the first and only fda approved eye-drop that improves age-related blurry near vision. wait, what? it sounded like you just said an eye drop that may help you see up close. i did. it's an innovative way to... so, wait. i don't always have to wear reading glasses? yeah! vuity™ helps you see up close. so, i can see up close with just my eyes? uh-huh. with one drop in each eye, once daily. in focus? yep. 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>> paula, i understand we've also just received some new audio from the "new york times" revealing house republican leaders feared members of their own party would incite yet more violence after january 6th. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: well, here, wolf, "the new york times" has obtained this audio of house minority leader kevin mccarthy expressing concerns about far right house republicans inciting violence against other lawmakers in the aftermath of january 6th. so here during a january 10th call mccarthy urged republican leaders to monitor the public statements of lawmakers including representatives mo brooks and matt gaetz and alert him of any potentially dangerous messages. let's take a listen to what he said. >> tension is too high. the country is too crazy. i do not want to look back and think we caused something or we missed something and someone got hurt. i don't want to play politics with any of that. >> reporter: but he specifically took issue with representative gaetz's attack on his colleague, representative liz cheney. let's listen. >> well, he's putting people in jeopardy. and he doesn't need to be doing this. we saw what people would do in the capitol. you know. and these people came prepared with rope, with everything else. >> reporter: and these recordings are just the latest instances of contradictory statements mccarthy made in the aftermath of january 6th, while publicly he sought to downplay republicans' role in the attack privately he was expressing concerns about former president trump and now as we hear on these recordings even members of his own party. wolf? >> paula, i want you to stay with us. i also want to bring in our chief political analyst gloria borger. gloria, you can hear the fear in mccarthy's voice in that audiotape, that someone might wind up actually getting killed as a result of what some of his republican colleagues would be saying. >> what a difference 15 months makes. it's as if kevin mccarthy and other republicans seem to be having some sort of collective amnesia. they don't recall the way they were feeling or what they were saying to each other on january 6th or in kevin mccarthy's case they're lying about it. and you hear mccarthy on this call, not only is there fear but there's concern for fellow members. they're saying let's not play politics with this. but we have seen in recent months that kevin mccarthy has been very welcoming to a lot of these members. he has not punished these members like marjorie taylor greene or paul gosar, matt gaetz. so you see a very different mccarthy. and what's the reason for that? the reason is that he needs them if he's going to become speaker of the house. >> these are basically the same republican members that mccarthy essentially protected and enabled in the process. >> that's right. that's right. and he was saying these people are dangerous in this tape, wolf. he's saying we've got to be careful here. and now what he is doing is essentially underplaying publicly the things that they have done and the things that they have said. and that is because he believes he needs their support and they have the support of donald trump, don't forget. >> they certainly do. all right, gloria, thank you very, very much. paula reid, thanks to you as well. coming up, the vice president of the united states, kamala harris, tests positive for covid-19. we're going to have the latest on how she's doing and the potential risk right now for president biden. stay with us. we'll be right back. les are mad to be re-made. not all plastic c is the same. we're carefully designing our bottles to be 100% recyclable, includuding the caps. they'r're collected and separatd from other plastics, so they can be turned back into material that we use to make new bottles. that completes the circle and reduces plastic waste. please help us get every bottle back. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... the itching... the burning. the stinging. emerge tremfyant® with treya®, most people saw 90% clearer skin at 16 weeks the marity of people saw 90% clearer skin even at 5 years. tremfya® is the first medication of its kind also approved for adults with active psoriatic arthritis... and it's 6 doses a year after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. emerge tremfyant®. with tremfya®... ask your doctor about tremfya® today. 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>> because he meets with a lot of people. and they're trying to blanket the president by basically testing everybody who he comes into contact with. but the president can go off script, and we saw when he was in poland with the troops where against i think the advice of his physicians he basically couldn't help himself. he's such a -- you know, an outgoing person and had, you know, lunch with the troops. and sat and that kind of close personal contact with a lot of folks and troops who are untested will expose you to this virus and the more you do that, the more likely you are to contract covid. >> yeah, someone of his age potentially could be pretty ri risky if he came down with covid, right. >> yeah, so who's at risk, vice-president and president are both vaccinated and boosted, we know the president had a second boost, so the likelihood he would need to be hospitalized or die from this virus is very unlikely but he can get sick and what we've seen from data out of israel, the folks who do succumb to this virus despite being vaccinated are typically in the demographic of the president, typically people who are older and the president will turn 80 this year. >> yeah, so that's potentially a problem. while i have you, dr. rhiner, let me get your thoughts on this new documentation from u.s. task force, no longer recommending baby aspirins for individuals out there, that they could be more problematic than helpful. what is your assessment right now? a lot of our viewers told by their card yaiologists or docto it's a good idea to take a baby aspirin. >> the recommendation is for primary prevention, which means taking the aspirin basically to ward off an initial event and what the data shows for mpeople have not had a heart attack or stroke or bypass surgery or something like that, the evidence doesn't really support that taking an aspirin, the benefits out weigh the risks, principly of bleeding. the now, the people who have had a heart attack or stent procedure like i do, for those people aspirin is crucial and that's called secondary prevention so it's important to understand, if you do take an aspirin everyday, before you stop it, talk to your doctor, understand why you are taking it, and there are certain folks who have such high level of cardiac risk who have not yet had a first event who should also take it but again these are individualized physicians, discuss it with your physician. >> really important, always have a conversation with your doctors. so important. dr. rhiner, thank you very much as usual for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> dr. jonathan rhiner with george washington university. up next, what could be a surge of antisemitic attacks and harassment across the united states, new information just coming in, we'll be right back. shows ininstantly if you're below, within or above your range. it cheers you on and provides guidance. connnnected to your health and your phone. visit onetouch.com today. ♪ (drum roll) ♪ ♪ (energetic music) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (camera shutters) the all-new lx 600. ready for any arena. ♪ ♪ i didn't know my genetic report could tell me i was prone to harmful blood clots. i travel a ton, so this info was kind of life changing. maybe even lifesaving. ♪do you know what the future holds?♪ we're following a very disturbing surge of antisemitic attacks and harassment across the united states. cnn's brian tod working the story, i know you're looking at these new just-released number and see they're alarmingly high. >> they r are wolf, looking at e numbers and tracking the disturbances in america in 2021 and the causes. >> reporter: a horrifying surge in 2021 of antisemitic incidents in america. >> 2021 came in the year of the highest we ever tracked with 217 incidents, 417% increase year over year with 34% spike in assaults. >> while we can't track the exact motivation for , tracking just after fighting in gaza just after last year. >> we had jews being attacked and beaten in broad day light in mid town manhattan, los angeles, southern florida, las vegas. >> incidents like an attack an a sushi restaurant in los angeles, witnesses said people got out of a car, asked who was jewish and began beating people who were. >> reporter: in new york city, 29-year-old jewish man was attacked walking to a rally in time square by a group of people who yelled antisemitic slurs at him. >> i was attacked by a whole group of individuals who proceeded to kick me, punch me, assault me with weapons. >> reporter: those who track hate groups said unpoliced social media platforms have also contributed to the problem. >> social media has changed the game for the spread of antisemitism and other hateful rhetoric and content. the far-right ecosystem has really weaponized social media. >> reporter: this year, no signs of a let-up. in january, a harrowing stand off at a synagog in texas lasted 11 hours when an armed man held four people hostage. the hostages survived. the attacker, killed by law enforcement. the same month, two chicago synagogues were targeted with vandalism during one weekend, also earlier this year, hundreds of antisemitic flyers falsely claiming the public health response to covid was being orchestrated by jewish people distributed in several states. >> how can the spread of antisemitism be combatted in america? political leader advise to call it out more often, law enforcement has to engage with communities and they say social communities have to step up and police content more than they do. wolf, a lot has to be done. >> a lot has to be done, disturbing indeed. thank you, very much, and thanks for our watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the "the situation room," erin burnett starts right now. >> "outfront" next, new fears that putin's war is expanding, explosions rocking ukraine's neighbor and grizzly new tales of russians forcibly removing people from their homes, holding others against their will, bound and tortured, special report ahead. plus, inside the sprawling steel plant where ukrainian soldiers are holed up, called a city under a city, stretched four square miles and is built to be safe from a nuclear sacramento

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