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they're meeting with president zelenskyy lasted 90 minutes, major announcements include that the u.s. will send diplomats back to ukraine for the first time since they pulled out for safety just after putin launched this war. president biden will now nominate a new ambassador to ukraine, bridgette brink, who was the current ambassador to slo slovakia. also decidedly different language from the secretaries about the future of the war. >> in terms of our -- their ability to win, the first step in winning is believing that you can win. and so they believe that we can win, we believe that they -- we can win -- they can win if they have the right equipment, the right support and we're going to do everything we can, continue to do everything we can to ensure that that gets there. >> we don't know how the rest of this war will unfold, but we do know that a sovereign, independent ukraine will be around a lot longer than vladimir putin's on the scene. >> now, notably, and i believe for the first time, the senior u.s. official, defense secretary lloyd austin, said that he wanted to diminish russia's military power going forward, not just now, but in the future so russia could not do this again. >> we want to see russia weakened to a degree that it can't do the kinds of things that it has done in invading ukraine. so it has already lost a lot of military capability and a lot of -- a lot of its troops, quite frankly, and we want to see them not have the capability to very quickly reproduce that capability. >> also breaking overnight, missile strikes in the lviv region, this is in western ukraine. officials say russian forces struck five railway stations in the west, also in the center of the country, all of this within an hour and there are casualties we have learned. in the meantime russian forces are bombarding that steel plant in mariupol, the last holdout where ukrainian forces and hundreds of civilians are sheltering there and this, of course, despite the fact that russia said they would be laying siege not bombarding as we understood it the steel plant. ukrainian forces say they're willing to leave the facility and leave if there is safe passage for them and the civilians. a top official telling "the new york times" there is no agreement to allow anyone to leave the plant and ukrainian forces at the plant are still fighting. in kherson an ominous warning from a top ukrainian military official who says russian force right side preparing an offensive strike formation near the city, an attack anticipated there within days. >> we want to go to ukraine's second largest city kharkiv in the east and bring in cnn's chief international correspondent clarissa ward, standing, my goodness, clarissa, where are you? >> reporter: so we are in what remains, john, of the regional state administration building. you know, you had just talked about defense secretary lloyd austin saying it's possible the ukrainians could win this if they have the right equipment. well, this is what they're up against and i want to take you around so you can get a feel for the full scale of the damage that was done here when two massive missiles landed in and around this building last month. you can see just hout what's left of the window there, that is freedom square. and this city has been getting pulverized day in, day out, just today we have heard pretty much a constant stream of bombardment since about 4:30 in the morning, often it goes on all night, and the mayor here says that 25% of the buildings in this city have been hit during strikes. 25%. just try to get your head around the enormity of that figure. 67 schools have been hit. this was once a palatial grand staircase, now completely destroyed. according to authorities only ten people were killed here, which is extraordinary, although i've just been talking with one of the soldiers who is in charge of looking after this space and he says they believe there are many more dead under the rubble. i'm going to show you what some of that rubble looks like over here. people were rescued as well, but going back to those statistics that the mayor gave us, 67 schools, 54 kindergartens, 16 hospitals. that's just here in the city of kharkiv. you can see the defenses that they had tried to implement to protect themselves from attack, but obviously sandbags no match for this -- i don't know if you can hear that as well, some bombardment again in the distance. and you can see outside the scale of the devastation. cars completely scorched, there's actually an office over there to the side that we can't get into easily from this point which we saw yesterday where an entire car has literally been thrown into an office by the force of that blast. and what people here fear in this city is that kharkiv could be the next mariupol. because of the amount of bombardment and the real intensification that we've seen of that bombardment, especially in the last week. now, i just want cameraman scottie and producer brent swales to be a little careful mere, but i do want to show you this because it gives you a real feeling for just the enormity of that blast. i mean, absolutely astonishing. it literally took out six stories and that's why as you can probably imagine we're hearing from authorities here that they do believe some people are still trapped under that rubble, but that it is just simply impossible for them at this stage with bombardment continuing day in and day out in this city for them to try to dig down underneath that and get a sense of just how many people may have lost their lives here. one more thing i think that's important to contextualize in terms of what i was saying about how people here fear that this could be the next mariupol, kharkiv is 30 miles away from russia, it's in the northeast of the country, it's the second largest city and russian troops essentially have been launching this three-pronged offensive in the donbas region, pushing down from the north, up from the south and in from the east. ukrainian forces have also been launching a series of counter-offenses, particularly around the strategic town of izyum. so kharkiv is very close to a lot of the action, there are a lot of important supply routes for the russians to get more ammunition and weaponry to places like izyum and that's why it's strategically important not to mention of course the symbolic value and you can imagine the symbolism of this building. you talk to the locals, this was a place people came to pose for photographs, this was a place you would dress nicely to visit and now this is what's left of it. john, brianna? >> clarissa, kharkiv is just so emblematic of, i think, what vladimir putin expected and what the ukrainians were not going to go along with. like you said, it's so connected to russia, it's right there near the border and of course there's strong resistance there. what are people there telling you, even as they're enduring this, and they are remaining or fleeing? >> reporter: well, this is what's so hard to get your head around, brianna, because if i lived in a city that was being bombarded in this way, i would probably flee. i'm not that brave. but the people of kharkiv are staying put. this is a city of about 1.5 million, they estimate as many as a million people are still here. now, obviously we have no way of being able to verify that number, but certainly you do still see that people are here. even in the hardest hit areas, there's a place on the northeastern outskirts that we spent some time in over the weekend. incredibly dangerous. relentless bombardment. there are still people living in those apartments. and they live and they stay for different reasons. for some it's an act of resistance, it's a way of showing defiance, for others it's a question of they're elderly, they don't necessarily have anyplace to go and i'm wondering if we can just come down here to try to take a look at the size of the crater that is outside there. so a lot of people don't want to leave, brianna. they do want to stay. the interesting thing when you're walking around on the streets, though, what you don't see -- you do see some people -- this here is sort of the grand entrance, if you will, to this building -- but you don't see a lot of children. there are still children in the city, but the vast majority of them are living underground at the moment in the metro station. so this here was sort of the grand entrance to that building, you can see some workers have parked up a van here, they're trying to sort of remove some of the valuables, but, again, you can just see the scale of the damage, the devastation. there is a huge crater there behind that white van that you can't get such a good look at from this angle, but also the building behind you can see the facade of it has basically been torn off. so it's frankly astonishing to think that anyone is brave enough to stay here and the question is how long is that sustainable? as i mentioned that area where we were over the weekend, constant bombardment, there is no running water in most of those homes and a lot of them they don't even have electricity and yet you talk to some of these women, i spoke to one, brianna, she came to the door, she's wearing lipstick. what does that say? what kind of courage does that speak to that someone is still dressing themselves, putting their makeup on even in the face of this hell scape and continuing to live their daily lives to make a point that they will not be forced from their homes. >> it says you lose, vladimir putin. clarissa ward, what a remarkable guided tour through destruction there. thank you. and frankly you're brave enough for anything, but the most important thing is that you're telling us these stories so the world can see. joining me is retired army major mike lions. i want to play some sound for you from state department spokesman ned price where he talks about how he thinks this war is going. listen. >> what we have seen from our ukrainian partners is nothing short of victory on the battlefield. i think it's important to note that our ukrainian partners won the battle of kyiv, right now they are winning the battle for ukraine. this is going to be a victory for ukraine, a strategic defeat for russia. however and whenever that happens we are confident of that. >> they are winning the battle for ukraine. that's new language, frankly, from u.s. officials saying that ukraine is winning. now, how do you combine that language from the u.s. along with what clarissa was showing us in kharkiv, destroyed building, how is it that ukraine can win here? >> ukraine wins by not losing number one and number two ukraine can win as long as russia fails at two things, the first thing is the reorganization which they seem to be doing and the second thing they have to fail at is learning. we have not seen any indication that the russian military has learned anything since this started. let's go back to reorganization. we know that in the donbas region that russia put about 20 battalion tactical groups here in order to reinforce what is an offensive coming down this way and going in this direction. so for the past eight days i'm looking at intel and seeing the bottom line is they haven't moved, they haven't really gone anywhere. what's happened is the ukraine military has destroyed about 100 russian tanks, 250 armored personnel carriers. we know we're fighting a numerical superior force but the bottom line is that's ten tactical groups. they put in 14, they're losing 10, that's where we're coming to this calculus they are winning. if they can grind this down, now it's time and space and if we can grind this down over maybe one or two weeks russia will have no way to reorganize in that area and perhaps ukraine military goes on the counteroffensive. that's an artillery battle taking place in kharkiv, let's bring that self-propelled howitzers and fire back at the russians. i guarantee the ukraine military is itching to go on the counteroffensive. >> even if the russians are taking some towns and making progress broadly along this line. >> and that's okay. because, again, they're going to give that ground because they're eventually going to get it back because we bring the reinforcements up from ukraine, both artillery, self-propelled artillery. it's more than just what the united states is providing, there's nato forces providing a lot of different things. i think that that's where he's getting that from. he's looking at that saying we get a report that the russians have put a bridge across -- or some other place, this is not the technical competence we expect from the military. russia should be already in kree ma torse k. >> and when you look broadly speaking at all the territory that they're operating, we don't want to say occupying because they don't have full control of it, but they're operating in these, you don't think they can sustain this based on the resupply you've seen in a they don't have it coming from russia. they're running out it's got to do with american soft power, the lethality of the javelins, the intelligence we're providing them. we're giving the ukrainians on the ground the places to go to make the most impact. russia fight this artillery, bring troops, they don't have enough infantry because russian soldiers want to stay in their vehicles, it's nice and safe there. they realize the javelins blow the tops off them. all of those things are factoring now exponentially as this is going on, the word is getting through the troops and that's why they're failing. >> great to have you here. nice to meet you. the u.s. has imposed sanctions on some of russia's biggest companies and leaders including vladimir putin himself but according to a new report in the "wall street journal" the government is holding off on sanctioning one person who could prove to be the ultimate slap in the face to the russian leader. the paper writing the u.s. has imposed sanctions on mr. putin's two adult daughters, moving against the mother of his children described by the u.s. government as the mistress is among the actions deemed confrontational enough. joining me is "wall street journal" national security reporter vivian salamo with us. this is fascinating because not only is she the mother of at least three of vladimir putin's children she is also a place where he positions a lot of his wealth as well as with her family you write. >> which is what the government says would be ultimately their justification for going after her, just as they did with his daughters a couple of weeks ago. they have been looking into this and i can tell you that the treasury department worked on the sanctions, and they had it ready to go but at the last second the white house's national security counsel decided to pull the plug on t and the reason they said and the exact word was that officials told us is it's escalatory. now, a lot of people out there might hear that and say we want to escalate tensions against vladimir putin but there's different kinds of escalations, there's the kind that have an impact and can slow the war effort, the bombardment we saw from clarissa and others in ukraine and then there's escalatory in terms of just completely damaging any prospect for a future relationship. the u.s. still kind of clinician hope to. they still cling to that notion that they will be able to find a negotiated settlement and that relations will normalize with russia though not now. >> they're clearly worried that he would have a very elevated and emotional reaction if they did this, right? >> absolutely. this is something that was deemed so sensitive that they decided to hold off because they believe that putin's response to be so irrational, so angry that there would be some sort of backlash. they sort of weighed the impact that the potential action could have versus vladimir putin's reaction and any kind of retaliation or whatever the cost would be for such an action and they decided that the best option was to hold off for the time being. >> she kind of popped up here at the last minute, right, before you put this story out? >> we were in a scramble on saturday night. i can tell you we have been on a goose hunt looking for her, trying to track her down. she had been living in switzerland for some time, with he knew which cities or houses she had been frequenting, she was very much behind closed doors, the kids are believed to have home schooled. it was a huge mystery. no one knew where she was. the swiss government put out a statement that was a little bit shadesy where they said we believe she has left but we don't know where she is and they left it at that. we've been wondering and trying to hunt her trail down to see if she might be. on saturday night before we were set to publish she popped up at this festival in russia. we had to do a lot of last minute editing to note that she had resurfaced but that was a surprise visit and a rare one. >> it is a fascinating read, i would encourage our viewers to take a look at your piece on his reputed girlfriend, mother of vladimir putin's children. just really interesting stuff. >> very important to realize it's reputed, vladimir putin to this day denies there is a relationship. >> the kremlin is very official about that, aren't they? thank you so much, vivian, really appreciate it. more on our breaking news out of ukraine, we will be speaking with the head of the military in donetsk in eastern ukraine where the battle is raging. plus what emmanuel macron's reelection means for the fate of far right nationalism in europe. and the big lie still proving to be the big motivator for republican voters this midterm election season. 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>> translator: yes, this is a very significant step. this is a show of unity from the west and europe and the u.s. in particular, show that the world community stands united with ukraine and the leadership of the united states is ready to bring back and some back to life in kyiv in these difficult conditions, but they're ready to come back to kyiv and join in the effort of restoring normal life so that we can focus on the areas that where there are acts of hostilities but in the meantime start restoring life where we can. >> so how much ground would you say the russians have been able to dane in the donetsk region? >> translator: the fighting is ongoing and that includes mariupol, the ukrainian flag still flies over mariupol and the fighting is ongoing there. they have not taken it yet. so the only place, the only town russians have taken is now controlled by the russians but they have not taken any of the key cities. so all the other places that you may have heard about fighting, active fighting is ongoing there and that includes the place the city of -- a town bordering on the kharkiv region and also the town of dolena. that's where the biggest fighting is on at the moment but no key areas have been captured yet by the russians. >> "the new york times" reports that one of the leaders of the azov battalion holding off in mariupol has offered to evacuate the city, so leave in return for safe passage for themselves and runs of civilians, what can you tell us about that? >> translator: i have seen this report through various media. what i can say at the moment is that there is no talk about any civilian evacuation or any -- anybody leaving. as off stall is one of her best defended areas at the moment and ukrainian fighters are courageously fighting for the city of mariupol, they are inside and there is no agreement about anybody leaving azovstal as of this moment. >> you know there are those who think it would be a ukrainian victory to push russia back to where they were at the beginning of the most recent invasion but that would still mean that the city of donetsk wouldn't in their hands. how would you feel about that? >> translator: my position is that all of the territory including the temporarily occupied territory of donetsk and lieu hans, is the property of ukraine. we are defending and repelling the aggression from the enemy and we will repel this aggression and then after that we will talk about recapturing the -- liberating the areas that are temporarily occupied. but we realize that this needs to be a gradual thing and as we receive support and additional weapons from our partners, but we have always declared and will continue to declare our goal is that we shall not give up an inch of ukrainian territory, not a centimeter. >> i understand your parents and elder brother are in the russian-controlled region and siding with them. how hard is that for you? 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what about maryland? point to go stats where democratic majorities have tried to push through lopsided maps to which i would say exactly. courts in new york and maryland struck down those partisan maps designed to benefit democrats. maryland a judge slammed the extreme gerrymander that subordinates constitutional criteria to political korgss, ordered the state legislature to drop new maps making one democratic district more competitive. that's done, signed into law. in new york two rounds of judges have largely agreed that the maps violated the state's ban on partisan gerrymandering. the case will probably head to a higher court but the principle is what's right is right and courts need to be consistent in applying the law beyond partisan consideration. anything else is just situational ethics. and that's why it's vital that judges in florida and ohio do the same. they can and should block power grab maps that are being pushed by people who believe they can ignore the voters, courts and state constitutions by running out the clock. this isn't just a threat to democracy but a promise of fair districts and competitive elections with representative results. it's also a threat to the rule of law. and that's your reality check. >> john avalon, thank you very much. we do have breaking news, air strikes on five railway stations in central and western ukraine, an official there says the attacks are holding up more than a dozen passenger trains that have been helping ukrainians evacuation. the former president of ukraine calling on the west to deputin niez russia. he will join "new day" next. and a woman from bucha recounts the horrors she experienced at the hands of russian forces including the shooting death of her mother. cnn special live coverage. bonnie boon i'm calling u out. everybody be cool, alright? 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>> we applaud the global leadership of u.s. and ukraine support. definitely they understand better than anybody that this war is bigger than ukraine. this war is about all of us, about the free world. and the visit of secretary blinken and secretary austin is greatly symbolic move because world is divided before and after 24th of february. this visit is the first visit of high-ranking u.s. official after the full-fledged war in the capital of ukraine. it's extremely important to send a very powerful message worldwide that ukraine is not only fight, we know exactly what does it mean, but ukraine could win. and i thank first of all the volume of the united states support to ukraine, this is a great example for the other world, exactly from the beginning of russian invasion and during the visit it was declared about $750 million additional. still definitely it is not enough. we need more and we need more destructive oil embargo, gas embargo, and something similar with their oil-for-food program. and i think that with the situation, we definitely need importance of these symbolic steps. and i also think that we need deputyize russia. and we now is a very powerful flank destroying russian state. and i think another symbolic importance is president biden, and we welcome the nomination of the new u.s. ambassador. we're waiting for that for many, many months. and bring the new candidate for ambassador and we're definitely waiting here in kyiv. >> it will be the first time the u.s. sent a full-time ambassador in ukraine since 2019. mr. president, what would it mean to weaken russia going forward or to de-putinize russia going forward? 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>> barbara, really appreciate that report. barbara starr live at the pentagon. if you are thinking about suicide or worried about a friend or loved one, the national suicide prevention life line is available around the clock. the hot line number is on your screen right there. "new day" continues right now. good morning to viewers here in the united states and all around the world. it is monday, april 25th. i'm john berman with brianna keilar. we begin with breaking news. emerging from a high-stakes visit by secretary of state antony blinken and defense secretary lloyd austin to kyiv. this was the first time high-level officials visited ukraine since the russian invasion. they're meeting with president zelenskyy lasted 90 minutes. major announcements came out of it

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