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equipment. the other would order the department of homeland security to do that job. it's unclear who drafted the orders and very important to know neither was ever sent. >> now the committee has the testimony of someone who might know something about all of this. cnn was first to report former vice president mike pence's chief of staff mark short quietly testified before the house select committee. caitlyn polan starts us off in washington, d.c. caitlyn, help our viewers out here. what might mark short actually be able to offer investigators about what was going on inside the west wing leading up to january 6th. >> reporter: good morning, laura. mark short is really the top guy around mike pence in the vice president's office at key moments. we don't know exactly what he told the committee. my colleagues did learn this was a lengthy session that he took part in last week when he went to speak to the committee. he also had handed over a limited amount of documents previously and pence -- i'm sorry, short really was the person that was with pence in all of the moments. so he was with pence at the capitol on january 6th when pence's life was in danger. he was in key meetings at the white house with the president and the vice president where there was this pressure campaign building to try to get pence to stop and not certify the congressional vote for the election and what this does is it really is more building momentum. we've seen this for weeks and weeks now, that the house committee is getting more and more people closer and closer to donald trump in the room for key moments and it really signifies progress to the point where there are people close to donald trump who including short's counter part, mark meadows, the chief of staff to trump himself, who are refusing to speak to the committee at this point and what we are still wondering is how much of a willingness does this reveal of people around the vice president. does this mean that pence himself could be willing to testify or is this enough for the committee where pence can potentially say, you know, you heard from my top guy. i'm not willing to go in? that still really remains to be seen. >> maybe the top guy can be perhaps a little bit more frank than pence might want to be. they now have people. they also have papers. let's talk about that scoop from paula reid and zakharchenko hen on the draft executive orders. we knew that certain advisers to the president, people on the fringes like mike flynn, had been advocating actively to seize voting machines. we now know that there were actually two draft orders here. what's the significance? >> reporter: right. laura, what we learned yesterday, the scoop from zakharchenko hen and paula reid, is that the national archives, when they were handing over documents that the house was requesting and trump was trying to keep secret, they got this draft executive order. we learned about this a couple of weeks ago that said that the white house theoretically could go in and use the pentagon to seize voting machines. the new revelation is there were two of these. there was also one that could have directed the department of homeland security to go in and seize voting machines. these weren't signed by the president but it really does show that this wasn't just a quick idea. it was something that apparently got into the white house records, was something that was floated around trump and was being discussed from what we understand among top people that trump was talking to. maybe not employees themselves at the white house. everyone i've talked to said this would have been something the administration could have feasibly done legally but it was an idea that was persisting up to and until january 6th as far as what we know about these themselves, these documents. >> caitlyn, i want to ask you while i have you about this extraordinary statement last night from the national archives talking about having to tape back together documents that they believe, i say they believe because we don't have the evidence, to suggest that trump actually was ripping up documents in the oval office, documents of course that the committee wants related to january 6th. this is something that others have reported is a habit of him, routinely destroying documents. isn't this obstruction? this is outrageous. >> reporter: well, we don't know if it's obstruction because we don't know what the documents are. we don't know what the intent is. a lot of questions before we get to that place, but the archives did say whenever cnn asked and other news outlets, some of trump's presidential records received by the national archives were paper records that were torn up by former president trump. this was documents that went over in the batch to the house. from what i can understand from people i've talked to, that this was just a quirk of the trump presidency. it was something that happened all the time. like you mentioned, we don't know why the archives says it was trump himself that was doing the ripping up, but the documents here, these are not tissues, these are pieces of paper that were federal records from the trump presidency that trump, from what we understand, was trying to hold back to protect the secrecy of his administration, of his white house and that the house was going after for months and finally won that supreme court case that gave them access. >> just incredible. never mind the presidential records act violation there, just the image of some soul that has to piece back together all of these documents is just incredible. caitlyn, thank you. to the tensions now between russia and ukraine. u.s. secretary of state antony blinken about to have a crucial phone call with the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov. he'll hopefully dial down those tensions over russia's military buildup which almost surrounds ukraine. that tension on public display at the u.n. >> translator: since our american colleagues convened yesterday, let them show us any evidence apart from bogus narratives that russia is ip tend intending to attack ukraine. >> if russia invades ukraine, none of us will be able to say we didn't see it coming and the consequences will be horrific. >> cnn is there. melissa bell is in ukraine. to nic robertson live in moscow. take it away, nic. >> reporter: yeah. what we're expecting for that phone call, it will be a conversation perhaps that will get to some of what russia's final response -- full response is going to be to the united states, response to russia's demands last week. it's still waiting in the wings to happen. the president's spokesman at the kremlin said that it was going to happen. the response would come -- a full response would come when the president is ready to give it. we may get an inkling of that today. president putin is going to be on camera later today. meeting with perhaps his friendliest co-leader in the european union from hungary is coming to moscow. they're meeting, having a working lunch. afterwards in three or four hours from now they're going to have a press conference. it is expected that president putin would be asked the question about the response to the united states response to his demands. it's not clear that it's going to give a full reply to it, but i think that's the first venue where we may get an inkling what president putin is thinking. his diplomats, foreign minister has been sort of keeping a diplomatic track open. they have written over the weekend to nato and the osc asking for clarity on a previously raised security question issue affecting russia and ukraine, but at the moment we just do not have that full response from president putin. >> all right. nick, thank you so much. laura? 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we know the process had slowed down because of the disappointing results of a two-shot regime? >> right. they're not quickening the science, they're not rushing the research. what they're doing is saying let's at least get the information we have in the hands of the fda now. it's like watching a tv show every week instead of watching it in one session. they're saying let's get the fda as much as we have so they can start reviewing it so when we get this everything else ready, we're good to go. we're not waiting a whole time period for all of the data to be reviewed. i think this is a smart choice because parents very badly want this vaccine for their children. health care providers very badly want the vaccine for the children. at no point do we want to compromise that. >> i will be the first one lined up at my son's pediatrician's office to get that shot in his little arm. 5 to 11-year-olds are far and away the least vaccinated group -- age group by percentage. should there be a new strategy, doctor, to get this youngest group protected in the way they need to be? >> right. so you're exactly right. more access to vaccines is wonderful but the real deal here is vaccination. we need shots in those arms and so the strategy might need to be different. we have definitely reached a very granular level of the pandemic where there are so many different groups out there who have heard so many different messages. unfortunately for many in the parent category, it's disinformation. so the one-to-one conversations, the community support is going to be so very vital. again, this is going to be a granular level approach. family practice doctors, pediatricians understand the benefit of vaccines. vaccines have long been a problem of their own success. >> just to be very clear, doctor, you're telling your patients to get the shots in those little arms, yes? >> most definitely. both of my children were vaccinated. they were vaccinated as soon as they could be. i would never recommend something i wasn't comfortable giving to my own children. i know some of the researchers in town personally and their joy when they were able to vaccinate their own children really resonated with me. they were so excited for their own children and they know the data better than anybody else. this was in the 12 and above group so, again, i think that everybody is looking forward to this but we have some major ds information that we have to counter. >> thank you so much. two dozen new coronavirus cases detected days ahead of the beijing olympics. some have also been discovered among athletes and staff living in what's known as the closed loop system. it's a quarantine bubble cut off from the rest of the city. cnn's steven jiang live in beijing. what happens when a positive case is found in the closed loop? >> reporter: well, then they have to be isolated. as you say, this covid containment policy continues to be the top priority for the organizers and authorities, both in and out of the loop. out of loop actually not far away from the bird's nest, that's a stadium where the opening ceremony will be held in a few days. authorities have sealed off a few apartment blocks because of some fresh cases there, but inside the loop, as you said, which is completely sealed off from the rest of the city, more cases on monday. 24 people tested positive. some of the athletes actually testing positive are speaking out, including american bobsledder alana myers tater. she is a three-time olympic medalist. this is her fourth games. this is the most special because she actually has brought her son nico with her. nico who is turning 2 later this month was born with down's syndrome. her dream is really to put a medal around his neck on the podium this time. obviously now she's facing obstacles. she's in isolation. according to the rules she has to test twice negative within two consecutive days before she can be released from isolation. best of luck to her, christine. >> of course. thank you so much, steven. we know you'll be following that for us. a warning from the white house that friday's jobs report may be weak. the numbers are secret before they come out. somewhere between 160,000 jobs added in january and 200,000 jobs lost. compare that to last year's average of 537,000 jobs added last month. the biden administration racing to get out ahead of the news. the omicron variant was surging right at the exact time the monthly payroll survey was being taken. >> reporter: the payroll survey, you're sick, maybe you're caring for someone with covid. there are millions of people like this. if you are not at work because of the omicron variant, you're not going to be counted in the payroll. >> so bernstein says the underlying economy and the jobs market are strong. he says the administration expects jobs numbers to bounce back quickly as the omicron surge increases. i thought that was interesting. the white house getting out ahead of that and explaining just by the fluke of the calendar, the peak of omicron happened exactly the week they were taking the survey numbers. if you are out of the labor market because you're one of the millions of people side lined by covid, that's going to show up. coming up, when pulling a book off the shelf in a tennessee school district backfires in a big way. and the republican senator who says he's offended by president biden's promise to pick a black woman for the supreme court but he's not offended by the big lie or overturning the election. what's really going on here? 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>> jasmine, thank you so much. let's bring in cnn political analyst and political playbook co-author rachel faye. nice to see you this morning. >> good morning. >> some republicans, some republicans decided to zero in on president biden's pledge to put the first black woman on the supreme court. let's listen to senator ted cruz and i want to ask you about it. >> the fact that he's willing to make a promise at the outset that it must be a black woman, i've got to say that's offensive. black women are 6% of the u.s. population? he's saying that 94% of americans, i don't give a damn about you. you are ineligible. it's an insult to black women. if he came and said i'm going to put the best jurist on the court, he ended up nominating a black woman, he could credibly say i'm nominating the person who's most qualified. he's not pretending to say that. he's saying if you're a white guy, tough luck. if you are a white woman, tough luck, you don't qualify. >> i don't have enough time to fact check everything that's wrong and ignorant about that. i want to ask you the strategy question here. this is so different than what we hear from others in the party like senator lindsey graham who went out of his way on cbs this weekend to praise at least one of the nominees, judge childs. so, rachel, does the gop, it seems, not have a unified strategy here when it comes to how to attack this woman? >> you hit the nail on the head right there. that's exactly it. usually when it comes to supreme court nominations it's an issue that really rallies the republican pace. their voters, they are in lock step. on this in particular republicans, you know, are on different pages. graham saying he's open to this. saying it's about time we have a court that looks like america in terms of diversity. then you have cruz trying to gin up his own outrage on the right saying why would you say you would nominate a black woman. i heard from republicans saying they do that, take the cruz route specifically that they will take -- move the narrative more towards scotus which they think will help with the mid-terms. there's also that concern. >> what are you hearing from democrats behind the scenes? are they happy? do you have some democrats shooting themselves in the foot on issues -- republicans shooting themselves in the foot on issues of race, dragging it out or do they want to get someone confirmed as quickly as possible? >> well, democrats certainly want to get someone confirmed as quickly as possible. so i think that's why you're hearing them have a little hope right now that they can actually get some republican votes for whoever this nominee is. one of my colleagues maryanne levine looked at senators and said three of them voted for joe biden's judge nominations 60% of the time. susan murcollins, lisa murkowsk and there is a circuit court judge in washington. if they need someone like her, maybe they can get some bipartisan support. then have you people like cruz who are saying you republicans aren't fighting enough so the in-fighting in the republican party is going to be something to watch in the coming weeks. >> if they do name jackson, not only do they get a scotus pick but they have a very powerful seat. rachel, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. to the culture wars now. the pulitzer prize winning novel "mouse" is back on best seller lists. after the tennessee school district pulled the book from the eighth grade list. 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>> well, what i think this event has underscored is how our legal system is ill equipped to achieve the justice the victims and the community demand. there's a tension between what justice demands, there's a desire of retribution with the state convictions we saw both of these two gentlemen and the other gentleman sentenced to life in state custody which is among the harshest penalties that exist, but at the same time there's a competing tension to call the murder of mr. arbery what it is, racially motivated murder. in order to get that there either needs to be finding of guilt of the hate crime or the defendants need to acknowledge that. the plea deal that we saw worked out would come at the expense of the retribution previous penalty that they already received. so ultimately the court will have to make that decision. will it accept this plea at the expense of that previous sentence in order to have the acknowledgment or will the government have to go to trial for this case? >> i imagine they are certainly gearing up to be prepared to go to trial as soon as next week. jared fishman, i imagine we will have you back. there are so many interesting cases in the news right now. appreciate it. >> thank you, laura. a failure of leadership and judgment. that's from a british report condemning prime minister boris johnson for a series of private staff parties while the country was under strict restrictions. selma abdelaziz is with us. >> reporter: today he'll take off and deal with ukraine. he's escaping and buying himself another day. this is a scathing report, christine. it wasn't talking about a couple of parties. it outlined 16 parties. a culture of excessive drinking, a culture of acting above the rules. a culture that ultimately disrespected the sacrifices of british families. prime minister boris johnson's response was another very meek i'm sorry in parliament, but it's really down to his own party after he was in parliament yesterday, that's where he headed, to convince his own lawmakers he's still the man for the job. he was able again to buy himself another day but it's only going to get worse for the prime minister. yesterday's report as scathing as it was, it was just a summary. we're expecting a full report in coming days. there's a police investigation looking into even more serious allegations. this is going from bad to worse for boris johnson. >> selma, thank you so much for that. first came the sour dough starters for your bread. then came tiger king and the versus battles online. now the latest pandemic craze, wordle. 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>> you know what, we've never been working as hard at buying as we have right now. it's just a show out there just trying to get these products that we need. like even chicken wings coming up for the super bowl. you know, you don't know if the shipment's going to show up or not so you order extra and you keep your finger's crossed and hope that it will be delivered. >> how long do you think this is going to last? a year ago we were in the thick of some of these empty shelves and product shortages and delays. i just got some cream cheese this week so i'm feeling confident. i don't know what's going to be the thing i'm not going to get next week. >> you know what, christine. we're recommending three things. you'll see specials every week in a store. stock up and freeze the items. we learned that during the pandemic. a lot of people were freezing. the second thing, we're seeing a big shift from the national brands to private label, in-store brands. sometimes they're made by the same manufacturer. so go for that and the other thing is that, you know, you've got plenty of sale items every week. look in the ads and get them. even though there is a pandemic, the thing about the food industry is there's always spots where some of the suppliers have to move heavy volume and they'll give you a discount on it. >> i think that's really good advice. let's be honest. this is not inflation like the 1970s or early '80s where you had one local grocery store and you didn't have all of this competition. we have a very healthy, vibrant sort of food infrastructure. be nimble is what you're saying. >> yeah, be nimble. >> go ahead. >> be nimble today. the reality is we're like your listeners. we're a company. we have seven stores up around metro new york here, but we have to buy product every day. i talk to our ranchers and our farmers, they're all telling me, to put fuel in my tractors, to put fuel in my trucks, that's going up. they're all talking about labor, how hard it is and how much it costs right now. so that has gone up. the other third thing i think that's creating some of this increase in prices is the supply chain. the demand for a lot of these food items is very high. some of the items you mentioned, you just can't make enough of them. like our ranchers out in kansas, they would love to run the packing plant six days a week right now but they are like five days a week, they tonight have enough workers. >> i think the worker shortage started with the great resignation. i think we're going to have a big conversation about immigration and the worker pipeline here is going to be the next iteration of that. stew leonard, thank you. >> one thing to do, i hear you're an expert in french also. >> how do you know about that? >> my son-in-law's from bordeaux so he is our baguette expert. we run them by him. i'm going to have you taste one of our baguettes. >> tres bien. i will. >> au revoirs. >> perfect french accent from christ tine romans. a big name in fast food wants hungry people to skip delivery. >> dominos -- >> dominos facing a shortage of workers is offering a $3 tip for the customers who order online and pick up their own pizza. the rollout coming days ahead of super bowl sunday. one of domino's biggest sales. >> you'll see them trying to a dam. i'm going to say it again. the next is an immigration policy story. everyone is saying they cannot get workers and wages are rising. that's something that ceos say they have to contend with. is tom brady ready to call it quits? the biggest question out there. the buccaneers quarterback breaks his silence over reports of his retirement. andy scholes has this morning's bleacher report. hey, andy. >> good morning. adam schefter and brad darlington reported brady is retiring after 22 amazing years of nfl seasons. the 7 time super bowl champion set the record straight on the "let's go" podcast. >> i'm still going through the process i said i would do. sometimes it takes time to evaluate how you feel. when the time is right, i'll be ready to make a decision one way or the other just like i said last week. i'm going to take it day by day. i'll take it by the moments and figure out when i feel really confident to allow people to understand how my decision affects a lot of people's lives. when that decision comes, it'll come. >> brady said last week that his decision is going to be a family call. he led the nfl in passing yards and touchdowns last season. brady turns 45 years old in august. all right. bengals, meanwhile, are in the super bowl for the first time in 33 years. kids in cincinnati are going to get to stay up late to watch it. cincinnati public schools are giving people the day off after the game. the school district tweeted in honor of the bengals first super bowl appearance since 1988, dps will not have school on the 14th. we'll have the day off to celebrate what we believe will be the first ever super bowl victory. the city hasn't had a lot to celebrate. the last time they had time to celebrate was the reds winning in 1990. the nba, steveph curry with the worst shooting day of his career. in the third quarter curry got going. he erupted for 21 points in the fourth quarter hitting multiple step-back threes. he ended with 40 points. they got the win 122-108. all the trash talk made him take it to another level. steve kirby joked he highly encourages others to trash talk curry in the future. washington football team will officially announce its new name and uniforms tomorrow, but former quarterback joe theismann who led the theme to the first super bowl victory in 19d82 may have spilled the beans early. >> the commanders is a name that, you know, is going to be hopefully one that people will talk about going forward commander basically is washington, d.c. a lot of commanders in washington, d.c., and the pentagon. a lot of different branches of the service so to me that's certainly the way i'm looking at it, as positions of leadership when it comes to the new name. >> yeah, guys. the name being commanders has kind of been the worst kept secret in sports for a little while. what do you think, washington commanders. doesn't really roll off the tongue. >> i'm used to washington football team. it's going to take me some time. >> it is better. >> i think it's an upgrade. >> i want to know real quickly, did the bengals win or the chiefs lost? what happened? >> i mean, it's being called one of the biggest collapses in championship game history, the chiefs. that play before the half, guys, where they threw it and didn't get any points after being at the 1-yard line. you go both ways. you want to make credit to teams. >> is that how you were spending your birthday, watching football? >> i live in a house. >> you're wearing a joe burrow turtleneck this morning. >> joe burrow, what a story, right? that kid -- that guy has to be the happiest guy in the world. thanks so much for joining us. nice to see you, andy. i'm christine romans. >> i'm laura jarrett. 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