significant response if a single russian force enters ukraine in an aggressive way. we've also learned of a kremlin plot that vladimir putin is planning to install a puppet government in ukraine. waiting in the wings, an estimated 100,000 russian troops already stationed at the ukrainian border. with fears of an invasion growing, president biden held a meeting with his security team at camp david this weekend. for the very latest let's go to cnn's clarissa ward in kiev, she's live there for us. clarissa, how much power does the u.s. have right now to stop what seems like a steady drumbeat for war? our top diplomats in washington are making all kinds of warnings but it doesn't sound like the message is getting across. >> reporter: well, i think at least the diplomatic process has not reached a total dead end, jim. we saw those talks in geneva between secretary of state anthony blinken and his russian counterpart seg rgey lavrov. they at least agreed to keep talking. it's hard to see where things go from here in terms of how that chasm between russian demands and nato's concerns can be breached or reconciled. there still remain huge, huge differences. all the while seeing russian aggression continuing. as you mentioned, the british foreign office has essentially released a press release, but minimal information in the press release, about a possible plot to install a pro-kremlin leader here in kiev. they gave the names of four individuals who are outside of the country who are from the former administration of victvi victovictor yanakovich. one person, reached for comment, basically dismissed the claims. secretary blinken was asked about it, here is what he had to say on the u.s. knowledge of this alleged plot, jim. take a listen. >> i can't comment on specific pieces of intelligence but, you know, we've been warning about just this kind of tactic for weeks. and we've spoken to that publicly. just last week we sanctioned four agents of russia, ukrainians in ukraine, seeking to destabilize the government. this is very much a part of the russian toolkit, it runs the gamut from incursion or invasion of ukraine to destabilizing activities in an attempt to topple the government and we need to be on notice for that possibility. >> reporter: blinken mentioned those four individuals who were sanctioned. one of those individuals is also mentioned in the british foreign office press release. of course the ukrainians are not giving a huge amount of detail but they're saying it's very important for people to understand and realize what's going on here. the russians of course, unsurprisingly, are completely denying it, calling it fake disinformation, jim. >> all right, and we've heard those kinds of subscrdescriptiod before by other leaders around the world. clarissa ward, thanks very much for that. china sent 40 war planes into taiwan's air defense identification zone today, marking the largest incursion in 2022. taiwan's defense ministry said china's war planes included fighter jets and a nuclear capable bomber. in response, taiwan deployed air missile defense systems to monitor the incursion. security has been an all hands on deck operation in washington as thousands of protesters gathered to demonstrate against covid-19 mandates. they marched from the washington monument to the lincoln memorial where some speakers blasted vaccine mandates and some blasted vaccines themselves. cnn's joe johns, what are they telling you? i worry about even asking you that question but what are they telling you so far? >> reporter: not surprising, jim, sort of the language of polarization over the pandemic. i walked down here this morning with a whole group of the people who came to the rally at the lincoln memorial. and really sort of just got a sense of what they were saying. and it's interesting, especially because this event was billed as an event about medical autonomy, if you will. in other words, the right not to get the shot, the right not to wear the mask. and as we listen to the speakers, there was that disinformation, the misinformation we sort of heard from -- since the pandemic began. but when you dig a little deeper, what we were hearing from people is that there was real concern about the way they were being received because they rejected the vaccine, also a lot of concern about the federal government, suspicion of the federal government, its handling of the vaccines, suspicion of the biden administration, even of the media and the pharmaceutical industry. so all of this is the kind of stuff we got from people today at this event. and i can also tell you, it's a little hard to sort of characterize the crowd that was here. people came from all walks of life, quite frankly. we did see a lot of former military people we talked to. we saw some teachers. we saw some people who worked in the medical field. so all of them hear today, some hope that this is the beginning of something big. and there is certainly hope in the medical establishment in washington that all of this eventually will just go away, jim. back to you. >> all right, joe johns, thank you very much for that. joining us now is dr. jonathan reinert, a cnn medical analyst, professor of medicine and surgery at george washington university. dr. reinert, down on the national mall, some of these protesters were displaying holocaust imagery, comparing vaccine policy to the holocaust, which is obviously repugnant. one of the reactions i had, dr. reinert, is many of these protesters were standing very close to where we used to see those white flags, hundreds of thousands of white flags marking in memory all of those hundreds of thousands of people we lost in this country to covid. what is your reaction to what you're seeing down on the mall today? it's disturbing. >> yeah. i mean, to say the least. the united states lost 10,000 people last week. we had 10,000 deaths in the united states last week. we've lost 860,000 people, that's three times the number of combat casualty deaths in world war ii for the united states. so, you know, to see so many people first of all denying the magnitude of this pandemic, and then, you know, turning their eyes on something that we know with clarity will almost eliminate your risk of dying is startling. and relating to somehow to what 6 million jews went through who were exterminated during the holocaust is at the very least repugnant. i just feel that this country has in many ways asked so little of people. we treasure freedom so much. any ask for any citizen in this country appears to be too much. so we're in a pandemic and we miraculously develop a vaccine in record time that is better, more effective than we could have possibly hoped. and a proportion of our country, 25% of adults in this country, simply refuse to take it. and it's some sort of i a impingement on their freedom. i never would have guessed a year ago that we would be in this position. >> i know you saw bill maher's program, journali ist barri wei says she's done on covid. >> i'm done with covid. i sprayed the pringles cans that i got from the grocery store, stripped my clothes off because i thought covid would be on my clothes. i did it all. then we're told you get the vaccine and you get back to normal. and we haven't gotten back to normal. and it's ridiculous at this point. this is going to be remembered by the younger generation as a catastrophic moral crime. >> and dr. reinert, you told barri weiss essentially she needed to grow up. >> she needed to grow up because she's acting like a child. when you say you don't want to play that game anymore, you'll take your ball and go home, you're acting like a child. i like the sacrifices she enumerated, she stripped her clothes when she got home and sprayed the grocery cans. meanwhile my colleagues in hospitals all around the country went in to care for people dying from the virus and continue to do that every day, man our ers and icus every day and for the first year of this pandemic, they did that without any protection of a vaccine. that's the sacrifice they made. and all that we've done is asked the public to wear a mask when you go out and about, and get vaccinated. so i'm glad she's done with it. but i sort of feel like this country has been in a boat that has filled with water and some of us have been trying to bail out -- bail the water out of this boat for the last two years and now we have people like barri weiss basically saying i'm done, i'm not bailing the water out anymore. and when somebody who is relatively young and relatively healthy says that, what they're saying is, i'll be okay if i get this virus, screw you, doesn't matter to me what happens to you. that's the message i get from her. >> yeah, i'm done with that attitude, honestly. she needs to understand that trolling people to own the libs is not a sacrifice. former fda commercial dr. scott gottlieb said late march is probably the soonest a covid vaccine for kids under 5 could be available. how does that time frame sound to you? and what's the message to parents of young children who want to get their young kids vaccinated and protected? >> i think the he end of march would be great. my message to parents with little kids is hang in there. it's a very difficult time. you're trying to walk the line between trying to have some normalcy in your family but protect your kids from getting sick. i understand it. we have to hang in there for just another couple of months. again, this is easier to do when we're all singing from the same page here, which is why it's so disturbing to hear people like ms. weiss say i'm done. you know, i'm not wearing a mask anymore, i'm not playing by the rules anymore. >> parents of children under the age of 5 aren't done, they have to worry about more than wiping off their pringles cans, they have to worry about their little kids who might be exposed to people like herself who will not get vaccinated or even if they are vaccinated, you know, just sort of brush off the importance of it at this point. it's just remarkable. >> right. every child under 5 in the united states is susceptible to this virus. there are a million children in the united states last week, 1 million children tested positive for this virus. and while thankfully most kids will do fine should they get infected, we've lost about 860 children to this virus. so this is not a pain-free experience for families in this country if their children get infected. and if a kid gets infected, parents can't go to work. perhaps someone more vulnerable, maybe a grandparent in the house. there are a lot of things that happen when a child gets infected. and i completely sympathize with the concerns and the angst of people with little kids in this country. but what i would say so them is help is ton the way, hang in there another couple of months. >> dr. reinert, thank you very much, we appreciate it. >> my pleasure, jim. we just learned the january 6th committee has been talking to former attorney general bill barr. bill barr was one of trump's top defenders until he refused to defend those big lies about election fraud. legendary journalist carl bernstein joins me next. no one would know better than carl bernstein what it means when a guy close to the president starts talking. tune in all this week as i host "democracy in peril" where we will delve into the dangers to our democracy, 9:00 p.m. eastern all this week on cnn. nts, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? 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>> well, yes. and we've got to know the extent of the cooperation. but he was in the position to know an awful lot about what donald trump was doing to stage a coup. and one of the things we need to say about this investigation is already we know how serious the investigation is. we know it's turned up a tremendous amount of information that not only suggests that donald trump was intent on staging a coup, it's pretty definitive at this point. we also know members of the vice president pence's staff are cooperating with the committee. a picture is already starting to emerge of a criminal, seditious president of the united states, unprecedented in our history in this country. you have to go back to the civil war to find the kind of sedition occurring at a high level in our government such as occurred on january 6th and right after the election. and think back to the sedition of the confederacy. that was led by a member of the congress, not by a president of the united states. and the fact that the republican party has not participated in this investigation, has just decided they will throw in their lot with donald trump and his criminality, tells us an awful lot about where this republican party is today and how trump has them under his lock and key. >> and carl, i do want to talk about your book, because, you know, there are a lot of lessons in there that i think would be instructive today. it's in its first week, already on the top ten of the "new york times" bestseller list, congratulations on that. it's an incredible look at your career pre-watergate. at one point you offer details on being on the dictation desk which younger viewers might not be familiar with. you were on the dictation desk as news of the kennedy assassination were coming in. you wrote, my hands were shaking, this is as you were taking dictation coming in from a reporter on the is a assassination, and i mistyped "hospital" without having time to correct it. the white house announced the president had died at 1:00 central time. kennedy had been given the last rites by one of the priests. a few seconds later the wire room bells went haywire with the flash that the president really was dead. what is it about the newsrooms about that era that we should be learning from at this point in our history? >> let me first say something about this book, "chasing history," because it's really about this kid, me, who got the best seat in the country at age 16. i went to work as a copy boy at "the washington evening star," the greatest afternoon paper in america at the time, the opposition better and a better paper than "the washington post" in those days. what this memoir is about is this five years from 1960 to '65 when huge events are happening in the nation, not just the inauguration and the election of kennedy, his assassination, which i'll talk about in a second, the civil rights movement, the passage of the voting rights act. i was able to cover as a 19-year-old kid. and think of what's happening right now in the congress of the united states, to strip away -- the republican party wants to strip away the voting rights act that was passed in 1965. so it's about this kid that gets the best seat in the country, gets to see these presidents firsthand, and write and report on all the great events in the country, really in my teenage years. and before watergate, before "the washington post." and there's not a word in this after 1965. it's not the old man looking back. it's written in the voice of the kid. and on the date of the assassination, i came down to the newsroom, i heard the news while i was in a class at the university of maryland, and the reporter was running out the door and she said to me, "he's dead." it had not been announced yet that he was dead. i said, how do you know? she said, jerry o'leary's brother who works at the cia, and o'leary was a great rewrite man at the "star," got it from his brother. i ran upstairs to the newsroom. the national editor -- because he knew i could type pretty much faster than anybody at 90 words a minute, said, bernstein,heads take david broder from dallas. i put on my headset and he started to dictate and he said, two priests walked out of dallas parkland memorial hospital and announce, comma quote, the president is dead. i misspelled "hospital," as you indicated, because my hands were shaking so bad. but right after that, i was told by the city editor to right away go up to the capitol to try and find speaker mccormick who was the speaker of the house and the next in line after the vice president lyndon johnson who had been sworn in as president or was being sworn in, and to find speaker mccormick. i was told he was hiding under his desk. i finally found him surrounded by a phalanx of capitol hill police. from there i was sent to the white house to wait for the body to come back to cover the people in lafayette square across the street who were sobbing. crowds were gathering. i covered the assassination through the weekend. it's just an example of what these wonderful people with this great newspaper let me do, even though when i went to work there, i had one foot in the pool hall, one foot in the juvenile court, and two inches of a foot in the classroom. so it's about this kid who gets this amazing seat and what he learns, which is everything that woodward and i did in watergate. you can see how in "all the president's men" we talk about the best obtainable version of the truth. it comes from what i learned at "the star." so the lines are clear. it's about what a reporter does, perseverance, knock on doors, learn to make sources, how you deal with those sources. and so it's a book about another time in america, another time in journalism. and yet those basic techniques are the reason we have seen in the trump presidency the greatest reporting on a presidency in my lifetime by the greatest number of news organizations, because that methodology, that we know about the trump presidency we know from the reporting, not from the government. >> and it's so critically important. and carl, we're so fortunate that you stayed out of that pool hall and you stayed in the newsroom and learned the craft and learned the trade, because we are all the better for it. carl bernstein, thank you so much for your time. we appreciate it. check out his great new book "chasing history: a kid in the newsroom," it's out now. carl, we'll have you back soon and we'll wax poetic even more. thanks so much for your time. >> good to be with you. >> great talking to you. still to come, a deadly weekend across the country for law enforcement. a texas deputy was killed overnight over a track stop less than two days after the deadly shooting of a new york city police officer. a live report, next. kim is now demonstrating her congestion. save it slimeball. i've upgraded to mucinex. we still have 12 hours to australia. mucinex lasts 12 hours, so i'm good. now move! kim, no! mucinex lasts 3x longer for 12 hours. welcome to silversneakers. are you ready to get moving? 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"succession" streams on hbo max which is owned by the same parent company as cnn. br brian, when the show first started, it was based on rupert murdoch but as it went on, there are nods to jeff bezos, elon musk, and the trump family. it's about entitlement. explain that to us. >> the problem is this loss of reality people have when they are entitled. there are a few exceptions, of course. but seemingly there's a kind of continuing thing of going on. we see the same in my country with prince andrew and his -- now he's asking for his teddy bears to be counted every night before he went to bed. it's just ridiculous. it really is ridiculous. these people are so spoiled by their wealth, and they lose a sense of reality and a sense of where they're coming from. and it's deeply upsetting and also very funny. >> is it the trump family that we're seeing? is it the murdoch family that we're seeing? is it a combination of a bunch of different families that the writers are having some fun with? >> well, yeah, i think they are influences, of course. but it's the roy family, really, is the principle. they are a created entity. they are a different thing. they're certainly not as stupid as the trumps, they're a little more intelligent, i think. so there's a sort of -- but, you know, there are crossovers, i can see that. and naturally audiences will make those connections. >> absolutely. and you have played some magnificent roles, folks should know, the original hannibal lecter in "hmanhunter," which i a masterpiece. you also write about the curse of brian cox. can you talk about that? >> the curse of brian cox is this thing of i've been too late to the party, in a way. you know, one of the things that's always problematic, especially where we are now, which is oscar season, oscar season kind of goes on from really -- i mean, it should be based on the year's work, but it never is based on the year's work. what it's based on is the work from thanksgiving to christmas. and if a film gets into thanksgiving and christmas, you know you have a chance but if your film comes out before then, forget it. and i've been subject to the brian cox curse, an example is "churchill," i played churchill and it all came out in june but by the time the other film came along -- but i mean, you know, that's part of what this business does and you get used to it, especially after 50 years -- actually nearly 60 years now. i'm sort of immune to it, really. >> it's been an amazing career, and so much of it is just so apparent in every page that you write in this book. i don't need to tell you, you've gotten quite a bit of press not just for the stories that you tell but the unabashed continues you give on selects. you say of steven sagal, and i had to laugh at this, he is as ludicrous in real life as he appears onscreen, he radiates a studied serenity as though he's on a higher plane than the rest of us, and although it's a different plane, it's probably not a higher one. and about johnny depp, when you come on with makeup like that, you don't have to do anything. you also give it to quentin tarantino, kevin spacey. no sacred cows in this book. >> no, no sacred cows. but i'm a bit too quick sometimes for my own good. i'll go for the laughs sometimes. there's an addendum which i put everything in perspective. when i say -- i think i said that johnny depp is overrated. i mean, i think johnny depp is a very good actor, don't get me wrong, i don't dislike his acting but he himself would probably admit he feels he's overrated. he's quite a shy personality. i do think what happens to a lot of actors, a lot of things get projected onto them which is sometimes a bit of a burden. and i suspect that that's a burden for him. i don't know the man. i don't dislike his work, i've seen some of it, it's excellent. but i do feel that's what he suffers from. >> and turning back to "succession," the season, this season we saw your character logan roy essentially picking the gop nominee for president based on the power he wields as head of a right wing media empire. if donald trump entered that fictional world, how do you think he would have fared with logan? >> how he would have fared with logan? i don't think logan would have much respect for donald trump. i think that he would think there's an element of sham about donald trump. and i think logan would see through that sham and therefore he would not take him very seriously. and certainly if he was around during his last presidency, he wouldn't take him at all seriously. so logan is not an idiot, he is quite a smart cookie. and also he straddles two cultures. he straddles a uk culture and the american culture. so he has a sense of the world which is -- he's a min misanthr, he's miserable as hell. but he's a little more intelligent than the ex-potus. >> that's apparent. brian, you made headlines for saying that your cast mate jeremy strong, quote, genuinely suffers while method acting as your son kendall roy on "succession." what is it like on the set playing these intense, dysfunctional characters for hours at a time? i can understand why you would say that about your fellow cast members, because when you're watching, it is disturbing to slip into this world. >> yeah, yeah. and i think kendall is a particularly disturbed character. and he gets more and more disturbed as the show has gone on. and i think, you know, it's very heady playing somebody like kendall. you've got to have -- and again, jeremy -- don't get me wrong, jeremy does the job, he's excellent. we get on very well. our work together is always very fine. the scene, like the scene we had, the dinner scene at the end, he's great to play with, really. but i do worry about the fact that this kind of sinking yourself into the role to such an extent, it's dangerous, you know, you've got to be careful. you've got to be very, very careful with acting. it's really interesting to me that daniel day-lewis retired at the age of 55. well, i'm 75 and i have no intention of retiring. but i think if i had lived the life that daniel had lived and done it the way he had done it, i might have retired at 55 as well, from sheer exhaustion. >> no question about it. and you see stories from time to time about actors who plunge too far into their roles and it can take a toll. we have to ask you this question, it is the billion dollar logan roy question at the heart of "succession." which child should logan roy hand the company over to? i can't imagine it being connor, but maybe shiv. what are your thoughts? >> well, i thought it was going to be shiv. i really did think for a long time it was going to be shiv. but then shiv can't keep her mouth shot. and that's one of the things you have to do, is keep everything close, you can't share too much. i also thought that roman was in with a chance but then he's got this potty mouth that gets him into -- >> yes, he does. >> maybe logan has contributed to that. >> just a touch. >> so it's very hard to say, really. >> brian cox -- >> that's what left us at the end of last season, he's wanting a successor, he would love it to be one of his own children but they keep -- it's like when he says this line which is i think a great line, in the very last epi episode, he does say make your own -- he says, do it yourself. and that's the problem with them, they're spoiled and he's partly responsible, but not wholly responsible. the situation is responsible, the wealth. >> no question about it. brian cox, thanks so much for your time, it was such an honor to have you on. and i think somebody on our crew owes me some money because i was betting we were not going to get through this interview without a little bit of that salty scottish language you're sometimes famous for. >> that's the character, that's not me. >> oh, that's the character, yes, sir, you're right. brian cox, it was a pleasure, thank you for your time. >> take care, thank you. >> and make sure you're buying this book, "putting the rabbit in the hat." head to hbo max and stream "succession." you'll look good, trust me. and we'll be right back. sore throat. .one but she had enough. she took new mucinex instasoothe sore throat lozenges. show your sore throat who's boss. new mucinex instasoothe. works in seconds, lasts for hours. your shipping manager left to “find themself.” leaving you lost. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire at vanguard, you're more than just an investor, you're an owner with access to financial advice, tools and a personalized plan that helps you build a future for those you love. vanguard. become an owner. ♪ three times the electorlytes and half the sugar. ♪ pedialyte powder packs. feel better fast. ♪ ♪ do your eyes bother you? 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