breaking news out of texas where all hostages have been rescued after a standoff at a texas synagogue. this happened at the congregation beth israel in colleyville near fort worth. the hostages held for nearly half a day after an attacker stormed into a small worship service on saturday. late saturday, cnn crews on the scene heard a loud bang and then gunfire. the attacker was killed. all remaining hostages freed. moments later, governor greg abbott tweeting out, prayers have been answered, announcing all hostages were out alive and safe. here's how a police official described what led to the rescue. >> the fbi called out the hostage rescue team, which is an elite hostage rescue force out of quantico, virginia. they immediately when the s.a.c. called, they flew out here. i think they brought 60 or 70 people from washington, d.c. to come and help with this situation. sometime around 9:00 p.m. today, this evening, the hrt, hostage rescue team, breached the synagogue. they rescued the three hostages. and the subject is deceased. >> cnn's ed lavandera was standing about half a kilometer away while the standoff was playing out. he heard that explosion and he filed this report. >> reporter: nearly 11 hours after a suspect entered the beth israel synagogue here in colleyville, texas, we have learned the suspect is dead and that all four of the hostages are alive and well. one of the hostages had been released earlier in the day around 5:00 central time. but law enforcement officials say they have identified the suspect, but they are not ready to announce who that person is as they continue their investigation into the motives behind this attack on this synagogue. it was a frightening and harrowing day for the members of this synagogue, which is a small synagogue here in colleyville, about 150 members. they were watching desperately and frantically throughout the day, waiting for and pray gorg this outcome they saw unfold here this evening. many members of the congregation we spoke with say that members had not been attending the services here at this synagogue because of covid pandemic restrictions, that it was -- most people were at home watching on the livestream, and that is where they began to see all of this unfold just before 11:00 in the morning. and they heard what was described as the ranting and raving and harrowing screaming coming from the suspect inside the synagogue. but tonight all of them celebrating the fact that four of their synagogue members are now alive and well. i want to turn to cnn's national security analyst, julia kyam, served as assistant secretary of u.s. department of homeland security security. juliette, let's talk about in your experience, we heard from the news conference that the negotiators seemed to have been the heroes of the day, according to the fbi spokesman there. and talked about how it ebbed and flowed and got intense at some times. what sorts of things, in your experience, would predicate a decision to go in? >> just going back from the beginning of the day, there was a sort of caricature of how law enforcement works, or at least professional law enforcement. they're just going to run in, everything has to be fast and resolved. the truth is that for a hostage negotiator, in most instances, because it's not an active shooter situation. those are two different situations. in a hostage situation, you're really trying to buy time. so we call it -- you're trying to extend the runway, give more time. that's essentially what happened. so why are you buying time? the hostage may give up, the -- the hostage-taker may give up, he may release a hostage as we saw earlier today. he may tire. or he may become more agitated, but even if he does that's given the fbi eight, nine hours, a lot of time to figure out how to get into the building and get the hostages out safely. those are precision operations, right? the boom, the entry, and the protection of the hostages. and a as we now know, the killing of the perpetrator. that's basically what happened behind closed doors, rightfully so. you have the continuing negotiation, the buying of a long period of time, and then the entry. what triggers it may either be -- there's only one or two. one is the hostage is exposed to vulnerability ask they're going to come in, or they've lost contact with the hostage-taker and want to get in relatively quickly. >> and we also heard they're going to be having an investigation, of course. >> yes. >> a global investigation, according to the fbi. what sorts of things are investigators going to be looking for? >> so if he was animated by the siddiqui aura, let's say, the sort of radicalization that comes from supporting siddiqui, who's a female al qaeda member, someone who is in jail in texas. so we don't know if there's a relation there, the fact that she happens to be in jail there. so was he radicalized because of just her cult-like status? or was he radicalized to do this, to sort of operationalize her anti-semitism? like you, i don't see how you separate her from the anti-semitism of targeting a synagogue. and whether -- or whether he was targeted or told to do something like this. i have to say, just based on the evidence so far and my experience, i can tell you, so he does not seem terribly sophisticated visually from what we are told by congregants. he's agitated at the beginning. he's apologizing. he's animated. he doesn't seem in control. he appears to have no exit strategy. chooses the synagogue that he claims was because it was near an airport. so there was no reason to have chosen it except for geography. so they may believe that he was both radicalized alone and acted alone. that is not to negate the radicalization that is occurring within terrorist organizations or within jihadist organizations to target synagogues globally which we're just seeing throughout the united states and the world. >> yeah, and there's a lot we're going to learn, a lot we don't know yet. but it doesn't seem massively sophisticated, as you say. a small synagogue in the suburbs, as ed lavandera was saying. it just doesn't sound like it was particularly well thought out. and i guess that points to the difficulty of stopping such things as well. >> yeah. and also to the fear. i mean, in other words, you do things in your life that you know are sort of higher-profile, right? you go to a big super bowl, there's some expectation that you might be increasing your vulnerability. but you join a small synagogue in the suburbs in texas with 100 members or families, and it's that vulnerability that terror actually sort of breeds off of. that you're not -- as a jew ish american, you're not safe anywhere. we hear this throughout the jewish community. i work with synagogues in terms of safety and security, in terms of ensuring that they are safer. and the challenge or the horror of this for the community and those i speak to, and i and my children are jewish, is synagogues are meant to be open, right? most religious institutions are. they want people of their own faith to feel welcome, but they also want people of other fates to be welcome and to understand them. so the more you are forcing synagogues or any religious entity to become hard targets, right? so there are soft targets. you're also denying them their ability to practice their faith. and i think that's what you're hearing much more eloquently than me, from members of the jewish community. but certainly from a security perspective, there's a loss of going from being a soft target to a hard target that you can't measure in security terms, right? i think that's what you're hearing today. >> yeah, great analysis. i mean, they said they were p processing the scene. what are they looking for? >> the most important thing is, who is he? what is his social media or internet access? how did he get there? how did he choose that synagogue? basically, in weird ways, such elevated events. then they become quite traditional in investigation. you're going to have the social media review, who is he in contact with, as well as family, friends, and others. throughout the day there was speculation about who he was and his relationship to siddiqui. in other words, we don't know anything yet. remember, she -- it's hard to explain her status in radicalization circles. because she's both a woman, there's so few women, she's an educated woman, she's viewed, siddiqui, the woman who is jailed in texas who this perpetrator alleges he wanted her free, she is viewed as being unfairly or not accurately convicted and has become sort of a galvanizing force for a lot of the radical elements within -- not within islam, but within violent islam, that would do something like this. >> great analysis, juliette. thanks so much, my friend, i appreciate it. >> good night. will tennis star novak djokovic be allowed to stay in australia? 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any indicator when the decision might be handed down? >> we believe it will be today. that's the assurance we have, there will be a decision today. they'll get at least partial information, topline information on basically whether djokovic has won or lost his challenge to this ruling. and then we'll also maybe get some very vague detail about which of the grounds by which they were challenging it was granted. we are not planning to get more details, more thorough reasoning, maybe a published statement from the courts tomorrow. the courts have been accommodating to the tennis timeline, rushing things through friday, saturday, sunday schedules. djokovic is slated to play monday. scheduled now for the second night match on monday at rod laver arena. the court is making it clear they're amenable? he's going to be able to play, they want him to be able to play. >> yeah, i mean -- when you think about it, and we've talked about this a lot over the last week or so, the concerns that -- trying to imagine, after all of this, djokovic walks out on center court. his first appearance. what kind of reception might he get? >> it's going to be heated. it's going to be a volatile, heated, fractious atmosphere. he has a ton of supporters here who will show up in big numbers here. there's a large serbian community in australia. he's touched a nerve with certain other segments of society as well. the serbian community has been loyal behind him and would turn out for sure. trying to counterbalance what would be a great deal of anger and resentment from the general australian population. 14% said they wanted him to stay and play. the australian contingent is not for him to compete, but it's going to be the judges who ultimately have the say whether or not he can. >> when it comes to the politics of this, politics are always in play, and there is an election not too far off in australia. it could be argued that the government's actions, both the confusion over the visa and the subsequent court actions, have fired things up as well. >> yeah, they really have changed their argument considerably from the first round of appeals when it was all about the paperwork that djokovic had. the right kind of exemption. was he ticking the right boxes? the grounds they're arguing are now ideological that djokovic could be a corrosive influence in society, his anti-vax views could in some ways spur the anti-vax movement to greater attraction among the community. anti-vax is not especially common in australia, especially compared to america, let's say, but it is a austsmall, strong community that's embraced djokovic as an icon. those are the arguments the government was making that this guy's influence here as a champion really could sow a lot of support for this movement that they don't want to get support, they want it to be as small as possible in order for public health to remain as successful as it's been on the vaccination front so far in australia. >> great to see you, ben. appreciate your reporting on all of this. we'll check back in with you when we get that decision. let's talk more about novak djokovic, the saga. let's bring in cnn sports patrick snell. good to see you. i'm curious, we have the order of play for monday. novak is playing a countryman. what happens to the draw if instead of walking onto center court, he's on his way to the airport? >> great question, michael. yeah, absolutely, we now know the order of play for monday. just to reset for our viewers, novak djokovic, if he does get to compete, will be taking on his compatriot, a young serbian player who's grown up idolizing djokovic. that should be a fascinating encounter if it goes ahead. to your question, at this point, now that we have that order of play, no seeded players would be moved. so what does that mean? it means that lucky loser from qualifying, a really lucky loser from qualifying, right, would get the chance to step up and go into the draw. so that would be the scenario there. but i tell you what, we are still waiting at this hour to find out exactly how this is all going to play. to reset, pick up what ben said a little earlier, this is going to be taking center stage. it's going to be a cauldron of passion on rod laver arena monday evening, the prime time billing. the homegrown favorite, ashley barty, trying to win the australian open. those fans there will be willing her on. then after that, the second match on after 7:00 p.m. on the rod laver arena, is going to be all eyes on novak djokovic, if he does get to play. >> yeah, that's -- yeah, exactly. just the way you talk about it, i'm excited. you have interviewed djokovic over the years. he's not the most popular guy around. what's your take on him, what's he like? >> he's up against -- when it comes to the popularity stakes, if you like, the much-loved, the dearly-loved rafe nadal and roger federer and he's been up against that over the years. he's come from nowhere in terms of winning grand slam titles, he's got himself right up there alongside them on 20. they're all fascinatingly poised on 20. i found him person to able, ver generous with his time, very passionate, very drive. we spoke about other topics as well. passionate about football, european football as well. he's just good with his time. and no topic was off limits in the brief amount of time i had with him. he was certainly very, very honest with his answers. but as i say, there is so much scrutiny on him right now. i mentioned that being driven and it all goes back to his childhood, michael. growing up in the war-torn region of former yugoslavia. there's video that comes to mind from when he must have been 9 or 10, 11 years old. and he was asked a career goal. give me a career goal. his response even at that age, michael, "i one day want to be world number one." talk about knowing what you want. totally dedicated. a steely focus. as i said earlier, a player who absolutely thrives on adversity. but yeah, personable and generous with his time, and he followed me back on twitter as well. >> he did not. >> he did. >> he did? i follow you on twitter. >> i know, i'm honored. >> that's pretty cool. the other thing too, everybody's sort of all up in arms about australia, the vaccination rules, all this sort of stuff. australia's not the only place with vaccination rules. he's got to go play atp matches in the u.s., vaccination is mandated for nonresidents there. what's he going to do? >> yeah, this is going to be the big talker. however this plays out, whatever happens down under in australia, it's going to be what happens moving forward. because as you know, he's driven to get number 21, to be the most-decorated and successful men's tennis player of all time. to forge ahead amidst nadal and federer. but he's going to have his work cut out because the world is changing all the time with respect to the global pandemic. now as it stands, we believe he should be able to play. as it stands at the french open at roland garros, where he could go for number 21, although he would as the stands for an unvaccinated player have to follow special protocols, health-related protocols, as a result of being unvaccinated. we don't know about wimbledon either. the u.s. open, we all know there they are strict, in new york city, restrictions on indoor events. the roof comes on, that would come into play. that would become another fascinating scenario. and regular tour events coming to the u.s. as well. he's going to have to reschedule his playing months ahead, depending on how this all pans out. he's going to ask himself some very serious questions about moving forward swell. >> he certainly does. patrick snell, great to have your analysis, big ten necessary lover. good to see you. local and federal law enforcement are being praised for saturday's hostage rescue in texas. coming up, former cia operative bob baer explains why it's so difficult to predict these attacks and to get everyone out alive. we're getting destroyed out there. we need a plan! i have a plan... right now at t-mobile customers on magenta max can get the new iphone 13 ant-mobile will pay for it! upgrade to the iphone 13 on us. we're carvana, the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100% online. now we've created a brand-new way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. how did panera come up with the idea to combine their famous mac and cheese with their iconic grilled cheese? 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later before law enforcement decided they had to go in in order to save the others. cnn crews on the scene heard a loud bang and then gunfire. minutes later, governor greg abbott tweeting, prayers have been answered and all hostages were out. president joe biden also praising law enforcement for a job well done, saying he's grateful everyone is safe. bob baer is a cnn intelligence and security analyst. he joins me now from telluride in colorado. he's also a former cia operative and author of the book "the perfect kill: 21 laws for assassins." bob, first of all, in your experience, what sort of things would have triggered the hostage rescue team to go in when they did? who makes that call, and what would have precipitated it? >> well, the negotiators would have, an s.a.c. on the ground there. it's not something you defer to washington. i think what they realized probably fairly early on is who this guy was. he was unstable. let's not forget the fbi would prefer not to kill anybody, because a hostage rescue can never be 100% assured. you just don't know what's going on. the hostages could be moved at the last second before they go in. if they're using flashbang grenades, if he's moved to a different room, he hasn't been stunned, he could kill all the hostages, which is the last thing the s.w.a.t. teams want. so i think they were probably getting very nervous toward the end. and they could have outwaited this guy until he -- amazing as it sounds, till he fell asleep. but they decided he was so unstable that they had to go in and use weapons. >> we heard the fbi say it's very likely the situation would have ended badly if not for the skills of negotiators. speak about their role. they were on the phone with this guy for hours. and according to the fbi, it was high frequency in duration, it stopped from time to time. the relationship ebbed and flowed, was intense at times. what are these negotiators trying to do? >> they want to know what he wants, first of all. if he wants siddiqui released -- we don't know that for sure -- the hostage negotiator's going to say, well, you know, what's going to happen if we do? what will happen to her? they'll carry this on so there's some hope in his mind so he doesn't start shooting the hostages. they practice this so much, do it so well. that's sort of what they devote their careers to is talking to people on the phone who were -- >> it's a career, isn't it? >> yeah, they're just -- it's the same way with the shooters. the assaulters go in. it's an amazing amount of training they go through to act quickly. because when you're firing assault weapons in a closed-in area, the chances of hitting a hostage, unless you're very well trained, are very high, and they know that. >> yeah, it's a specialist job. the other thing he said was -- they'll be investigating his contexts -- said it's going to be a global effort. how do you see that playing out? what are they going to be looking for? >> well, it's the international calls, first of all. they're going to be getting into his facebook. earlier i said there's probably no sign that he was violent on facebook. but since then people have told me, there's probably we'll come up with something, but let's not forget facebook is a fire hose. he may have a record on social media. but what they really want to look is if he were recruited by somebody overseas. so the first thing they're going to do is look at international calls to pakistan. if, in fact -- we absolutely don't know for sure that he was a radical islamist at this point. they're going to look into that. and who does he follow? is it somebody in afghanistan, central asia? we don't know at this point. was he encouraged to attack this synagogue? that's what they're looking for. >> it's interesting. when you look at it, a small synagogue in a suburb, in a quiet part of town or city in texas. it doesn't seem terribly well organized, does it? what were your thoughts on that? did you get that sense? the other thing too when it comes to someone like this, looking into his facebook or whatever, how hard is it to actually i.d. someone before they do something? >> it's very hard. because there's so many crazy people on the internet, michael. it's amazing. and you know, you're just going through them all the time. you run these people down, it turns out they're sort of harmless. and you know, unless this guy has committed an act of violence in the past, it's not something they can put together at the last minute. and especially if he did it spur of the moment. you're absolutely right, it was not well organized. it was -- i wouldn't be surprised if he's from somewhere in that area. i doubt that he traveled there, you know, when he could have hit another target. so he wakes up one morning saying, this is a great act of justice, i've got to do it now. but of course, you know, there's something wrong in his head. >> yeah. bob baer, always good to have your expertise in 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least at the surface of the earth. but the origins of the air mass where this moisture is being drawn in -- the gulf of mexico to our south -- means that warm air is invecting into the southeastern portions of u.s. at the middle levels of the atmosphere. this complicates things for meteorologists and for people who live within this area. because it is setting up the potential for a crippling ice storm across the southeast. that is why the national weather service has ice storm warnings across the interior of south and north carolina, winter storm warnings blanketing much of the mid-atlantic, into new england as well. but i want to focus on the southeast because this is where things are going to get very dicey overnight, into sunday morning. the potential for .75 to 1 inches of ice accumulation on roadways, on tree limbs, on power lines. you take winds that will gust over 40, 50 miles per hour, that is a recipe for disaster. power outages will be widespread across this area as the storm continues to blanket the region. high wind warnings in effect as the storm traverses the east coast. enough of that warm air will enter the i-95 corridor, so i think this will be mainly rain for the major metropolitans, new york city to boston. maybe a few flakes mixing in. across the piedmonts and appalachians, heavy snow, ice. northern new england, snow will blanket update new york, central pennsylvania, upwards of a foot or more for many locations. this is going to be a dangerous end to the weekend and early parts of your monday. good thing we have a public holiday so not many people traversing the roadways compared to normal. >> i will be. thanks for that. >> fair enough, good point. >> as you well know, i email you a lot at times like this. appreciate it, thank you, derek van dam. all right, new zealand's prime minister says tsunami waves from an underwater volcanic eruption made a significant impact on tonga. waves crashed ashore on saturday, flooding coastal areas, damaging 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niosh-approved -- >> we interrupt now to take you to the australian federal court, set to announce its decision on novak djokovic, let's listen. >> in the notation as to contempt in order 3, that that order that is order 2 is revoked for purpose of making these orders and for what follows. the court is in a position to make orders which are unanimous. the court is not in a position to deliver reasons today but will make every attempt to deliver written reasons as soon as possible in the coming days. given the interest and coverage of this dispute between mr. djokovic and the ministers of the executive government and the interest and coverage in different parts of the world including mr. djokovic's home country of serbia, the court considers it appropriate to make clear a number of matters about the process that has taken place. first, this is not an appeal against the decision of the executive government. it is an application to the court as a separate arm of government being the commonwealth judicial branch to review the decision of a member of the executive, the minister, for the lawfulness or legality of the decision on the three ground put forward. these grounds focused on whether the decision was for different reasons irrational or legally unreasonable. it is no part of the function of the court to decide upon the merits or wisdom of the decision. the orders of the court are, one, the amended application be dismissed with costs. such costs to be agreed, or failing agreement, assist. two, reasons to be published at a later date. those are the orders of the court. the court does -- the court notes this is not part of the orders, notes that some orders were made by the federal circuit and family court of australia earlier. the court does not consider and is not aware of the need for any further orders. but the court will adjourn for up to 30 minutes to allow the parties to consider whether any further order is necessary. the court does not suggest that it is. if either party thinks that some further order is necessary, there is to be a joint communication from the solicitors of both sides to my chambers, that is the chambers of the chief justice, as soon as possible. if no further order is required, the court would be grateful for notice of that to my chambers as soon as possible. it goes without saying if counsel can tell the court now that no further order is necessary, i invite counsel to do so. are you able to indicate now? >> i think the answer is no, but we have an option for a brief we'll take that. >> very well. the court will adjourn as i indicated and grateful for that communication as soon as possible. mr. wood, rather than do this on the fly i think we'll adjourn. and if you have -- communicate or solicitors communicate and identify if there's a need for any orders. court will adjourn. >> all right, let's bring in cnn's phil black who is live in melbourne for us. phil, i'm no lawyer. the words i heard that stuck out "application dismissed." >> reporter: yeah, amended application dismissed, michael. that means novack djokovic has lost. his visa cancellation stands. he'll not be allowed to play in the australian open. that's what that means. his appeal to this court today although you heard the judge say technically it's not an appeal, what they call judicial review. what he wants is the minister decision to cancel his vote visa to be overturned, the court has ruled that will not happen. as you heard the judge explaining there this is not about the merits of the decision in the first place. this is just considering the nature of that decision in line with australian law on the grounds that were argued by djokovic's lawyers. the three judges hearing this court were not convinced by those arguments. it was a unanimous decision. novack djokovic does not -- still does not have a visa to remain lawfully in australia. that means he'll remain in mandatory detention. that means he'll be removed from the country at a time to be determined by australian authorities, the border force and so forth. so the clear headline there is novack djokovic remains in dete detention and will not be participating in the australian open. >> how quickly do these things move? presumably very quickly in terms of his departure. >> i think potentially they could move quite quickly. we don't have a full briefing yet on the precise bureaucratic steps that have take to take place between this moment and his eventual departure on a plane. at some point it will have to be a plane scheduled to get him to where he needs to go. that is either back to spain where he departed from or back to his homeland of serbia. for the moment, though, he remains in his lawyer's office here where we are standing. this is where he's been watching -- observing these proceedings as it unfolded. it is where he waited as the judges considered their decision through the course of the afternoon local time here in melbourne. so we wait to see what happens next. what it means is he remains in custody, technically. there are border force officials here keeping an eye on him while he's been dealing with his lawyers, sitting on proceedings and so forth. if they can't get him on a plane quickly that means he goes back to the detention center that he spent last night, that he was staying in last week before the initial cancellation was overturned. but it means as i say that he will be leaving the country you would think relatively quickly. there is no avenue of appeal here, no legal mechanism that would allow him to take this further within a time frame that could still see him potentially play in the australian open. so his motivation for fighting this essentially disappears. there's no reason for him to continue staying in circumstances that are not of his choosing in detention. so you would probably think it's in his best interest, his own personal motivation at this point to get out of australia as quickly as he can. >> yeah, the australian government works very hard i think it's fair to say to have him removed, and it's the government that has always wanted -- and taken a tough line when it comes to immigration. how much did politics play into this? the government was going to look bad if he played. >> reporter: yeah. the government risked humiliation here by pursuing this. and the analysis from many experts and close observers of australian politics is that the clout of politics hung over his whole affair from the very moment the australian prime minister first started talking about the need for novack djokovic to prove he had the right to enter the country and he would be treated just like everybody else. and if he couldn't prove he had a valid reason for vaccination exemption he'd be on the next plane home. certainly it's been quite a saga and passage of time between the prime minister scott morrison initially making those comments at the time novack djokovic was stopped at the border back on january 5th. and between that point and now eventually achieving this resolution in the case, if you like. it has gone a long way. but the government having coming out so strongly initially essentially had backed itself into a corner. it was an embarrassment when it lost the first court case that djokovic mounted when the first cancellation was overturned. the immigration minister who then had the personal powers to cancel it again certainly took his time considering what to do next. it was around four days or so before he confirmed that he would be canceling it the second time. and i think the accepted analysis of that passage of time was that the government was being very careful, was being very cautious, was being very thorough in considering precisely what grounds it would use, what justification, what reasoning the minister would use to cancel the visa, knowing that novack djokovic was clearly determined and