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primetime hear,s they hope will provide a definitive narrative of what led to the chaos on that day. >> what occurred on january 6th played out in full view of the american public and the world. and we want to make sure that that never, ever happens again. so we need to get it right. >> reporter: meanwhile, republicans continue to try and undermine their work. house minority leader kevin mccarthy, who could still be called before the committee, penned a lengthy letter to his colleagues saying the focus should be on the security lapses that led to january 6th. unfortunately one year later, the major hit party seems no closer to answering the central question of how the capitol was left so unprepared and what must be done to ensure it never happens again. instead, they are lusing it as political weapon to further divide our country, mccarthy wrote. without making any mention of the mob of angry trump supporters fueled by the big lie about the 2020 election being stolen. meanwhile, plans are in place to remember what took place one year ago. president biden plans to deliver remarks and house speaker nancy pelosi is hosting a series of events, including members of congress sharing their experiences from that day and a candlelight vigil on the capitol steps on the even of january 6th. the january 6th select committee is concerned about those security lapses and do plan to offer some recommendations, but it's the capitol police force right now that is having a difficult time recovering from the january 6th riots. the capitol police chief tom major saying they have plugged a lot of the holes they found from what happened on january 6th. but their biggest problem right now is finding physical officers to join the force. right now he says their force is down 400 people that they need to be fully staffed in order to protect the capitol. jake? >> ryan nobles, thank you. let's discuss with our panel. s.e. cupp, it seems republican congresswoman liz cheney is inching closer and closer to accusing former president trump of a crime. she mentioned dereliction of duty on sunday. carrie cordero told us in the last hour that's a hard legal case to make. it's more likely trump might get an obstruction charge. what are the political ramifications for republicans if trump is ultimately charged with a crime related to january 6th? >> oh, i think they're huge but i think they're already huge. and i don't think you need a crime for there to be, you know, some real hard lessons down the line. whether they come in time for 2022, i don't know, but i think republicans will be punished for this in the long term for not only allowing and encouraging what happened on january 6th but also then lying about why and how it happened in the months, in fact, year after. and seemingly having learned no lessons about it. in fact, many talk about, you know, overturning elections again. and so i don't think you need criminal charges against donald trump for there to be some real serious consequences here. >> bakari sellers, let me ask you, if republican congressmen are part of this, are compliceit in what happened on january 6th, in so many ways and if donald trump was the one who led the charge, why are we not expecting there to be any voter recriminations this november. we're all pretty much expecting that republicans are going to take the house back, maybe even the senate back and there really isn't going to be any political blowback. >> i mean, that's a good question. and i think part of it has to be the fact that over the next weeks, it really can't be months because we're already in 2022, this committee outside of liz cheney, really needs to get their messaging together about what exactly happened and about what that means. and how you prevent it from happening again. that's the most important thing because, right now, in the list of things that the american public are worried about, i mean, it's covid number one, i'm sure. there are concerns about inflation, and all the days that go by this drops further and further down the radar. i'm sure that many people want to remember this, remember the lives lost on the 6th, but the question, it begs itself, what happens on the seventh? what is the messaging going forward about how you're going to hold these individuals accountable and how you're going to prevent this from happening again. >> s.e., if i came out right now and said donald trump bears responsibility for the attack on congress by mob rioters, i would be denounced, i think, by people at other networks and right-wing media. but you know who said that? house minority leader kevin mccarthy a year ago this week. take a listen. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. >> he directly blamed the mob rioters on donald trump a year ago, and this week, he doesn't even mention trump's name when talking about the january 6th attack. >> yeah, i mean, it shouldn't surprise anyone that in the moment, you know, it was very clear what had happened and how it happened. you know, the -- connecting the dots was very obvious and, of course, in the following months and over the course of investigations we have more details, but it wasn't unclear what happened that day. what changed is politics. you know, kevin mccarthy and the republican party decided they could not hang this on donald trump and still keep his affection and his voters. and so they had to go along with his lies about what happened that day and again what happened on election day. it's perverse and perverted, but, you know, we all know what happened that day, and i don't expect anything that donald trump says this january 6th or going forward to change the facts of history. it was clear. >> and bakari sellers, we had reporting from jamie gangel a few minutes ago saying that there are republicans on capitol hill who think that kevin mccarthy's decision to pull all of the republicans that he wanted to put on the committee, to pull them off entirely, that that was unwise. he did that because nancy pelosi didn't want to put two of them on the committee. one of them, jim jordan, is probably going to be a witness. and anyway, there are a lot of republicans who think that was really unwise because you mccarthy has no visible hit into what's going on. he doesn't have any allies to push back or leak and keep him informed as to what's going on. >> as much as i talked about the messaging of the democrats and liz cheney coming out of this committee, the fact is, there's no messaging that will have any credibility pushing back against them. and a lot of times you know this better than i, jake, you have minority reports developed from these committees. in this case you'll not have that. again, it goes to the fact that we know that nancy pelosi versus kevin mccarthy is not really a fair chess match. in terms of their leadership tactics. she's run circles around him even on this. but the fact remains this committee has to come out with something strong, sound messaging and preventing this from happening again or else it's going to get drowned out by covid. get drowned out by inflation. it's going to be get drowned out by the problems of today. >> we should also note after all the lies, of course, a number of states had bogus audits. arizona, pennsylvania, the texas secretary of state's office recently released a progress report on its so-called full forensic audit of the 2020 election results. four densely populated texas counties. and the report found very few discrepancies between the electronic and manual hand counts of ballots. 17 in collin county, 10 in dallas county, harris in county, zero in tarrant county. data entry areas, curbside voters not having electric and paper copy of their vote. s.e. cupp, perhaps not surprisingly the texas attorney general's office released this friday night, new year's eve. talk about burying a story. >> it's inconvenient for the conspiracy theorists in the republican party. but i think the untold story in all of this is the waste, the actual taxpayer waste that these phony audits and, you know, election fraud nonstories are costing americans. that should be important to conservatives and republicans. should be important to everyone. but the waste of resources and money and time and people, not to mention the things we do talk about all the time which is that this is turning people into conspiracy theorists who no longer trust that elections are real. but also just the waste. and every time one of these pops up and reveals there wasn't significant fraud or fraud at all, i just think how long are we going to keep wasting time and money on this? >> thanks to both of you. appreciate it. happy new year. coming up -- new today, the fda says a new group of americans can get pfizer boosters. and sooner than previously recommended. what that could mean for the return to classrooms. plus, with much of the biden agenda on the line, top democrats want to shift to another high priority promise. we'll explain, ahead. ♪ what a wonderful world ♪ why choose proven quality sleep from sleep number? because every great play starts the night before. my sleep number 360 smart bed tracks my circadian rhythm, average heart rate, and breathing rate so i know how well i'm sleeping. it's also temperature balancing so i stay cool. and it senses my movement and automatically adjusts to help keep me comfortable all night. sleep number takes care of the science so i can focus on other things. the sleep number 360 smart bed is on sale now. only from sleep number. i don't just play someone brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger. in our health lead, right now the peak of 3,000 children are hospitalized with coronavirus. that is the largest number of the entire pandemic when it comes to children in the u.s. as the new year kicks off and schools reopen their doors today. cnn's senior national correspondent miguel marquez went to the country's biggest children's hospital where they just surpassed the summer delta surge of covid hospitalizations and doctors say most of the kids are unvaccinated. >> reporter: 4-month-old grayson perry, his tiny belly rapidly expanding and contracting. one of many children here with covid-19. struggling to breathe. >> are you afraid they'll have to intubate him? >> yeah. a little bit. it's just really scary. so i just hope that, you know, he's able to get better and go home. >> reporter: mom to three, seems her youngest picked up the virus at a family christmas gathering. her only job now, keeping her son in good spirits. >> i do talk to him in a little baby voice. i sing to him. i can't sing, but he likes it. >> one of nearly 70 children now hospitalized at texas children's. a new record high for the nation's largest pediatric hospital. in just the last two weeks, hospitalizations here have increased more than fourfold. most unvaccinated or not eligible for vaccines from toddlers to teens. >> our covid journey began -- we began november 29th. me and my daughter both tested positive for covid. >> amy woodruff's daughter, her 17th birthday the day we visited has been intubated in an induced coma for nearly a month. she also gave birth nearly three weeks ago. she knows none of it. >> she had a c-section in amarillo on december 9th. to a beautiful little baby girl, 3 pounds, 6 ounces. >> she has not seen yet. >> she has not seen. and she was covid negative, praise jesus. >> reporter: from texas, she was moved to amarillo, then houston for advanced care. still unaware her 3-week-old daughter is 900 miles away in an amarillo newborn intensive care unit. >> what will you tell her when you can speak to her? >> i don't even want to think about it. that's my little girl being away from her little girl. my heart bleeds for her. >> reporter: the omicron variant now ripping through the lone star state. texas children's preparing for even more sick kids as covid-19 cases skyrocket. >> what is your sense for what the next few weeks are going to hold? >> i think the bar for resilience just keeps moving. you think that i don't know how we can do this again and then we keep doing it again. >> as texas children's readies for a fourth coronavirus wave. already its er is seeing a spike in kids suffering mild symptoms. their parents seeking testing, bogging down triage for the seriously ill. >> we're seeing a lot of patients present with mild respiratory symptoms, cough, congestion, fever, known covid exposures that a lot of them are really seeking testing. >> like previous waves, the sickest kids, those needing hospitalization, are having a tough time breathing. >> so they're getting a lot of respiratory symptoms as we've been expecting. pneumonia, needing respiratory support to help them breathe better. >> reporter: viral spread expected to intensify in the weeks ahead and even if the omicron variant isn't as severe -- >> the problem is that with so many children and adults infected, even if the percent -- percent hospitalization rate is lower, we're still could see more children hospitalized. >> over a very short period of time. so that certainly puts a strain on our health care resources. >> about one-third of the children at texas children's hospital are under 5. those are the most vulnerable, still unable to get vaccinated at all. and maybe what's most disturbing here is that we're nowhere near the end of this thing. they think the next couple of weeks, mid-january into february will be the worst. texas schools go gak into session tomorrow and keep in mind in places like texas where the government has banned mask mandates in schools, parents are going to have to be very, very careful. >> miguel marquez, thanks. joining susdr. peter hotez, the chair of tropical pediatrics at texas children's hospital and co-director of the center for vaccine development. dr. hotez, you saw miguel's piece from texas children's with those heartbreaking stories from your colleagues about patients there. how are hospital staff dealing with this wave that's hitting kids so especially hard? >> yeah, well, we got a hint of it over the summer with delta, which was more transmissible than previous lineages but this is by far, the king of transmissible covid viruses. so we're seeing unprecedented nu numbers of kids getting infected and going into children's hospitals. i don't think this virus is selectively targeting children. what's happening is we're seeing unfold across the country a virus firestorm, a virus blizzard and so many kids are getting swept up in it. what we tend to see are -- they come in two flavors. kids admitted for other reasons who are found on routine testing upon admission to be positive. but also kids who are getting sick from covid. so this narrative that it's just a mild virus is not accurate. also we have the additional problem that hospitals across the country know so many health care providers, nurses, icu staff, physicians are getting knocked out of the workforce because they have covid and they're at home. so that creates the dangerous situation on top of it. and we've just done a terrible job vaccinating our kids across the country. in the southern part of the u.s. among the adolescents 12 to 17-year-olds, the rates are about half of what they are in the northeast. sometimes as low as 30 to 40%. and little kids, parents have been really slow to adopt vaccinating the kids 5 and up. so that creates that add vulnerability. so even though there's a lot of happy talk about the omicron variant, less severe disease. all the factors that i've just talked, about we've got a very serious situation facing us in this country, especially for the kids. >> the fda greenlit the pfizer booster. a third shot for 12 to 15-year-olds. and pfizer boosters for kids 5 to 11 if they are immunocompromised. right now almost 86% of adults in the u.s., 18 and over, have at least one shot. compare that to only 61% of 12 to 15-year-olds. only 24% of 5 to 11-year-olds. why is it still so low for kids? is it just parents are afraid of what the vaccine will do? >> well, i think in the southern part of the united states, where the adolescent vaccination rates are about half what you are seeing is there's a lot of negative press around these vaccines. in terms of coming from even members of congress and some of the red states here that are working to discredit vaccines. and so that's working against us. and the same parents who have adolescents that they're not vaccinating, well, guess what? those adlents have younger brothers and sisters and they're not vaccinating them either. so we've got this kind of spiraling situation so we need to step up our vaccine advocacy for little kids. too much of a narrative out there that says kids do really fine with this. don't worry about it. and we haven't even spoken jake about the long covid symptoms that we're seeing in kids. so a hospital in the uk has done an impressive study to show roughly 1 in 7 kids in london are growing up to develop long covid symptoms. we don't know what that means for their neurodevelopment. we're seeing gray matter brain degeneration, cognitive declines. we don't know if that's going to be a situation in kids. this can haunt us for a long time and the u.s. needs to advocate better but bring up this situation and doing some neurodevelopmental testing in these kids before and after their covid. >> health experts keep saying with better ventilation, masking, testing and vaccines, kids should be in school. that the academic, psychological and emotional damage done during remote learning was too substantial and there are ways to safely go back to school. students in milwaukee, atlanta and cleveland, however, are going back to school remotely this week. the cdc keeps saying, kids should be in person. listen to what one mom told cnn's gabe cohen. >> every time we talks about school, he gets anxiety. worried about omicron. worried about courses. worried about social life. it's a lot for a 16-year-old to handle. >> there are going to be some very long-lasting effects on this generation of kids from all of this stress, especially the damage from remote learning where so many kids slip through the cracks. >> yeah, and right before the holidays, jake. dr. murthy, the surgeon general, issued a very timely report on the mental health aspects of covid-19. but here's the other piece to this. all of the ways that we've been keeping kids safe over the last two years, omicron is a different animal in terms of how transmissible it is. so it's really unclear how well this is going to go for the first few weeks. so it's a very tough call for school administrators. i have a lot of sympathy and empathy for them making the call either to stay virtual for a couple more weeks or holding the line and doing in person now. >> dr. hotez, thanks so much. it was supposed to be part of president biden's legislative legacy. and critical for democratic prospects in the midterm elections. will democrats be able to pass the build back better act? 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>> a big question is whether or not he's giving him his blessing when it comes to changing those rules. we know the president has said if he gets legislation to his desk on voting rights he'll sign it. that doesn't seem like a likely path forward at this time right now given republicans have rejected any efforts to pass that over the last several months. so when it comes to changing the senate rules, though, the president did say before the holiday break that he could be open to fundamental changes to those rules. and when it came to a carve out of the filibuster that would mean changing it for one issue or something along those lines. the president views that as a last resort type measure but they very well may be in that last resort type place because senator schumer sending this letter today, bluntly worded letter talking about how they'll be voting on changes to the senate rules by january 17th. there's been no movement on legislation, which seems really unlikely right now, jake. and in this letter from the democratic senate majority leader it's worth reading in full but he did say in part, quote, we must ask ourselves if the right to vote is the cornerstone of our democracy, then how can we in good conscience allow for a situation in which the republican party can debate and pass voter suppression laws at the state level with only a simple majority vote but not allow the united states senate to do the same? and so, of course, that would mean chairjing those rules where they don't need those republican votes in order to get something passed on voting rights. that's been the big irritation for democrats over the last several months, jake. when it comes to changing those rules, they would need senator joe manchin and senator kyrsten sinema on board to do so. that's something they've not been interested in in the past. so they've been having meetings behind the scenes about this. whether they can actually get there, get them on board, remains to be seen. that's a big question in this going forward that you'll be looking at over the next two weeks, jake. >> kaitlan collins, thanks. let's bring in debbie dingell of michigan. congresswoman, happy new year. we're now in 2022, for those counting. 10 months, 5 days until the midterm elections. on a scale of 1 to 10, how likely do you see it for biden's build back better agenda passing the senate this year? >> i think that we're going to get something. i would put it in the 7 to 8 category. i think it was very clear that there were conversations that didn't need to play out in public over the holidays. there are too many important things in build back better. part of the problem is, everybody knows the words build back better and they don't know what's in it. they don't know that you're trying to lower the cost of prescription drugs. they don't know that employers who are desperate to hire people that employees can't get child care. they don't know what's in there about helping the supply chain. so we've got to do a better job talking about what's in it, but it is my hope that people have had a good holiday. they've taken deep breaths and we'll come back and go to the table and get it done. >> let's talk about some of the items in the build back better act. they include universal and free pre-k. rebates and tax credits to try to help combat climate change. as you noted, lower prescription drug prices. extension on the child tax credit. that's a provision senator joe manchin says he has issues with. would you support the senate making this bill smaller so that manchin would support it? >> you know, i'm not going to negotiate in public. he has said that he's for the child tax credit but thinks it should be different so let's see what happens in the negotiations. i'm going to tell you something, jake. i was on the phone today with one of the ceos in the auto industry. and we are behind as a country keeping up with europe. and asia in terms of advanced technology. we can't afford not to get this done because -- he told me that even our neighbor canada is beating us and -- these companies are building battery plants there. i don't want those companies going to canada or europe or to china or korea. we've got to get this bill done and keep the jobs here. >> today the senate majority leader chuck schumer, democrat of new york, put election reform on the priority list. he wants to debate senate rules in the next two weeks. theoretically getting rid of the filibuster for this vote. it's an issue democrats campaigned on, election reform, voting rights, promised action. is that going to happen? are manchin and sinema going to be on board that change? >> i don't know what's going to happen. i'm a traditionalist. i think that our constitution has held up for a couple of centuries, but i also know that what i'm seeing happening in our states, where we are seeing people trying to undermine people's confidence in their vote, trying to not get people not to believe that their votes are being counted honorably and with integrity and accurately and now trying to destroy all kinds of people from not being able to vote. yes, african americans and people of color, but so are seniors. we have legislation in michigan that would make it hard for people who voted absentee after they turn 65, their vote won't count unless they can figure out how to get to the office and show their i.d. that's not right. every single person can participate, we maximize -- and don't diminish it with the low number. >> speaking of attempts to rnd mine democracy, a rather odd move by donald trump today even by donald trump's standards, he endorsed the far right prime minister of hungary, victor orban. he's someone who has considered -- he's considered a threat to democracy. consolidated power over the years. blocked independent media. wanted to block asylum seekers and refugees. a lot of people might not know this but of the many positions you hold, you are also co-chair of the congressional hungarian caucus. what do you make of this endorsement by trump? is it too much to say that donald trump might want to turn the u.s. into what victor orban has done to hungary? >> well, you know, the hungarian caucus doesn't endorse candidates, but we work on issues of mutual concern. but i have, with my colleagues, communicated with the state department my real concern about what's happening in hungary to the democracy that we all supported so strongly. he is limiting freedom of press. he is attacking human rights. it is very scary about what he is doing to basic democratic principles that people fought so long for. and it's a danger to democracy in the world. the actions that he is taking. >> democratic congresswoman debbie dingell of michigan, good to see you. happy new year. thanks for joining us. president biden makes another promise to respond if russia invades ukraine. so what happens now? we'll go live to the pentagon and to moscow in. next. ♪ ♪ welcome to allstate. where everything just seems to go your way. ♪ ♪ you're in good hands with allstate. click or call for a lower auto rate today. this is the sound of nature breathing. and this is the sound of better breathing. fasenra is a different kind of asthma medication. it's not a steroid or inhaler. fasenra is an add-on treatment for asthma driven by eosinophils. it's one maintenance dose every 8 weeks. it helps prevent asthma attacks, improve breathing, and lower use of oral steroids. nearly 7 out of 10 adults with asthma may have elevated eosinophils. fasenra is designed to target and remove them. fasenra is not a rescue medication or for other eosinophilic conditions. fasenra may cause allergic reactions. get help right away if you have swelling of your face, mouth, and tongue, or trouble breathing. don't stop your asthma treatments unless your doctor tells you to. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection or your asthma worsens. headache and sore throat may occur. this is the sound of fasenra. ask your doctor about fasenra. 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>> sanctions. wide-ranging, hard-hitting, going right after the economy and perhaps the energy sector, financial sector. ones that will make russia pay a heavy price if president vladimir putin decides to invade ukraine. and president biden promised ukraine president zelinsky the u.s. will respond. but it's not only sanctions. there are military options on the table here. not to send troops to ukraine but to send troops to eastern european allies and other countries to show russia and putin the u.s. is still very serious about eastern russia and is watching all of this very carefully sending, for example, reconnaissance flights through ukraine over the last couple of days to monitor russian activity. all of this will be done in close coordination with nato allies. there is, of course, a balancing act here. a fine line between deterrence and provocation. that's what the u.s. and nato are trying to figure out here during this incredibly sensitive time between russia and ukraine. >> the democratic chairman of the house intelligence committee, adam schiff, raise someday eyebrows in an interview talking about the conflict. what did he say about the likelihood that russia will invade again ukraine? >> he was blunt here, not mincing any words. he called it very likely. listen to this. >> i fear that putin is very likely to invade. he certainly appears intent on it unless we can persuade him otherwise. and i think nothing other than a level of sanctions that russia has never seen will deter him and that's exactly what we need to do with our allies. >> biden and the administration have promised sanctions beyond what russia saw following the 2014 invasion of ukraine. and that's what congressman schiff is pointing at saying they need to be sector sized sanctions. even saying there should be sanctions targeting putin personally. >> oren liebermann, thanks. let's get the reaction from the kremlin to president biden's new warning. nic robertson is live in moscow. putin says the current u.s. posture could lead to a complete breakdown of relations. what does the kremlin have to say about the warnings from biden? >> so far, nothing. and i think there are a couple of reasons. it's still a vacation period here. new year's is a big time to celebrate and the orthodox christmas coming up the 7th of january. just later this week. holiday parade for the russian government. however, we did hear from the russian foreign minister over the weekend saying that they, russia, would not allow these talks to drag on. but i think let's take a step back here, jake, for a second. we're looking at this as, how is russia responding to what president biden has said? but it is russia that's created the context and the pressure to have these talks, to have the phone calls with president biden, to have the trickle down effect of president biden's phone call with zelensky of ukraine, to have the meeting next week with the united states, to have the meeting with nato after that. russia in many ways here has set -- has set the grounds already, has pulled the strings to make this happen. this in a way, and i'm not calling it a game, but let's just use that word here for a moment because it's way more serious but they kind of set the terms of this, and they can wait and play it as it comes up. they don't have to say anything at this moment. they've said a lot and constructed this scenario already. >> all right. nic robertson, thank you so much. appreciate it. almost a year since the january 6th attack on the capitol. now a staggering number of americans say they expect violence over future presidential election losses. we're breaking down the numbers, next. ♪ you pour your heart into everything you do, which is a lot. so take care of that heart with lipton. because sippin' on unsweetened lipton can help support a healthy heart. lipton. stop chuggin'. start sippin'. why hide your skin if dupixent has your moderate-to-severe eczema, or atopic dermatitis under control? 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>> look, you know, again it's just a big divide between republicans and everybody else. 59% of trump voters say that the january 6th rioters were defending freedom. just 17% of them called it an insurrection. most americans, however, believe it was, in fact, an insurrection, but, you know, i think what is so interesting here is how they view the january 6th protesters themselves. essentially, if you say, okay, were these january 6th protesters trump supporters, or perhaps left-leaning pretend trump supporters? this is an idea that is been floated out there the among trump voters, look at that, 45% believe in fact these were pretend trump supporters. fortunately most people overall believe the folks on january 6th were trump supporters. there's a lot of americans who believe in the truth, at least. >> it's absolutely disgraceful. such a testament to the maga media and politicians just sup appl plicating to these. >> this is where a losing side concedes peacefully, just 38% say yes, they will. violence over losing? look at that, 62% believe there would be violence over losing in presidential election. biden and trump voters overwhelmingly great on that. i think we're basically going to get the same equation, if not a close closer election, because if you look at the 2024 polls at this particular point, what do you see? you see that biden and trumper neck and neck. 46% providing versus 45% for trump. biden was running away with it. right now voters are very willing to give trump a chance, and despite the fact that a lot of voters feel that trump is responsible for what happened then. >> harry, people saying they think there's going to be violence doesn't mean they support it. there's a lot of people who oppose it, afraid of it. what about voters who say violence is sometimes justified? >> crazy, crazy. 34%, in fact, say it is justified sometimes in an abc news/"the washington post" poll. nearly 24% of trump supporters believe that. the fact is that a third of the public believes that violence is sometimes justified? 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