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star join the family. >> the world was waiting for someone. and diana delivered. >> did you find it difficult to adapt? >> i did, yes. purely because there was so much attention on me when i first arrived on the scene. >> the more the media attention grew on her, the more troubles it created in her marriage. >> as in all familys there would be jealousy caused by this glamorous newbie coming in. >> she quickly became one of the most famous women in the world. ♪ >> diana has no idea what's about to hit her. she's only 21. she's about to make her debut on the world stage. she's embarking on a six-week tour of australia and new zealand. >> it's her first international outing at her royal highness. it's an unbelievable responsibility for a 21-year-old. she has to prove she's up to the job. >> prince of wales led the way. it was his princess who drew most attention. young prince william, was also allowed to come on tour. >> charles was a veteran by then. he knew the ropes. diana didn't. this was hugely daunting for her. >> i was thrown into the deep end. >> pre-diana, there was zilch interest in the royal family. along comes diana and, boom, it all changes. >> the crowds went absolutely mad about diana. >> they came up with a name for her. it was di mania. >> after the wedding, the royal family thought that the attention on diana would die out. diana was lightning in a bottle. she was so different from the rest of the royal family. there's a big difference between the queen. she's above everybody else, untouchable, if you like. diana comes in and she's very much hands on. >> diana physically embraced people there to see her. the ways in which she reached into the crowd to shake hands and crouched down to hug children. >> diana herself was totally overwhelmed. just the intense interest in her. >> at the opera house, the drive through the city brought people out in tens of thousands to catch a glimpse of this woman the world had made so much fuss about. >> i took the photograph. someone through flowers. it flicked on her face. she got a fright. then she started to weep. >> there was a kind of sense of an imposter syndrome. she didn't really deserve this. >> in such a short time she went from being a nursery teacher to marrying the heir to the thrown to stepping into this global spotlight with everybody watching her every move. i can't fathom the pressure that she felt. we all know how it ends. it's a mistake to think their marriage was always sort of as bad as we all seem to think. in fact early on, there was a real love connection and a closeness. >> i was lucky enough to marry her. we had many, many -- it's amazing what ladies do when your back is turned. >> i have lots of photographs where he is gazing at her, looking into her face. you could see it. charles was in love with diana. you can't disguise that. >> there were real genuine moments of happiness, especially when they were with william. >> does prince william have a favorite toy? >> a plastic whale that throws things out of the top, little balls. >> it was, in fact, the place where william took his first steps. charles wrote about it in an almost rapsodic letter saying how much fun it was. initially, she was really overwhelmed. the more she did it, the more she became confident. it was the sort of crucible for diana to prove herself. she did brilliantly. >> charles is thinking, she's such an asset. fantastic. then, of course, things shifted again. >> they chanted for her. >> she obviously had to take one side of the street. charles took the other side of the street. there were audible grown groans people who got charles. >> she was horrified that people were gravitating to her rather than the heir to the thrown. >> hai have come to the conclusn it would have been easier to have two wives to have covered both sides of the street. i could have walked down the middle directing the operation. >> he made light of it. but it was something that bothered him. >> charles found it very difficult to have diana steal his thunder. had spend his life as the star of the show. >> he resented d ed diana's popularity. he said, what is it they love about her? all she did was say yes to me. >> he took it out on me. i understood the jealousy. i couldn't explain that i didn't ask for it. >> the shame is that he didn't see the potential there for both of them. how much diana's star power could have really benefitted the royal family. >> balloons greeted them in canada as the princess continued the process of being introduced to the commonwealth. >> when the royal couple got to canada, diana had changed. there was a confidence. >> she was on the front cover of every newspaper, every magazine. all over the world. s >> the royal family wasn't giving her feedback. it was something she was craving. what a boost that must have been. as a young woman, that would mean a lot. >> she was beginning to realize her own power, her resonance, the fact that people just loved and adored her. >> big royal trip. australia, new zealand, canada. massive. >> massive for only one person. massive for diana. >> here they are, barely two years in, and diana is becoming this global icon. that really starts to put a strain on their marriage. >> it was a changing sense of where the power and love was. that was going to stay like that forever. ♪ it wasn't me by shaggy ♪ you're never responsible for unauthorized purchases on your discover card. what if you could have the perspective to see more? 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with fire and got badly burned. >> i was the personal protection officer for the princess of wales for nine years. >> barry mannakee was a protection officer in our team. and i started to notice her behavior was unusual when we were anywhere near barry mannakee, which was certainly indicating that something may have happened between them. so i decided to talk to her about it. and for the first 20 minutes she absolutely categorically denied it, but then she told me exactly what was going on. she was having some sort of relationship with mannakee. >> she was smitten. she's having her first crush after her marriage. she never had a boyfriend before she met charles and she's living life almost in reverse. >> i do understand why someone like princess diana, who didn't have a loving husband or a happy marriage, would become susceptible to looking at barry mannakee. he's representing everything that she doesn't have in her life. warmth, strength, presence. >> my main thing was to try and persuade her just how dangerous and impossible it would be for her to remain with the boys. it was just lunacy. >> it was right under charles's nose. it also makes you wonder about how much attention she was getting from charles if he was missing it. >> the way she felt was so strong it wasn't going to stop. we arranged for barry to be transferred away from the department. the excuse being used to the prince of wales was these domestic circumstances, the hours he was working. they went on a joint engagement and she was clearly very upset. the prince of wales approached me and said why is the princess behaving in the way she is? what on earth is the matter? so i said you've got to talk to her. and he said well, i've tried all that and the only thing that seems to be upsetting her is that barry mannakee is going back to uniform. and if she's that upset barry can stay. at that stage i was forced to say, well, sir, if he stays then i'm afraid i'll have to leave. and i think at that point the penny dropped. he was utterly shocked and was clearly, clearly very upset. the popular perception is that the prince of wales was straying all the way through his marriage, and that is definitely unequivocally not the case. the first person that strayed was the princess. he went back to see mrs. parker-bowles after he learned about her affair with mannakee. nobody is the villain. in my view everybody's a victim. he was under a lot of pressure to get married, and she too was a victim of this whole process. >> just realizing that charles had gone back to camilla. >> prince charles never really stopped loving camilla parker-bowles. when the opportunity arose, he went back to her. >> when you analyze these two different affairs, there's a huge difference. charles was rejecting diana because he loved somebody else. diana was never really rejecting charles. she was just desperate to be loved. >> for princess diana it was the realization of her worst fear because she had always suspected that camilla was her husband's great love. >> diana was at a really low ebb. there was even a moment when she took a penknife and cut herself. her bulimia became very intense. they were in vancouver and they were touring this exhibition. diana sort of moved close to charles and sort of touched his arm and she started to slide down to the floor and she fainted. >> the police took the whole thing very seriously. in slow motion you can see she was in some distress. the prince attempting to look unconcerned followed behind. >> she looked reasonably well recovered at the evening's government dinner but it was probably a banquet she could have done without. >> even though doctors advised she stay in bed, prince charles insisted she accompany him. >> the prince made a joke of the whole affair. >> it's really entirely due to the extremely advantageous conditions that pertain in british columbia which have ensured that she's about to have six -- which is really why she fainted. >> he showed a lack of sympathy. it was an indication that he didn't care as much, that something had gone out of the marriage. >> charles did not understand her eating disorder. i think it was frustrating and confusing to him. it was a very different era where people didn't understand eating disorders very well at all. but he actually went one further than that. he made cruel jokes. >> there's so much shame attached to the condition, it's pretty much the worst thing you could say to someone battling that kind of disease. it's her coping mechanism. >> she feels with her bulimia she can control something in her life. >> so much of the attention around her was on her appearance. her thinness was often celebrated. >> and it just continued into a really damaging cycle. >> the royal family does not know how to deal with this because bulimia centers around emotions. so she's alone and she's longing for somebody to love her and to support her. james hewitt was this very dashing, dreamy 28-year-old household cavalry officer. diana first spotted james hewitt on the day of fergie and prince andrew's wedding. he was on duty at buckingham palace and she sort of threw him this flirty comment, nice outfit, something along those lines. and eventually invited him to a drinks party. >> knowing that james hewitt was a riding instructor, she invited him to give her riding lessons to help her overcome her long-standing childhood fear of horses. >> he was someone who was fun, who was unswerving in his devotion to her. but also there was a tremendous excitement. >> it was amazingly difficult to find somewhere to meet privately. we would go to windsor to meet hewitt for riding lessons. >> unlike charles and camilla who all their friends knew about their relationships and would host them at their big estates and homes, diana couldn't do that. he was put in the boot of cars. he was driven to kensington palace. >> she was invited to go to his mother's house near exeter, where we would go for weekends. it was a remote location, but it was always a tense time because she was very easily spotted. if the princess of wales and hewitt went for a walk in the woods or on a beach somewhere, she certainly wasn't looking like a princess. she'd be in normal day clothes, hoodie, dark glasses. the hair be would be covered up. >> although she may have some romantic notion of going off with james hewitt, i think she was also very much a realist. she was the princess of wales. she was the mother of the future king. she couldn't just go off and live with this rather impoverished army officer. >> there was no question of divorce then. and so it was a fantasy for them both. charles absolutely knew about the affair and in fact approved of it because it gave him more time and space with mrs. parker-bowles and amongst the aristocracy that was normal. and what they found unfathomable about diana was that she simply wouldn't accept that this was the norm. she did not want that. >> she wanted the life that she had hoped for on their wedding day, and she kept fighting for it. 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part of her power was to project a glamourous image, she did that if full, and then she did something that was the antithesis. >> diana confounded expectations of her. she went to parts of the city they would not expect a princess to show up. >> diana went to harlem and visited a pediatric aids unit. >> the princess had meeting with children suffering from aids and wanted to know more about children's who's aids were complicated by mother's drug abuse. >> i was 8 years old at the time princess diana came to visit harlem hospital and i was excited my mom would be welcoming princess diana to the hospital. >> she came in and she said where are they? we just took her to where the children were. she could not wait to get there. >> during the late '80s crack cocaine ravaged our neighborhood and with the drug addiction came sharing of needles and many modes of transmission of hiv/aids. it was a and back then, these children were born with hiv and also severely addicted to crack. >> as she went to the room there was a little boy she went over and picked him up and he kind of just held on to her arm. and you could just see the love that this woman had. for humanity. she was letting people know that you can be with them and you can love them. >> they were surprised she had come to harlem hospital, a place never visited by any american president and few major president and few political leaders. >> at the time the government couldn't get a grip on the aids crisis and she gave it the attention it merited. >> she chose to come to a small community hospital in the middle of a minority era during a crack epidemic. i can't say enough about the courage that takes. i thought it was amazing she would come to my neighborhood and say let me see your struggle and let me lend some assistance it to it. >> diana had proved her range that she could be the glamourous uptown princess but then also dive really deep into these taboo social topics ever the time. and accomplish real good in the world. >> the press turned on a dime. suddenly she was, as one headline said, divine. >> diana's eight years into her marriage and has come a long way and feels strong enough to confront the major torment in her life and that's the other woman. >> she accompanies prince charles to a birthday party and among the guests is camilla parker bowles. >> she went and got a stunning outfit. she got some very special lingerie because she decided, she told me, that she would make charles realize what he was missing. diana still thought as late at 1989 there might be a chance to salvage something. >> it's like entering the lion's den, enemy territory, where everyone else is in on the secret but you're the butt of the joke. >> everybody at that party is part of charles and camilla access. they've jaw-droppingly astonishing when diana walks down stairs to speak to camilla. >> i was terrified. i said i just want to know exactly what's going on. don't treat me like an idiot. >> it was a huge show of power. the key phrase in what diana says to camilla is not i know what's going on. it's don't treat me like a fool. >> she said to me, got -- you've got everything you wanted. all of the world fall in love with you, what do you want. so i said i want my husband. >> the moment camilla basically said well you should be happy with what you got. diana must have realized, oh, my god this is going to go on forever. camilla is not sorry. she's not even pretending to be sorry. >> i -- seven years of pent up anger came out. i felt a tremendous shift. said what i felt. >> it was a breakthrough for her. >> from this point on diana becomes increasingly disillusioned with the sham that is her marriage. she's about to take control of her own story. >> marriage offers stability. >> here you have her husband, future king of england, in love with someone else. >> she was like a tinder box waiting to explode. >> isn't it normal to feel angry and want to change a situation that is hurting? >> this was her going totally rogue, risking it all, not knowing where it would lead. >> diana is effectively planting a bomb under the royal family. >> she wanted her truth to be told . marriage offers stability. >> diana is in a loveless marriage and really is living a lie. >> for many of these marriages, reality fails to live up to expectations. >> here you have her husband, the future king of england in love with someone else

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