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that everything went well and it's been a rough journey, but we made it through it. >> the verdict is also sparking unrest. protesters gathering in several cities across the country overnight. in portland, oregon, police declared a riot after they said demonstrators forced open the gates to the county's downtown jail and threw bottles an other objects at police. police say demonstrators caused damage to some city buildings. in new york, protestors marched through the streets and shut down traffic on the brooklyn bridge. natasha chen is in kenosha, wisconsin today. so there were some worries about some protests that may take place throughout the city of kenosha. what did happen? >> well, fred, not much happened in the form of protests. whe we did see a crowd gathered behind us when the verdict was read. a very emotional moment for supporters of rittenhouse as well as the families of the victims of the people he killed as well as the family of jacob blake. remember blake is the black man shot by kenosha police, paralyzed from the waist down. that is the incident that spurred these protests to begin with in august 2020 when rittenhouse clashed with these protestors. besides those moments with those emotional families there, there wasn't much in the sense of marches or even riots throughout this community that has already seen so much violence and tension over the past 15 months. we did see some signs here held by people calling for unity and healing here so a very different tone that what you possibly saw in brooklyn or portland. you even had the district attorney here to the president of the united states asking for people to express their views peacefully. we did ask the defense attorney what his client said to him after the verdict was read. he said he said thank you and was still taking it all in. you did play a clip there where a camera seemed to be following rittenhouse right after the verdict, getting his reaction. our chris cuomo on the air last night asked his attorney how he felt about the camera following rittenhouse during this process. >> i did not approve of that. i threw them out of the room several times. they were, and i'm not suggesting that fox or some other network. i don't think a film crew is appropriate for something like this. but the people who were raising the money to pay for the experts and to pay for the attorneys were trying to raise money and that was part of it. >> when mark richards there was talking to us during a press conference yesterday afternoon, he made it pretty clear that he was here working on behalf of his clients, not for any particular cause. he said that one of the pivotal points of success for their case was actually getting rid of the initial attorneys whom he felt were working toward a greater cause and he had told his client if you wanted someone to go on a particular crusade, that was not going to be him. so he was clear with us that he was really here to defend his clients on the issue of self-defense. fred. >> thanks so much for that. this has been a very emotional time for many, but especially for the families of those who were killed or seriously injured by kyle rittenhouse. i want to bring in now john huber, he is the father of anthony huber. anthony huber was one of the victims killed that night along with joseph rosenbaum and gage grosskreutz was shot and injured. you saw his testimony. john, so glad you could be with us. i know this has opinan extremel difficult time for you and your family. what is your thought this morning, a day after this acquittal of kyle rittenhouse? >> well, we're still in shock that this is the outcome. we still can't believe it. >> what were your expectations? >> he should have got about 40 years in prison. that was our expectation. >> you didn't see the defense's point of view of self-defense. what point did you perhaps lose hope that there would be a guilty verdict? was there something in the testimonies or the process of the trial that changed that allowed you to see that you were not going to get the verdict you were looking for? >> you could tell by the biased judge that it was going to go that way. >> was there a moment in particular that stands out for you? >> i knew something was wrong when they threw out the minor carrying a gun. why throw that out in the middle of the trial? they should have let the jury decide. you needed that so we could walk out. yeah. >> and then you heard the remarks coming from kyle rittenhouse after the verdict. he said you know, that it was self-defense and that the law was on his side. i mean, i'm paraphrasing for you. what's your sentiment to how he expressed himself after the verdict? >> he thought he was above the law anyways. that's how it's always been. he got out on bail. had he of been a black man, he wouldn't have got out. >> and so now what is the message in your view? what's the message being sent as a result of this verdict, that it was self-defense. kyle rittenhouse felt justified and the jurors felt that he was justified in the killing of your son. >> yeah. we can't say what the jurors were thinking, but they were given specific instructions and parameters by that judge. and they were following his instructions i'm sure. and so they probably couldn't come up with a conviction. >> and you just said that you know, had this, had race been more prominent in that, there were either black victims or a black young man who was holding the gun, the outcome would have been different. what are the parallels or the contrasts that you see in how this case was decided? had it been more blatant that there were either black victims or a black gunman involved? >> well, that's kind of a complicated question for me right now. i'm just, we're still in shock here. you know? you know, that guy gets to run free and he's now, he's now a hero. this is my son right here. this is anthony. you know? we lost our son. and there's no justice right now for our family and there's no closure and there wasn't going to be justice in that kenosha court with that judge. >> so you're most, you're most frustrated about the judge. and his composure or behavior in his courtroom. >> he's an embarrassment to all of kenosha. they are not proud of that judge. i guarantee you. >> and do you have any strong sentiments about how the defense handled this knowing and learning now about the funding that went toward kyle rittenhouse and the fact that that defense team was able to study with detail the jurors and how to appeal to them? >> well, the best money could buy. you know? he had a lot of people giving him money. for what? were they afraid they were going to take their guns? no one's going to take their guns. why blame the guns? the kid shouldn't have had a gun. the kid shouldn't have bought him a gun. they shouldn't have sold him the gun in lady smith, wisconsin at the ace hardware. i hold all those people responsible. dominic black. his father. the city of kenosha. the police weren't doing their jobs. so then average citizens had to patrol the streets? that's ridiculous. these people need to be held responsible. >> how do you suppose that can happen at this juncture? do you see or entertain any kind of civil suits? >> well, we're in one now. >> can you give me more detail on that? >> i really can't speak on that. >> do you feel like the prosecutors, the prosecuting team could have done more? do you feel like they failed you? or are you satisfied with the way they handled this case? even though it was a loss for you and your family? >> i think mr. binger did a great job and i think he, it was rigged against him from the beginning. >> what do you -- >> and the judge made a fool of him and the jurors saw that. and that the ambulance chaser, what's his name? richards? he knew he had free reign of the courtroom because of that judge. he got everything he wanted. anytime he cried, the judge did what he said. it was rigged. >> john huber, is there anything you want to reveal about what your next step is to see if you can get justice for your son, anthony? >> all i'm saying is the fight's not over. the fight's not over. there's big issues here at hand that people have been sweeping under the rug for years like racism in the police in kenosha. and they've been sweeping it under the rug for years and the people are tired of it. people are tired of this stuff. you know? and we're going to fight until there's justice. >> i think so many can feel your frustration. john huber, thank you so much for your time and for really pouring out your heart at what is continuing to be a very difficult time for you and your family. >> thank you. all right. coming up, attorneys in the ahmaud arbery murder trial begin closing arguments on monday as one defense attorney denies he tried to get his client a plea deal. more on that straight ahead. and later this hour, the cdc gives the initial sign off for pfizer and moderna covid boosters for all adults. just as cases rise in many areas across the country. straight ahead of the holidays. . oh no. for the gifts you won't forget. the mercedes-benz winter event. get a credit toward your first month's payment on select models. during walmart's black friday deals for days, there's all the best deals. score monday online or friday in-store. this season head to walmart's black friday deals for days. ♪ ♪ (man 1 vo) i'm living with cll and thanks to imbruvica (man 2 vo) i'm living longer. 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>> no, ma'am. >> didn't pull out any guns? >> no, ma'am. >> no knife. >> no, ma'am. >> never reached for for anything, did he? >> no. >> just ran. >> yes, he was just running. >> arbery's family expressing outrage over comments yesterday by defense attorney for one of the defendants who compared a prayer rally led by a group of black pastors outside the kourtd courthouse to a public lynching of his client. he made the comments in a motion for mistrial, which was denied. joining me now, tim alexander, a civil rights attorney, a former 27-year police detective who was also running for congress as a democrat in new jersey. tim, always good to see you. so, one of the defense attorneys reportedly approaching the prosecution thursday wanting to make a plea deal. is that an indicator of the defense feeling the heat that it's self-defense strategy is in trouble? >> certainly is an indicator that his client did not perform well during cross-examination and it gave them pause or concern for the outcome of the trial for his client so he approached or allegedly approached the prosecutors for a deal, which makes perfect sense. >> putting a defendant on the stand can go either way. in this case, mcmichael told the court ahmaud arbery was no threat during the chase. this worked well for the prosecution. did the defense misjudge any benefit that it might have thought it had to put him on the stand? >> it is a bit of a head scratcher because when we make those considerations at my firm, we go through mock cross-examination and it goes for hours and you know, a case like this where there's so much evidence and so much information, i can't see putting him through a session and then coming out with the same decision that we should put him on the testify. now the client is in charge and maybe he insists upon testifying, but i would say that would have to be against counsel's advice given the outcome of this decision. >> it certainly backfired for the defense because he eliminated the whole issue of self-defense, saying that arbery was no threat at all. didn't point a gun. didn't point a weapon. didn't even say anything verbally that would have been a threatening. so you know, in this trial, the defense attorney is also in the spotlight. kevin goff. ke keeps putting himself there. he said he doesn't want anymore pastors sitting with the family. now he's calling it a public lynching. this has to be intentional for him? what are the smoke signals he's trying to send and to whom? >> i can't even imagine as an officer of the court, as an attorney that you would stand up and compare pastors peacefully standing with the victims of, the victim of an atrocious crime, make some comparison to a lynching when we can look at the events that occurred where mr. arbery lost his life and see a lynching. there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. all his actions are blowing my mind. they're not furthering his cause. the court is annoyed and if he's building a record for an appeal, i don't see it. it's just ludicrous that he would make these comparisons when there's nothing on the record to suggest these pastors, in the courtroom, or outside, are doing anything to interfere. >> it's incensive, ignorant and no one believes he didn't know the power of his words and what he was saying and you know, just the historical implications as well. in the deep south like this. so i'm wondering, are you seeing any paralleling here? while the case of kyle rittenhouse is very different and while race wasn't blatantly an issue, obviously there are many who see race is an issue because this was a young, white man, boy, you know, with a gun. you heard from you know, the father of anthony huber earlier who said you know, race does indeed play a role here and now you've got race blatantly playing a role here in this brunswick, georgia case where these three white men hunting down this young black man and they, too, are saying self-defense. what are the parallels you see here in this case and the potential outcomes and if there's a real concern about the outcomes mirroring one another? >> the only distinctions i draw with respect to the two matters is that you have vigilante justice gone wrong and you have these men, whether it's kyle rittenhouse or these three in georgia, going out, trying to protect property with deadly force. the difference, the distinction though, particularly with mr. arbery's case, this is more akin to prelaw enforcement. where this country had slave patrols and that men went out armed looking for fugitive v slaves and people who ran away from plantations. i see the action of the three in georgia more akin to that that they went out looking to interact with mr. arbery in the most vile, negative way because othe otherwise why would you arm yourself with a shotgun and .357? not having any information that he has a weapon, but more importantly, he didn't commit a crime. jogging in america is not a crime. period. and they didn't see him commit a crime, which again, bucks against the vigilante statute in the state. so in this situation, i see a strong distinction more to trayvon martin more to wisconsin because it's just that egregious. >> always good to see you. thank you so much for being with us. >> like wielz. chinese state media claims to show new videos of missing tennis star, peng shuai, after pictures released earlier didn't calm the outage over her disappearance. bipolar depression. it made me feel like i was trapped in a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of people living with bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place... ...and be hard to manage. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. latuda is not for everyone. call your doctor about unusual mood changes, behaviors, or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. elderly dementia patients on latuda have an increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles, and confusion, as these may be life threatening... ...or uncontrollable muscle movements, as these may be permanent. these are not all the serious side effects. now i'm back where i belong. ask your doctor about latuda and pay as little as $0 for your first prescription. with directv stream, i can get live tv and on demand... together. watch: serena williams... wonder woman. serena... wonder woman... serena... wonder woman... ♪ ♪ ace. advantage! you cannot be serious! ♪ ♪ get your tv together with the best of live and on demand. introducing directv stream. ray loves vacations. but his diabetes never seemed to take one. everything felt like a 'no'. everything. but then ray went from no to know. with freestyle libre 2, now he knows his glucose levels when he needs to. and... when he wants to. so ray... can be ray. take the mystery out of your glucose levels, and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free. visit freestylelibre.us just in, chinese state media has released video of peng shuai having dinner with her coach and friends. cnn cannot verify the video clips or when these images were filmed. the women's tennis organization, however, is still threatening to pull out of the china in terms of tournaments unless they are reassured that peng shuai is okay. she hasn't been seen for nearly three weeks now after accusing one of china's most powerful former leaders of sexual assault. here now is cnn's will ripley. >> tennis in china. a billion dollar business for the wta. ten tournaments reportedly a third of their revenue. highly lucrative and for the chinese government, highly prestigious. now, it's all on the line. the wta is demanding answers. where is tennis icon, peng some shuai? is she okay? she has not been seen in public since november 2nd. the 35-year-old doubles grand slam champion accusing china's 75-year-old vice premier of coercing or having sex about three years ago at his home. chinese propaganda on overdrive, seemingly trying to silence the outcry, chinese journalists claiming these are from her we chat with the caption, happy weekend. no time stamp on the photos. no actual direct communication with peng herself. on endorwednesday, a suspicious e-mail only adding to fears for her well-being. the e-mail retracts her allegations saying i'm not missing nor am i unsafe. i've just been resting at home. everything's fine. the wta not convinced. demanding proof she's safe, a probe into her allegations. the organization's ceo telling "outfront" he is prepared to pull out of the china. potentially losing a lucrative ten-year deal. >> we have to start as a world making decisions that are based upon right and wrong. period. and we can't compromise that. and we're definitely willing to pull out business and deal with all the complications that come with it because this is certainly, this is bigger than the business. >> china is a nation ruled by powerful men. long accused of suppressing the rights of women and minorities including silencing leaders of china's me too movement. now the apparent silencing of peng shuai. china appears to be going to great lengths, using the government's immense power to protect the reputation of a retired communist party leader. so far, beijing's blatant censorship is doing just the opposite. china's ministry of foreign affairs refusing to comment or even acknowledge the growing controversy. the wta taking a stand. a huge financial gamble. its regional headquarters is in beijing. the tennis organization willing to walk away from the massive chinese market to stand up for one of its stars. olympics organizers are staying out of it just weeks before the beijing winter games. peng is a three-time olympian. joe biden considering a diplomatic boycott, but the ioc says quiet diplomacy offers a best solution. >> i've seen losing business in china. the nba buckled under pressure and here's the wta saying enough is enough. standing up, doing what's right. when in the world do we see that anymore in sports? 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>> fred, partial is the right word. this is a big step for president biden's agenda and for democrats getting their version of the build back better plan passed through the house. but whether you're a republican or a democrat, whether you're talking about elections or pushing major legislation, it's incumbent among politicians to remember you've got to run all the way through the tape. i know you know what i'm talking about. your dad was an olympic gold medalist in track and field, but for people who don't like sports analogies, you have to see these things through to the end and i expect that democrats will get the build back better plan passed which will be in addition to that hard infrastructure bill that has already been passed by both houses, but they can't take anything for granted here. >> i love those sports analogies, too. they're not even in that final lap, so there you go. so how difficult will it be for the democrats to get this bill passed in the senate? especially with democratic senator, joe manchin, expressing a lot of concerns and questions about the bill yet again? >> i think you can point the finger at almost everybody in this situation. republicans sat on their hands and basically did nothing to go along with the norm normal legislative process. progressives could have moved toward a realization that nothing would become law that senator manchin would not vote for and just sort of deal with that reality. whether they wanted to or not. when you're taking about manchin, he's been somewhat did disinous. yet his primary top line concern throughout this process has been that the bill is too big. too expensive. well, he knows full well that whether the bill passes at 2 trillion or 1 trillion, whether there's 12 weeks of parental leave or four weeks, people in west virginia are going to avail themselves of the benefits of this bill and i don't think he's being forthcoming. >> even though there are still many phases and there was a victory lap, the democrats really had to wait a day, right, before they could even hold that vote after kevin mccarthy held an all-night record long speech, a railing about the bill. take a listen to some of what he had to say. >> what the democrats are proposing is out of touch in the extreme. what we have before us isn't a social spending bill, it's a pathway to socialism. >> so i wonder is that sort of a preview of how the republicans are going to frame this, you know, upcoming vote, any upcoming vote in a likely gop strategy for the 2022 midterms? >> it probably is. i watched about four or five hours of that eight-hour speech and it was basically a one-hour speech given eight times. it was basically socialism, shining city on a hill, competing with china, rinse, repeat. i think that congressman mccarthy wants to be speaker so he wanted to get himself out there in advance of the midterm election year. i think he was testing out some republican messages. he wanted to blunt the victory of democrats in the house on getting their bill passed on the house side. there was so much focus in that speech on our competition, our sort of superpower competition, economic and military with china that if i were a reporter on capitol hill now, anytime i saw congressman mccarthy, i would ask him what he thinks about tennis player peng shuai. i would ask him as speaker, if he becomes speaker, would support u.s. military intervention on behalf of taiwan, if it was attacked by china and i would ask him a year or two out, what does he think of president trump's tariff war with china. does he think that americans benefitted from that or not. it's one thing to get up there in posture, but another to actually say something that's you know, more, you know, not just smoke, but actual, you know, fire and actual talking about what republicans might do if they get the majority back. >> all right. david, leave it there for you. good to see you and have a great, happy thanksgiving holiday. >> you, too. >> thank you. we're back in a moment. t right . high thryv! thryv? 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do you find that people are still going to be doing masks indoors, asking questions, what's the etiquette, i should say? >> it's a great question, and it's an etiquette we're creating in realtime. as a doctor, i think about risks in gradations or levels, it's not black and white, so really you're taking a bunch of factors into account. if everyone who is there is vaccinated, you are in the best possible scenario. i still do recommend a rapid test the morning of thanksgiving just because we do see some breakthrough cases, and those can sometimes transmit. if there are going to be some people who are unvaccinated. particularly kids, it's even more important to do that rapid test, and if there are a

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