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ceremony. $110 billion for roads, bridges and other projects, $65 billion to expand high speed internet access, $42 billion for airports and ports and the biggest funding boost for amtrak since it was founded in 1971, but as the president celebrates this accomplishment, rising inflation is threatening the rest of his economic agenda and helping push his poll numbers to new lows. for more on this, let's bring in joe johns at the white house. joe, tell us more about the significance of this bill signing tomorrow and how the white house is hoping to get the rest of his agenda through. >> reporter: well, at least part of this week is going to be devoted to something that democrats see themselves as not very good at or something they think they can at least do better at, is something republicans especially somebody like donald trump see themselves as excelling at, and that is taking credit for big ideas and selling themselves to the public as the people who pushed it through. so that's what we're going to see with this infrastructure bill. tomorrow here at the white house, we are expecting a signing ceremony involving the president and a cast of other people, and it doesn't stop there. then, we expect to see the president going out into the country to sell this idea, this infrastructure bill in both new hampshire as well as michigan, and the point of all of this is there is some concern here that during all of the infighting up on capitol hill over this bill, lost in the process may have been what this bill is for, all those things that you read at the very beginning, fred. roads, bridges, infrastructure, to help americans and to sort of improve they say, even the economy given this time of inflation. fred? >> all right, joe johns at the white house. thanks so much. all right. house speaker nancy pelosi is vowing to finally bring the president's massive spending bill for a vote this week. up to this point, getting his second part of the agenda has been a struggle for democrats who remain divided on the size and cost of the bill, and its possible impact on inflation. let's go to capitol hill. suzanne is there, and what do we expect might happen this week? >> reporter: joe is absolutely right. the democrats are going to be taking a victory rap if you will -- lap, if you will. they want to make sure there's momentum behind the build back better bill, and that's something democratic leadership specifically nancy pelosi is trying to do over the weekend. you might recall fred, it was just last week, a small group of moderates said they were not going to move this forward. they de-coupled it from the infrastructure bill until they got the independent budget office to score it, let us know the taxpayers, how much this is going to cost and whether or not that aligns with what the white house predicted. pelosi is sending a dear colleague letter over the weekend saying that six of nine committees got those cbo scores and they were in line with those white house figures and that she anticipates that three other committees will get their scores by monday. so of course, we're keeping an eye on the website there to see if that, in fact, does happen, but by friday morning, it will depend who you ask, in terms of where they think the future of this bill is going. >> well, i'm not at all convinced that the build back better plan is actually going to pass or even be considered this week. i don't think the votes are there yet. a good number of democrats had demanded and are going to receive a cbo report as to whether, is it really paid for? >> i do believe that we will have a vote this week on the build back better act. it will go to the senate, and then it will be up to the senate democrats and the president who gave us his commitment that he believed he could get this across the finish line in the form that it's -- that the framework was presented. so yes is the short answer, we will have a vote this week. >> reporter: so, fred, we will see that. we will see whether or not that actually happens, when it goes on the senate side. as you know, joe manchin from moderate from west virginia very much a key negotiator in where it goes from there. his main objection here, whether or not it compounds the country's inflation problems and also you should know just kind of a pre-emptive move and anticipation of all the things that the congress has to get done, particularly in the senate. before next year we heard from senate majority leader chuck schumer in a dear colleague letter saying he anticipates and of course, you're going to have to deal with the debt ceiling, funding the military, but anticipates there might be a continuing resolution for funding the government because they very likely will not make that deadline december 3rd to fully fund the government. they might have to just kick the can down the road a little bit on that one, fred. >> all right. suzanne malveaux on capitol hill. thanks so much for that. with me now is reverend william barber. he is the co-chair of the poor people's campaign. so good to see you joining us from new york today. >> thank you. >> you are leading the rally in the nation's capital tomorrow as congress returns to debate and possibly vote on this build back better plan this week. tell us why you believe this bill is so important to the american public. >> fredricka, first of all, part of the problem is we talk about is it biden's plan or manchin's plan? it's the people's plan, and the people who were hurt the most during covid, poor and low wealth people, white, black, brown, asian, people of every different race, creed and color. so tomorrow, we have people coming from 30 states. we have been trying to deal with manchin and sinema, and they won't. we're going to go. listen. if we don't do this, people who need earned income tax credit are the ones who lose. there's 17 million working families. 4 million children will lose if we don't do the child tax credit. if we don't raise the money for home health care workers, 28% of them are black. 23% are latino. they will lose. we need to start talking about not how much does it cost, but how much will it cost if we don't do this, and inflation is not an issue in this. jeffrey saxton, the economist said this bill is paid for by taxing the billionaires and that's the problem. people don't want to tax the billionaires even though it's poor wage workers who saved this country during mr. covid. we need bridges but we also need health care and wages and those things that are the infrastructure of people's daily lives. people are not backing down. >> so you've tried to reach out to senators manchin and sinema, and what has happened by you reaching out? have they said no or do you know that they received the invitation from you? >> oh, yeah. >> that you want to meet and talk about the specifics like you just laid out? >> sure. they've received it. we know that because we always send it certified mail, but when we won't to sinema's office, we got arrested. when we went to manchin's office, they said he wasn't available right then. it's his own people. he comes from a poor state. we have people there from west virginia tomorrow who are engaging in civil disobedience if necessary because they say, why is our senator blocking health care for us? why is our senator blocking child tax credit for us when we are a state that need it more than any place else? that's what's so confusing. why would you choose the billionaires over your own people? and by the way, we keep saying this is a spending bill. this is an investment bill. there are -- the economic institute and others say when you invest in education, when you invest in health care, when you invest in living wages, it actually builds the economy. you know, joe manchin for instance, sinema blocked raising the minimum wage in the american rescue plan. think about this. if we had raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour, it would have pumped $330 billion into the economy, and it would have lifted 32 million people out of poverty and low wealth, and 40% of african-americans. so lastly, the other thing we have to talk about is the racial parts of this. if you block these bills, it's a form of systemic racism and classism because when you disaggregate the numbers, that's who's going to benefit the most, and the infrastructure, mostly white men will benefit, and the bbb, poor whites, poor blacks, poor natives and poor asians. that's what we need to be talking about. >> this is very much race-related. we're talking about ahmaud arbery's trial in georgia. you have attended that trial to sit with arbery's family members. on thursday, we heard some peculiar words coming from the defense attorney objecting to any more black pastors to attend the jury. here it is. >> starting yesterday, we're going to bring high profile members of the african-american community into the courtroom to sit with the family during the trial to the jury, i believe that's intimidating and it's an attempt to pressure. it could be consciously or unconsciously an attempt to pressure or influence the jury. we don't want any more black pastors coming in here. jesse jackson or whoever was here this week, was sitting with the family trying to influence the jury. >> by the way, jesse jackson wasn't there. you have been there though. i guess he confused the two of you, and this is how he tried to clean it up. >> my statements yesterday were wrong. i will file up with a more specific motion on monday. my apologies to anyone who might have been inadvertently been offended. >> whether it was initial statement or even his quote/unquote apology, what does this either reveal to you or cement to you? >> well, this is not peculiar if you come from the south. we've heard this before. this is a trope, and whether it's myself or jesse jackson, we shouldn't even take this personal. it's not about us. this is about something much deeper. first of all, he doesn't have a case, so he's trying to do whatever he can because his own clients filmed themselves k killing someone else, and think about that. you have people who have killed people and you're saying black pastors are intimidating. lastly, he said black pastors are intimidating. he's connecting blackness to intimidation, and that is the crux of the american racial violence problem. blackness is intimidating to the white supremacist mob. blackness, you can purge it and top it because it's bad. it's a -- excuse me for saying it, but blackness is intimidation. that is the fundamental problem that has been in this country for far too long in the white supremacist mindset and he should not have done that. lastly, i want to say, you know, i'm not a black pastor. i'm a pastor who happens to be black. i didn't get ordained to be a black pastor. we are pastors, but think about how he's trying to narrow even the concept of a minister who happens to be black, but you only deal with black folk, and when you do, you're intimidating. that's the danger of that language because you can put it on anything, and what happened to ahmaud, he had blackness. he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, black, and they saw him as someone they could destroy, kill, and they filmed it because he was black, and they were right. they want to be heroes rather than showing up as murderers. >> yeah, and all you said is so profound. i have to ask you though even though the cases are very different. we're talking about two cases right now that america is watching and they're very different cases. that with kyle rittenhouse, but i see some commonalities when you talk about self-defense and protecting property that was not theirs, you know, race may not be a component of the kyle rittenhouse, but what do you see in this correlation? what is the message that america should be gathering here when we're talking about, people were killed where there's a evang vigilanteism and there's self-defense over the protection of property that isn't even theirs and people die? >> i think when you look at it in this case, and in terms of things like the build back better because 700 people die a day from poverty, a quarter million a year. who makes up the majority of those? if 60.9% of black people are poor or low wealth, and 40% of white people, and that means 66 million white people and 26 million black. the notion is that if someone who attacks someone who is black, the black person had to be doing something. think about this. the black person didn't have the gun. the black person was just jogging. the white persons had the gun, the cause, and multiple guns and they're saying they were protecting themselves from the black man. why? because blackness again and that mindset is automatically guilty. it's automatically wrong. it's automatically intimidating. it's automatically something to be stopped, and we've seen it. people have said, you know, imagine if on january 6th, it had been african-americans and latinos that were going into the -- people have asked the question, don't you know some people would have been shot more? we are in a time where we are going to have to look much deeper when it comes to this issue of race and the kind of violence and ugliness that is wrapped into some people's idea of blackness. where blackness itself renders your target, where blackness itself makes you guilty, where blackness itself means i can kill you because you must have done something. you had to do something. you wouldn't be here, over here. we'll kill you and worry about fixing it later. we'll shoot you down and worry larts later because you had to do something. i know you done something because you're black, and by being black, being brown, you are intimidating and that's the lesson america is going to have to deal with if we're ever going to get at cthe crux of these issues and wonder where people do it, cops do it and other folks do it and they seem to have no remorse. in the mindset, when i was killing, i was not killing? ing that didn't deserve it or somebody that didn't deserve it. the blackness itself in some people's mind is guilty enough. >> all right. reverend william barber, so glad to have you. thank you so much. >> thank you. thank you. all right. coming up, investigators say they have tracked down and identified a bank teller that stole hundreds of thousands of dollars 52 years ago. we talk to one of the story's key investigators next. people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ ♪ my only sunshine... ♪ rybelsus® is a pill that lowers blood sugar in three ways. increases insulin when you need it... decreases sugar... and slows food. the majority of people taking rybelsus® lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7. rybelsus® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop rybelsus® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. taking rybelsus® with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases low blood sugar risk. side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may worsen kidney problems. wake up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ please don't take my sunshine away ♪ you may pay as little as $10 per prescription. ask your healthcare provider about rybelsus® today. 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from cleveland. so pete, how did you crack this case? >> well, really i credit my father. my father passed away in march of 2020. he worked on this case since 1969. he was a deputy u.s. marshal, you know, we grew up near where conrad lived. conrad and my father had the same doctor, and conrad used to work at a local ice cream shop where my dad used to take us as kids. so this was personal for my father. >> my goodness. >> my dad -- my father did a lot during this. he pulled applications from the college and i have those original applications. when we saw the obituary of thomas randall, we immediately noticed a lot of things. first, it said he was raised in colorado, which conrad was. he went to college where conrad went to. his birthday was 7-10 of '47. a lot of similarities. he said he was the son of edward and ruth krueger randall. conrad's real parents were edward and ruth beth krueger conrad. so it all added up. it all looked good. again, my father had the original application from 1967 from the college. he always wanted to find the truth with what happened with conrad. we were able to take that application and we found out randall filed for bankruptcy in 2014 in boston federal court. we were able to get those documents, and then we were able to match up signatures from that '67 application my father found of conrad and the 2014 boston court papers. >> wow. this really had kind of consumed your family. i mean, consumed your dad. he was working on it, but then i guess was this dinner conversation sometimes where you found yourself just as emnamore and committed after your dad's passing? >> i'm a boss now, so we have tons of cases and my dad wouldn't let the case go. up until his death, it is number one in his life, and the number one case he wanted solved. >> how gratifying is this for you? >> well, it's good. i'm happy my dad was the one that really solved this case. i have to give the credit to him. he was a career deputy u.s. marshal and very determined. the house in massachusetts that randall gave a deathbed confession that he was really conrad. >> what about his family? because he had a family who i imagine, i guess was enlightened then by you cracking the case or even his deathbed confession or did they know? >> well, i made calls to the conrad family, his brothers and sister advising them that we had found out where he was and what his name is now. the family that conrad had, and still lives under a fictitious name, it's not their fault. the family, the wife and the daughter, they're beside themselves, and they're really good people. at the end of the day, you know, they didn't know, you know, the true identity of their father and their husband. think about that. for 38 years, and i've never been one house where i saw so many bills piled up, bill after bill after bill after bill. not everything ends like the movies. he died of lung cancer, and died at i think a pretty young age and left his family broke with a fictitious last name. >> wow. what they must be going through. pete elliott, congratulations on having only resolution to the case that very much occupied your dad's efforts and yours as well. >> well, thank you. thank you for having me on. coming up, closing arguments in the kyle rittenhouse trial are to begin tomorrow. what both are expected to highlight next. oh...sh -shawn? yes. thank you. you're welcome. have a great day. if it's “that will leave a mark season,” it's walgreens season. to run a growing business, is to be on a journey. and along the ride, you'll have many questions. challenges. and a few surprises. ♪ but wherever you are on your journey. your dell technologies advisor is here for you - with the right tech solutions. so you can stop at nothing for your customers. diana defied her critics. people wanted her to shut up and go away. >> diana wanted to show her sons what the real world was like. she really shaped the men they would become, and in doing so, she changed the dire it's another day. 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>> yes, fred. i think what we're going to see from the prosecution is an attempt to remind the jurors that kyle rittenhouse was a teenager that crossed state lines with a weapon that he wasn't legally should have been in possession of, that he went to a business that he said he was there to protect, but the business had not invited him to be there, but he left the premises of that business, and he had no training in medical care, and he shot and killed two unarmed men, and that he wounded a third man, and that he inserted himself in this very volatile situation, and for the prosecution, they were given a lifeline, and this judge on friday allowed the jurors to hear lesser included charges and to get a jury instruction for provocation. this means the actions were set in motion by kyle rittenhouse and that undermines his self-defense. on the other hand, the defense will try to drive home that kyle rittenhouse was only responding to attacks that were made on him because he was in fear of his life. >> interesting, and they have two hours in which to do so. so you've laid it out. the prosecutors will talk about all the events leading up to the shooting deaths whereas the defense is likely to zero in on that moment when he was confronted or he confronted the -- the other demonstrators who were armed and able to say it was self-defense. so judge bruce schroeder is also under the microscope, right? he has been quite colorful as you always say, you know, in his demeanor, and i wonder how the jury will take that into consideration as they hear closing statements. some of which they didn't see, but then some that they did see and hear. >> yeah. what we know, fred, is that jurors watch everything in a courtroom. they watch the lawyers. they watch the parties, and of course, they watch the judge and they take their cues from this judge which is why this judge's behavior has been so disappointing. he has inserted himself into this trial in a way that you don't expect to see from judges, particularly an experienced judge like this judge. he's prone to histrionics, and he seems to love and crave the media attention, and i hope the jurors are able to separate his conduct, focus on the facts, focus on the law and render a decision in this case that is consistent with the facts. >> and in wisconsin, there are now authorized 500 troops to assist law enforcement in kenosha next week. there was some movement already in the latter part of last week. do you feel this is an appropriate indication of how things might go in terms of the expectations of the verdict either way? >> well, we've seen this before, fred, where governors move in the national guard in anticipation of what they think might be volatile and even violent protests. this case is a little interesting because i'm not sure if the governor is expecting those on the right, those conservative groups who were out on the night, proud boys and other conservative groups are going to protest in the event that kyle is found guilty on any of these charges, or if they are expecting protesters that were there supporting black lives matter to show up in the event that he's, you know, acquitted on all the charges. it's not really clear, you know, who they are expecting to show up and why they think those protesters, if any, might resort to violence. >> all right. areva martin, good to see you. thank you so much. >> thanks, fred. all right. still ahead, with the holiday season and colder temperatures right around the corner, how is the record u.s. inflation impacting food pantries and soup kit kitchens? we're live at one of new york's oldest homeless shelters next. you could wait... all night... for an email response from steve, who will sign back in at 9 am tomorrow morning. orrrr... you could find the answer right now in slack. and give steve a break. slack. where the future works. your shipping manager left to “find themself.” leaving you lost. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed 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those who can't afford those groceries right now are turning to charitable organizations for help. cnn's paolo sandoval is with us right now. >> reporter: all of us are very familiar right now with that rising price of just keeping food on the table, and for some of those organizations that are helping those communities, they are stuck in a struggle of their own here. we've heard of inflation and food supply shortages that many organizations are experiencing, and we're here in manhattan. they have been serving the needy for well over a hundred years, and they can say for sure they're having to do more with less this year. their nations are certainly down. their partners are having to spend more to contribute to organizations, and it's the hardest time during the year, obviously, getting ready for thanksgiving less than two weeks away, and folks are having to make sure they can feed the hungry, feed those that certainly rely on them, not only for the thanksgiving meal, but just year round altogether. i want you to hear directly from the organization ceo as he took us inside earlier today to show us how they're already prepping and having to do more with fewer resources this year. >> this year, for example, we received many, many fewer turkeys than we're used to for thanksgiving and so where we're used to distributing out an abundance of food to other partners in the community, this year we're very focused on those 1,000 people expecting that on thanksgiving day here at the mission. >> reporter: mr. winans touching on something that has americans worried. if they can find a turkey, they have to pay more for it. in short, this sums it up. they're usually able to overproduce those meals so they can satisfy those folks that turn to them year after year, but they can also spread the generosity to neighboring churches. this year, however, because of their limited stack or at least somewhat of a limited stock, they will now simply have to focus on those who usually show up at their doorstep come thanksgiving and hope they'll have a little bit extra to spread around. >> tough times for everyone across the board. polo sandoval in new york. all right, the rockefeller christmas tree, it's arrived in new york city. this year's tree is a 79-foot norway spruce weighing 12 tons. it will be illuminated by more than 50,000 color lights and topped with a swarovski star. the official lighting ceremony is on december 1st, and this year the tree comes from maryland which is the first time the rockefeller tree is from that state. all right. it's all said to be a fuller tree with more robust foliages as compared to the tree in 2020 which was a little on the skinny side. that's what the critics were saying and some said it was a metaphor for how 2020 was. all right. still ahead, an amazon delivery driver gets hit by a train and lives to tell the tale. it's an amazing story, next. i'll shoot you an estimate as soon as i get back to the office. hey, i can help you do 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conducted? >> a lot of it was just based on pure allegation. >> charlie, got a minute? >> your co-worker would go to your boss and say, i heard my co-worker went to a gay bar, and so that other employee would be called in and told, we have information indicating that you're a sexual deviant. so you have two options. you can either resign quietly and no one will ever know, or you'll have to be terminated and this will be on your record forever. >> joining us now, the host of "this is life," lisa ling. good to see you. so wow. i mean, how pervasive was this purging of gay people from u.s. government? >> well, in a word, extremely pervasive. you know, most americans know something about the red scare from history classes back in the day, a time during the late 1940s and '50s when the belief that communist agents were infiltrating our government was also pervasive. it was a movement also touched on by joseph mccarthy, but many people don't know that mccarthy also charged that the government had been infiltrated by homosexuals, and that they posed a threat that was equally as scary and as grave to our national security, and this fear that gay men and lesbians could be blackmailed into revealing state secrets resulted in a systematic campaign to identify and remove all government employees and those who were in the military suspected of being homosexuals, and this continued on for decades, fred. as you mentioned, and although they could never uncover a single example of a gay person, an american citizen who had betrayed the secrets of the united states government, as a result of what was called the lavender scare, tens of thousands of americans were purged from their government jobs and the united states military because they were suspected of being gay, and therefore a threat to >> i mean, tens of thousands. so the number is sizeable. and you talked to a number of people. did they ever get a chance, i guess, to challenge government? did they have any success in being able to reclaim their jobs that they were purged from? >> almost none of them were able to get their jobs back, especially in those early decades. and, really, the response from the victims' perspective was just devastating. the shame that so many of them carried after being fired continued on for years. i mean, in the 1950s, the term security risk applied. it was like virtual code for homosexuals. and the lavender scare lasted longer than the red square. >> that's extraordinary. lisa ling, we look forward to seeing the fuller picture. be sure to tune in this evening, an all-new episode of "this is life" airing tonight at 10:00 on cnn. queen elizabeth missed the remembrance day service day after straining her back. >> the queen pulled out of the remembrance day commemorations. she's effectively in too much pain to go there. we're told by a royal source that this is unrelated to the reason she's canceled other recent engagements. that was on medical advice that she needed to rest. it is a big moment for the queen not to arrive at this event. she's only missed it six times in her long reign, four times because she was traveling abroad and twice because she was pregnant. she is commander in chief of the armed forces. she served in the second world war so she wouldn't have pulled out of this lightly. and a royal source telling cnn the queen was deeply disappointed to miss one of the most significant engagements of the year. we are being reassured, though, the royal source telling cnn that the queen hopes to continue as planned with her schedule of light official duties next week. that is video calls carrying out engagements remotely, allowing her to carry out her crucial central constitutional role but without arriving in person, which clearly she's unable to do right now, and her doctors continue to advise her to rest as much as possible. max foster, cnn, hampshire, england. >> and don't forget a new episode of the cnn original series "diana" tonight at 9:00 right here on cnn. all right, you're not going to believe this one. an amazon driver may be the luckiest man alive. and this is the proof. just look at these pictures. this is what is left of evans' delivery truck after an amtrak train slammed into it. the impact split the van in half, left evans stunned still buckled in his seat. a cnn affiliate wisn talked with evans and asked what he felt at the moment of impact. >> i felt the air bags. i didn't know what to feel, to be honest with you. >> when all of us looked at that video and the aftermath, the photographs, we just couldn't believe you survived. >> i still can't believe right now myself as well. >> right. still stunned understandably. evans tells wisn, guess what, that he is deaf in one ear and didn't hear the train's horn at first. and he says the road parallels the track before the crossing, limiting the driver's view of the tracks. there are also no signals, no lights, or warning sounds at that crossing. and then, get this, the day of the wreck was his 33rd birthday. so, that's why he's the luckiest most blessed man alive right now. i'm fredricka whitfield. thanks so much for being with me. this weekend "cnn newsroom" news room continues with jim acosta in a moment. but first here's this week's "mission ahead." >> for decades, wind and solar had been the centerpieces of green energy. but the ocean's everconstant waves and tides are also rich in renewable power. off the coast of scotland, a company is trying to change that. its jumbo jet-sized floating platform called the o2 has two giant rotars that sit 60 feet below the surface of the water and had harness the energy of the ocean's tides. >> it's kinetic energy. it looks not too different to a wind turbine. >> but unlike wind turbines that have to accommodate for the wind coming from all directions, it only has to adjust to the tide. and tides are far more reliable than wind. >> you can connect those motions years and decades in advance. >> this is orbital's third tidal turbine system since 2012. the company says it generates up to two megawatts which is enough to power around 2,000 homes a year. the cost of operating it means that tidal energy comes at a premium. a hurdle for not only orbital but for the many other companies in the industry. so for now they're relying on government investment to help drive the price tag down. >> what we're really asking at this stage for policymakers here in the uk and around the world where there's tidal stream energy is make allowance for early-stage technology hopefully in the course of the next 10 or 15 years, not only will we be able to deploy hundreds of o2-style machines, but we'll be able to see that course of energy fall down to somewhere that's far more competitive. >> rachel crane, cnn. after pioneering photographic film, we made it our mission to help change the world... in healthcare, our imaging expertise and ai technology aims to help diagnose disease earlier. but why stop there? when we 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