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wants do in her life. >> stephanie elam, thank you so much. clearly the force behind her fans was pretty fierce. all right. hello again, everyone. thank you so much for joining me. i'm fredericka whitfield. we begin this hour with a trump ally in danger of going to jail after being indicted over a january 6th investigation. steve bannon will appear in court on monday and face criminal contempt charges. a former trump adviser has repeatedly refused to produce documents or appear before the committee concerning the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. bannon's attorney has stated his client would not be cooperating with the investigation into what happened that day because of executive privilege. cnn's kara scannell is following these developments for us. kara, steve bannon is expected to turn himself in, however, how defiant he has been. this occurred on monday. then what will happen. >> he'll face a judge where he's been charged with two counts of contempt of congress. one of those charges is his failure to appear for testimony and the other is failure to provide any documents in response to the house subpoena. the house initially subpoenaed him in september. they made a referral to the department of justice to hold him in contempt in october. we saw that yesterday. attorney general merrick garland issued a statement saying since the first day in office i promised the justice dpts employees we would show the american people by word and deed that the department adheres to the rule of law, follows the facts of the law, and pursues legal justice under the law. today marks the steadfast commitment to these principles. if convicted, bannon will face a minimum 306 days in jail and a maximum of one year. given that he has been indicted, it does not appear he'll be cooperating or participating as this plays out, and that could take many years. fred? >> so kara, bannon isn't the only one ignoring the committee's requests. this is going to send a strong message, won't it? >> oh, definitely. mark meadows was asked to appear yesterday and he refused. his lawyers said he would not cooperate with the investigation because of questions around executive privilege. they said that's something for the courts to decide. they issued a statement after that saying meadows would not answer the most basic questions including whether he was using private cellphones or emails on january 6th. they said this will force them to consider whether they will hold meadows in contempt. fred. >> all right. kara scannell, thank you so much in washington. for more on this, i'm joined now by michael, a former prosecutor and host of a podcast. so good to see you, michael. >> good to see you, fred. >> so bannon left the white house in 2017 at the time of the planning he's alleged to have been involved in of the january 6th insurrection. he was a private citizen. so he can't hide behind this consecutive privilege, can he? >> well, he can and he can't. the office of legal counsel and the justice department said the privilege can be extended to private citizens. we think of the kitchen cabinet that reagan had or vernon jordan and bill clinton had. those sort of policy communications between select private citizens on policy advice has been determined to be covered by privilege. in this case, bannon seems to have been giving political advice to candidate trump, which makes the allegation or the assertion of privilege much more tenuous. >> and you mean because the executive privilege is usually extended when it's a matter of, you know, the republic versus for an individual, and president in that kind of case would be the individual in him, not necessarily trying to protect the security of country. >> exactly. it's the preservation of the privilege of the office of the president in his capacity as president. here it seems that the advice that bannon was giving was political advice to candidate trump, which is separate from his role as president. so i think there's a distinction that can be drawn between policy and political advice to an individual candidate versus to the office of the president. >> would the same apply for the same mark meadows who was currently the chief of staff at the moment or haley man nayny who was working in the white house? would that same, i guess, explanation extend for them too? >> well, yes, but because they're working in the white house and especially meadows who was the chief of staff, really executive privilege is designed to protect the types of conversations between the chief officer trump and his chief counsel meadows. again, the question might be whether or not meadows was providing policy advice on the presidency or whether he was providing political advice to the candidate. that has to be fleshed out of the courts. in some measure, this is what bannon and meadows are saying, look, we don't know what the answers to these questions are, and until we do, until a court tells us to do that, then we can't -- we just can't show up because we don't know what the right answer is. >> so the bay day before the si on the capitol, bannon said this. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it's not going to happen like you think it's going happen, okay? it's going to be quite extraordinarily different. all i can say is strap in. the war room, a posse. you have made this happen. >> that would seem pretty incriminating. >> well, it sure shows prior -- implies prior knowledge of the siege of the capitol. it is stuff like that that the committee wants to get to the bottom of, and that doesn't in any way. >> why would you say that? what do you know? they want to ask those questions. what would you know that would allow you to conclude an outcome as ominous as you just painted. >> exactly. and that does not seem to involve executive privilege. the notion of planning an insurrection on the capitol doesn't have anything to do with the policy advice to the president or the office of the president. this stuff is all outside what is normally executive privileged conversation. so absolutely the house has an interested learning about this stuff so they can make preparation legislatively to ensure this does not happen again. >> thus far, bannon has exhibited quite the allegiance to trump. now he's going to to be in court on monday, looking at a maximum of one year in prison for each. might that compel him in your view to flip? >> a normal person might say it's time for me to cooperate once the court orders me to cooperate and that i will protect my interests, my liberty, my family's interest, before i have loyalty, especially to a guy who now can't pardon me. but bannon is not a normal guy in my definition, so it's really hard to predict what he will do. >> all right. michael zeldin, good to see you. thank you so much. >> good to see you. thanks, fred. aside from the bannon indictment, former president trump did score a few big legal victories on friday. a new york judge granted trump a motion to dismiss michael cohen through the trump organization. cohen occurred fines in lawsuits. trump also avoided strong sit for a deposition in a defamation lawsuit filed by a former cont contestant. she decided to drop her lawsuit against him for sexually assaulting her. still ahead, vice president kamala harris just wrapped up a trip to harris, hoping to mend a relationship with one of the united states' most crucial allies. plus, surging prices everywhere right as the holidays are approaching. what's behind the rising inflation, and what products are being affected the most? 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>> it's about support and alignment and that will continue. >> reporter: but it's theics that defined harris's trip. >> how are you? >> reporter: signaling a relationship back on track as flattery flowed both ways. >> i wanted to thank vice president harris for her presence. french people are extremely proud to have you. >> i enjoyed the few minutes that we've had so far in this tour. >> reporter: meanwhile a visit to the cemetery serve as a powerful reminder of shared sacrifice. >> if there is any question about the why or the what in terms of our relationship as the united states with france, that is one visual and concrete example of the endurance and mutual commitment and interdependence between the united states and france. >> reporter: jeremy diamond, cnn, traveling with the vice president in paris. all right. coming up, the praise ice of ju about everything is up. what's behind the spike and will there be any reprieve for your wallet. kevin! kevin? kevin. oh nice. kevin, where are you? 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for sure. >> do you believe the president when he says he believes his economic plans will help ease inflation. >> i do, but, again, it depends on timing. when you think about build back better and better infrastructure, which we absolutely need, better ports, better roads, better bridges, better trains, all of that is going to ease congestion in the short-term, but longer term, that's innationary. for the president, it's really tricky. in the mid tefrms we may see higher pricings, and that puts political pressure on him. there will be trade-offs in the short term. >> oh, my goodness. so the fred real reserve says inflation is still transitory. is that another way of saying while it may continue to spike a little bit longer for a good amount of time as you put it, it will still be a long way to go before we start seeing those prices drop again? >> well, you know, it's always interesting decoding fedspeak. what we're saying is we don't think we're in the '70s. this will eventually ease, but we don't know when. they're always trying to buy a little wiggle room when they try to raise interest rates. we've had a long period of interest rates which creates inflationary pressure. you think how low interest rates are for mortgages right now. a lot of people have bought housing. that raises housing prices. the fed is saying we're watching this carefully and we're not going to take any sudden action, but eventually we'll raise rates. >> that word "transitory" is a really non-committal word. i'm trying to figure out what does that mean for the bottom line. all right. vrana foroohar, thank you so much. good to see you. one of the places we're all seeing inflation, yes, is at the grocery store. we need our groceries. jeff for food statements, milk is up 4%. meat is up almost 15%. eggs, nearly 12%. joining us right now we love do-to-have our stu leonard, and he always has a great smorgasbord to help tell the story. he's the ceo of grocery stores across three states. always great to see you and see your selections. >> how are you doing, fredericka? >> we're doing good. oh, my gosh, it's making it so hold for households having to pick and choose due to the bottom line of how much things are or because they're not on store shelves. talk about the spike in prices over the last year. what are you seeing? what is more expensive today than last year at about this time in your store? >> well, i think when you look -- and rana had some good points there. when you look at the total cost of your thanksgiving meal, it's the least excessive holiday of the year because you're paying $2 or so a pound per turkey, so i wouldn't have people panic this is really going to impact their wallet. you mentioned transportation costs. you can buy locally. and one of the things we've done, we've found some of our larger turkey producers. they're sending turkeys to us. when you think about it, you have to think about how many turkeys to raise in january. just think of it, in a few weeks, turkey producers have to predict how many turkeys they'll need for 2022. you throw the dart. a lot threw their dart a little low. they didn't think the economy would be this good. customers are ready to celebrate. we're seeing that here at stew leo leonard. >> this was going to be a problem because last year there was a surplus and turkeys have to be a ripe age to be the best product, so that setback caused real problems this year. you're saying if you stick with local, you'll have a better shot of getting a bird on your table? >> that's what we did. we went through -- when we got shorted by our large company, we went to one of our local farmers that we have, and we got plenty of turkeys. we're going sell 70,000 turkeys this year, and i promise -- i promised our customers, i guarantee you a turkey. now, if you wait till tuesday to buy it before thanksgiving, you might not get the size you want. >> let's talk about the size right now. sizes are so important. for a thanksgiving meal, both apple pie and biscuits are up right now more than 6%, for example. do you feel like people are making different adjustments? we see the graphics, are people making different adjustments about their menu because of what it's going to cost them? >> you know, fredericka, i think that's a good point. you may not find the brand that you want, but you are going to find cranberry sauce. you will find a pie. you're going to find everything you need in the stores right now. and the other thing you can do is make a lot of it yourself. i mean we have this dinner for eight right here, right? it's $175. do you know how much it was last year? $175. >> really? >> that's just a little less than $22 a head. this price hasn't changed right here. some of our costs have gone up. we're a family business. i'm not public. we're going to absorb some of it. i've worked with our farmers and ranchers to split the cost, which they've agreed to. we're trying to hold the prices down. if you shop smart, make your own product at your house rather than buy it prepared -- i probably shouldn't be saying that, but like we do here at the store, you can economize this holiday. you won't feel that sticker shock. >> i like your portions there. if that's a meal for eight, that means nice healthy generous portions. i like that. you can do it yourself, but at the same time you're making it easier on your customers because you'll prepare stuff too. >> fredericka, i think it's going to cost people more to drive to their thanksgiving meal than it will be for the price increase of the actual food. >> that is true. so what about this global supply chain issue, particularly with, you know, shipping just not getting from -- whether it be from coast to coast or around the world to, you know, your warehouses. how much of an imfact is that making? does it mean that you have bare shelves like i'm seeing in a lot of grocery stores? >> well, one thing is we've lined a lot of this up in advance. our warehouses are filled with product. so a lot of it is preplanning. if you haven't preplanned, you're going to be in trouble. that's why i think a lot of local independent supermarkets have done a good job at this. you know, i think -- i'd shop local right now. i think the big chains have massive distribution problems ge getting things off containers and out of distribution warehouses. we buy direct from the farmers, so the supply chain issue isn't as much. but i would say, i think right now there's two factors with the cost going up. one of them is the disruption of supply because nobody -- there is a supply-and-demand issue going on right now. people want more center cut rib eye steaks than our ranchers have produced, but i think there are things that have happened we've had to raise our rates, that's going to stay. i can't retract that after the holiday. >> well, you've offered some great incentives. >> the supply-and-demand half is going to be fuel costs and transportation costs have gone up. >> no matter what the issue is, stew leonard, you always give us a full conversation. >> you have a great thanksgiving and be safe and i wish everybody a happy holiday. >> thank you so much. stew leonard, happy holidays in advance. we really appreciate you. >> thank you, fredericka. thereafter make cost you a little more this year, but macy's parade? 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>> reporter: yeah, fred. we are hearing about just really awful details in a timeline from the houston fire department throughout that day, 12 hours-plus of chaos. we're also hearing audio from the police department describing those 911 calls and the help that people needed. now, you probably saw a hearse leaving this funeral home for brianna rodriguez. more folks were standing outside waiting to pay their respects. one of the persons i talked to was her friend who was at astroworld with her. one of the last things she said to him was i can't breathe. among those in attendance was representative sheila jackson lee. she said this about what she'd like to see an investigation. >> i think it's important that the answers come to the families as quickly as possible. i think that whatever resources that we can provide to ensure that the layers of participants are thoroughly investigated, what should be our goal for this to never happen again? don't day joy and turn it into something else. >> reporter: i want to show you a little bit of a time line we're receiving from the houston fire department just to show you how long this went on that day. as early as 9:20 in the morning there were people breaching barricades in multiple locations. the venue gates actually didn't open until 10:00 a.m., but you could see before that, they were already requesting medical help for several individuals. and continuing throughout the day you see other reports of 100 people at a time, 150 people at a time rushing different gates. by 5:00 p.m. we're seeing that 26,000 people were screened through security, but there were a good 3,000 to 5,000, they said, that were actually not scanned. by 4:00 p.m. that day, we also saw a report that 54 patients had been treated by that point. then you get into the evening hours. you have more people rushing different areas. and by 9:00 p.m. the quote on the timeline says, this is when it all got real. have the police department reporting multiple people passed out at the front of a stage, and at 9:32, report of unconscious female in the middle of the crowd, and then reports of several 911 calls about people unconscious, people trampled, people having a hard time breathing, and police saying it was dangerous even for them to go into this crowd to assist because there was a definite risk of officers getting injured as well, fred. >> terrible sequence of events. thank you so much, natasha chen. appreciate that. all right. still ahead, it is the moment of truth for our planet. that's the plea from the chief of the u.n. climate change conferences. he urges global leaders to issue a draft climate agreement. details on that straight ahead. 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onfield officials, criticized team drafting an openly gay player and used a racial slur when referring to commissioner roger goodell. he used racially incensive language regarding damoris smith. the nfl and commissioner leaked the emails as part of a malicious and orchestrated campaign, unquote, to destroy gruden's career, his attorney saying there is no justification for why gruden's emails were the only ones made public in the 650,000 e-mails collected during the investigation of the washington football team or why the emails were held for months before being released in the middle of the raiders' season. unquote. goodell suggested they would make other documents public if the raiders didn't fire gruden and says gruden mass quote covered severe financial daniels and harm to his career and reputation as a result of their actions. an nfl spokesman tells cnn allegations are meritless and that the nfl will vigorously defend itself, fred, against these claims. >> coy wire, thank you so 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