the backdrop of this trial from the defense tenth witness drew hernandez on the streets of kenosha on the night of the shooting. >> have you ever posted anything on social media in support of kyle rittenhouse? >> one could argue, yes. >> reporter: it was a recurring theme brought about by the prosecution. >> your videos you've captured of these incidents you call riots, they're very slanted against the people who are rioting. you characterize them as antifa, black lives matter rioters, correct? >> because they're rioting in the footage, yes. >> reporter: hernandez was called by the defense largely to draw contrast between joseph rosenbaum, the first killed by rittenhouse in august 2020 in the aftermath of protests in kenosha. >> rosenbaum was charging kyle rittenhouse from that. >> did you hear that realtime? >> hear it and saw it in realtime. >> reporter: compared with kyle rittenhouse. >> did you observe him acting in an aggressive manner to anyone you observed? >> in no way, shape or form. the first time i saw kyle he de-escalated the situation. >> reporter: an objection led the judge to admonish the prosecution for the second consecutive day. >> i'm a little bit challenged when -- is there something i'm saying that draws the face you're making? >> i have to say, your honor, yesterday i was the target of your ire for disregarding your orders. today the defense is disregarding your order. >> reporter: the day began with establishing a meticulous time line of what happened, looking at slowed down video of the moments in and around the shootings that night including the second set of shots fired that began with the still unidentified person known in court as jump kick man. testimony from a use of force expert called by the defense. >> what occurred first? a kick to the face by jump kick man to my client or the first gunshot? >> based on my analysis the kick to the face occurred prior to the gunshot. >> reporter: those shots missed. the next ones to the chest of anthony huber would be deadly. and then the shot to the arm of gage grosskreutz. all of it shortly after the four shots that killed joseph rosenbaum. >> can you tell us the amount of time that passes between the first shot, observation number 8, to joseph rosenbaum, and the final shot to mr. grosskreutz. >> approximately 1 minute, 20 seconds. >> in that approximately 1 min minute and 20 seconds the defendant fires all eight shots. >> reporter: a day after rittenhouse's at time emotional account of that day gage grosskreutz, the only survivor of that shot that night felt it wasn't genuine. >> to me it felt like a child who had just gotten caught doing something he wasn't supposed to, more upset that he was caught and less upset about what he had done and what he had taken and the numerous lives that he affected. >> reporter: omar jimenez, cnn, kenosha, wisconsin. >> now i want to turn to the trial of the three men who shot and killed ahmaud arbery, a 25-year-old unarmed black man who was out jog. cnn's martin savidge is covering the story for us and joins us live this evening. today we heard testimony from the owner of the under construction home that has been the central focus of this case. what did we learn? >> reporter: you know, it's interesting, don. the entire day of day five of testimony was consumed by the interview and testimony of just one man. but this one man is a crucial witness. but what's also interesting is that he could be a crucial witness not just for the prosecution. he could be a crucial witness for the defense as well. but today he was testifying on behalf of the state. and key testimony. take a listen. a key witness on the stand. larry english, jr. owns the hominid construction in sutilla shores that would become a source of concern and tension in the neighborhood. the same home ahmaud arbery is seen visiting and running off from the day he's killed. >> is that a fair and accurate representation of your house? >> yeah. >> reporter: in testimony recorded in september due to health reasons english says he placed security cameras at the property because it was normal for people to come and go from a construction site, and he worried about liability. his cameras captured people on the property several times in late 2019 and early 2020. on october 25, 2019, english sees a black male on the property and calls 911. >> a colored guy, he's tattooed down both arms. >> you ever see that person take anything that night? >> no. >> did you ever see anything in his hands, bag or any sort of things on him? >> no. >> reporter: the same male is seen several times visiting the property at night. but over and over on the witness stand english was asked the same thing. >> was anything ever taken? >> reporter: instead english said he believed at the time it was an unidentified white couple on the property that was responsible for items missing from his boat, something he told police in this 911 call. >> it was a male and a female. >> reporter: three white men, gregory mcmichael, his son travis and william brian, jr. are accused of chasing arbery, a 25-year-old black man in vehicles and killing him in their neighborhood last year. defense attorneys say they were trying to make a citizens arrest of arbery who they suspected of burglarizing a home. as he did on the witness stand english told cnn he never believed arbery had taken anything. >> do you believe that arbery stole anything from your house that day? >> none, whatsoever. >> reporter: but on cross-examination the defense argued english has changed his story after receiving death threats and that he originally did see the black male on the property as a threat and suggested the same to police and neighbors in sutilla shores. >> that's not what you told the police, is it? >> reporter: on february 23, 2020 ahmaud arbery was spotted inside the same hominid construction. he was not seen just by surveillance cameras but also a neighbor who called 911. it would be that sighting moments later which would trigger a deadly confrontation. >> this is another example, don, of how the state is methodically trying to take apart one of the key pillars of the defense here. and they're, of course, blaming these three men they were trying to make a citizens arrest because they thought there was a burglary that had taken place at larry english's property. but larry english with his testimony today is essentially saying there was no crime in my home. don? >> martin, i want to ask you about there's a shocking moment that defense attorney kevin goff who represents william brian, jr. objecting to civil rights leaders attending the trial to support arbery's family. talk to me about that. >> reporter: yeah. kevin goff is known for his off-the-cuff statements and statements that hardly seem like they are or should be made in a court of law. so today it was actually during a break from the testimony you were just watching that outside of the jury -- the jury was not in yet -- kevin goff gets up and he says, your honor, i'm really concerned. and then he launches into what is almost a kind of legal rant. he was upset, he said, because he had realized the reverend al sharpton it been in the public seating area of the trial the day before. it wasn't like he recognized it on the day of. no, this is after the fact. and he was very upset that he thought it could influence the jury. here's the statement. >> we're going to start a precedent starting yesterday we're going to bring high profile member of it african-american community into the courtroom to sit with the family during the trial in the presence of the jury. i believe that's intimidating and it's an attempt to pressure, could be consciously or unconsciously an attempt to pressure or influence the jury. we don't want anymore black pastors coming in here other jessie jackson whoever was in here earlier this week sitting with the victim's family trying to influence a jury in this case. a. >> okay, that's when the judge cut him off right at the knees because no one knew where he was going with the colonel sanders thing. and quite frankly what appears to be a person who has no understanding of the parameters of this case, it is all about race. it's three white men accused of the murder of a black man who was doing nothing more than jogging. and here is kevin goff getting up in this court setting and saying we don't need anymore black pastors, which is almost implying like, we don't need anymore of those rabble-rousers in this community. and remember, this case is being tried in a jury that is predominantly white. it went over awful in court and the judge was glad to move on. >> feels like the 1950s. and by the way can you confirm jessie jackson was not in the courtroom and he said that. >> no, he was not. not at all. >> marty, always a pleasure, sir. thank you. joining me now the former mayor of baltimore stephanie rowelings blake, also a former defense attorney. good to see you, mayor. thank you so much for doing this. >> good to be with you. >> yes. race was already a major factor in this case. what did you think when you heard that comment about not having anymore black pastors in the court? >> if there was ever a doubt of the feeling of this defense team, this notion that they get it, that their clients are being seen as racist, they're being seen as, you know, they are confederate sympathizers. and i think the defense attorney's statements today are consistent with that, which is really sad in today's time. >> testimony wrapped up in the kyle rittenhouse trial today in kenosha, wisconsin. we could see the jury's decision as soon as next week. did rittenhouse's lawyers in your estimation make the case he was acting in self-defense? >> the defense attorneys for kyle rittenhouse made a big gamble, and i think it was a big risk and a big pay off. they gave him a chance to be empathetic, to be seen as an empathetic person in the minds some of the jury. and understand he doesn't have to get all 12 of these jurors to believe as some people say his crocodile tears. all it takes is one good soap opera fan, and they might believe, you know, his -- some people are saying his performance. >> yeah. when you -- let's look at these two cases together. quite a stark contrast of how a young black man and a young white man can be treated in this country. >> the problem with race in this country is on full -- that is on trial when you take a look at these cases. the fact that in one case you have someone who is willing to put their life on the line with an automatic weapon to protect property that's not even his, and then you have the same thing with the ahmaud arbery trial. you know, when you also have these same individuals talking about how they'll do anything to fight and protect life when it comes to, you know, a woman's right to choose yet they're so willing to cast aside the life of a black man in this country. >> i want to turn now to the astro world tragedy because i know you have knowledge about this. a ninth person is now dead after sustaining injuries at the concert. you've spent time with travis scott in the past few days. what is he saying, mayor? >> he's devastated. i spent time with him and his team the last two days and he's simply devastated. when the news came of the latest death, he is -- he's mortified. and he is so determined to make sure that something like this never happens again. and that's why i'm trying to be helpful because i know that there were lots of institutions that had to break down in order for something like this to happen. there are so many people, institutions that are responsible for safety on the ground. and what we know for sure is it's never an entertainer's job to plan security, plan the layout, plan emergency management, emergency response, none of those things. and my goal is to work with him so that we can put things in place so that no one else loses their life when they are enjoying what should have been the time of their life. >> as you know there's been a discussion about what has happened before, about travis being arrested twice for inciting crowds at previous concerts. he pleaded guilty to charges stemming from an incident in 2015 and 2017. there's a 2015 gq interview, and i quote here and it's how to rage. he said he wanted his concerts to feel like high energy wrestling matches. you said it's not on the entertainer, but is he thinking about how the culture of his concerts could possibly be putting fans in danger? >> what we know is he's done over 300 concerts. i think about 50 astro worlds. something like this has never happened at one of those big shows. in the past he did plead guilty because he knew the power of his words -- he learned the power of his words. and we're talking something that was like five or six years ago. what i saw, what i spoke to him was a person who's mature, who understands. he has stopped his own shows to check on his fans in the past subsequent to those incidents because he knows that he wants people to have a great time but he also wants people to be safe. so to have something like this happen in the city that he love, a city he's dedicated so much time and his effort to make better, he's really -- his heart is broken for the families. >> did he talk about why he didn't stop this one? because that's the question if he's stopped them before, why didn't he stop this one? i don't know what he saw, but there's videotape of people saying stop the concert and so on. go on. >> right, so i was saying, you know, i mention that he stopped the concert before because when he saw and knew that there was a problem before he stopped the concert before. he said very clearly to me when i spoke to him that he could not see what was going on. >> he's wearing an earpiece so no one told him in his earpiece? >> he's connected to the concert. he wasn't connected to security. and the fact of the matter is 20 minutes after the first incident you see on tape police officers standing in front of him, members of the, you know, high ranking members of the police department who had the same vantage point he has and they couldn't see what was going on. so this notion he had an earpiece that was connected to, you know, the fire marshal or the police department is just not true. he didn't know what was going on at the time. neither did the police officers and public safety individuals who were right there where he was. and that's a tragedy that he wants to -- >> where's that break down then, mayor? because you know people are going to say. if something goes wrong on this show it doesn't matter if it's a producer or rioter or production assistant. they're going to say it's don lemon's fault. and as the head of the show i have to take that. they're going to say it is travis' fault. what was the break down? why wasn't there communication with the -- you know, with the safety people, law enforcement, the medical people? there was no -- why wasn't there a way for people to say there's an issue in the back of the crowd or stage right or stage left or in section four, stop the concert or -- i don't know. it just seems -- why not? >> you know, the deal is, don, that it's not his fault. but he wants to take responsibility on making sure this doesn't happen again. what you talked about, those break downs in security, we need to figure out what that is. like houston is a beautiful city that has huge events all the time. there are cities around this country that want to make sure they can have these type of concerts, high energy where people can enjoy themselves and do it in safety. that's why i'm working with him and working to put some best practices in place so this doesn't happen again. >> what's his demeanor like? what's the last couple of days, how's it been for him? >> i was -- i was awe-struck by his overwhelming sadness. this is a person who loves his fans and who loves his city and who is devastated to his core that something like this happened at his show. >> mayor, thank you. i appreciate your candor and thank you for coming on. i'll talk to you soon. we'll continue to talk about this. thank you very much. and tell travis he can come on and speak whenever it's time. thank you so much. >> i will. >> an ultimatum for the former white house chief of staff appear before the january 6th committee tomorrow or risk criminal contempt. and a delaying tactic buys the former president time, but what will it all mean for the investigation? 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do you think he's going to be held in contempt? >> well, so first, what meadow's lawyer said in response was it's not fair that biden makes the decision when other presidents haven't. that's a really weak position. and if the judge's ruling holds up and it should that says it is the current officeholder who gets to decide not the previous one, then meadows will be on very weak ground. i agree with john he'll do anything and everything he can. but if we pause it that the other case moves expeditiously and holds definitively, there is no executive privilege here, then he doesn't have a leg to stand on. and it's not just the documents. you know, testimony of a recalcitrant witness is not very often illuminating. it can be grudging. it can be squirrely, but he'll still have to talk. i think it's now become all kind of coordinated or aligned with the opinion working its way up now into the d.c. circuit because that will be the cleanest way. if it really establishes no executive privilege, get out of here. then the meadows, bannens and clarks of the world are in a very different position including in criminal contempt because there's no intent issue at all. they're just dead to rights. >> so, john, also tonight we want to talk about the federal appeals court pausing that release of trump's white house records. but it's just temporary, so now what? >> well, there's a panel of the d.c. circuit court of appeals which appears to be one that lines up well for the -- for the congress in the attempt to get these records. these are all democratic appointed judges including one appointed by president biden himself. so if that case is decided expeditiously then -- and the supreme court does not decide to take up the case, then you could have this happen very quickly. i'm sure the trump team counts on the hope that the supreme court stacked with several trump appointees might ultimately indicate their position. but as harry indicated it's not a particularly strong position given that donald trump's not president anymore. and so i think the prevailing assumption is that sooner or later they're going to get those documents. the problem with the delay strategy of the trump team is you've only got about a year in all likelihood given the political dynamics that democrats will control the house. ando they're trying to slow it down as much as possible. >> harry, i've got ten seconds, really. i'll give you the last word. >> that is the big if. kinzinger said it, john, too. the d.c. circuit will hold and then go to supreme court. if they even take the case they're out until june and it's too late. that's the question will the court take it out to december? 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but there's almost zero that a president can do to fix this kind of inflation, right? it's a supply-demand thing. it's a thing out of his control. we were pent-up in the pandemic and now we just want to buy stuff and the supply chain is messed up and consumer demand. and there's not much the president can do up to and including make the ports work 24 hours. he's doing with it as a political problem. the place you have to look is for consumers. and when we finally feel we've had enough and the fed stral bank and the federal reserve and the treasury secretary yellin they're banking on next year. it's going to be a while. >> you interviewed her. i want to play a part of it. >> if this turns out to be something that's endemic in the 1970s we saw supply shocks turn themselves into endemic inflation. we're not seeing that now. i don't believe we will, but if that were the case the federal reserve would have a role to play to keep it under control. >> look, i'm old enough to remember those days. a lot of people are asking why the fed isn't acting right now. should they be? >> no, i don't think they should be. i think the fed should be waiting to see if this once in a lifetime pandemic works its way through and that's going to take a while. as soon as he sees indications it's not transitory, that it's not going to just go through the system, then he's going to raise interest rates. i promise you he's going to do that. yellin told me that the other day and everybody i think just needs to hang on for a second and see what happens. >> we're not going to go back to gas lines are we and odd and even? >> it was a different kind of shock in the '70s. we're having the supply shock now but it was a different shock back then. >> so he wrote books so children of color could see themselves in books they read, so kids could see diversity on their shelves. then his books were banned. the author of "new kid" here next. good choice! it is. so is screening for colon cancer. when caught in early stages, it's more treatable. hey, cologuard! hi, i'm noninvasive and i detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers even in early stages. early stages. it's for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider if cologuard is right for you. 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>> well, the threats are both internal and is domestic and foreign. and we coauthored an op-ed in "the washington post" today that kind of dwelled on the foreign aspects of this. so as we assault our voting apparatus and the right to vote and all this sort of thing, that generates a vulnerability and a weakness that foreign adversaries most notably russia and probably china will exploit. so the point here is this is a serious national security implications as we consume ourselves with the polarization and divisiveness particularly as it effects our very democracy. >> and you mentioned it's general michael hayden from "the washington post" about this information. you say a society struggling to separate fact from fiction is a perfect environment for these actors to further erode electoral trust and kick democracy into a death spiral. those are really strong words. this information is coming from the gop. it is coming from russia. where else can it come from? >> well, any other adversary particularly those who have gone to school on what the russians did starting with our election in 2016. and as i've spoken before, don, we discussed this. this country has a bad case of what's called truth decay. and that is fundamentally corrosive to a democracy. and that's what the letter was getting at about the corrosive effects of not being able to agree on a set of facts. >> you talk about how bad actors could use these election fraudits to their advantage and you write this. you say they might also seek to take advantage of the exposure of sensitive information about election equipment or voter data that resulted from recent hyper-partisan election veus such as arizona's. what could our foreign adversaries do with that kind of information, sir? >> well, they could mip the outcome of an election. particularly if they do gain access into the actual, you know, voter mechanics and voter machines and this sort of thing. so if they want to affect an election through tentacle means, quite apart, by the way, from what they do in the way of social media to push a particular agenda, well, that is really fundamentally dangerous to our -- to our electoral process. and that is fundamental to our democracy. >> today as i mentioned is veterans day. we're honoring all those who fought to protect this country and our democracy. what message are we sending to them if we can't protect our most fundamental right? >> well, i'm one of those who spent a lot of time in my professional life defending the country. and i think this is a great concern to veterans as a group. the sacrifices of veterans and their families have made some many, of course, paid the u ultimate sacrifice to preserve those very institutions of this country that have made this up until this point the experiment in democracy flourish. and that's in jeopardy. and i think the message here to the public is that veterans have a big stake in this, in the outcome of whether or not we preserve our democracy as we've known it. >> again, thank you for your service and say hello to general hayden and to mrs. clapper. and you have really great taste in ties. i like that one, but i have to tell you i told director clapper i liked his tie when he was on the show and it showed up in the mail. you're a good man. >> all right, don. you've got a great memory. >> have a good night, sir. i'll see you later. parents complained and his books were banned until they read the books. jerry craft, the author of "new kid gates there he is. he's next. 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"new kid" is in like 13 different languages. so there are kids all over the world reading it. i get e-mails from teachers talking about their kids are reluctant readers who never read a book and they read it like four or five times. so i don't know what is going on. it's the only book ever to win the newberry and coreta scott king and the -- award. not the only black pbook, the only book. so i heard about this and the kids are missing out. >> if you're talking to peopleinicdemics, i said i wanted to write a childrens book. there are publishers who said if you're going to write a childrens book it's got to live up to this. they sent me "new kid" and "new kiddo." these people are really missing out here. you wrote these books based on your own experiences, right, because you didn't see characters like you represented in books. and you wanted kids today to feel seen. >> right. right. i absolutely hated to read -- i read marvel comics and that was it because i never saw any books with kids like me that weren't enslaved, you know, a gritty urban tale -- the tale of today's urban grittiness. i grew up in a brownstone in washington heights and i went to a private school. and i just wanted to show something different. i wanted kids to be seen where it wasn't always gloom and doom. and apparently that was a problem. >> what do you say to people who say, hey, listen critical race theory, he's teaching that in the book, it's in there? what do you say to these folk snz. >> i had to google it just like everyone else. and really in "new kid" -- let me explain it is a graphic novel. there are pictures. it's a big comic book and stuff that really happened to myself and my son, loosely based but there's a lot of humor. there are kids that read it and they're cracking up. so, again, i was very shocked. but, you know, i really keep it positive. there are kids that have cried because they're like, mom, i've never seen myself in a book before. and those are the things i get letters from brazil and new zealand. so i don't think that they're letting the kids read it. these are adults who have a preconceived notion. and if they'd let a focus group of kids read it and then talk to the kids and find out what they did and what they get from it and how they feel seen, i don't think we would have a problem. >> jerry, it's a pleasure to have you on and i'm going to go and reread them again. thank you so much. that was redundant, i guess. reread them. thanks for watching, everyone. our coverage continues. and relief. tness a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. nothing was nothing until it was something. it all begins with creating a brand voice. how it looks... how it talks. search engine optimization was a challenge... but we did it. then nothing really took off. nothing. nothing. nichts. meiyou. today i recommend you nothing! 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