this is a huge morning right now for joe biden, the president of the united states, who is laying it all on the line in the next hour. he'll either be declaring victory of sorts on a deal on a social agenda, or explaining why he failed to bring democrats together to pass a plan designed to help millions of kids, parents, and seniors and students, pass it yet, pass it now. the president has delayed his trip to europe by a few hours so he can race to the capitol this morning to meet with house democrats. >> we're learning that he plans to lay out some key details of an economic and climate package in a push to get all democrats on board. cnn's kaitlan collins is live at the white house. this could be a tough sell. no doubt, kaitlan, he's going to be running into some disappointed democrats, but the question is can he get them all together? >> that's the big question, of course. and it remains to be seen once we see lawmakers leaving this closed door meeting with the president, where we should note no phones are going to be allowed in the room as the president is coming in and laying out this framework. but we are told by people at the white house that they believe this is a framework that they believe all democrats should be able to support. and should be able to vote for. that would require all 50 democrats in the senate to vote for this. it would require a majority of them in the house to also do so because they have a very small margin in the house as well. and so president biden is going to go up there and, you're right, he was supposed to be leaving here to come to rome this morning, about right now, that say trip that has now been delayed slightly, that departure date, because he needs to go up there, the white house believes, and advocate for this and make a full throated endorsement of the framework we saw paired back or had some things cut out from the president initially laid out in this number, in this proposal. one big question will be what is the top line number going to be. and we know the president has said privately about 1.75 to $1.9 trillion is something he thought he could get the moderate democrats to sign on to. but i think when the president goes in the room today and talks about what is in this framework, maybe he doesn't get into the specifics, but he will be trying to get those progressive members on board with this, and also on board with that infrastructure vote, which they have said they want an agreement, potentially some of them want a vote on this bigger package before they agree to vote for the infrastructure package. so that is where the president is right now. so, of course, he's going to go up there, make this case, then he'll be speaking publicly about what he's told lawmakers before he does leave to come to rome. and we know that this is something that the white house has said they wanted before he left for this trip. he wanted an agreement because in his eyes as he told democrats privately, he believed the prestige of the united states was on the line if they did not get an agreement. and you've seen officials tamp down those expectations in recent days saying these other world leaders he's going to be meeting with understand there are domestic politics at play, but it does really remain to be seen because what we're told is despite him going up there, announcing this framework, there is no final deal yet, no -- not all democrats have signed off on this. that is what he's going to be trying to get when he goes up to the hill the next hour. >> we'll see if he can get that. kaitlan, thank you so much for that report. >> maybe we'll get more information right now on whether or not he can. joining me is democratic congressman steny hoyer of maryland, the house majority leader. i appreciate you being with us. 56 minutes from now the president's coming to see you. what is your understanding of what he's bringing? >> well, first of all, let me apologize for my voice. i've been talking to a lot of people. i got a real hoarse voice. but having said that, i expect the president to come up here and talk about his confidence that we're going to pass both a bill that deals with the human infrastructure, children, healthcare, workers, the environment, as well as urge passage of the infrastructure bill. now, i don't know the specifics, because i wasn't at the white house last night, when final details are hopefully final details were put together. but i expect the president to urge us to pace the infrastructure bill and expect him to say he believes and is confident that we can pass the build back better cares act. >> in your mind, is today the day that democrats need to get on board? >> well, today is the day that i think the president is going to urge us to get on board, and i hope that what he has to say will give confidence to our progressives that in fact the objectives we all want to accomplish of helping millions and millions of americans have a better life, access to healthcare, better environment, and better infrastructure investment, competitive in the 21st century, i hope we will be convinced by what the president tells us and we'll give confidence to people to vote for the infrastructure bill with the expectation that the build back better cares bill will in fact be passed by the united states senate as well as the house of representatives. >> it appears you lost your voice trying to convince progressives to get on board with this. let me tell you what cnn has new reporting this morning, a source close to progressives is saying, quote, we are told that the two senators have loosely said it is okay to a very general broad framework, but they will not yet commit to voting for the bill and that there are still open questions on various pieces and then say this is exactly why we need legislative text and all the parties fully agree to that bill text. they want more than a framework, they want text. what is your message to those potential holdouts this morning? >> i think the president is going to be the best informer of what he believes can and will be done. and i think we ought to have faith in the president's judgment. this is a program very important to him, it is his vision that he expressed during the course of the campaign, and i would hope that all democrats would follow the president's lead if you give the confidence that both of these -- with the infrastructure bill is going to pass in my opinion at some point in time, but also that the build back better act will be able to be passed through the united states senate. that's what our progressives -- and i hope the president convinces them that in fact that will happen, so they'll have the confidence to vote for the infrastructure bill. >> paid family leave, which is important to all kinds of people, many people, vast majority of americans according to polls, is it out of this plan? >> well, it appears to be, but i don't know -- i can't answer that specifically, clearly one of the united states senators joe manchin has indicated he does not favor that program. let me tell you, rather than focusing what's not in the program, it is an extraordinary fulsome program in terms of child care, in terms of home care, 2.5 or 2.2 million americans who don't yet have health insurance because medicaid was not extended to them in their states, they're going to be included in the ability to get healthcare, clean energy. $555 billion or about a third of the program as i understand it is dedicated to energy, clean energy and getting us to the objectives the president wants so that we can address substantial global warming. so looking at what's in the bill is, i think the thing that we all ought to do. there are obviously things that are not in the -- you go from 3.5 down to 1.75 or 2 trillion. obviously everything is not in the bill. but what is in the bill is so important for the american people, it makes it worthy of support. >> listen, i got to let you go and conserve what voice you have left. you've been at this a long time. you've seen a lot of negotiations. debbie dingell told us she's never seen sausage-making quite so difficult at this point. she said it made her sick to her stomach, it has been so difficult. but, you know, i want you to handicap this for me. 1 to 10, what are the chances there will be a deal today, 10 being definitely? >> well, i don't want to say 10 definitely today. but i will tell you 10, we're going to pass these bills within the near future if not today. we know we won't get the cares act bill signed into -- passed today because it needs to be put in legislative language now that we have hopefully an agreement. but the infrastructure bill is ready to go and i hope that passes today. >> majority leader steny hoyer, thank you so much for being with us. we can see the toll this has taken on democrats as you try to work this out. >> thank you very much. we have brand-new detalils n the deadly shooting on the set of alec baldwin's movie "rust." the round that killed halyna hutchin was a real bullet. authorities collected three weapons and 500 rounds of ammunition, blankz s and what i e expected to be live rounds. >> right now we can't determine how the live bullet got into the firearm. that's going to be the basis for further investigation. we need more interviews and that's going to be the million dollar question is how a live round ended up in the revolver that mr. baldwin fired. >> the assistant director of the film david halls acknowledged to investigators that he did not check all the rounds loaded into the weapon, and couldn't recall if the armorer spun the drum before handing it to baldwin. joining us now is attorney gloria allred, representing the script supervisor of the film, who was standing near hutchins when she was shot and who also is the person who you may have heard on that 911 call. gloria, thank you so much for being with us. this is what we're hearing now from authorities that they think this was a live round, they have retrieved what they think is a live round from the shoulder of the -- of the director. do you have any idea, does your client have any idea how that might have happened? >> well, first of all, brianna, i want to say that my client mamie mitchell is a real hero because she was standing very close to halyna, the director of photography, and to joel, the director, when that bullet went off and tragically took the life of this young mother, this wonderfully talented director of photography. and then went right into the clavicle of the director. and she could have been hit and that was very traumatic to her, plus the very loud sound that went off like an explosion when that happened. and she immediately ran out, had the presence of mind even though she was in shock. she ran outside and was the first one to call as far as we know 911 and you have been playing her voice on cnn. now, she has been in this business for 40 years and she has never once in 40 years when she's been on a lot of film sets, never once seen an assistant director hand a gun to an actor. that is not his job. it is the job of the armorer to hand it to the actor. so how did the -- the bullet get into the gun, that live ammunition? as the sheriff said, that is the million dollar question. but i want to say, there are many other million dollar questions as well. let's look at, for example, whether a gun was supposed to be fired at all as part of a scene. if a gun was supposed to be fired, brianna, there would have been plexiglass protecting the crew. there would have been ear protectors on the crew. and most importantly, most of the 16 people that were there on the set when this tragedy happened would not even have been allowed in the church. they would have been outside. the script supervisor would have been outside. >> sure. i think it is clear, gloria, that -- >> we have to find out why that gun was fired. >> obviously i think it was clear it wasn't supposed to be fired. david halls said cold gun according to the affidavit. so then who is to blame here? is it -- is your client pointing a finger at david halls? >> well, my client wants to know what the truth is. she wants accountability. and it may be that one person is responsible, it may be that a number of people in the chain of custody of that gun. and of that bullet are responsible. and it may be that entities, the production company may also be responsible. >> does she know anything, gloria, about the crew members allegedly plinking, about doing target practice with live rounds potentially with the prop weapon? these aren't prop -- they're real weapons used as props. >> i don't have information on whether that is true or not. i know that it is reported. but obviously, you know, there wasn't just one thing that went wrong. you know, there may have been many, many problems and flaws and violations of the safety protocol. and that is really a big issue because the safety protocol, which is in black and white, which every crew member is supposed to be aware of and is aware of was obviously violated and it is not something that is just there, you know, to put on a wall and forget about it or put on a piece of paper. it is there for the protection of the crew. not just the actor, all of the people of the crew who the public never sees, who make a film happen, it is there for their protection, it must be followed not only the spirit, but the letter of it. and obviously there were many, many flaws. that is what many people in hollywood want to know. how could this happen? >> what about -- what about by alec baldwin then. he fired the gun and you're saying this gun wasn't supposed to be fire d. >> i'm 100% sure the gun was not supposed to be fired. and i do think that it is a very positive sign that alec baldwin, according to the sheriff and the district attorney has been interviewed by them and possibly been reinterviewed and it is important that he disclose exactly what happened. i think it is too late to call it an accident or too early to call it an accident. i don't think we should come to a conclusion of that it is as whether it is a criminal act. clearly when the district attorney said yesterday, brianna, well, you know, she's not ready to say whether it is negligence, she has a criminal standard of proof. >> was alec baldwin wrong in your opinion firing that gun? >> i'm ready to come to a conclusion that it is negligence, gross negligence, reckless endangerment from a civil standard, which only requires a preponderance of the evidence. >> gloria allred, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. a brand-new survey showing a majority of parents do not plan to vaccinate their young kids right away and we have a top fda expert here to answer parents' most pressing questions on the vaccine. plus, for the very first time we're meeting several members of the jury in the derek chauvin murder trial. this is an interview you're going to want to see. ♪ ♪ i was not expecting to learn about my heart health from my genetic reports. but now that i have this info, it feels like i can take even more control of my health. do you know what the future holds? sustainability is essential to creating a better tomorrow. that's why cisco is committed to achieving net zero emissions by 2040. and we believe our smart buildings solutions can help. providing power to reduce emissions, intelligence to eliminate waste, and collaboration tools that help the workplace and the planet. between meeting human needs and a sustainable future, there's a bridge. cisco, the bridge to possible. brand-new survey by the caser family foundation finds a majority of parents do not plan to vaccinate their younger children against covid right away. this is -- this comes as we're days away from the fda's decision for the use of emergency use authorization for children ages 5 to 11. joining me is dr. paul spearman at cincinnati's children's hospital where he led part of the covid vaccine trials and he's currently on the vaccines and related biological products advisory committee of the fda. thank you so much for being with us. i want to pose to you some questions that came for our viewers here on this issue of children and vaccines. this question says my daughter is 11 and turns 12 on december 4th. is there any benefit if she waits until she's 12 and gets the larger vaccine dose or is it better to get vaccinated with the smaller 5 to 11 dose? >> yeah, that's a very interesting question. the data that came out from pfizer showed that a ten microgram dose, a third of the dose that is licensed for adults was equally effective in terms of generating neutralizing antibodies. one of the most important means of protecting people from covid-19. i would say in the 5 to 11 age group this ten microgram dose is a very good choice. and i wouldn't wait. there is really not an advantage to wait and get the higher number of micrograms in this case. we have seen equivalent data and perhaps a little bit better in terms of the reactive genocity, sore arms will be less if you get that lower dose. >> how long will the vaccines for children 5 to 11 be effective? will they need a booster? >> that is one of those million dollar questions, i'm afraid. we are all talking about boosters. boosters certainly for those who are immunocompromised have been authorized and we need that. for those who are elderly and others who are at high risk. so that is already in place. for kids, we don't yet know. we don't yet know how long -- how the durability of these responses that have just been reported is going to be because the studies are ongoing. so i would say, you know, stay tuned. it is likely that it will be durable for a year or more. but we just don't know yet. let's wait and see. we hope it is even much longer than that. >> so one of the things that happened during the pandemic, many people, all of us, because we're amateur scientists and we know a little bit about science that makes us think things sometimes are a little bit inaccurate. this question is why haven't different types of covid vaccines been prioritized. more familiar vaccines like novavax rather than the limited options of the mrna vaccines or the viral vector options? >> that's another good question. so the mrna vaccines were developed in a rapid sequence. but were also tested very carefully. i can attest to that, the kinds of safety parameters and the data collected with these vaccines is extensive. so we know they have a great safety profile and they're very effective. so you have to put that in the context of this question. but some people would much rather have a more standard protein vaccine, just because they're more familiar with it. that is very understandable. now the novavax vaccine looks promising. it is just lagging behind in terms of getting the submission to the fda and other regulatory agencies around the world and getting it authorized or eventually licensed. and then, of course, there has to be tested now in younger age groups, just like the mrnas have been. so it is a good question. very understandable. but it is going to be a bit of a delay before you see novavax that is out there for this age group. >> dr. paul spearman, we appreciate the help you've given us answering these questions. >> thank you very much. good to be on the show. so we have a remarkable new interview, don lemon spoke exclusively with seven members of the jury in the derek chauvin murder trial. and also moments away now from a critical gdp report. we're going to bring you the numbers next. when did you see the signs? 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>> not at all. race wasn't even ever mentioned in the 3 1/2 weeks we were in that courtroom and it was never mentioned during deliberations, i don't believe. >> i think what got here because of systemic racism within the system, right, because of what's been going on. that's how we got to a courtroom in the first place. but when it came down to all three verdicts, it was based on the evidence and the facts 100%. >> joining us now to discuss is cnn's don lemon author of "this is the fire: what i say to my friends about racism." fascinating interview. i can't wait to watch the entire interview tonight and also that race never came up. that is surprising. >> it was, you know, the movie 12 angry men you get an inside look at what happens in the jury. in the jury room. i felt that way when i was interviewing these jurors, seven of them, five and then two alternates. it was fascinating because here we were on the outside talking about race, right, it is race and it is what happened with george floyd and what happens with police departments around the country, systemic racism and on and on and on. and that never really came up. i think most of the jurors know the history of the country and the times that we're living in. they picked the right jury. they were -- they stuck to the facts. they said as soon as it was over, we got in, we did an initial sort of test vote of what happened, and then we went from there, just going through the testimony and the evidence. it was not based on emotion. >> this is a big deal. i think this is a really important interview. i had no idea this was happening when i saw you had this, i was, like, wow. i think it will be instructive for the american people because you're already starting to see this suggestion, you did right away, juries are scared, juries are intimidated by what is happening in the outside world, they would be afraid to deliver a not guilty verdict. did this jury say they were scared? >> they weren't afraid of what was happening in the outside world. they knew it was a big deal. they knew they had a mission and a task and they knew someone had died and someone else's life really was hanging in the balance, so their freedom was hanging in the balance so to speak, but they were not scared. now, afterwards they have concerns about their safety, they have to live in that community, they're concerned that the police department may not be looking out for their best interests because they ultimately decided against this police officer. so it remains to be seen. their names are coming out soon. the reason they wanted to do this is because they wanted to do one interview, they said, and they don't want to be hounded by the press, don't want question after question after question. they want to do one interview, wan want people to know how we feel and be done with it. we didn't hear from derek chauvin. i would like to play the sound bite where they talk about wanting to hear from derek chauvin. >> i mean i think the way the video, how many times we did see it is the importance of the video and it was traumatic for sure. >> was it the first time -- did anybody see it for first time in the courtroom? >> yes. >> in entirety, yes. >> first time in its entirety? >> i also wanted to shut my eyes. it bothered me so much that -- and it was mainly how could somebody do that to someone else and it was a slow death it wasn't just a gunshot, and they're dead. it was a slow death, and you are doing this. and it bothered me to the fact that a person can do this to another person and i felt for george. i just -- i'm, like, and it just got to my core. >> that was -- that wasn't the one that we were talking about, but still they do talk about that. but this one was about what was interesting to me is that they said it wasn't what he did, what derek chauvin did, it is what he didn't do, and i think that their minds, you know, may have been -- may have gone the other way, the verdict may have gone the other way if it was about what derek chauvin did, if it was about the knee being on the neck. but they said they found that he was in the custody of the minneapolis police department and never in their care. and they had a duty to take care of him, especially when they saw the video, they saw the video for the first time again in its entirety and they talked about the life leaving george floyd's body. and they had to sit there, even in the jury room, and look at the video over again for the time that the life was not in his body and they did not offer care. and so one of the jurors said, you know, guys, isn't it about what he didn't do, what they didn't do, these police officers had a duty it take care of george floyd, anybody in their custody, regardless of, you know, the behaviors before, after, what have you, and they didn't do that. i think that was the deciding factor in all of this. but, yeah, can you imagine having to watch that, that video over and over, to make the decision? we were watching here, you know, on the other side, saying, okay, emotionally, enough, i found myself talking to the television and i'm sure you did, get off of his neck. >> for them to watch derek chauvin and want to hear from him and not. i want to ask you about something near and dear to your heart, which is dads on duty, a group of dads that is just doing amazing things in your home state of louisiana. >> 40 dads from louisiana, because there were, i think, 23 fights within four days in this high school in shreveport, louisiana, and they said, enough. and they decided that they were going to be dads, first they said they wanted to be pops on patrol or something, they said it sounds too much like paw patrol. >> what's the matter with that? >> they were going to be the dads of the school and take care of the kids. watch this. >> you got kids, they come to school, one day they're angry, one day they're happy. when you reach that part, they actually listen to you and open up, you done a big thing already because a lot of kids don't respond to people. they shut off. >> they want to take this nationwide, they said at first the kids who are -- the kids said, you know what, this is our territory, why are you here? waiting to speak to them, giving them the big shoulder, like you can't come into our school, and now they're happy to see them. bad day, they talk to them. they open up to the dads. there have been no fights at the school since the dads have been there. >> amazing. i love it i. i cannot wait to see this interview tonight. it is so important to give us this inside look. tune in tonight at 10:00 for a special don lemon tonight inside the jury room. don, thank you so much. >> thanks, brianna. thanks, john. i took a walk and we have breaking news. brand-new gdp numbers, i have no idea what they are. christine romans does. >> 2%. that is less than expected. it is a downshift from the spring when we had a really robust 6.7% economic growth. i'll tell you why. no surprise here, the delta variant was surging, so there were new restrictions that people put on themselves because of the delta variant. supply chain bottlenecks, rising prices, and acute worker shortage. all things at play in the quarter, so, john, look at the trajectory here this is 2.7%. sharp deceleration from the spring before we had the delta variant. and, look, this is the whole covid nightmare, right. the economy crashed. it bounced back sharply. we wanted to see this continue to move higher. but now you're looking at a 2% range is just about what we had kind of on average during the trump administration. so we would be looking for something sharper and more robust. i will remind you this is still a bigger economy today than it was after the pandemic hit. we're now at least in positive ground. but you wanted to see a bigger number than that. >> low, slow growth. what is the market saying to this? >> the market is not moving very much right now. people wonder what does this mean for the fed and the fed's plans to tap down on inflation. the key here is this is rear view mirror. if we feel that maybe the delta variant has been tackled for now and vaccinations are rising and kids are back in school, you might see this number get better into the fall. so reminder this is always a rear view mirror picture of the economy. but 2% is certainly not what many economists wanted to see. they feared it would be a number like this. they wanted to seeing some more robust. >> any way to tell any signs about q4 at this point? >> at this point there is no way to know. we know confidence might be coming back a little bit. consumer confidence might be coming back. there are big changes in how people are spending their money. the consumer is really important here. consumer is buying goods like crazy, not services, because of delta, and that's probably going to continue into the end of the year there are these product supply snafus that can be holding things back. one other point, the government noting here that the government payments to citizens slowed dramatically and dried up, that might be one reason here. you had an economy quite frankly, an economy being lifted by congress and by the fed and by the government, preventing a depression because of what happened in the coronavirus pandemic and now that aid is slipping away and you'll see growth that is more along the lines of what we saw. >> stand by. you'll hear democrats say this is a reason to pass social spending plans and new investments and you'll hear republicans say the exact opposite. this just shows that, you know, they shouldn't pass it. >> you nailed it. that's exactly what the argument will be for the rest of the day. >> fascinating stuff. thank you very much. in moments, president biden headed to capitol hill, maybe on his way there already as we speak, a big moment where he talks to house democrats, he's going to present a framework he hopes gets his social agenda over the finish line. plus, u.s. military asking for help from the private space industry to help defend national security. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ your new pharmacy is here. to help you compare prices, and save on your medication. amazon prime members get select meds as low as $1 a month. who knew it could be this easy? 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your reality check next. ♪ (peaceful music) ♪ ♪ ♪ (battle sounds from phone) ♪ ♪ (battle sounds stop) ♪ ♪ (dragon roar from phone) ♪ ♪ ♪ say it's all right ♪ ♪ say it's all right, it's all right ♪ ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ now listen to the beat ♪ ♪ kinda pat your feet ♪ ♪ it's all right ♪ ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ oh, it's all right ♪ so why are republican senators going to such great lengths to defend dangerous behavior at school board meetings? john avlon with a reality check. >> someone ought to tell senator ted cruz that when you're defending nazi salutes at school board meetings, you're already losing. >> well, the nazi salute, that's one of the examples, my god, a parent did a nazi salute at a school board because he thought the policies were oppressive! general garland, is doing a nazi salute, is that protected by the first amendment? >> yes, it is. >> the issue here isn't the first amendment. the issue is the galloping insanity affecting our lives, by right wing members of congress during america's deadliest pandemic. this drumbeat of disinformation resulted in unhinged accusations, harassment and threats, directed at school board members across the united states. >> we know! we know who you are! we will find you! you will never be allowed in public again! >> as you can see, fists are now flying, all of this on live television. >> you are allowing child abuse. you with your snotty little face, you're allowing it as well. >> because i chose to speak, i'm now being arrested. >> none of this is normal. not this side of desegregation debates anyway. it was in response to these reports as well as requests for the national school board association for federal help that attorney general merrick garland released a memo ordering federal law enforcement to meet with state and local authorities to discuss strategies for dealing with this disturbing trend. and then the very first paragraph garland wrote that while spirited debate about public policy matters is protected under our constitution, that protection does not extend to threats of violence or efforts to intimidate individuals based on their views. the order was intentionally mischaracterized as part of a government plot to designate concerned parents domestic terrorists, a distortion that was repeated over and over again on right wing talk tv over the past few weeks. and because many republican senators seem to get their information mainly from partisan echo chambers, at yesterday's hearing with garland, they kept referring to those mischaracterizations as fact rather than actually reading the memo. >> i just have to ask you, would you really honestly put parents in the same category as a terry nichols or a timothy mcveigh. >> my god, absolutely not. >> then why would you ever release a memo? it is so over the top. >> senator, there is nothing in the memo that in any way draws any comparison, anything like that. this memo is about violence and threats of violence. it is not -- >> sir, i have to tell you that that may be your opinion, and you know, many times perception is reality. >> and that's in some ways the crux of the problem. there is no reference to parents or terrorism in the garland memo. none. that's not a matter of opinion. that's a matter of fact. and as the late senator daniel patrick moynihan used to remind us, everyone is entitled their own opinion, but not their own facts. that's what we're missing in america right now. common sense, and common decency. and common facts. and that's a result of this hyperpartisan misinformation efforts that create a perception of oppression unrelated to reality. those false perceptions can be used to justify irrational rage. it is an extension of why bowing down to the big lie is still so dangerous. because only fanatics don't care about facts. that's your reality check. >> i mean, i guess if you believe that take, you might believe ted cruz went to cancun to drop off his kids during a deep freeze. it is a stretch, is what i'll say. >> it is a warped reality. they're making stuff up. u.s. senators making stuff up during a committee hearing, pure and simple. >> she said the truth, though, perception is reality, that's the point. >> to her. >> it is all for a sound bite at fox news at this point. it is not about conducting a hearing or inquiry into the truth. that's what's so dangerous and pathetic. >> thank you. we're just a few minutes away from a huge moment in the biden presidency, a live picture of capitol hill. some somewhere in that building the president of the united states will show up on a rescue mission, right? 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