this is cnn breaking news. >> top of the hour, i'm victor blackwell. fbi agents say items of interest were found at the carlton reserve in the search for brian laundrie, he of course the missing fiance of gabby petito. >> we know the sarasota medical examiner and a cadaver dog are on the scene, let's go to randi kaye at north port, florida. any description, anything more specific then articles about what was found? >> so far victor, no, we know that these items, these articles were found, according to the family attorney, these are articles that belonged to brian laundrie. they were found just off a hiking trial here in the environmental creek park here behind me. this is the entrance to the carlton reserve which is where authorities have been searching for brian laundrie since september 17th, since his family directed him here, saying this is where he came to hike. it's unclear what was found but we know the family was in there early this morning after alerting authorities that they were going to come here and search for him. the park just opened yesterday, so the family came here this morning along with law enforcement who was trailing behind them and found these items off one of the hiking trails. we don't know what they were. we know the coroner is on scene. that has not happened here in the search for brian laundrie yet in this last month or so. we also know there's a human remains detection dog here, along with two spotters, this is a dog that only searches for decomposing bodies, does not alert for anyone who's alive or missing or for a dead animal, strictly, a decomposing dead body. i spoke with the pasco county sheriffs office, they were called this morning to come here with the human remains detection dog to help in the search. the fbi is on the scene. we saw a large trailer go in behind us, unclear what that is as well. there is one north port, just at the entrance here behind me, again, we have an area so we can see the dog working in that area. it's unclear what exactly is happening inside. the fbi says the reserve right now is closed. this area is closed to the public. clearly they were processing the scene. v victor, alisyn. >> authorities have been looking for brian laundrie for a month and then last night his parents called the fbi and they say, by the way, tomorrow morning, we want to go to that very park, and look for our son, and lo and behold they find his belongings after looking for a month. help us understand the timing. >> this is what we're understanding from the family attorney. the fbi out of tampa has just tweeted after confirming items of interest found in the fbi evidence response team. they are processing, they don't say who, though, they just say items of interest. it is very very coincidental. i mean, it's just ironic. however, the family from the beginning has said we believe he's there. we know the areas where he would frequent. the trails that he enjoyed to hike upon. but it was about a week ago that the father actually went out with law enforcement to show them exactly he liked this, he liked that, and they had a dog out at that time, and they did search those trails. so this would be going back to those areas that conceivably brian laundrie's father frequented. >> gene, randy, stay with us. i want to bring in now a forensic scientist, lawrence cobalinski to join the conversation. first, when we consider the medical examiner has been called out, this is not a person who searches, right. what would be, from concluding from that, that this person is now on scene, how far along into this search they are. >> i do think this medical examiner comes from sarasota. he's the county medical examiner, and i think it would be very very odd for police to call the medical examiner without having remains at the scene. finding clothing is a very significant factor, but there's no need for a medical examiner here unless they did, in fact, find human remains, either complete remains or partial remains, this is a site exposed to animals. known to pull body parts, body pieces away from the main torso. and that could be why the cadaver dogs are at the scene. this may not be a complete set of remains. and they're trying to put the pieces together. but it seems to me you would not have a medical examiner present at the scene, unless there were human remains that were found, perhaps by the cadaver dogs. it does seem a bit odd as gjean casarez pointed out to have these -- the parents come back. they're the ones who find this clothing when the police have been looking for so many weeks now. it just seems very very odd, and i would really like to know a little bit more about the status of the clothing, what the clothing appears to look like. does it look like it's been weathered for many weeks. or is it relatively fresh, does it have bloodstain on it, that would indicate some kind of violence or trauma or some sort. was it exposed to water and for how long. >> i want to be clear about what we know and what we done know. we know that there are articles that have been discovered, if it's clothing, a backpack, camping supplies, know that these are items of interest that might have belonged to him. but nothing specific on what exactly it is. >> about where you are at that park, you were saying that it was closed. has it been closed for the past month to the public while they have been searching or what's the satatus been. >> it has been closed, it just reopened yesterday. this is the area, this entrance, it serves as the environmental park, serves as one of the entrances to this carlton reserve, which is basically a 25,000 acre swamp filled with, you name it, al ligators, bob cats, florida panthers, this has been closed, what's key about this location is that on september 13th, apparently, this is according to the laundrie family attorney, brian had come here, brian's father had then come here, and this was the last day that they say they saw him, the parents, they came here to search for him, the father did on september 13th, and then on september 14th is when north port police found the family mustang parked here at this entrance, and tagged it as an abandoned vehicle. the parents came back that night and saw the car, this is all according to the family attorney, and on the 15th, they came back and drove the car home. this is the only piece of evidence that puts brian laundrie here or at least a family member or somebody from the laundrie family put a car, their car here, at this entrance. again, i have been told by north port police that until today, they have not found a single piece of evidence that brian laundrie was in this reserve, infor was in this park. they didn't find a footprint, a backpack, any article of clothing. >> and the size of this reserve, close to 25,000 acres. it's important to point out, the terrain is not static, there are animals that move things. this is, it may not be identical to when potentially they searched this specific area before. >> that's true, the environmental conditions can change. this is about a month before they began to search in that area. they had a buggies that are elevated. so they can go through the swampland. it's very interesting when we look at all this, this is the area they have focused on from the beginning, and the resources they have put in this area from so many law enforcement agencies are quite amazing, and finally today, ironically, so they went out as public citizens wanting to search for their son, and they, or they and law enforcement, according to the family attorney found these articles of interest. some items, but it is plural. it's not singular. it's plural. >> lawrence, as ryou only call cadaver dog to identify human remains. you're not looking for a live human being. this isn't a dog rained to chase the scent of somebody on the run. this is for human remains. can we conclude they wouldn't have called this dog we have seen in this aerial view, unless they had found human remains. >> i think this is very likely, although dogs can be called even without a body present. they may clue in law enforcement to different items of evidence, clothing, backpacks, things of that sort. i wouldn't say that the dogs are a certain indication that there is a body present. but i do think the fact that the medical examiner was called in, that tells me that there are remains at the scene, it's yet to be confirmed but i believe it will be confirmed. >> we're still waiting for the latest there at the scene. several agencies there, including the fbi, they have confirmed. gene casarez, randi kaye, thank you all. now to washington, democrats appear to be nearing a deal on the president's signature spending bill. how close are they to the finish line. we have that next. of polygons here! what's going on? where's regina? hi, i'm ladonna. i invest in invesco qqq, a fund that gives me access to the nasdaq-100 innovations, like real time cgi. okay... yeah... oh. don't worry i got 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>> they're still discussing it. they don't have a deal yet. the hope is they can bring the party together, the moderates and progressives behind this negotiation that has been going on for months, bring a deal behind some sort of outline, a framework, as they call it over this larger plan, that initially it was $3.5 trillion. some progressives are pushing for now money. they're going to see demands fall short because of push back from moderates like joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, and i want to pair back on the number of benefits in this program. as part of this proposal that includes a number of issues that are still we understand on the table, including universal pre-k, an expansion of medicare. more money to provide for affordable care act subsidies. things that could fall by the way wayside, including tuition free community college, something progressives had been pulled. other issues as well. expansion of the child tax credit, some democrats wanted to make that permanent or make that five years, but we are hearing there will probably be one year. also paid family leave. the white house and democrats wanted 12 weeks to provide paid family leave to individuals. that is likely to be paired back down to four weeks. nevertheless, despite these changes, we hear an acceptance, democrats believe it's time to get behind something. may not be everything they want but at least what they can ultimately agree on, and essentially pass this. there are still a lot of questions, how do we deal with the issues of climate change, a number of liberals, joe manchin has rejected the push to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 50% over the next decade. alternatives to appease him and appease the left. those discussions are still ongoing. the hope is they can get there by friday, get an agreement on all sides and that could pave the way for passing that separate infrastructure bill. $1.2 trillion, and perhaps that can get through the senate or the house if they can get to that point. a lot of questions still but talks are progressing. >> also at the same time, we hear that any minute now the senate will be voting on a major voting rights bill. what's the status, what do we expect to happen there? >> the voting right now, the tally is 48 no votes, 43 yes votes. we don't expect this to get the 60 votes they need. no chance they can get that. that was not expected because republicans are voting in mass and in unison against that voting plan, the bill to rewrite elections and voting laws, democrats say it's necessary to push back against the state level for a strict voting. republicans say this would essentially federalize election laws that should be left to the state, so you're seeing a significant partisan divide. this is essentially going to become an issue that will be litigated on the campaign trail. it has no chance of becoming law. kamala harris, the vice president did come back to preside over this vote. at least the beginning of ulti convinced republicans they failed, and is going to be up to the voters to decide what's going to be done next. >> manu raju, watching it all on capitol hill for us. thank you. >> let's bring in dana bash, coanchor of the state of the union, our chief political correspondent, something. something impressive, dana, i know that much. dana, great to see you. >> you too. >> i want to talk about both things, the substance of this bill and where it is, and also the parlor game of who's caving. actually, we followed both of those for months, and i think it's interesting where we are today. here's what we know, what's still in this big safety net package, more funding for housing, medicare expansion to include the vision and the hearing, and i think the dental that was, you know, such an issue for some reason of contention. and affordable care act. and there's more. and isn't it interesting, dana, we've heard. we've all interviewed so many progressives who have said, no, something east not better than nothing. we're sticking to our guns. today it feels as though something has shifted and we're getting to a finish line where maybe we're going to compromise on different things. how did we get here. >> we got here through extremely intense, extremely visible sausage making, the sausage making are the negotiations. of course progressives have said, and understandably so that they're not going to budge. why would they budge until they have to, as more than one has said to me, why would i negotiate with myself, fair point. same goes with the moderates. the difference between even monday and today is it's very clear from talking to sources and from hearing from our reporters, both covering the white house capitol hill, that the white house is putting the screws on their fellow democrats to say, okay, we basically have a sense from you progressives of where you can and can't go, from you moderates of where you can and can't go. let's put meat on this, and explain the details of this. and they are starting to shake out. and that is what is most important here is what the programs and the policies are that add up to those numbers that are hard to digest. over a trillion dollars, 2 trillion, it's a lot of money, and so those are the negotiations that have been going on, but you're starting to see more evidence according to sourc sources about which ones are going to stick, like for example, universal pre-k, we thu t -- knew that. things that joe manchin has been for since the beginning. things that might go away. college free tuition free community college. that might not happen right now. that is what really matters, and that is the most important thing from the white house talking to them, and one of the things that you can be sure that the president is going to make lcler over and over. this isn't just about democratic infighting, this is about what they're going to accomplish, once it's done and they are confident that it will get done for the various sectors of the population that will be directly af affected by these new policies. >> let me talk about the overall number, because in the discussion of compromise, it looks like one side is doing the compromising, so chairman sanders started at $6 trillion back in the spring. then the progressives came down to 3.5. then pramila jayapal said 2.5 to 2.9. now it's down at 1.75 to 1.5 being his floor. joe manchin has been at a trillion and a half dollars for months. is there an indication that he is moving or at this point that he really needs to? 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>> i have been been a huge champion of the clean electricity plan. >> you're right, it's still out there and who knows where this may end, but that doesn't mean there aren't other options for achieving what we need to achieve, which is deterioaddressing the climate crisis on top of that. doing that in a way that creates jobs, improves our health, that does all of the things that we have to do when we do address the climate crisis. >> and are those things part of the package, are those alternatives actually being built into the package or no? >> that is what we are negotiating right this minute, there are a variety of things we can do. i mean, i continue to think the clean electricity payment plan is the best way forward. that doesn't mean it's the only way forward. we got to find the path, a path that 50 of us plus, our friends in the house can all get behind. >> i know that you have been actively, i think, talking to senator joe manchin who has been immovable as far as we can tell on this. do you think we're talking enough about senator manchin's financial conflicts of industry when it comes to coal. just to remind everybody, he started his own coal company in 1988 and since then, he has made lots of money on coal. i mean, these are just the past two years that we know of, in terms of his dividends from ener systems. in 2019, he made more than half a million dollars. in 2020, he made roughly half a million dollars. isn't that a financial conflict of interest for him to be so involved in this? >> well, listen, senator manchin is answerable to his constituents on all of that, but what i know is that strong forward motion on climate change is going to help west virginia. it's going to create more jobs, it's going to lower electricity rates in west virginia. west virginia relies heavily on coal for its electric power, and that means that rates are higher. so that is, i think, the thing we have to really focus on. i want to just say one other thing about senator manchin, we're looking to find our areas of common agreement here, and one of them is he cares a lot about innovation and bringing that innovation back to the united states and that is very much what we're trying to accomplish with the climate parts of the build back better build. >> look, i have heard some people describe it as joe manchin's holding president biden's climate program hostage. how do you see it? >> i would lie, and i said this to joe myself, and it is certainly frustrating to find that common ground. wait and see, we are working hard, this is not just about one or two senators. this is about all 50 of us plus the members of the house coming to agreement, and i want to just also say i'm really grateful for the leadership of pramila jayapal and members of the house progressive caucus who have been saying, hey, wait a minute, this is something that a lot of people care about, and we have to make sure that all of these voices are heard in the negotiations, and honestly, i think that that's happening. it's frustrating because it's happening behind the scenes, but i know that that's happening for a fact. >> okay. well, we appreciate you sharing some of this and the negotiations with us, senator tina smith, thank you. >> thank you. what's being called a miracle on the runway, how every passenger on board survived this plane crash. we've got new details ahead. some things are good to know. like where to find the cheapest gas in town, and which supermarket gives you the most bang for your buck. something else that's good to know? 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>> you know, victor, here we are again thinking not only is this a miracle, but it was a lot of skill on the part of the flight crew. the fortunate circumstances that nobody could ever think we'd put together at any time to come together like this. the way the plane landed. where the door ended up at the dirt road that goes out to that field. everything was just a fortunate set of circumstances that really looked good. >> which is why people are calling it a miracle. you point out that the door lines up on the dirt road and people are trying to climb out here and you also talk about the skill of the flight crew. what did they do to make sure that everybody got off there with their lives? >> so you know, the flight crew is going to be the experts on their aircraft and they are the ones that made sure everybody got off that aircraft and kept them together and kept up with them. when we arrived we found them together with all the passengers, and while there was some confusion on the initial numbers, that group stayed together and we knew we had all accountability very quickly after we got there. that allowed all of our responders, all of our partners and ems crews to focus on the incident rolling before us of the aircraft starting to catch fire and burning all while we still had engines turning and running. >> when you got the call, you didn't know that all 21 had survived, right? >> no, sir, not at all. in fact, the initial dispatch that we got from the sheriff's department was this was going to be a helicopter with two pilots on board. it was only after we looked to the sky and saw the column of smoke we knew this was something much, much larger than what we were initially told about. >> what were your fears as you started pulling up on this scene before you knew that people were safe? >> you always have to go to that worst case situation where we're going to come into this and we're going to have a lot of responders putting themselves on the line to try to effect rescues, to try and get into an aircraft that now it's burning to try and find any victims we can save. and to know that there was -- everybody was out, it was a relief on all of our shoulders that we could now take a step back, let's focus on the firefighting efforts and let's get the resources we need to get that part of this done while we allowed our ems partners to assess all of the victims, all of the passengers, the aircraft crew to assess any injuries. our ems partners were outstanding. they got a strike team and all the crews in, and we were prepared for the worst. i can tell you that much. >> when you saw the survivors, what were they saying? what was their mood? tell us about that. >> you know, we didn't spend much time in contact with them at the very front. as far as where we were in command. we immediately got them off and got them to the medical sector down away from the incident, away from the aircraft so that everybody was kept safe. as you can see in the videos and pictures, there was an enormous amount of fire and heavy, dark smoke that is absolutely dangerous to your health. so we immediately got them as far away as we could and we didn't spend much time asking them those types of questions. we went straight to the medical assessment questions. >> well, tim gibson, thank you for the work you do. we've had that video of that burning plane up during our entire interview. and as we watch that and hear you tell the story, it really is remarkable that everybody, all 21, made it off that plane. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you, victor. >> that is remarkable. it's a miracle, and, you know, as we were saying, it's so rare that you see something like that that it end well. >> two minor injuries and one of them a 10-year-old boy who survived. thank you for being with us this afternoon. 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