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and racist comments. more on that story just ahead. >> also, it is a critical week on capitol hill. house speaker nancy pelosi really trying to rally her caucus around president biden's agenda. ahead of a key vote in the house today. in a new letter pelosi telling democrats that difficult decisions will be required soon. what does that mean? we'll take a closer look. and the texas governor taking a dramatic step in the battle over vaccines. governor greg abbott issuing an executive order which bans any entity including private businesses from enforcing a vaccine mandate on workers. that marks a significant reversal from abbott's previous policy, giving private businesses the choice to mandate vaccines. so is it legal? joining us now, cnn anchor of early start laura jarrett, an attorney. this new order, when we look at it, this covers any employer in the state of texas. there are large companies as we know based in texas. american, southwest airlines, headquartered in the state. is this legal? is this going to stick? >> so, this is a big deal for these companies that are headquartered in texas. they're now facing potential fines for failure to comply with the governor's executive order, but i got to tell you, i think legally it is on very shaky ground and here's why. remember governor abbott tried to do this weeks ago with schools. he said that schools cannot mandate vaccines for covid. but this is upping the ante because the president's executive order mandating the vaccine for both federal workers, federal contractors and also for businesses that have over 100 employees comes into play here and is now in direct contravention of that federal law. i think you should look for the justice department to intervene here and say, wait a minute, when federal law is in conflict with state law, typically federal law trumps. so we'll see how this plays out in court. he's already been sued, the governor has already been sued about what he tried to do with this in schools. we'll see where this one goes. as you mentioned, irerica, ther is a lot of businesses headquartered in texas now, essentially in limbo. american and southwest, also oracle, at&t, dell, we're talking about major corporations here essentially now with what to do with exactly how to comply with this order and also comply with president biden's executive order. it is also interesting to think about how this could interplay with religious liberty. the court typically treats that very favorably. what if a church tried to institute a vaccine mandate. this is a very broad executive order. it says any entity in the state can't do it. is he going to say a church can't have a vaccine mandate if it wants to? as for why the governor did this, as for what the motivations are, remember, he's facing a primary challenge next year. and there are candidates that are to the right of him, like alan west, who came down covid himself recently, and they are the ones who are pushing him to go this far, erica and jim. >> watch the politics in a case like that first perhaps. not the law. laura jarrett, thanks so much. let's bring in dr. regina bejet, an emergency medicine physician. good to have you back. i want to set aside the politics and the law for a moment and look at the health part of this. a lot of data seems to be showing these mandates are working, right? they're getting very high compliance rates within companies, from a public health perspective, is that helping to stem the spread of the coronavirus, particularly as we saw the delta surge sweeping across the country? >> jim, of course the mandates are working. we have some of the greatest minds in science, some of the best physicians around the globe telling us all what we need to get control of this pandemic and what we need to do to stop covid-19, yet on the other hand, we have politicians who don't have medical training trying to undermine every public health effort we tried to put into place. yes, the mandates work. vaccines are what's going to get us out of this pandemic. i can't say that enough. >> to that point, the fact that the mandates are working, as you point out, part of what governor abbott said is he touched on the reasoning being partially this nursing shortage, right? we know there was a nursing shortage across the country before covid. covid exacerbated it because of all of the frontline workers, which you know all too well, have just been overworked and exhausted emotionally and physically. is there anything that you have seen, even in your own hospital, that actually underscores the point that governor abbott is making that somehow these mandates are leading to further staffing shortages. it sounds like to what jim said and what we heard from you that's not at all the case. >>. >> i don't think the mandates are what are leading to the staffing shortages. yes, our staff are tired. yes, we are exhausted. we're also getting sick. let's not forget that point. we're putting our lives on the line, our family's lives on the line by coming in and taking care of patients who are presenting to the emergency department with covid. we're falling ill. some of our staff is dying and that's part of the reason why we're having a shortage also. protect your workers. >> another debate in which politics are trumping what we know about the science here are mandates for kids to wear masks in school. we know the data shows that helps stem the spread and yet in a number of places you had governors ban those mask mandates. now in wisconsin, you have parents suing two school district because their children got infected, right, saying -- blaming the ban on mask mandates. again, from a public health perspective, based on what we know from the data, do these mandates help keep kids and their families safe? >> i think they do, jim. you know what's interesting, i looked at one of the lawsuits and one of the parents actually alleges that last school year the school district implemented masking, temperature checks, contact tracing and they actually had plexiglass barriers for the students, which sounds fantastic. i would definitely send my child to in person school if they had those strategies in place. yet, this year the school board voted against all of those things and took away all of the mitigation strategies, they already had employed. if you are not explicitly going to do what the cdc recommends to protect our children, then de facto you are complicit when they fall ill. >> when you look at where we are right now, as a country, we're seeing encouraging numbers, increases in vaccinations, seeing decreases in new cases and hospitalizations, where do you see this going in the coming months? i know there is concern about the winter, is there enough positive, though, to offset that? >> there is some positive in the numbers decreasing. but i hedge on how much i'm willing to be excited about that because the numbers are going down, but they're still abysmal. we're still seeing 1800 deaths per day. yesterday, the new york times reported that 123,000 people tested positive. so while we're going in the right direction, we're still not where we need to be in order to curb this pandemic. >> dr. bicette, appreciate your insight. >> thank you for having me. turning now to the breaking news from overnight, jon gruden out as head coach of the las vegas raiders after new reporting from "the new york times" detailing emails sent by gruden over a number of years, which used misogynistic and homophobic language. again those emails, several years worth of emails, which emer emerged as part of a different investigation. >> look at your screen right now, you can read them. this is an example of what gruden has reportedly said in some of those emails. we're not going to read it live out loud because they are offensive. we do want to show you just how far the former coach went with some of his words in these emails. coy wire joins us now. gruden, initially faced criticism and apologized for racist comments. he's going back to 2011, i believe, made about the nfl union leader demaurice smith, but since then, we're seeing this extended over many years and in many categories. tell us what we're learning. >> that's right, jim, the reported details of gruden's racist, misogynistic anti-gay emails are hurtful to many. one of the players he coached is carl nassib, the first active openly gay player. the emails came to light as part of the league's workplace misconduct investigation into the washington football team. the new york times says they are from a seven-year period that ended in early 2018. according to the times report, the emails say gruden used racially insensitive language to describe nflpa executive director demaurice smith, denounced women being employed as on field officials, denounced intolerance for players kneeling during the national anthem. shortly after the report was published, gruden released a statement saying i have resigned as the head coach of the las vegas raiders. i love the raiders and do not want to be a distraction. thank you to all the players, coaches, staff and fans of raider nation. i'm sorry. i never meant to hurt anyone. >> all i can say i'm not racist. i don't -- i can't tell you how sick i am. i apologize again d. smith. but i feel good about who i am, and what i've done my entire life. i apologize for the insensitive re remarks. i had no -- you know, i had no racial intentions with those remarks at all. >> gruden signed a ten-year, $100 million contract in 2018 to be the head coach of the raiders. the team announced that special teams coordinator rich bisaccia will take over as the interim head coach. >> it was really something. i was watching the game last night when the announcement came on the screen, and it certainly led to an important moment of discussion in our house with my boys as we look at the fallout here. appreciate the reporting as always. thank you. want to bring in senior nfl writer at the boston globe. i was struck, so the comments that gruden made obviously on sunday, a little bit different from what we saw in that statement, but he said i feel good about who i am, what i've done my entire life. when you look at that juxtaposed with what has come out of these years worth of emails, it raises a lot of questions this morning, ben, about just who jon gruden has been and who he is and what is that impact? >> yeah, i think the statement that gruden made over the weekend, if nothing else shows a little naivete, he didn't think some of the other emails would be released and clearly someone in the nfl wanted these emails out there, wanted jon gruden exposed and when he made the statement at the time, it was just one email, with some obvious racial overtones, but he clearly didn't expect that more of these emails would come out. really portraying him as misogynistic and homophobic and really frankly just a cliche of the old school football guy that the nfl has really been trying to move past and it is almost cartoonish in a way how gruden reveals himself to be against every single bit of progress the nfl has tried to make over the last decade, whether it is with concussion prevention, and female representation in the nfl, and, you know, michael sam being drafted, it is just -- he reveals himself to be completely against everything that the nfl has been trying to accomplish and like i said, i think some naivete he didn't think some of the other emails would be released. >> and, you're right, it is literally every hot button issue, right including protesting during the national anthem. i want to focus if i can for a moment on his homophobic comments. you mentioned michael sam. talking about his drafting in 2014, the first openly gay player to be drafted in the nfl, the thing is that since then as head coach gruden is coaching the first openly gay nfl player, carl nassib. he was coaching him. and yet was making these comments. i just wonder in the league is this coming as a surprise to the players who played for him? >> i haven't heard from any players who played for him. i heard from someone who knows gruden well yesterday and the conversation was off the record and out of fairness to jon, i don't think it is fair for me to reveal what was said. i don't believe these comments were too out of character for jon gruden. i don't think people around the league who know him well are too surprised to see that this is who jon gruden really is behind the scenes, you know. we get an unvarnished look at the emails. this is before he was head coach of the raiders. these emails took place over several years while he was a commentator for espn, not directly involved with the league. and obviously now they're coming to light. but this is the real jon gruden, not the, you know, not the polished jon gruden we see on tv. i think he did do a good job of welcoming carl nassib into the team this year. not making a big deal out of nassib being first openly gay player. it hasn't really been a story line, which i think reflects really a great progress for society and for the nfl, that, you know, we haven't really been talking about having this openly gay player in the nfl. that said, you know, the raiders especially trying to have this image as being very progressive, there was no way they could move forward with jon gruden as their coach now and like i said, i think people who know gruden weren't too surprised this is the real person that was revealed in these emails. >> how indicative is this, ben, of other coaches, perhaps in the nfl, or, you know, just football in general? as you said, this is like -- it is sort of every bad stereotype, right, of what you would imagine it could be. but it is all there. so just how pervasive is it in 2021? >> i think it is still there. especially from the football guys who are from the old school, who are, you know, pre-demaurice smith when he came into the league in 2009, 2010, pre-social media. gruden is from -- he got his start in the '90s. totally different era. boys will be boys. that said, it is a little remarkable to me that jon gruden is the only one catching shrapnel from this. this is from an investigation into the washington football team and their culture of misogyny over several decades. and why is dan snyder's emails, why are his not getting -- why is jon gruden the only one. there are 650,000 emails as part of this case, and so far gruden's are the only ones -- emails who became public. the nfl didn't even prepare a written report on daniel snyder and the washington football team. where are his emails? why did the raiders -- why did they allow jon gruden to coach this last weekend when they knew there were other emails that were potentially going to come out? they knew of the content of these emails? so gruden is certainly taking the hit here, and no one feels sorry for him, but there are some other people around the league who i think need to take some responsibility as well. >> yeah, and you mentioned yet one more hot button issue there, that is the changing of the name of the redskins to the washington football team. we'll see what more comes out of those other emails. ben volin, thank you for coming on. >> thank you. still to come this hour, house speaker nancy pelosi says the guidance she is receiving from house members is this, do fewer things well. that means what that means and the tough decisions ahead for her and her party. plus, a subpoena showdown. a critical week for the committee investigating the january 6th insurrection. a member telling cnn this morning criminal referrals could come, quote, very fast. and the virginia governor's race reigniting the debate over just how involved parents should be in school curriculum. what's taught. we'll discuss. ♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ at vanguard, you're more than just an investor, you're an owner with access to financial advice, tools and a personalized plan that helps you build a future for those you love. vanguard. become an owner. ♪"you are the reason" by calum scott♪ to all the kisses... ...that led... ...to this one. celebrate every kiss, with kay. sustainability is essential to creating a better tomorrow. that's why cisco is committed to achieving net zero emissions by 2040. and we believe our smart buildings solutions can help. providing power to reduce emissions, intelligence to eliminate waste, and collaboration tools that help the workplace and the planet. between meeting human needs and a sustainable future, there's a bridge. cisco, the bridge to possible. it's another day. and anything could happen. it could be the day you welcome 1,200 guests and all their devices. or it could be the day there's a cyberthreat. only comcast business' secure network solutions give you the power of sd-wan and advanced security integrated on our activecore platform so you can control your network from anywhere, anytime. it's network management redefined. every day in business is a big day. we'll keep you ready for what's next. comcast business powering possibilities. if you're turning 65 soon or over 65 and planning to retire... now's the time to learn more about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan from unitedhealthcare and get help protecting yourself from the out-of-pocket costs medicare doesn't pay. because the time to prepare is before you go on medicare. don't wait. get started today. call unitedhealthcare for your free decision guide. today, the house is expected to vote to extend the nation's debt limit after the senate approved a stopgap measure through early december. crisis averted. despite that, president biden's larger economic agenda remains in jeopardy. and speaker pelosi says, quote, difficult decisions must be made very soon. cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox is on capitol hill following all the latest developments for us. i would say that maybe the speaker is hinting at something, but i think that's a pretty clear statement as opposed to a hint there. >> reporter: exactly. it is go time soon for democrats. negotiations have to really kick off this week in terms of what they're going to include in that bigger social safety net bill and what has to get cut. this is going to reveal the deeper schisms between progressives and moderate democrats in the house of representatives, a skirmish we have seen play out in the last several weeks on capitol hill. question becomes how big are democrats going to go and how many programs are they going to include? the president and moderate democrats floated a number somewhere in the neighborhood of $2 trillion for this bill. that is significantly smaller than the $3.5 trillion bill that the house was looking at trying to complete this year. in a letter to her colleagues last night, house speaker nancy pelosi said, quote, overwhelmingly, the guidance i'm receiving from members is to do fewer things well. so that we can still have a transformative impact on families in the workplace, and responsibly address the climate crisis. she is hinting there that the strategy going forward may be that some of the programs, some of those social programs that democrats had hoped to include in this bill may not be included. and you heard some democrats argue that they could take another shot at this next year, when they have another special budget tool to use. but what that means is progressives are going to have it look at what they might be willing to cut here. because democrats want to make sure that whatever they enact has a real impact on families, and that might have some effect at the ballot box in the midterms when democrats are going to be having to run on whatever programs they actually pass. jim and erica? >> lauren fox, appreciate it, thank you. new this morning, congressman adam schiff says getting former trump associates to cooperate with subpoenas will be a test of our justice system and democracy. a warning about what's to come if that cooperation doesn't take place. take a listen. >> days, weeks, months in terms of when the criminal referral will come? >> it will come very fast if people refuse to cooperate and have no basis for the refusal. it will come very fast. >> he's not saying we're considering it. he's saying it will come if they continue to refuse to cooperate. our understanding is that mark meadows and kash patel are engaging with the panel. former trump adviser steve bannon says, however, he will not cooperate. joining us now to speak about what comes next, elie honig, a former federal and state prosecutor. good to have you on. those words are meaningful there, right? we were talking as recently as last week of what do they do if the refusals continue. i'm curious what the timeline is. if a bannon refuses to cooperate, they slap him with a criminal referral, one of the frustrations watching all this is how long these things can be dragged out and they don't seem to go anywhere. would you expect something like this to go somewhere and soon? >> yeah, jim, so the key word was will, these referrals will come and will come fast. when you get a politician saying that, nothing is off the table, that was a solid commitment by adam schiff. there is two questions on timing here. one, how quickly will congress send this over to doj? they should be ready to do that at the end of this week because the deadline for testimony for steve bannon and the other witnesses is this thursday and friday, october 14th, 15th. if those witnesses no show, if they defy, not in active negotiations, congress needs to be ready to vote on contempt, then send it over to doj. then question two is how long does doj take to consider this, whether or not to file the charges. that's entirely up to merrick garland. you're right, delay seems to be one of the strategies here, it worked in the past for trump and his people. and really only congress and the courts can do anything about that. >> you also bring up attorney general merrick garland, and we talked about him in the last week or so too in terms of will he or won't he act here? based on what we have seen, what is the thinking, elie? >> well, one of the really interesting things that i think came out of representative schiff's interview on "new day" is he was specifically and directly putting pressure on merrick garland to act when john berman asked representative schiff, you know, look, congress has not had much luck, much success in getting anywhere in its investigations in the past, what schiff says was, well, that was under bill barr and now it is different. we'll see whether it makes any difference for merrick dgarland. doj is very reluctant to charge criminal contempt of congress cases. they have not charged one of them in over 50 years. and even over the last decade we have seen doj pass on charging bill barr, wilbur ross, that's both parties doj, both parties subject, but doj has not been willing to bring these charges. it is on the books. it is a crime for a reason. and it is inexplicable to me how doj has not charged these. >> what does the congressional subpoena mean? if you or i or they can refuse and reliably under democratic or republican leadership not be referred for criminal charges, does that make it a worthless piece of paper? >> you hit on the existential question here. what does a congressional subpoena mean? this is a question of how serious is congress about enforcing its own enforcement power? we have seen congress take the slow route, we have seen doj standing on the sidelines doing nothing. we have seen our judiciary, our judges taking way too long on these cases. until those things change, you're right, a congressional subpoena is just a piece of paper. >> wow. >> yeah. >> interesting to see. >> we will keep asking you to see as this moves through the system as it does. thanks so much for coming on. well, gas prices you may have noticed at the pump are soaring. supply chains disrupted. the things you order take longer to get to you. the ones paying the price, you and me. is there an end in sight? live team coverage next. we're moments away from the opening bell on wall street. futures barely moving higher, but we'll take every little bit of green we can get after closing lower yesterday amid concerns of those rising oil and gas dow really trying to avoida third straight day of losses. there are concerns about economy inflation. and they're looking at the jobs opening data. that comes out next hour. hey, dad! hey, son! no dad, it's a video call. you got to move the phone in front of you like..like it's a mirror, dad. you know? 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>> we should note that comparing to prices during the pandemic is a little apples and oranges because there was a real trough in demand due to the shutdown of the world economy. but it is definitely going up well beyond where we were prior and, christine, a lot of political charges going back and forth about who is to blame for this. is this a market issue or a policy issue? what is driving it up? >> this has been called the shortage economy, and around the world, a global interconnected supply chain, one little blip and it goes -- it affects everything, right? you see store shelves that are empty. you see goods that you're buying, the packages are getting smaller, prices are going up. listen to the executive director of the port of los angeles about the backlog of ships. >> what this is is a wake-up call for all of us in this industry to realize you can't operate with the motto of yesterday. >> port is backed up. the truckers are backed up. everyone is backed up. it is a big problem. >> and this is because the economy crashed. think about it, all this cargo that used to fly around in the belly of passenger planes, passenger travel stopped. there are backlogs for months and months, and glitches in supply chain where people can't get the goods they need to make their products. sneakers, for example, a third wave of coronavirus in vietnam, and you saw clothing, sneakers, purses, all of these things you can't get for christmas by some of these brands because the factories closed, they don't have the goods. there will be a backlog of artificial christmas trees. there are 10% fewer artificial christmas trees. cars. we told you about the chip shortage for cars. this has to do with the shortage of drivers, with vaccinated workforces, unvaccinated workforces, and just a complete disconnect in supply and demand. really honestly crushed by covid and then the recovery was so fierce, nobody could really keep up. >> and that semiconductor issue, with cars too. those all important chips a major issue. it is all interconnected and i guess we just buckle up and try to find our patience somewhere. pete muntean, christine romans, thank you, both. the extent of a parent's influence on what their child is being taught in school now a hot topic in the governor's race in virginia. we'll discuss after this. so, you're recalibrating and reconnecting to the environment. seeing yourself as an artist - legitimate and genuine - can be transformational. daddy! for the best audio entertainment and storytelling. audible. with clean, fresh ingredients, panera's new chicken sausage and pepperoni flatbread is a mouthwatering explosion of yes. craft? 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>> they do. they get to elect school boards. if you don't like them, you get rid of them. >> joining us now, cnn politics editor at large chris cillizza. the issue here, as always, what was he really saying? he's saying elect the school boards, don't come shouting at the school board meeting or chase the kids as they're waking out of school. does that explanation solve the problem? >> yeah, so, breaking news, politics strips nuance out of political rhetoric, right? so he's -- the broad point he's trying to make is i don't want parents coming in and making rules about mask debate, masking and all that sort of stuff. the problem is that quote that we just played fits very nicely into a 30-second ad that glenn youngkin spent a million dollars on that ad alone. i've seen it, you've seen it. that ad is everywhere right now. there is a reason for it. because it is an umbrella of issues. it is not entirely clear he's talking about -- is he talking about masking, vaccinations, critical race theory, talking about transgender and bathroom issues. youngkin is using it to -- it is a stand-in for this sort of broader idea of this is what democratic governance looks like. >> yeah. >> it is also -- in many ways, right, like these snippets, right, and politics which as you say so well strips all the nuance out, what it does too is it actually takes away an important conversation, right. so should we be having a discussion about really banned books or what is taught, should there be a more fulsome history of the united states that is being taught that hasn't been whitewashed? these are all important issues that could be discussed at a school board meeting, could be discussed in each district, there is not any sort of discussion happening because it is all reduced to sound bites and sort of, you know, gotcha political points. >> yeah, you know, erica, i think there is a couple of things there. number one, a campaign is very rarely the best place to have a serious policy discussion. it winds up being -- well you said this little thing that i can clip into a short thing or put on an ad or put on flyers. and the other thing is that, you know, we remain in virginia and everywhere else deeply polarized. what is youngkin trying to do? two things, he's trying to rev up his base on critical race theory. i don't think most people understand but they hear it and say we don't want that. on things like transgender students, things like vaccinations, all reactive partisan issues. and then he's also and this will be the key to whether it works really or not, he's trying to sort of use this in the northern virginia outer suburbs to say don't you want a say in your kid's education? terry mcauliffe knows politics. when you say something like that, it is going to get used against you. >> stand by for the attempted cleanup. chris, this race, as we said with the recall in california, and as we likely will say about every race between now and the end of time is being viewed as a referendum to some degree, not just on trump, but on biden. is that true, one, and where does the race stand? >> yeah, so, what terry mcauliffe is trying to do is make it a referendum on trump. saying that trump and youngkin are the same. donald trump is very unpopular in the democratic base. i think the problem for terry mcauliffe is as prominent as donald trump remains, he is not the president. joe biden is the president. and biden's numbers in virginia and virtually everywhere else have sunk. and particularly have sunk among independents. he won independents by 14 points in 2020 over donald trump. his ratings among independents in the high 30s. his approval rating. this is a huge problem. if you talk to the mcauliffe people behind the scenes and they're honest with you, they'll say, look, joe biden struggles among independents and more broadly people don't approve of the job he's doing is really hurting us in northern virginia, which is a reminder has the vast majority of votes. i think that's why this race is getting closer candidly. biden dragging mcauliffe down a little bit. and youngkin found an issue, it is an issue that encompasses so much. this broad umbrella. not one little thingmen mentthi. he doesn't want you involved in your kids education, which is not what he said. those two things made this race tighter. i think terry mcauliffe today, the vote was today, might edge it out. the trend lines don't look good and terry mcauliffe, the thing he needs more than anything is the thing he can control the least. joe biden's approval numbers to bump up a little bit. >> it is why you heard him say that biden and democrats pass infrastructure, right? 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there is yet more scrutiny for facebook this morning as another whistle-blower comes forward saying she is willing to testify before congress about her former employer. >> she says she felt like she had, quote, blood on her hands after working at the tech giant for nearly three years. brian stelter joining us now. brian, she was fired last year but says she's now brought information about facebook to authorities. what more do we know about what that information is? >> right. she won't name which federal agency she's shared the information with, but she told our colleague she has handed that over and is willing to testify. when she first came forward to the guardian newspaper, there was not as much attention around her allegations. she's trying to say that, saying she is happy to speak in a more public forum and share what she knows with regards to whatever she has handed over. we don't know what she's handed over. but she provided documents to the ftc and other organizations. it's notable to see multiple former staffers saying we have the goods, we're showing you what we know to be wrong inside of facebook. one of zhang's top complaints, she says the company doesn't do enough to tackle hate and information in smaller countries. the united states, there's been a lot of attention around these issues, less so in other countries. facebook disputes that, but it reminds me of what "wall street journal" reporter jeff horowitz said, he said the version of facebook we have in the united states is the best one, the safest one. there are more problems with the platform elsewhere. >> she talks about cases in mya myanmar, ethiopia, where the site is used to carry out violence against ethnic groups. i wonder if you have another ftc complaint about the graphic video the site refuses to take down. folks have been hearing about whistle-blowers, they've seen the sworn testimony before congress. we've heard about the failure to police itself for years from facebook. where does the chances of legislation stand or regulation stand or are we still in this kind of zone where one thing happens and you move on to the next? >> i think we're in that zone, jim. we have to be skeptical about congressional action, but we're seeing a thousand points of pressure, whether it's former employees, andy parker, who will speak in a few minutes in washington and draw attention to his case. he has drawn a complaint to the ftc about the video of his daughter allison's death. allison parker was murdered on live tv in 2015, and those videos still circulates on sites like youtube and facebook. he's drawn attention saying i should not have to see my daughter's murder on the internet. he's filed a complaint with the ftc alleging unfair trade practices. it's a thousand points of pressure on facebook. whether that leads up to congressional action is a big, big question. >> i've spoken to parker's father. no reason any parent in the world should have to tolerate that. amazing. >> brian, thank you. still to come, the governor of texas banning private companies from enforcing vaccine mandates. is that illegal? what about the state's other vaccine requirements? 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