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lost. as my wife says all the time, a professor, any country that outeducates us is going to outcompete us. the work of our time is to prepare ourselves to be competitive to win the fast-changing 21st century global economy. that's why i propose two critical pieces of legislation, being debated here in washington right now. one focuses on the investments we need to make in the physical infrastructure of america, roads, brings, ports, et cetera. the second focus on the investments we need to make in the american people to make us more competitive. i know this is my legislation, and i feel strongly about it, but the people who have the most at stake are the american people, so we need to stay focused on what these bills will mean for people who are looking for a little bit of breathing room, a fair chance to build a decent middle class life and rather than hanging on by their fingernails. we need to keep an eye on what's fundamentally at stake for the country, the ability to compete and win the race for the 21st century as we do the 20th century, a race that other countries are doing everything they can to win n.recent years china has spent around three times as much on infrastructure and three times as much as a share of its economy that the united states has. our investments bill makes investments that we night to rebuild the art rivers our economy, the roads, the highways, the brings, the ports, the airports, the rails, and we're going to allow us to replace lead water pipes which are poisoning our children and families. it's ridiculous. build a modern energy grid that can withstand storms and carry renewable energy across america. make high-speed internet affordable and available to everyone in america and create good union jobs in the process of putting that together. we'll make the largest investment in public transit in american history and we'll make the most investments on our rail since the corrosion of amtrak jeers ago. is it enough and if we're going to invest we also have to invest in our people with the big back better plan. that's what it does. today half of the 3-year-old and 4-year-olds are enrolled in early childhood education. in germany, france, the uk, latvia, that number is more than 90%. we're falling behind. it's not just early education. according to one study, america ranks, catch this, america ranks 33rd out of the 44 advanced economies when it comes to the percentage of our young people who have attained a post high school degree. the united states, 33rd out of 44? my build back better plan gets us back on track to making four additional years of public education available for every person in america. two years of high quality pre-school on the front end which indicates that over 56% of the children will be able to go through all 12 years and beyond without any -- any interruption and investments in community college so our students can gain the skills they need and carve out a place for themselves in the 21st century economy. we're going to help build families and we're going to help them care for their new baby a child, an elderly relative. will extend. -- it will help us tackle climate change and become a global leader in solar energy and wind power. the whole world newsknows that the future of the auto industry is electric, electric, and battery technology. we need to make sure america builds that future instead of falling behind. we should build those vehicles and the batteries that go into them and the charging stations they are going to need, the 500,000 we're going to build across america. here in the united states we should be doing this, and, look, if we get this done, we're going to breathe new life into our economy and our workforce and we're going to breathe cleaner air at the same time. these are the kinds of investments that will get america back in the game and give our workers a chance, a fighting chance. economists left, right and center agree. earlier this year moody's on wall street projected that the investments in these bills will bring us a higher gdp and an additional 2 billion jobs per year. these jobs are not left versus right or modern versus progressive or anything else that pits americans against each other. these bills are about competitiveness versus complacency. competitiveness versus complacency, opportunity versus decay. they are about leading the world or whether we'll let the world pass us by. the american people understand what's at stake here. they understand that when workers abtds families have a better shot, america has a better shot. given half a chance, the american people have never ever, ever let their country down. today we received more evidence of the progress that we're make, and i know we can make a lot more in the days ahead. i want to thank you and god bless you all and may god protect our troops. thank you. >> you've just been listening to president biden there speaking about that disappointing jobs report, not taking questions as you see. we're going to bring in our reporters, but just a couple of notes from what the president had to say. again this, report that came out this morning, 194,000 jobs added. that's less than half of what was expected. unemployment at 4.8, and there are a lot of questions about what this says about the current state of not only the jobs market but of the economy. we're going to continue to dig in on that. the president touting progress saying in his words that they are making real progress that may not appear dramatic enough but focusing on, again, what he says is progress in terms of job growth since his inauguration and also using this moment to really tout his agenda. talking about infrastructure, talking about that reconciliation, the build back better bill that democrats are working to craft, not only craft but find top line numbers and we have our people ready to go back. jeremy diamond, let's start with you. president biden not focusing too much on the details of that report which were not exactly glowing and instead to really push his agenda. >> yeah. you know, erica, what real struck me the most is frankly how combative the president was in trying to defend his economic record and what this jobs report actually shows. in the past we've seen the presidents acknowledge that a jobs report wasn't perhaps as good as he had hoped, talked about the fact that ultimately in the long view of things we are seeing progress. today we saw that last part, but it was much more combative. the president talking about a lot of noise in washington but ultimately urging people to look at progress, progress, progress, and what he also did i is he talked about that unemployment number and really honed in on that and that was the beginning of the remarks talking about the fact that this is the first time over a year we're seeing unemployment of 5% and what the president didn't talk was the drop in the up employment rate is actually in large part due to americans dropping out of the labor force. that means people who are unemployed who essentially give up on searching for a job and nothing about that is good, and yet we saw the president there talking about the fact that unemployment rate has dropped to 4.8%. you heard the president say jobs up, wages up, unemployment is down. he said that is progress. what we also saw the president do, of course, there was talk about the fact that in order to further that progress he needs the rest of his agenda passed and that means the infrastructure deal. that means the -- the budget reconciliation bill which would expand the social safety net, address climate change issues as well. of course, on that front, it's not really a question of getting republicans on board. it's a question of getting the democratic caucus to be singing from the same hymn book here, so, again, it was interesting to see how defiant the president was in the face of what economists are generally calling a pretty -- pretty bad jobs report. >> yeah. very weak, you're right and interesting as you point that out. i also thought as you talk about, he was touting moving forward, the agenda and what he feels needs to be done and tying that to the economy as well. it was interesting, lauren, that he made a report to talk about the bipartisan efforts on the debt limit and what we saw last night which is also interesting based only some of the blowback based on what senator schumer had to say and based on the vote and what happened last night. how does he land? >> biden and mcchannel in theet? had a working relationship when the president was the vice president and was the here in the u.s. senate. they have mutual trust for one another and yesterday's speech by majority leader chuck schumer skuk a lot of republicans as a little bit of glowing and rubbing it in. i was walking out with one republican who voted against the raising of the debt ceiling. he thought there was a time for grace on capitol hill and a time for, emblematic. the democrats voted along with democrats -- republicans voted along with democrats to advance the bill on the debt ceiling. that's something that schumer shouldn't have been gloating about on the senate floor. i thought it was interesting that the president laid out a pitch, a pitch to both the progressive and moderate ring of his conference. as we have reported at late there's been infighting here that has led to some questions about whether or not the president's agenda might be impaired pedestrian, the fact that he has joe man season and they don't see eye to eye on how big the social safety net bill should be, and i think that's been one of the reasons that you saw the president trying to set reset today at this speech, trying to say, yes, this jobs report may not have been what we had hoped for, but there's progress. there's a way forward, and democrats, i'm look at you to help me out here that the president game. >> we'll see if that comes through. thank you jost. joining me now is justin wolff, professor of economics and public policy at the university of michigan. i would like to pick up your thoughts of what we just heard from the president. do you agree that this report is about progress and moving forward. maybe not as much as he would like but in the send it sends like it's not so bad. technically it's moving in the right direction but when you give in the right direction pmping it is distressing to see that the recovery is. the riposte dalta variants looks to have scared people and kept them away from work and from jobs? the jobs are one thing, 1 the 4,000 added, less than half of what was expected. he was really touting the un49 rate which would i somehow gud we really read the number? >> the unemployment rate is nowhere near where it was when the verse hit. it is a unusual bay lot poem are it they are tishl find work and it's happening at an extreme number at this time. we're seeing low came and in you mrm -- it might be closer to 6.25%, to 6.5% so this is still an economy that needs a lot of help >> you look at gas prices. you're looking at the price of oil, $80 a million a look at how things -- in it is -- let's if boy in the sky. let's figure they put something together and they get something that people can vote on, is it enough to right this ship very quick little. >> everyone it talking about fiscal money but' s. is the thing wants -- if we want to fix the economy, we need to fix the virus. if we can't do that part of what the president is announcing would be helpful. the strongest argument against his proposals from republicans has been that it would cause the economy to overheat, that anyone who wants a job already has one, that we don't really need this fiscal help. the reality is today's weak numbers help make the case a little bit more that the economy needs help and precisely the form that his packages look set to deliver. >> appreciate you joining us this afternoon. >> thank you. well, steve bannon says he'll many not comply. he's standing with president trump. he's ignoring also a subpoena from the january 6th investigation. the public is asking publicly. brian laundrie's family wouldn't even talk about gabby petito when they were first asked about the investigation. more on that when we return. to make my vision a reality. i have to take every perspective, and see clearly from every point of view. with my varilux progressive lenses i seamlessly transition from near to far. and see every detail in sharp focus. when you see no limits, there are no limits. book now at your local essilor experts to push the limits of your vision. varilux lenses by essilor. people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ ♪ my only sunshine... ♪ rybelsus® works differently than any other diabetes pill to lower blood sugar in all 3 of these ways... increases insulin when you need it... decreases sugar... and slows food. the 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seen in trump's financials made public since we started down this path. something to keep in mind here is that congress has been chasing these kind of details that we're seeing here for years. i mean, when president trump was in office and afterwards. the first time we're seeing this outline and the most notable thing that you mentioned is the money that came in from foreign governments. the committee is estimating that about $3.7 million went to trump from foreign governments and this is money that flowed through his d.c. hotel and was never disclosed. as you said, it's a conflict of interest and it's also raising questions as to what, if anything, the foreign governments got in return for spending more and despite the fact that he watering getting millions of dollars. the trump hotel report a acof is 56 million but the reality is it was loss of more than 80 million. the loss was so great that the trump hotel had to be loaned more than $24 million from other holding companies. i want to show you here an umbrella of what the committee found. they go through this step by step and talk about how president trump was issued misleading information, that he received preferential treatment to a foreign bank and accepted millions from penalty tis and we have just now heard. basically they are challenging the accounting of the committee. we'll show you this here. they say the allegations made by the house oversight committee are intentionally misleading, irresponsible and unequivocally false. they go on to say that this is a desperate attempt to mislead the american public and defame trump in pursuit of their own agenda, but i've got to tell you, the committee is not done yet and this is an active investigation and there are just so many more questions now, particularly when it comes to those foreign governments, and if they can get this kind of access that they have here, we're looking at some really deep insight shedding light on what essentially has been a black box of trump's finances, erika. >> yeah. you're right. it really does raise so many additional questions. kristen, thank. the art of defiance. former president trump's attorney told these four, former frump aides, to defy subpoenas from a house committee regarding the january 6th insurrection. a source says steve bannon is telling lawmakers he won't cooperate. his lawyers say it's for the courts to decide whether he ultimately has to comply. the same source saying mark meadows also did respond to the xhirt. it's not clear, however, what meadows said. what is clear is that the investigation is stopped between a rock and a threat of executive privilege. trump saying he'll try to use that tactic. joining us now is a special judiciary committee committee attorney and ely honig is with the southern district of new york. i'll start with you both. does executive privilege actually apply here? >> thanks for having me back. the ultimate determination as to whether executive privilege exists or not is for the biden administration because they are the current orders of the privilege bus they do not think executive privilege applies because they have let former trump administration officials testify about these subjects, the ex-president's assault on the 2020 election, his big lie campaign. two senior doj officials. i think the determination will be that it doesn't apply but there could still be a big court battle about that nonetheless. >> which is something obviously that we have seen before as, you know, things have been dragged out as we've seen. when we look at this, steve bannon saying he's sticking with trump. i'm going here and that i that's not exactly a legal defense. >> sticking with trump is -- if you look at the letter, at first he raises executive privilege. it seems -- it's not definitive but it seems more clear in our law that it's the province of the current president than the prior president and by the way stove bannon was not a member of the executive branch at the time. the second thing that steve bannon and his lawyer invoked which is attorney/client privilege which is utterly nonsensical. steve bannon or donald trump, neither have been in a reshags this and even if they a coverage together that pitch ledge is waved. we saw a deploy tactic but legally it holds no water. >> his attorneys are saying the executive privileges belong to president trump. we must accept his direction and honor his inraegsation. you mentioned that this could go to the courts. what did you think based on your understanding about how the doj could send this over for contempt hearings? >> a criminal prosecution, you can't rely as ely point out. you can't reply to a lawful subpoena by congress with the response i'm sticking with trump or nonsensical if you haven't been white house advisers, so all of that, how do you have executive privilege if you're not a lawyer? how do you have attorney-client privilege? all of that is a contemptuous and can be prosecuted in criminal contempt, or congress has it self itself to go to court. civil attempt or much. . however it breaks, if they defy, i do think congress is going to premt the matter. in less than four months from the nixon taupes. the courts must move quickly and it will be nick on congress and the american possible to do just that. >> those are the roads that are possible. eli, which one do you see being taken? >> they can take both, and i think they will and can take both. they will ask a judge for an order saying you can be testify. there can be fines, monetary penalties and criminal penalties and norm makes a good point. the courts have to move more quickly. no need to take two years like don mcgahn. then could become a criminal matter. if the congress sends this over to the doj, it's merrick gar lapd's call whether or not to bring the -- i would argue we're in an unprecedented situation here. we'll be calling on boast you for all of your expertise. thanks for joining us this morning. coronavirus 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experts are split. here's one thing though that we do seem to be hearing across the board. number ways it's too soon to tell. the covid testing czar under president trump said this. >> we have certainly turned a corner. cases are down 50% from the peak. we've passed the peak of hospitalization and deaths are trailing off. very, very good signs. we're not out of the woods yet. as the surgeon general says there's still a lot of americans who do not have natural immunity and who have not been vaccinated. they are still susceptible. >> joining us now dr. matthew, primary care physician and public health specialist in atlanta. always good to see you. look, i think we all, and i count you firmly in that camp because i know you feel the same way, we all want to know when this will end. we all want it to end. but you were pretty clear even on twittery few moments ago you're not so sure we've turned a corner here. >> yeah. i really have a problem when scientists use the word turning the corner. turning the corner would be when we have daily cases of under 5,000. now we have over 100,000 or slightly below 100000, and when the number of daily deaths are below 100 consistently, going down, then perhaps we're turning the corner. let's not forgot the dark winter of last year. i mean, when i think about winter, i'm not necessarily thinking about christmas carols and thanksgiving dinner. i'm thinking about the number of holidays that are going to be falling back to back. lots of americans traveling. we are record travelers last year. a lot of people are still unvaccinated. 80 million to 90 million people, so once we can get 70% of those vaccinated and we can get the daily cases below 5,000 a day, maybe i sayre we are turning the corner, but not yet. >> those are some of the metrics we can look to to show that we're getting closer then. we did just learn a short time ago that meetings have been scheduled for the vaccine advisers at the cdc for them to look at both boosters for moderna and j&j vaccines and also, i know a lot of parents looking at this, myself included, also for vaccines potentially for younger children. having those meetings on the calendar is a good sign. >> absolutely a good sipe. that's definitely some good news to look forward to, and we have may a surprise for kids in that it might be shots up the arms for kids 5 to 11. this vaccine works well. it showed a good immune response. we also know that kids would be getting one-third dose of adults. that's really key. we wanted to make sure we found the right dose and for the j&j vaccine recipients, hey, guys, we haven't forgotten you. the data is also showing that a second jab of the j&j vaccine offers tremendous protection, especially if it's given six months and also as you mentioned moderna will be following suit. they will be talking about boosters in arms soon so the fda is going to be really busy, but we need to move fast. winter is on its way. >> it certainly is. i know you just got your booster. you've also been seeing, as you pointed out, a fair amount of breakthrough cases. i always think it's important when we talk about breakthrough cases to point out that this vaccine is still incredibly effective. it's doing exactly what it was designed to do which is to keep people from getting seriously ill, keep them out of hospital, keep them from dying. that said, what you're seeing in terms of more breakthrough infections, do you think this is because of the virus that's out there? is it because of a natural waning immunity that would perhaps spark a need for more of the general population to be eligible for boosters? where do you see the connection? >> offia. i think it's a combination of everything that you mentioned. we know that the vaccine immunity will wane over time. that's a given. we know that as scientists the delta variant is twice as contagious as the original strain and we also know that people who are vaccinated unfortunately are sort of being a little more relaxed. just because you're vaccinated or even boosted you still need to wear a mask. i mean, i was so excited to get my booster shot i waited nine months after the second shot, because i'm a huge believer in science. i wanted the fda to give me the bless but just because you're fully vaccinated does not mean you should not wear a imagine. i'm seeing quite a lot of breakthrough infections, at least five to seven per week, but this is the good news. it actually means that your vaccine works. you're recovering at home, and you're not going to the hospital and dying, so for people who are hesitant, please take this message. the vaccine does work. a breakthrough infection doesn't mean that the vaccine is not doing its job of keeping you alive, and that's what is important to know. >> it really is. >> doctor, appreciate it as always. thank you. >> thank you. we have breaking news this hour in the gabby petito case. police now saying publicly that brian laundrie's parents wouldn't talk about petito when first questioned about her disappearance. we have those details next. with credit card debt? 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>> well, police here, north port police here have said for weeks now that the parents have not really been cooperating with them in this investigation, and quite frankly that has been at the core of frustrations for detectives and this community. just minutes ago, actually as we speak, there is a plane flying over this house where the laundries live that says end the silence. justice for gabby. that is still happening weeks after gabby was reported and brian was reported missing. now, it's actually pretty quiet beyond that this morning. we went to the reserve. had no signs of law enforcement there this morning. checked in with north port police. they said this morning they were not there, but that could change at any minute. so, you know, this is interesting to see that there's not a lot of movement at the reserve just a day after cruz laundrie, brian's father, was out there with law enforcement showing them his favorite spots that he was known to frequent in that area, so, again, the frustration coming from north port police over the cooperation or lack thereof from the laundrie family is something that we've been hearing for weeks, but to hear those details of the fact that they were essentially handed a business card of the attorney when they came to ask questions, to hear that they wouldn't answer questions when it came to gabby or that they felt that they were sort of prepared with that attorney information and having the attorney on the phone with them certainly paints the picture as to why that frustration remains among investigators and north port police, but also remember, north port police not alone here. the fbi is also a part of this investigation, but from them, which is common, we're not hearing a lot. it's very tip will can a of the fbi when it comes to investigations. >> yeah. certainly. they don't want to give away too much, even as we would all like some that have information but understandably in the covers an investigation it's tough to do that. really appreciate it as always. thank you. also with us criminologist and behavioral analyst casey jordan. so casey, a police spokesman telling cnn they found the behavior of brian laundrie's parents odd on the day they reported him missing. you know, as laila was just reporting they were only asking questions about their son. they wouldn't answer questions about gabby. my question to you is not just what you make of that, but what's interesting to me is now that police are talking about it, right? mean, as it was laid out there's a reason we don't learn about certain things in the course of a investigation, but there's also reasons why we do learn about things. >> that is absolutely correct. i mean, as an example, we keep waiting for the cause of death, and i assure you they know the cause of death but we the public don't need to know, that so, of course, they found it odd. i mean, compare the behavior of gabby's parents who were frantically trying to report her missing to any law enforcement entity that would listen to them and were getting the big shuffle, and then, of course, one week later brian laundrie's parents call on the day her body is found and say they haven't seen his son and gone missing. of course that's odd, the fact that they had a lawyer on speaker phone during their conversations with the police to report their son missing is extremely odd, but the police don't come right out and say that because they don't want to alienate the laundrie family which i totally understand. you want to try to gain their trust, get them to cooperate, get them to talk to you. so the reason they didn't call it odd from the outset is because they were trying to get the laundrie family to work with them, and here we are two weeks later, more than two weeks later, no sign of brian laundrie, and they have given up the ghost on that. i think it will be kind of a full-court press from here on out. >> that's interest, too, because that comes on the heels of hearing from the family attorney that they actually brought in brian laundrie's father chris to help, according to the attorney, to help with the search. that timing i have >> help in quote aks marks. i don't know that he's helping because at this point law enforcement isn't going to come out and say this but i think that they have concluded after all of the weeks of searching the preserve with hundreds of thousands of dollars and hundreds of searchers,ee not there and probably never ever was. so if you are considering that the whole idea that he went camping there and the planting of the mustang at the parking lot was just part of a big hoax, a red herring to buy time tor brian laundrie to go elsewhere an to become a fugitive from justice which he is officially now. then you understand that the parents and the father going through the preserve to show them favorite sites is just more red herring hoax and i think that the police took that little tour with him to monitor his behavior and talk that opportunity to watch him, to listen to him, to try to analyze his behavior and figure out whether he's being truthful and whether they'll waste any more time in the preserve. >> do you think based on your experience, do you think he's alive. >> i absolutely think he's alive but i don't think he's in the preserve. i don't even think he's in the united states at this point. and keep in mind they were surveilling him to best extent of the law but no one actually saw him. so he could have been gone from the first of september, not the 17th of september. he had present yeah of time to make his escape if that is his plan. >> great to talk to you. texas clippics are resuming abortions after a judge's ruling but many concern fearing another legal setback. we'll get you updated with the very latest, next. why not both? 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