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safer with seat belts, the government took action. and with opioids the government took action. i am pour you to do the same here. >> the nearly 5% drop, while ceo mark zuckerberg, $6 billion, with a "b." in this span of just a few hours, that hit coincided with monday's worldwide outage for facebook and two major facebook services, instagram and whatsapp. the first domino that really set off this stretch of bad news was frances haugen. last month, she leaked thousands of internal records to "the wall street journal." and those documents indicate facebook had shrugged off hard evidence showing the damage that instagram platform was doing, including its potentially toxic effect on teens, especially girls. cnn's donie o'sullivan has been all over the story. donie, you've been listening closely to the testimony, the hearing. we heard a pretty disturbing account of the social media giant that apparently is willing to grow the all costs. >> reporter: yeah, frances haugen, the facebook whistle-blower is proving to be an incredibly powerful witness. she's a tech insider, but she's able to speak and explain these, you know, rather complicated algorithms and how these systems work in a way that normal people can understand. have a listen. >> facebook understands that if they want to continue to grow, they have to find the users. they have to make sure that the next generation is just as engaged with instagram as the current one. and the way they'll do that is by making sure that children establish habits before they have good self-regulation. >> by hooking kids? >> by hooking kids. i'd like to emphasize one of the documents we sent in on problematic use examines the rates of problematic use by age, that peaked to 14 year olds. it's just like cigarettes. teenagers don't have good self-regulation. they say explicitly, i feel bad when i use staiinstagram, and y can't stop. >> reporter: senators on both sides of the aisle here seem to be rather impressed by haugen, even suggests they could work for bipartisan legislation to crack down. ana. >> facebook has had numerous regulations over the years. is this one different? >> reporter: yeah, in the past, it's been about data, it's been about russian trolls, that sort of thing. this is about the most vulnerable people in our society. children. it's about young people. and unfortunately, it's an an incredibly relatable story, the one she's telling how these algorithms are promoting accounts to young girls about eating disorders, anorexia and things like that, how misinformation and hate is being amplified throughout the platform. the fact this is about children. frankly, it's a conversation that we all should have been having a very long time ago. i think that is what's different and where we're seeing that bipartisanship. >> donie o'sullivan, you've done a good job on reporting on this issue. thank you. let's bring in child psychologist dr. victoria duncan right now. she's the author of "reset your child's brain." doctor, great to have you with us. thanks for being here. as a parent myself, i've been listening very closely to this testimony, and it is so disturbing. really hits close to home for me personally as i have a child almost 10 years old. for years, you've been, you know, raising the alarm about the effect that social media could be having on kids. was there anything you heard from this whistle-blower that made you think, oh, this is worse than i thought? >> i don't think i think it's worse than i thought. but it's definitely in a way -- you know, the silver lining of all of this is that it's coming to everyone's attention. those of us who are in the trenches and know these things are going on with these big techle companies for years, they're beholden to shareholders, not to the general public. that's not in their best interest. so, i think one of the things about the study that was interesting to me, they're asking if kids themselves, if they feel better or worse after using these platforms. but when someone's addicted to something, they don't have the insight, and they're using it in some way because they're addicted to it. so, my thought about the study is that these impacts are actually worse than the study is revealing. because you're asking people who are impacted by addictive processes. >> and they may not be as honest even with themselves about the negative effects or harmfulness of some of the platforms they're using. >> exactly. right. and the whole self-preservation piece, once those self-addictive process ces get activated self-discipline, judgment, all of those things get worse, the more someone uses screens, tons of social media, video games, whatever the activity is. so they tend to have worst judgment over time. >> we also heard that these apps may be changing high school itself. let's watch. >> in the case of bullying, facebook knows that instagram dramatically changes the experience of high school. when i was in high school, you know, most kids have positive home lives. it doesn't matter how bad it is at school. kids can go home and reset for 16 hours. kids who are bullied on instagram, the bullying follows them home. it follows them into their bedrooms. the last thing they see before they go to bed at night is someone being cruel to them. or the first thing they see in the morning is someone being cruel to them. kids are learning that their own friends, people who they care about to them are cruel to them. think about how that's goes to impact their domestic relationships. >> basically, it's easier to bully. harder to avoid the bullying. and kids are internalizing all of that vitriol. are these social media sites inherently dangerous, should kids be on them at all? >> that's a conversation that even needs to be had. is it even appropriate for kids or teens to be using these sites altogether. one of the things i believe, parents should avoid social media altogether until the child is an adult and can decide for themselves. there's a growing movement of people who are delaying the use of social media. all of those things because the research is coming out showing it impacts their brain. there's actually brain changes that happen over time. we don't know if those are permanent or not but we know from brain imaging studies, the more screen time, the more it affects the white matter, the connectivity in the brain. so these things are really concerning. and i think i would like to see it go the way of tobacco. that we're looking at these things as something as addictively and it changes the brain. and therefore, it's not appropriately for children at all. >> so, there's that addiction component that you, i know, focus your research on. but i want to read a couple quotes from facebook. internal research that was leaked by this whistle-blower said 32% of teen girls said that when they felt bad about their bodies, instagram made them feel worse. teens blame instagram for increases in rate of anxiety and depression. and among teens who reported suicidal thought it's, 13% of british users and 6% of american using traced the desire to kill themselves. so why do you think facebook, instagram is having this kind of impact on teens? >> i think as other experts have mentioned one thing that's specific to instagram, it's very focused on image. it's, you know, it's showing your best life. it's showing -- it's using filters. it's not real. and then if you look at that especially as a teen, you're constantly comparing. so, i think instagram in particular is harmful in that way. but really, all of these -- all of the social media platforms can have, you know, impact like that. not just in terms of content, but in terms of the physiological impact and the addictive component. >> facebook is aware of all of this. they haven't really addressed it. "the wall street journal" reports that even -- you know, they try to downplay this aspect in public. what do you think needs to happen, one, for accountability? and, two, to create a less harmful experience? >> well, i'm not sure if there can be that. i think what the research shows the kids who can tolerate social media and who might benefit from it, are kids who are already very healthy. they're brain is already more resilient. they have a good home life. they have high self-esteem and maybe they benefit from a particular group. that's a small minority from kids who are desperate or lonely or have hard times going out. we just really need to be as parents, as clinicians, educators, i feel like there needs to be a push away from social media altogether. and, you know, sometimes, it just takes trying it for a few weeks and parents can let it go. and they can see the relief in their child. they can see they're sleeping better. they're happier. sometimes, kids need on excuse. and having the parent remove it is their excuse for getting off of it. >> i really appreciate that guidance and avice. thank you for providing your insight. >> thank you, ana. thank you for having me. while that hearing resumes in washington, in a few hours president biden will be landing in michigan he's there for sweeping bills that have been held up for weeks as democrats bicker over the bills. the democrats have floated a rake of 1.9 trillion to 2.2. one of the holdouts on that bill, senator joe manchin said he's not ruling out that compromise. cnn's kaitlan collins is at the white house. kaitlan, senator manchin seems open to it. progressives haven't weighed in. they initially wanted 3.5 trillion. is this something progress? >> reporter: i think it's notable that senator manchin did not rule out that price tag it's higher than last week speaking to reporters. cnn was told on that call one of the conversations with the progressives, congresswoman jayapal said that number needed to be higher than that change than what president biden believes that senator manchin and senator sinema will accept. i think this complicates the president's trip today which is intent on selling this plan and his larger domestic agenda to the public. and he can certainly do that with the infrastructure plan that is waiting to get a vote in the house. that, of course, is what's been at the center of all of this as progressives have said they will not vote yes on that until they see what this other larger social policy package is going to look like. and they still don't know the price tag for that. so it does make it a little harder for the president to sell it because, of course, it's expected to go down from that initial 3.5 trillion he rolled out. and it's going to be downsized. and what both sides believe is a reality. and raises questions how much money goes into certain priorities in this compromise that they're aiming for right now so, i still think a lot of questions as to what this is actually going to end up with. but we should note, democrats are hoping to move quickly on this. days, not waiting for the deadline set for the end of this month. >> there's also the debt ceiling and if the senate doesn't act in just 13 days the u.s. will default on its debt for the first time in u.s. history. president biden, we heard, tried to shame republicans into action. yesterday. he said he'd be speaking to senator mitch mcconnell. any movement there? >> reporter: there is still complete disagreement between these two parties how to resolve this issue. you're right. we're talking about infrastructure and what the president's domestic agenda is going to look like when it comes to that social policy. this is much more immediate. this is something that you saw several lawmakers saying if they don't start to address this, starting today, that there are serious issues in less than two weeks from now when they have no consensus how to proceed with this. you're seeing republicans including senator mitch mcconnell dig in on the position saying they're not going to help democrats raise the debt ceiling. they're saying they need to use that complicated process known as reconciliation. democrats say no, they don't need to use that but they aren't exactly ruling that out. whether or not they come to an agreement on that remains to be seen, of course it has major implications how they decide to move forward as they get closer and closer to the deadline. >> thank you, kaitlan collins from the white house. also, johnson & johnson asking the fda to green light a booster for its covid-19 vaccine. what this could mean for millions of americans who got j&j single shots. plus, an angry mob called for his hanging on january 6th. now former vice president mike pence is brushing it off and blaming someone else entirely. and the sister of brian laundrie speaking not a new interview, what she's saying about her brother's potential whereabouts. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. ♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ if you have this... and you get this... you could end up with this... unexpected out-of-pocket costs. which for those on medicare, or soon to be, is a good reason to take charge of your health care. so consider this. an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan from unitedhealthcare. why? 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>> reporter: ana, johnson & johnson says that their vaccine is effective. remember it's the one-shot vaccine. they say it's effective at one shot but even more effective, if you look at their numbers, much more effective as a two-shot vaccine. so, let's take a look at the numbers that johnson & johnson has put out. what they say as a single shot it's 53% effective against moderate to severe covid-19. but a second shot, eight weeks later, they say it makes it 75% effective against moderate to severe covid-19. so, 75% is still not as effective as moderna or pfizer. and i should note, these numbers are from global clinical trials. they say that actually the boosters seem to work much, much better for folks in the united states. it's not entirely clear why that would be. and i think that's one of the questions that folks at the fda are going to have. let's take a look at how often people in the u.s. are getting johnson & johnson. it was supposed to be sort of the big vaccine. it was only one shot, instead of two. people thought that people would like that. and along it's been around the block. it doesn't white work that way. if you take a look at all of the people vaccinated in the united states, 55% gotten pfizer, 37% moderna. and just 8% johnson & johnson. ana. >> elizabeth cohen, thank you. joining us dr. rhiner. hi there. j&j says its vaccine is stable but that extra dose does make it much, much better in terms of protection. do you think this will be approved? >> it's an interesting question, ana. maybe the most interesting aspect of j&j's data, they're overall efficacy against infection, at about 80%, is stable over six months. now that can be boosted over 90% on, almost 94%, by either a boost of two months after the first shot. or six months after the first shot. but i think the major question for the fda committee is not going to be whether the boost works. but whether you actually need the boost of the j&j vaccine. so that will be interesting discussion the week after next. >> and this is different from pfizer's in that the request didn't target a specific time line or group that j&j is requesting to receive this booster. what do you make of that? >> i'm not sure j&j knows what to do with their data. they have a fairly stable vaccine that can be made a little bit more potent, so to speak, by adding a booster. i think the major discussion, again, is going to be in which patients does this boost really matter? is it more important in the elderly? we'll have to see. it's an interesting discussion. and in contrast to the pfizer data which really does seem to suggest that the pfizer vaccine increases in efficacy over time. it doesn't seem to be the same increase with the j&j vaccine. >> and i wanted to ask you about that because there's a new real life study that really confirms the standard two doses of the pfizer vaccine. it holds strong over time for protection against hospitalization and death at 90%. but it's protection against the mile infection, so any kind of symptom, it wanes significantly over time, down to 47% efficacy in that regard after vaccination. does that just bolster the argument that everyone should get booster shots? >> i think so. look, the pfizer vaccine, and really all the vaccines are really effective against preventing hospitalization or death. but the data does show that six months out, with the pfizer vaccine, the efficacy against infection is barely 50%. and these breakthrough infections, while perhaps not requiring hospitalization, and certainly, very unlikely to be fatal, can be very troublesome. can keep you out of work for a long time. and if your kids get infected, you know, your adolescents who get vaccinated get infected, you're likely to stay home. so there is an important and economic imperative not to get imeffected. so, i do think you'll see over time boosters really made available to everybody. >> the main focus is still trying to get people their first shot, right? golden state warrior andrew wiggins just got his. and he was a longtime holdout. and he wasn't happy about getting the vaccine. take a listen. >> it feels good to play. but, you know, getting vaccinated, that's going to be something that, you know, stays in my mind for a long time. not something i wanted to do. but it was kind of forced on me. so, i took a gamble. i took a risk. you know, hopefully, like i said, i'm good. >> what's the reaction of him saying he was forced to do this? and he's calling it a risk. >> yeah, he's got it 180 degrees wrong. he's not taking a risk by getting vaccinated. you're taking a gigantic gamble, not just with your health, but the health of your family, if you don't get vaccinated. so, he really needs to rethink this. he's got it wrong. i'm glad he got vaccinated. but this shows you that essentially vaccine mandates, what they do, for compliance in the united states, with vaccination. they increase the number of people who get vaccinated. i don't really care whether he's happy about it or not. i'm glad he got vaccinated. he did the right thing even if he took a circuitous route to doing it. i hope more people follow his lead. >> dr. raeiner, thank you for al you do. >> my pleasure, thank you, ana. former vice president mike pence is apparently trying to win back the same group that called for his hanging on january 6th. what he's saying now about the violent mob of trump supporters that attacked the capitol. t it. ♪ liberty, liberty - liberty, liberty ♪ uh, i'll settle for something i can dance to. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ age before beauty? 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the former vp is pulling from his former boss' playbook. the same boss who threw him under the bus. while he, his wife and their daughter were fleeing for their lives. and the same boss who pence himself said just this past june that he'll, quote, never see eye to eye with about january 6th. but now -- >> you can't spend almost five years in a political fox hole without developing a strong relationship. and, you know, january 6th was a tragic day in the history of our capitol building. but thanks to the efforts of capitol hill police, federal officials, the capitol was secured. we finished our work. and the president and i sat down a few days later and talked through all of it. i can tell you we parted amicably. >> i want to bring in cnn political commentator, ana navarro, ana, why the change? why the cozying up all of a sudden to trump? >> because he is looking for a political future which is, frankly, nonexistent. but, really, when you listen to those clips, ana, it's, you know, it's so embarrassing, you almost want to feel sorry for the guy. until you realize just how pathetic mike pence is. how can be such a boot licker? how can you be so servile to somebody who did not call off a mob that wanted to hang you? practically anybody else can go and make these arguments, and it wouldn't be so cringe-worthy. but we all heard the mob asking to hang mike pence. hang him. nobody should be as invested in finding out the truth in what's behind january 6th as much as mike pence. because his life, literally, literally, was hanging in the balance. >> and we know the president was on twitter really egging on the president who were at the capitol during that time. and he was -- he was, you know, attacking his vice president, at the time. during those very dangerous moments. so what does this say about trump's grip on republicans, when a man whose life was threatened by these trump supporters contorts himself in knots to excuse their behavior? >> look, it tells you that mike pence is looking for a place in the sun, right? he is looking to be somebody that's in the mix, if donald trump announces he's not going to run. but i just don't see that in the cards. trump supporters don't like mike pence. trump supporters were the ones out there on january 6th. trump supporters fought mike pence and blamed mike pence for not overturning the election results. and those republicans left, likely not trump supporters, don't like mike pence either and don't respect him for having been an accomplice for ten years. somebody like a liz cheney has taken that spot. on the trump side, he's not going to out-trump somebody like a ron desantis. there's no place for him on the republican dance card should trump bow out and say he's not running but he's desperately going to continue this because he's desperate for republican relevance which he needs. >> president trump's public relations secretary stephanie grisham has been out, she has a book. she was asked about the media outlets. listen. >> what was the role of fox news in the white house? >> that's a great question. that's just where we went to get what we wanted out, you know. i looked forward to going and doing lou dobbs, because lou dobbs would do all the talking about how great everything was. and i would just nod and say yes. they, you know, by and large, didn't get tough with us. they just took what we were saying and disseminated it. and i think they're disseminating it to a lot of people who went to the capitol for january 6th. >> grisham also admitted she probably wasn't honest during her fox news interviews. just what she, you know, explaining there, what's your reaction to hearing that? >> i really can't stand it. i find all of these, you know, late developing conscience people in people who served in the trump campaign, or the trump administration repulsive. and look, i know we like the tea she's spilling. i know we like the gossip she's spilling. and it's not often i agree with trump supporters, but she's got no credibility. if she's talking about how she lied on fox interviews, what makes you think she's saying the truth in a cnn interview? so, i think these folks are trying, people like her who write tell-all books after they left the administration. she left the administration january 6th, okay? give me a break. by then, all of america knew who he was. she certainly knew who he was. he had been promoting the big lie for two months before then. and it took till january 6th to resign? i don't see any redeeming development in this, with the trump republicans who want to explode in the white house as accomplices of donald trump by writing tell-all books and trying to please people like me who want to hear the gossip. i'm never, ever going to buy one of these books. never going to spend a penny on it. if somebody gives me one, i'm going to buy a parakeet to line the bottom of the page with the pages of this book. >> that seems like a good place to leave this conversation. ana navarro, i appreciate you're coming on. >> two anas on tv, it's hispanic heritage month. >> it is. all right. you probably noticed by now, it's costing you a lot more to fill up at the pump. and meeting your house this winter could also be more pricey. so what's behind rising energy prices? 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>> reporter: hey, ana, it's just an ongoing cleanup process. and anywhere you go on the beach, you'll be able to see it. of course, this beach is closed and we were able to get in. i wanted to show you some of the crews. these are crews made up of ten or so people. they have the bags, they're picking up small chunks of the oil. sometimes, you won't even notice or see what it really is. they're small pieces of oil and putting them into the bags to later dispose of them safely. similar efforts, though, happening in the water as well. there are boats out there trying to collect the oil. and it's going to take a long time because, of course, this is a huge amount of land. and it takes a lot of time to go up and down the beach. now, the focus here, of course, the cleanup. but also the investigation. and there are a lot of questions, people here wanting to know exactly how this happened. and why it happened. but also when exactly this occurred. because there are now reports, according to documents that we have reviewed, of this spill happening on friday. that's about 12 hours before the energy company announced the leak. they announced it on saturday. but they are saying that they're basically doing everything they can to figure out exactly how it happened. they say it's possible that the anchor of one of the ships passing by was the cause of the leak. but we are expecting them to give us further details. and a better explanation of what happened. but authorities here say that is not enough. they want an independent investigation. and they say that someone needs to be held accountable here. ana. >> can milla bernall in huntington beach, thank you. meantime, the price of energy is soaring which means we're all paying more. how much more? here's what we know. the price of oil today hitting levels we haven't seen since 2014. cnn's matt egan joins us now. matt, just how bad is it? how worse will it get? >> reporter: well, ana, like so many other things right now, supply is simply not keeping up with demand. that's buy we see u.s. oil prices top $79 a barrel for the first time since late 2014. it's an amazing move, when you remember, that oil prices crashed below zero in april-2020. if you can see on that chart, at one point it got to as low as negative $40 a barrel. the main issue today is that opec and its allies are not returning supply very quickly at all. they've been very gradual. they're not heeding calls from the white house to aggressively return production to pre-covid levels. u.s. production companies, they're very slow to add supply. but at the same time, demand has picked up as people fly more and drive, they start commuting more. ana, what we're starting to hear for people on wall street calling for $90 or $100 oil. >> that ultimately gets passed along to the consumer. what does this mean for upcoming holiday travel? are we talking sky high plane tickets, gas prices, et cetera? >> unfortunately, these people are paying more at the pump. normally, these prices go down. $3.20 an average. and national gas prices are skyrocketing. and that's a big deal because natural gas is the most common way to heat homes and electricity. so people are definitely seeing energy sticker shock right now. >> and now we're hearing that the price of our clothing could get a lot more expensive as well. >> you know, oil and gas gets the headlines. quietly, cotton prices are skyrocketing. cotton prices hit a ten-year high. there's a two factors at play. one is extreme weather, drought, heat waves in the united states has wiped out crops of cotton. also, there's been a really strong demand, especially from china. if you put that together, i think it means that americans could expect to pay more on jeans and t-shirts this holiday season. >> not the news you want to hear but thank you for bringing that to us. knowledge is power is the way i look at that, thanks, matt. >> thank you. brian laundrie has now been missing for three weeks. but we're hearing in his sister today who says she is angry. and she is raising doubt about what her parents knew. ♪ ♪ before you go there, or fist bump there, or... oh! i can't wait to go there! or reunite there, start here. walgreens makes it easy to stay protected wherever you go. schedule your free flu shot and covid-19 vaccine today. to make my vision a reality my varilux progressive lenses provide seamlessly transition from near to far. with every detail in sharp focus. that's seeing no limits. varilux lenses by essilor. for people who could use a lift new neutrogena® rapid firming. a triple-lift serum with pure collagen. 92% saw visibly firmer skin in just 4 weeks. neutrogena® for people with skin. when we found out our son had autism, his future became my focus. lavender baths calmed him. so we made a plan to turn bath time into a business. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com - [announcer] if you've tried college but never finished, snhu let's you transfer up to 90 credits toward your bachelor's degree. - [woman] it doesn't matter how old you are, you can do it. you can finish. - [announcer] finish your degree at snhu.edu. the insurance company enwasn't fair.ity y ca i didn't know what my case was worth, so i called the barnes firm. llll theararnes rmrm now the best result possible. ♪ call one eight hundred, eight million ♪ i d d so my y quesonons eouout hicacase.y y son, ♪ call one eight hundred, cacalledhehe bars s fillion ♪ i d d soit was the best call eouout hii could've made. call the barnes firm and find out what your case all could be worth.uld've made. ♪ call one eight hundred, eight million ♪ where is brian laundrie? his sister, cassie, is now speaking out again and saying she has no idea where her brother disappeared to after the death of his fiancee, gabby petito. cassie then said this. >> i've been cooperating with the police since day one. i have been in touch with law enforcement. i don't know if my parents are involved. >> cnn's athena jones joins us now. so, laundrie has been missing for three weeks, athena. we just heard her say, she doesn't know if her parents are involved. what else is this sister saying? >> reporter: hi, ana. it's pretty interesting to hear from brian laundrie's sister, her saying those things about her own parents. keep in mind that cassie laundrie is the only member of the laundrie family who has spoken publicly, but we haven't heard from her in several weeks. we haven't heard from her since gabby's body was found, since her brother, brian, went missing, left his family at home three weeks ago today, and since a federal arrest warrant was issued for brian for use of that debit card and p.i.n. that weren't his. so, it's significant to hear her talking. she also talked about, you know, not knowing where he is and the advice that she would give to him if she did. take a listen. >> no, i do not know where brian is. i really wish he had come to me first that day with the van, because i don't think we'd be here. i worry about him. i hope he's okay, and then i'm angry and i don't know what to think. i would tell my brother to just come forward and get us out of this horrible mess. the last time i physically saw and the last time i physically spoke to my brother was on the 6th. i've tried to get in touch with him. phone went to voicemail. >> reporter: so, you hear her there referring to september 6th. that is when brian laundrie joined his parents on a camping trip to a camp site north of their home in florida. that was september 6th. his sister, cassie laundrie, said she and her family hung out with him for a little while, they made s'mores, nothing seemed out of the ordinary. that is the last time she saw or spoke with him. two more important notes she made is she told abc that she believes that brian might be able to survive in a place like the appalachian trail where there have been supposed sightings of him but she still called him a mediocre survivalist. >> athena jones, thank you. that does it for us today. thank you so much for being here. we'll see now tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern. in the meantime, join me on twitter, @anacabrera. the news continues next with alisyn and victor. you founded your kayak company because you love the ocean- not spreadsheets. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire they said it couldn't be done but you managed to pack a record 1.1 trillion transistors into this chip whoo! yeah! oh, hi i invested in invesco qqq a fund that invests in the innovators of the nasdaq 100 like you you don't have to be circuit design engineer to help push progress forward can i hold the chip? 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