failed to broker an agreement on a frap framework that both sides would sign on to in the democratic party, by the way. let's go to john harwood at the white house. we've heard, i had debbie dingle on last hour who publicly criticized the president's leadership saying she was disappointed to not know where the president stood on this until the end of the week. i wondered does the white house, does the administration worry about biden's waning influence on this? are they concerned he can't bring it across the finish line? >> reporter: i don't think so, jim. i think what happened last week was, no, they did not meet the deadlines that they had set, that nancy pelosi had set for the vote on that infrastructure bill, but they did make progress on negotiations. they're closer to a solution than they were a week ago. it's going to take more work, but joe manchin engaged the gears of negotiation late in the week. i think the big question mark is going to be how democrats bring kyrsten sinema, the iconoclastic senator from arizona, on board and try to get her going with the rest of the democratic team. obviously the size of the bill's going to come down, the president acknowledged that. but when you do something this big and you have very narrow majorities in the congress, it's hard to do, and anybody can stop it. a few moderates, a few liberals, in both the house and the senate can hold up progress. and i think inch by inch they're getting closer to working this out. i think they're confident that if they're able to work it out, say this month which has baseball the new de facto deadline for getting this done, it will -- all heading into the fish line will be forgotten when we get to next year and the midterm elections. >> we'll see. we'll see if these deadlines hold. john harwood at the white house, thank you so much. beaches in orange county, california, closed as a massive oil spill miles from the shoreline threatens local wetlands and wildlife. an estimated 126,000 gallons of oil, that's about 3,000 barrels, leaked from a pipeline breach. divers have been inspecting the 17-mile pipeline in hopes of finding the exact location of that leak. for now officials say the leak does appear to have stopped. here with us to discuss the aftermath of all this, orange county supervisor katrina foley. so good to have you on this morning. we know you have a lot on your hands. first question -- i'm amazed that they don't know where the leak is, right? i'm thinking in the age of technology and concerns about these kinds of things, particularly with the location that this one has so close to crucial wetlands, are you surprised that we can't diagnose at this point exactly where the fault was here? >> well, good morning, i was on a call yesterday with the imt, our incident management team, and this is the question that everyone wants the answer to. and we are continuing to ask that question. i think the more of us who ask that question, eventually someone's going to have to answer it. and what we do know is that it was a leak in a pipeline that is decades old that traveled to a platform. and so they've cut off the valve, they've shut off the valve, rather, and then they capped the pipeline, and they have divers going down like you said and trying to repair it. but yes, we need answers, and the public deserves answers. this has devastated our california coastline in orange county, and it's having a tremendous impact on our ecological preserves, as well as our economics. so it's -- it's time to answer the question. >> do you have any sort of a timeline for those answers? >> every single day this process has evolved. we have i think there's plenty of investigation going on by the u.s. coast guard, by all of our state agencies, and so the timeline, it's not for me to decide. i can just keep asking the question just like everyone else. >> one issue, of course, is the location of this. we had chad myers on last hour explaining how you have this crucial wetlands there that's been developed over many decades, right, as a kind of landing spot and thriving spot for all forms of wildlife. but we now know the oil is in there. do you know what degree of threat that this poses to that area? >> yes. well, it's a significant impact. so it's the tallbert marsh wetlands. we have three wetlands in huntington beach. and the entire area is saturated with oil. our wetlands and wildlife centers are taking care of animals and cleaning the poison off the animals now. and the area, the orange county public works has put up berms. we've been working around the clock to try to secure the area to prevent any more seepage into that area. i know that the coast guard when we did our flyover yesterday, we were speaking to captain orr, and she promised we would get mother na more booms so it doesn't invade. that's happening. then as we were traveling down the coast yesterday afternoon around 4:00 or 5:00 p.m., we were seeing the oil was moving toward crystal cove which is a -- a really a state-protected site, as well. and then down to laguna beach. this morning in communications with the coast guard, they're going to be up in the air this morning to see the extent of whether it's moving toward shore or not in laguna beach. >> we looked at the -- as you talk about where this is moving and where you're finding the impact, and even looking at the coastline as we've slhown befor, do you have all the resources you need at this point for that cleanup? >> well, the responsible party for the financial resources is amplify energy. and so we are pouring all resources available from the county, from the local cities, huntington beach, newport beach, laguna beach, as well as our orange county sheriff's department harbor patrol, we are all in. it's all hands on deck. the state has been very generous. the federal government is helping us. so we are all collaborating and pouring whatever resources we have to -- this is part of our culture here. this is the california coast is precious to us here in southern california. and it is part of who we are. we will pour all the resources we can. it's unfortunate it's on the heels of the pandemic when we're just now recovering, we're coming back. and now we've got this to deal with. >> yeah. >> is this the kind of thing that takes years to clean up, right? i think people pay attention for a bit. as chad myers was noting, the oil from the deepwater horizon spill is still on the bottom of the gulf of mexico. is this the kind of thing that's going to impact your community sadly for years to come? >> well, that's my concern. that's many of our concerns. now, the good news here is that 20 years ago when we were dealing with these kinds of spills in this area, we didn't have the technology we have now. we didn't have the resources. we didn't have the coordinated effort and the timely response. so we're hoping that that will maybe help to mitigate the long-term impacts, but we won't know the damage for another couple of weeks. they're still assessing everything. i remember as a little girl in santa barbara getting tar on my heels and my dad getting it off with baby oil. so these are the kinds of memories that we wanted to do away with here in california. we are trying to protect our coast from this kind of a spill. so it's very sad. >> yeah. it certainly is. we appreciate you taking the time to join us this morning. thank you. >> thank you. thanks for spreading our word. another story we're following this morning -- claims from a former facebook executive who is accusing the company of very clearly placing profit over public safety. >> there were conflicts of interest between what was good for the public and what was good for facebook, and facebook over and over again chose to optimize for its own interests like making more money. the version of facebook that exists today is tearing our societies apart and causing ethnic violence around the world. >> wow. quite a claim from inside the company. the whistleblower, frances haugen, is expected to testify under oath tomorrow. facebook has refuted several of her claims. executives telling brian stelter there's no incentive for facebook to tolerate hate on its platforms. >> the people who pay our lunch are advertisers. advertiser don't want their content next to hateful extreme or unpleasant content. we have absolutely no commercial incentive, no moral incentive, no company-wide incentive to do anything other than try and give the maximum number of people as much of a positive experience as possible. >> some of the most damning revolutions from the whistleblower involve how using facebook's platforms may harm children and teenagers. we have more now. turning over tens of thousands of documents to the securities and exchange commission, she says in her filings the documents prove that facebook knew using its platforms could be harmful to children. what specifically was she pointing to? >> yeah, that's right. i mean, i think that is why this facebook scandal hits different, right. i mean, they have had numerous scandals through the years, cambridge analytica, we're used to hearing about how neo-nazis are using the platform, how there's hateful content, how insurrectionists use the platform, how trump used the platform to lie about the election. but this is very specific about i think a very emotive issue that too many of cus can report to as young people in our lives going down rabbit holes, mental health issues, through social media. listen to what the whistleblower had to say -- >> one study says 13.5% of teen girls say instagram makes thoughts of suicide worse. 17% of teen girls say instagram makes eating disorders worse. >> and what's super tragic is facebook's own research says as these young women begin to consume this eating disorder content, they get more and more depressed, it makes them use the app more. and so they end up in this feedback cycle where they hate their bodies more and more. facebook's own research says it is not just that instagram is dangerous for teenagers, that it harms teenagers, it's that it is distinctly worse than other forms of social media. >> facebook pushing back pretty much on everything the whistleblower is saying, the company putting out a lengthy statement trying to push back on all of this. look, this is a big, big challenge for the company. they're in big trouble here. that whistleblower was working at facebook until may of this year, and the evidence she is citing is facebook's own research, internal research. so that is now what facebook is trying to essentially discredit and debunk their own research. they are saying that it's all being taken out of context. >> i mean, big picture, though, it's part of a pattern. we've seen evidence through the years. the idea of going for eyeballs, therefore money, over quality of content. i do want to ask you because there were specific claims from the whistleblower about changes that facebook made after the 2020 election but prior to january 6th and the impact of that. >> yeah. this is something i've been asking facebook about and not totally clear on it yet. but facebook for all its woes did have? gu -- did have guardrails in place in terms of content that could be shared. some guardrails did come down after the election and between the election and the insurrection. i couldthink we're going to hav find out more about exactly what happened and changed in between that critical period between the insurrection and between the election and the insurrection. so i think that is something that senators might focus on particularly tomorrow. of course, facebook will say, as nick klegg told us yesterday, downplaying the role that social media, misinformation had in fueling what we saw here at the capitol in january. >> we do know a lot of information was shared on social media. that's in the record. thanks very much. still to come this hour, dr. anthony fauci says that we may be rounding the corner on the current coronavirus surge. that's good news. but he does say that more vaccinations are needed to prevent another surge around the holidays as more people are traveling. next we speak with the connecticut governor overseeing more mandates going into place today. plus, right now the supreme court back in session. how this session could have historic impacts on a whole host of issues -- abortion, the second amendment, affirmative action, and beyond. also new this morning, jeff bezos announcing his blue origin space company is sending william shatner to space. you know you want to stick around for those details. we have them just ahead. ♪ ♪ your new pharmacy is here. and here. and here, too. it's here to help you save time and money and trips to the pharmacy. it's here to get you the medication you need when you need it. who knew it could be this easy? 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>> i think the overwhelming number of our state employees are going to be what you call compliant. almost all of them are vaccinated. right now about 10% or so say they prefer testing a little bit longer. some of the employees still getting themselves registered. so i really appreciate what labor's doing. look, they're keeping themselves safe. keeping the people they work with safe and the client they take care of safe. >> when you say 10% you're expecting will not be compliance, are there specific areas? i know you had last week put the national guard on notice, you may call them in to cover staffing shortages. over the weekend you said you don't think that would be necessary. if we're looking at 10%, that's a fair amount of people. >> well, it's 10%, you know, yesterday. so i think by the end of today it will be a lot fewer. the overwhelming majority vaccinated, getting back to work or testing. you're right, we have some standby in case there are nurses or logistics or drivers, things we need, we're ready. i don't think it's going to be necessary, though. >> all right. we'll check in with you tomorrow morning, see where that stands. when it comes to vaccine mandates, as we've seen across the country and across various industries, they seem to be working. seems like you're saying you're seeing the same in connecticut. interestingly on friday, governor newsom announced that for students in california the vaccine will be required. for those who are in the age group where it has been fully approved by the fda. do you envision the state of connecticut where i know pre-k through 12 staff need to be vaccinated, do you anticipate adding the covid-19 vaccine to the list of required vaccinations for students as different age groups likely will see full fda approval? >> i don't anticipate that. at least not right now. when it's approved, it will be emergency use authorization. you know, i've found that given voluntary work, making it easier for people to get vaccinated, the overwhelming number of people have done it voluntarily. so let's try the same methodology with those kids. >> i'm not talking about the eua. specifically about approval which governor newsom mentioned. we're talking about full fda approval. if and when it does have full fda approval for children, would it be added to the list of vaccinations that are corrurren required in public schools? >> we'll see. first i'm waiting for the emergency use authorization. it will tell parents now is a good time to get your younger kids vaccinated. let's start with that. we'll see when we get the full approval what we have to do next year i think. >> as you know, a lot happening and yet not happening at the same time in washington these days. the infrastructure bill that's essentially stuck right now, as we look at i believe connecticut was set to receive some $5 billion over the next five years. what does it mean for your state? what's at stake here if this bill doesn't pass? >> yeah. come on, president trump knew how important infrastructure was, couldn't get it over the finish line. let's let the congress get it over the finish line. that first bill means the world to a state like connecticut which has pretty old infrastructure. i could take ten minutes off your commute from new haven right down to new york. that saves an amount of time either in the rail or also in cars. speed things up. what that means for commerce, what that means for good-paying jobs for the foreseeable future. i think it's time for congress to make up their mind on this. let's go. >> so your message is make up your mind, let's go. have you reached out to your state representatives even to the president just to remind them of what's at stake? >> i have. and i can tell you the connecticut delegation are 100% all in, ready to vote for that $1.1 trillion infrastructure bill, transformative for our state and i think our country. and hopefully soon to follow the broader bill. >> you're up for re-election in 2022. lot of things could happen between now and then. there's a lot of focus on 2022. will you run? >> i haven't made that call yet. you want to know why? everybody in our capital, hartford, is running all the time. it's a nonstop campaign factory. and we've still got a lot of work to do. i'm trying to focus on covid, focus on infrastructure, focus on getting jobs back. we have tens of thousands of people moving into the state. keep that momentum going. that's my focus for now. >> so you want to stay focused on the job at hand. when will you make that decision, though? >> later. >> how much later? i got to try one more time. >> oh, i don't want to play games with it. i think i'll make up my mind by the end of this year. >> all right. governor ned lamont. appreciate you joining us. thank you. >> thanks. the fda has some big new meetings coming up. one thing on the agenda is pfizer's request to authorize the vaccine for children under the age of 12. 5 to 11-years-old. also addressing the question of booster shots for the moderna and johnson & johnson vaccines. >> yeah. such an important -- important moments as we look at that. senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joining us with more. what are we hearing about these specifics and sort of when we could have answers? >> right. so these fda advisers, they are going to be busy in the month of october looking at a booster from moderna, a booster for johnson & johnson, and the pfizer vaccine for ages 5 to 11. so let's talk about johnson & johnson because we have learned that they will -- they are soon to be expected -- we are expecting that they will soon apply for emergency use authorization. let's look at some data that they put out recently. so they say when you look at some of their older data at their single shot that it was 66% effective against moderate to severe covid-19. but when you look at two shots, 75% effective against moderate to severe covid-19. so still two shots not quite as effective as moderna or pfizer, but still very effective. a couple notes there -- one, this booster for the numbers i just showed you, that was given eight weeks after the first shot. we tondon't know, is it differe in six months? johnson & johnson's numbers look different in the united states than globally. i just gave you global numbers. they look better in the u.s. i'm sure the fda advisers will want to know why they look better in the u.s. now back to the children. so pfizer, the fda advisers will be talking about pfizer's application to have emergency use authorization for children ages 5 to 11 on october 26th. it is possible that there could be an authorized vaccine for children by halloween. not absolutely for sure, but it is possible. >> have enormous effects -- imagine what that means for trick-or-treating. there had been lots of hope leading up to full fda approval as opposed to emergency use authorization. that would address some of the vaccine hesitancy in this country, that finally would put a lot of people over the edge. there's new data. did it? >> that's right. because the old data, data over the summer seemed to say, man, for a lot of people it's going to make a difference when the fda says we're giving you full approval. that's what people said when they answered polls. but it turned out not quite to be true. we asked, cnn asked the department of health and human services to crunch numbers and found the numbers did get better for pfizer after full approval on august 23rd, but not all that much better. and it was short lived. let's take a look at what that improvement looked like. so if you looked from -- from august 23rd through september 6th, so 12 days following fda full approval, pfizer vaccinations did go up by 16%. and moderna only went up by 5%. moderna actually had been doing even better than pfizer and then pfizer started to do better. likely a part of that is because they got full approval. but much more is going to happen. we know from polls that people think other things are more important than full approval. for example, they are fearful about the delta variant. they're fearful about hospitalizations. they want to be able to go to concerts. they want to be able to travel and other things that require vaccination. that seems to be more powerful than any fda stamp of approval. >> always interesting. appreciate it, thank you. >> thanks. still ahead, the supreme court back in session for the first time since the pandemic. we'll take a look at what is ahead for this session including several potentially landmark rulings to come. that's next. listerine® cleans virtually 100%. helping to prevent gum disease and bad breath. never settle for 25%. always go for 100. bring out the bold™ new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today. 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>> i think that's right, jim. i think that this feels like a big, big swing from a supreme court that's been trying to be careful about optics and all of a sudden this term they're, as you said, there's nothing that's not on the menu. we've seen a very busy summer from a court that's usually quiet in the summer. it does feel like the court is kind of all in, and we're going to see the landscape change in huge ways. >> as we're speaking, these are pictures, live pictures from the supreme court. a sign of the attention to this session, protesters there, some of them now being arrested as they greet the start of the new session. okay, let's go through some of these issues. roe v. wade, as we currently know it and it's applied, will it survive this term? >> well, there's two things happening. one is that the court is going to hear in december the dobbs case, that's the 15-week mississippi ban. we should be really clear that the state of mississippi has all-out asked the court to overturn roe, not just to preserve its narrow ban. so that's on the table. and just at the beginning of september, we saw the court refuse to enjoin that texas sba, that six-week ban, so already in texas you can't get an abortion. functionally roe v. wade has already overturned. >> yeah. i mean, that's the thing. we know that other states are already copying the language in that legislation. texas, second most populous state in the union. as a practical matter, are we heading toward a point where a number of states, women just don't have the right to choose in effect? >> well, in some sense, that's already the case. if you think about the number of states that only have one clinic. i think you're quite right. as a practical matter whether the court formally overturns roe or continues to make it impossible in some states, we are looking at a very, very, very different world for abortion rights. >> okay. gun rights. this term the court will hear its first big gun case really in more than a decade. this relates to a new york law about what is required for gun owners to carry a weapon legally concealed outside of their home. given the right turn of the court -- by the way, none of this is an accident. these nominees are litmus tested on these issues when they're nominated. do we expect this court to further expand the second amendment? >> on that i think there's no question, jim. otherwise they would not have agreed to hear this case. and you're quite right, the court after 2008 when it said at least theoretically there's a second amendment individual right to own guns in the home to protect yourself, never put meat on the bones of exactly the contours of that, right. i think this is where they put meat on the bones, and i think you're very right to see that the court looks as though now there are enough justices to vastly expand what the individual right to bear arms will mean. >> just quickly, we know that confidence in this court has declined. public approval. we've seen some justices very publicly push back against that and blame everyone including the media for it. but the fact is -- listen, just look at how the justices were chosen in the most recent years. does it matter, right? 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as you talk to members, do they have a path order? >> reporter: not at the moment. the negotiations need to continue. the democratic leadership has set a new deadline, that being october 31st. the end of the month after they were not able to get a deal on friday to move that infrastructure package. remember these are two separate -- $1.2 trillion infrastructure package, and the larger expansion of the social ♪. t -- social safety net. there's disagreements between progressives and moderates about the size and scope. joe manchin on the moderate aid is wants about $1.5 trillion, and the progressive side, they are pushing for somewhere close to $3 trillion. then never mind the decisions over this policies within them. nevertheless, democratic leaders are pushing to get a deal between those factions within their -- in their caucus in the house and senate. chuck schumer, the senate majority leader, sending out a letter today saying he wants a deal to be struck on this issue in a, quote, matter of days. heap goes on to tell colleagues that from the very beginning we knew the execution of the two-track legislative strategy for the bill -- for the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the build-back-better act would be difficult. and at times messy. we can get this done together if we put aside our differences and find the common ground within our party. so he is trying to impress upon members they need to come together. expect this to happen behind closed doors. the way congress operates, they don't operate until they get very close to an agreement. so potentially this could drag on for the course of this month. but it will take time to go through the legislative process which is why that pressure is going to intensify behind closed doors. can they get an agreement, still uncertain at this point. guys? 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