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trip to chicago tomorrow in order to spearhead negotiations to save his multi-trillion dollar domestic agenda which is at a make or break point right now with anxiety growing among democrats. biden holding meetings with joe manchin, kyrsten sinema to work out a deal with them. also today the top general testifying that they recommended maintaining 2,500 u.s. troops in afghanistan rather than a complete withdrawal, apparently contradicting statements made by president biden about the advice he received from pentagon leaders. a new development in the search for brian laundrie. an attorney confirming to cnn laundrie and his family went camping a week after he returned to florida without his fiance gabby petito. let's bring in cnn's senior political analyst john avlon and white house correspondent john harwood. i have to be careful here because they are both named john. good evening, gentlemen. so, mr. harwood, this is about making a deal. who does president biden have more leverage to pressure here, the progressives or the moderates to get in line to pass the bill? these bills. >> well, look, the reality of the situation, don, is that every member of the democratic senate has a veto, and any group of at least four house members in the house, democrats in the house, have a veto as well. so with majorities this bare, everybody's got leverage and president biden has to bring all of them along. now, one of the challenges here is you can't negotiate with somebody who doesn't tell you what they want. so far, the progressives in the house have outlined what they want. even to some degree the moderates in the house have outlined what they want, but senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema have not. the efforts are to get some definition from sinema and manchin as to what they want to see if they can make a deal. that's what's behind the meetings at the white house today between sinema, manchin, and president biden and staff. and what we don't have visibility into is what they talked about, what they agreed to because they haven't articulated publicly any top line number or particular policy demands. we know some things in general. so presumably the president wouldn't have canceled his trip if he didn't think he had some prospects for moving this ball down the field. ab but we will have to wait and see. >> so if we don't know what they want, if they are not saying what they want, meaning the sinemas and manchins of the world, are they obstructionists? are they holding up the bill? as has been pointed out by many people, including john harwood and the progressive wing of the democratic party on this very show this week, they have said what they want. it's the manchins and sins that aren't. >> they are close to playing that role. manchin wants to be someone who is constructive. he thinks he can bring the democratic party back to the center. leaving the white house saying he made no commitments without any clear sense what their bottom line is leaves everything in limbo. that's why nancy pelosi had to delink the bills which creates a crisis in the progressive caucus. this is crunch time. we are 48 hours away from a government shutdown. we have got a debt ceiling default looming in the distance and then we have got the biden agenda, the democrats' agenda on the line. it is time for senator sinema and manchin to put a number forward that can be the basis for negotiation. there is no more time to play footsie or be cute about this. you want to lower that 3.5? say what the number is and then you can begin to reason from there. >> speaking of the debt ceiling, republicans refusing to lift it, as we know. they are going to let the country default on its bills? risk economic disaster to prove a political point. is that what's happening? john harwood. >> you know what the republicans are -- yes, what the republicans are saying is that democrats have a path to raise the debt ceiling. they can do it on their own with no threat of a filibuster through the budget reconciliation process. the problem is that complicates this very negotiation that president biden is undertaking. it's an attempt by saying that that's how democrats have to do it, mitch mcconnell is trying to exact a political pound of flesh. now, it was interesting today that after the republicans have blocked a debt limit increase, mitch mcconnell made a small offer to democrats today saying he would expedite the reconciliation process by which they could raise the debt ceiling because democrats had been dplang it would take too long. that's an indication he wasn't entirely comfortable i got nothing to say to you, do it on your own stance. the question is whether he would give any further and whether it's usefulf for democrats to keep pressing on fall back and do it through budget reconciliation. they don't want to establish the principle that this hostage can keep getting taken over and over again. not clear if they will have a choice in the matter. >> i want to talk about this joint chief chairman, the final days of the trump administration in the book "peril" it was reported that milley agreed with house speaker nancy pelosi that trump was crazy. this is what milley said today. >> i explained to her that the president is the sole nuclear launch authority and he doesn't launch them alone. and that i am not qualified to determine the mental health of the president of the united states. >> i want to know what you think, john, because he isn't saying -- he is not contradicting what is reported in the book, and milley also confirmed he talked to the authors of three different books. >> that's right. he did not deny what's been in the press reports. he said he didn't read the books, which is different thing. >> but he said i saw the news reports and i saw the quotes. he knows what the quotes are and he knows the context of the news reports. he is saying i haven't read the books, which is smart. >> he did not deny what has been in the press reports, basically affirming it. >> oh, boy. here we are. it never ends. it is never ending. thank you, gents. see you soon. now the former defense secretary william conl. thank you for joining us. good evening to you. so there is blunt sobering testimony from our top military leaders that appears to conflict with president biden's assertion to abc last month where he disputed military advisors told him he should keep troops in afghanistan. let's listen to part of it. >> i won't share my personal recommendation to the president. i will give you my honest opinion and my honest opinion and shaped my recommendation. i recommended we maintain 25,000 troops in afghanistan. >> you agree with the recommendation of 2,500? >> i do agree with that. >> this is what president biden said last month. >> your top military advisors want you to keep 2,500 troops. >> no, they didn't. it was split. that wasn't true. that wasn't true. >> they didn't tell you they wanted troops to stay? >> no. not at -- not in terms of whether we were going to get out in a timeframe all troops. they didn't argue against that. >> so no one -- your military advisors didn't tell you, no, we should keep 2,500 troops, we can do that, we can continue to do that? >> no, no one said that to me that i can recall. >> all right. did the generals contradict the president? >> well, there is a contradiction. i think it's coming from the president to say that he was either misunderstood or m misunderstood the question and he needs to correct the record as far as he is concerned. the issue, however, is that joe biden understood that keeping 2,500 would mean they were breaking the deal essentially. in order to break the deal, here i think the chiefs were -- chief of staff of various military services, especially the chairman, would say you can't do it with 2,500 forever. how would we manage this in terms of having to fight the taliban and potentially the other elements that are now funneling into afghanistan. so saying one thing about we need to keep 2,500, that sounds right if you have a stable country. if you have the taliban working with you. if you don't have the taliban with you, then 2,500 is not going to be able to save afghanistan. i think there was a contradiction there. i commend those who testified today. chairman milley, secretary austin and general mckenzie. i thought they were pretty straightforward, candid, very confident, and they were under oath. they had no reason to fudge and, frankly, i thought they made a great presentation. >> look, they take an oath to the constitution and to the country. they don't -- party doesn't matter to those guys. it shouldn't matter to them, it appears, to be the case when youlis top their testimony. general milley also defended his call with counterpart in china at the end of trump's term saying that secretary of state mike pompeo and the white house chief of staff mark meadows were aware of the call. should milley get an apology from trump and allies saying he should be tried for treason because of his actions? >> you know, it's really pretty rich that republican members who were calling for him to be tried for treason or certainly to force him to resign, where were they for the past jeer? donald trump made a deal that the military said was a bad deal because they wouldn't be able to sustain the afghan military. the afghan military lost morale when tsaw that the united state was committed to leaving. where were the republicans then? i didn't hear any of them call for the change in the policy. in fact, i don't think any of them have any standing to call for the chairman's resignation. those individuals who failed to stop, to step up and criticize the president for leading an insurrection against the country, that's what their obligation was. where was their loyalty at this point to get to the truth? so i think it's a situation where i think that the chairman said exactly what needed to be said. as far as making a call, i think it was important that he made a call. some of the lessons learned here is that every report isn't -- first report is usually wrong. and we had wrong information that came out, partial information as your colleague chris cuomo pointed out. that was partial information and it was misleading and they all rushed to judgment. >> i hate to rush you. i want to get this before we run out much time. i understand where you are going. i think this sound bite is very important and i want you to respond to it. trump and his allies are still pushing conspiracy theories and election lies. what paul gosar said about arizona earlier this month. watch this. >> we can do that. follow through on this audit. folks, if it's what i have been told and i had people come to me early hours of the day after from the security fraud department to the cia fraud department that between 450 and 700,000 ballots were altered in the state of arizona. >> he made similar claims in that talk there, whatever he is doing, about georgia. first, there is no cia fraud department, secretary. i mean, it's nutty. and let's be very clear. the arizona audit has since come out with more votes for biden and fewer for trump. what are these lies doing to thundershower democracy, especially since republicans aren't shutting them down? >> what they are doing is they are adding to the sledgehammers or taking the sledgehammers to our constitutional system. they have an obligation to speak out, say stop it, that joe biden won this fair and square and you are undermining the confidence in our election system. you are doing putin's bidding. if you think we have enmemies t con contend with, it's right here. we have to take care of people like that spreading lies and have the other members of congress, other reapublican members speak out and say that is a lie and we can't have any credibility as a part. we descend into being a cult and accept that cultism for our philosophy. >> i have been wanting you to respond to that question all night. i couldn't wait to get to that. i found it shocking that he would -- that people like him are out there spreading that misinformation. thank you very much, sir. see you next time. pfizer submitting vaccine data on kids 5 to 11 to the fda today, but is there a potential holdup in getting children vaccinated by halloween? 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>> good evening, don. i think the most likely answer is that they want to get a little bit of feedback from the fda. so, they have submitted data to the fda, and the data set is quite large. this is a new vaccine for children, and it's a vaccine at a different dose dthan used for adolescents and adult. there is a lot of safety and efficacy data has to be processed. my guess is they want to make sure they get it right. we know that prior application for the eua for adolescents bass processed after about a month by the fda. so it's going to be a few weeks after the company submits the eua before the shots are available for kids. so my guess is that we are going to be into november before we see this for children. >> when this vaccine is authorized it would make 28 million children eligible, but there is an axios inowes poll that says 42% say they won't vaccinate their children. 28 million children. how critical to get their parents onboard? >> well, there is no other way for the kids to get vaccinated. presumably, some school boards will start to mandate vaccines for kids, and that might help. but mind you, if you look at the experience for what's happened when the vaccine was approved for adolescents, barely half of the kids eligible in the 12 to 15 year age group have been vaccinated. so we have a long way to go to educate parents about why this vaccine is important for their children. and it's going to be split again among party lines, split among parents who have been vaccinated and unvaccinated, with the unvaccinated parents less likely to vaccinate their children, much less likely. we have to dig deep and try to get people to start vaccinating their kids. >> the biden administration says more than 400,000 people got a booster shot over the weekend. they say that people aren't experiencing major side effects from the shot. can you tell us what you know so far about what people should expect? >> people should expect to have, you know, a moderate reaction to these shots. i have had a booster. i had a sore arm for about a day. i know other people that have had sort of a modified version of whatever they had to the first two shots. so most people will have some very, very manageable reaction, you know, ranging from, again, a sore arm to maybe a low-grade fever, low-grade flu-like symptoms. very, very manageable. this vaccine overall is super well tolerated and it appears that the booster is also very, very well tolerated. >> thank you, doctor. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. again, gabby petito's family saying her fiance should turn himself in. when it comes to his family, well, listen to this. >> the laundries did not help us find gabby. they are not going to help us find brian. they may have lost an eye, or their hearing, or their youthful good looks. but there's a lot of things these remarkable dogs haven't lost... like their ability to lick, wag, and love with the best of them. join subaru in helping underdogs find a loving home and celebrate all dogs during our third annual national make a dog's day. ♪ look good feel good play good. gillette proglide, five blades and a pivoting flexball to get virtually every hair on the first stroke. look good, game good. gillette. tonight, i'll be eating a buffalo chicken panini with extra hot sauce. tonight, i'll be eating salmon sushi with a japanese jiggly cheesecake. 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>> yeah, it's all pretty suspicious. it may be that they knew at some point this would blow up and they wanted to get out of the glare of the lights, neighbors watching what they were doing, possibly staging him so he can go on the run. i mean, that's a theory. this seems like an odd time to go camping. he is back. gabby's missing. they know -- well, something happened to her. so it's very suspicious. i think there is three investigations going on right now, don. there is a tradition fugitive hunt to look for him. there is an investigation -- a homicide investigation. and there is a third investigation on who may be aiding and abetting him because it seems to me at this point that he has to have some help and he may have had some help from his parents, but there may be others. >> yeah, look, again, this is a -- still in the investigative stages, but i have very similar questions two weeks ago about the family and aiding and abetting with the attorney general, what's his name, from palm beach county. we discussed that. aaron, yeah, dave ehrenberg. so, listen, there has been a lot of speculation about the role brian's parents may or may not have played in helping brian evade police. his parents maintain they don't know where he is and they said they didn't help brian leave their home or they didn't help him avoid arrest. but is their refusal to fully cooperate with police say anything to you? >> well, yes, it does. i mean, the whole thing from lawyering up right away, right the minute law enforcement got in contact with them, their, you know, having the van there for ten days. they know about this couple. they know their history. they know more about them than any of us. and something happened. they know it. he disappears and it's four days before they report it to the police. they are coming and going during that ten-day time period. there is too much there, don. i think it's almost overwhelming at this point that they provided some time of assist or head start for him. >> i know that, chris, you have doubts about brian laundrie, that he has a survival skills to stay in the wildness, you know, on his own. but given this new information, have you changed your mind at all about that? do you think that, you know, this is just a head start and he's in another place somewhere, not in that wilderness? >> yeah, he's got a couple of options here. he can go it alone and -- because his picture is out there. so he can't stay in hotels. he can't stay in public places. he can't be seen in public. he has to go somewhere, appalachian trail, you name it, somewhere out in the wildness, somewhere away from civilization for fear of being spotted. option number two, he has a friend with an apartment or a place to hole up and he can get off the grid for a while and just hide and hope that things blow over and find his way to mexico or out of the country. i think his options become more and more limited as law enforcement closes in. law enforcement is looking at his social network. they are trying to figure out who he may or may not be in contact with. then they camp out on them. they look at their phone traffic. they look at their comings and goings. look to see if anyone is in contact with him. that comes from going to school on him and knowing his habits and his social network. >> thank you, chris. i appreciate it. >> thanks. the vaccine has been available since january. where are tens of millions of americans still not vaccinated? joe biden won the election, period. why do so many millions of americans still not believe it? maybe for the same reason. that's next. it's another day. and anything could happen. it could be the day you welcome 1,200 guests and all their devices. or it could be the day there's a cyberthreat. get ready for it all with an advanced network and managed services from comcast business. and get cybersecurity solutions that let you see everything on your network. plus an expert team looking ahead 24/7 to help prevent threats. every day in business is a big day. we'll keep you ready for what's next. comcast business powering possibilities. ♪ i see trees of green ♪ ♪ red roses too ♪ ♪ i see them bloom for me and you ♪ (music) ♪ so i think to myself ♪ ♪ oh what a wonderful world ♪ positive data coming out that shows many people are following vaccine mandates. new york's governor saying 92% of hospital staff are supplying. she says vaccination rates have increased considerably over the last four weeks as new york crept closer to monday's deadline. united airlines saying 96% of their work force has met the vaccine mandate deadline. a minority still pushing against any form of mandates. let's break that down with juliette cayenne. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> we are seeing some positive results from vaccine mandates but there is an incredibly vocal minority changing them. listen to this. >> your children and your children's children will be suffocated! they will be asked how many vaccines have you had? have you been a good little nazi? >> covid is not about health because more than 99% of us have actually failed to die from this thing. it's being used by global elites and our own government to destroy the united states of america. >> you treat the parent of these children as domestic terrorists. using our men in blue against us. your power-hungry dictatorship has gotten out of control. this is no longer about our safety. it is about control. >> yeah. >> well, listen, you have been talking about how voices like this are able to win out against facts, and you see parallels to what we see with election denialism and the big lie. explain that to us. >> so i think that these two stories we are following this week are actually more related than at first blush. they are essentially about a vocal minority using the threat of violence. listen the language of the people talking about anti-vaccination. they are that close to violence. as well as members or supporters of trump and members of the gop who also use violence and the threat of violence. to give the perception that they are the majority or at the very least that this country is divided. let me put some good news about what's going on. over 75% of eligible americans are now vaccinated. the mandates are working. you are seeing compliance in the 90, 95, 99% for companies and public sector that are using mandates. the unvaccinated tended to be fickle, that they just needed sort of a deadline or something that was going to be deprived of them, an nfl game or something, and you can move them without being angry. for those who support both vaccination as well as a country ruled bylaws and voting, i think one of the things that we need to do is both don't blink. in other words, don't be afraid of this kind of behavior. think that the country is divided. also, move forward. i mean, this is -- this -- this will begin to get drowned out as more people are vaccinated as the violence is called out. that's why i have always -- you know, i have always been comfortable calling trump the leader of a terrorist organization. i think if we don't use that language, we are kind of being too nice to him and too nice to the movement. >> yeah. i want you to take a listen to this clip from 1984. drivers talked about seatbelt mandates. >> i'll have to detour the town to get to kalamazoo. they pass the seatbelt -- i don't use a seatbelt. >> i wouldn't wear my seatbelt, if i get caught, i get caught. >> florida highway patrol chris miller hears it all when it comes to seatbelts. >> i hear it's uncomfortable. it wrinkles my clothes. it's not cool. >> you don't want it wear it? that's your choice. >> so, you know, the government instituted a measure -- i mean, as you can -- if i had told you they were talking about masks, right, right then, you would not know the difference. it's a measure protect the public, backed by science. some people say freedoms were taken away. do you see the similarities here? >> yes. every time the government sort of raises the floor, this is ridiculous when it comes to vaccines because we are in the middle of a pandemic, but raises the safety floor, whether putting on seatbelts or when they were banning smoking on airplanes. there were smokers and the tobacco industry suggesting that the airline industry would falter and people wouldn't fly anymore. people are always putting these fake signs, fake news because they don't like the policy or they personally don't want to be moved. so a couple months ago -- and i have gotten much more forceful about mandates once we hit a wall, once the administration hit a wall this firms of the vaccines. i am done with feelings. you either get the vaccine and get to do all the things the vaccinated get to do or you don't and you don't get to do all the things the vaccinated do and that's how our society is being structured. i can feel bad for people dying or manipulated by faulty news or the republican party, but i'm -- but the majority now is the vaccinated. and we begin with that and they are the righteous, right? they are right in this regard. we begin with those facts. try to get more people -- we welcome everyone into our camp. >> yeah. i don't disagree with you. so much of this battle is against misinformation. we are seeing it on everything from mandates, 2020 election. we are at a point where many people don't believe the facts in front of them. is there any way to fight that? how do you fight that? >> yeah, i mean it's a little bit different. so the reason why mandates have become sort of more -- people are more comfortable with mandates is because the unvaccinated listening to this false news basically just needed a push, a nudge, something to be taken away from them and then they sort of weighed that faulty information against the desire to keep their job or in the case of state police or desire to keep their pension. when it comes to the elections, i mean, there is a couple of solutions, you know, as i -- the prosecutions against the january 6th insurrectionists are really key in that narrative because they are disrupting the white supremacy group. of course, elections mattered, but also, you know, this is where, you know, the democratic party as well as the media cannot be shy about calling this what it is, which is a form of terrorism. this is violence is seeping through our political discourse in a way that is, you know, is somewhat unprecedented in -- certainly in this century. and we -- and there is sort of this cautiousness about calling it that and i just think we just have to call it out. no more emotions. no more feelings. just call a spade a spade. people are threatening violence, arrest them, prosecute them, and get them vaccinated. so all -- >> is it irreparable? >> it is. part is going to be the social media platforms and whether we can solve them. one of the things that people should remember is despite all the false news, right, the pul polling is still consistently this that the republican party is losing support, the democrats are actually, you know, being able to vote -- not being able to vote, but registering in numbers like never before. put the fear of god into democrats. and then once again just remember this number. over 75% of eligible americans are vaccinated. so whatever crap, whatever stuff is out there that's leading them to -- that we hear in terms of all of the false news, majority of americans are not buying it. so keep leading with facts and call a spade a spade. that's what we can do. all the other stuff going on -- i wake up every morning saying i am not ready to make nice. i think you just sort of call their bluff every time that you can. >> that's why i love you. thank you. i appreciate it. >> i need a liechlt i know that, too. good night, don. >> thank you. they are complaining students are being taught anti-white lessons and state law might be on their side. inside the fight over what kids are being taught about race. that's next. um, she's eating the rocket. ♪ lunchables! built to be eaten. instantly clear everyday congestion with vicks sinex saline. for fast drug free relief vicks sinex. instantly clear everyday congestion. and try vicks sinex children's saline. safe and gentle relief for children's noses. ♪ when you have nausea, ♪ ♪ heartburn, ingestion, upset stomach... ♪ ♪ diarrheaaaa. ♪ pepto bismol coats your stomach with fast and soothing relief. and try new drug free pepto herbal blends. made from 100% natural ginger and peppermint. the battle over how america's history with race and racism is taught in schools is heating up across the country. get this, a new state law in tennessee may be on their side. cnn's evan santoro has this story. >> reporter: just outside of nashville, basic american history is up for debate. >> his parents taught him about journal washington, and he identifies george washington as a white man. and then asked if he would be killed back then because he has brown skin. i mean, he's judging george washington, not by any of what he -- by being the father of our country. >> he may have been killed back then because of the color of his skin. >> i'm not sure that's what you teach, that you would have been killed for the color of your skin. that's -- that's -- that's a narrative. >> reporter: she's trying to change the narrative on race in the williamson county, tennessee public school district. she pulled her child out of public school and now leads a chapter of moms for liberty in this suburb. nationally, the group is known for loudly protesting school masking. >> it has traumatized the kids. >> reporter: but her chapter filed a different kind of complaint, with the tennessee department of education this summer. >> because it's historically appropriate for 6, 7, 8-year-olds? >> reporter: they are angry about a curriculum being taught, mostly concerned about four books being taught in second grade. one tells the story of school segregation through the eyes of mexican-american students. one is about the march on washington. and two are about civil rights icon ruby bridges. >> i'll show you in the teacher's manual, it tells the teachers to teach about racial slurs. >> reporter: she said it's okay for kids to read the book, but not okay to talk about the pictures in the book, like norman rockwell's painting. >> it highlights the mean white people and how she's victimized and it speaks to nothing of the good. >> reporter: educators across the country are alarmed by talk like this. >> we see some sort of almost manufactured crisis here. there isn't a crisis in how we teach history in this country. you would never go into a school in germany and say, oh, why do you teach about naziism? you would never ask that question, because they do teach about it, because teachers want kids in germany to understand what that history was. >> reporter: the moms for liberty complaint says students are being taught lessons that have anti-american, anti-white and anti-mexican teaching. and state law may be on their side. >> we will not be teaching critical race theory in tennessee. >> reporter: in may, the governor signed a law that bans lesson plans that make students "feel discomfort, guilt, or anguish because of their race." moms for liberty says the new rules mean separate is never equal. a picture book about the california schools in the 1940s should be banned because it makes white and hispanic kids feel bad. >> it looks like the mexican kids are behind bars. >> reporter: that surprises the book's author. >> the villain here is racism and segregation. at the end of the book what i wanted to show is the mexican-american children and the white children being in school together and interacting and playing together with each other. >> reporter: these conversations about the past are very relevant. other moms in the community say. >> my son had an incident at his middle school where students locked arms and if you were white, they would break the arms to let kids go through. if you were black, they kept their hands together and told you that you needed to go back to mexico. >> they said they were building a wall? >> building a wall. >> reporter: these public school moms founded the group of one wilco after some racial incidents rocked the district. is what is's concerning about the law, it's not inclusive of everybody. i don't think it's divisive talking about these uncomfortable topics. >> they're bullying our school board. they're bullying our elected officials. >> reporter: the school board told cnn it's reviewing the books cited in the complaint. what would it mean for education if books like "separate is never equal" were pulled off the shelves by these laws we're seeing spread across the country? >> i think we're entering toward a scary time if we're talking about politicians banning books. educators know how to talk about race with kids, in an age-appropriate way. these conversations can be had, and in a way that is in keeping with our core values as americans. >> reporter: cnn, williamson county, tennessee. >> so we don't teach students or kids about things that make them uncomfortable. should you not teach about christopher columbus discovering america because it makes native american or black kids feel bad? 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