authorities, a miles-long steel barrier of texas state trooper vehicles has gone up. to deter the up to 30,000 haitians cnn has been told could be heading towards the border. >> if you are targ etsing texes too come to, we're going to show up in force and shut down the border. >> reporter: tonight, the camp beginning to dwindle in size. the fate of the migrants still there uncertain. some are returned to their home countries. others, like ruiz from haiti, are allowed to stay. he feels well that he is able to stay. blessed? one by one, migrants under the bridge, many of whom are haitian are loaded onto buses and transported to u.s. immigration processing facilities. >> we do enforce our immigration laws. those are not only the laws of humanitarian relief, but the laws of accountability. for those who seek to enter illegally, and do not have a claim for relief under law. >> reporter: some are expelled to haiti and other countries under a pandemic health rule. and nearly a thousand have been dropped off by border patrol at this nonprofit refuge pending their immigration cases in the past three days. according to the group's director. >> this is a tremendous amount, like nothing we've ever seen. >> reporter: that's where we met luis, a haitian who says he and his wife waited under the bridge for about a week. >> what did immigration tell you? he said that immigration told him that if he didn't appear in court he could get deported. his destination is new york. did anybody tell you why some haitians can stay and some haitians have to be deported back to haiti? he says that his understanding is that because he had an address, a family member he could contact in the united states, that he was allowed to stay. cnn has not been able to confirm luis' experience applies to everyone. the next stop for many of these migrants, a nearby gas station where vans and buses take them to cities across the nation. he's going to miami. that's where we met peter who is from haiti, too. bye, peter, thank you. as he says he's afraid of being deported to haiti, he has to run. his van has arrived. it's what life has been like for these migrants recently. a hurry up and wait into an uncertain future. the biden administration upping the number of deportation flights to seven a day. now that could include very soon not just haiti but also chile and brazil. some of the transition countries where haitians have been living for the past few years. not all of the migrants are being deported. we have seen, and you saw in that piece, that some of the migrants are being released into communities. we know from the local nonprofit organization in the past three days, nearly 1,000 migrants have been released. jake, that doesn't include the thousands of migrants who are being transported to other cities in texas for processing by u.s. immigration authorities. >> rosa flores for us, doing great work in del rio, texas. thank you. let's talk about this with sheila jackson lee from texas. she serves on the house homeland security committee. thanks for joining us. senate majority leader chuck schumer called the deportations of haitian migrants a continuation of hateful and xenophobic trump policies, unquote. schumer is talking about title 42 that's a trump-era policy allowing for immediate deportation for some migrants due to the covid pandemic. you've also called for the biden administration to end that policy. did you get any assurances today when you met with biden administration officials that they'll take action on stopping that policy? >> jake, thank you first of all for having me. why don't we start from point "a" and that is let us change the narrative. the narrative is that we have a human rights crisis at the border. i am a texan. we have about 2,000 miles, a little under 2,000 miles of border. and most of that border is well protected with legal points of entry and it operates appropriately. but what has happened is because of the trump relic of title 42 and the demonizing of immigrants throughout governor, governor abbott, who is look toward the next election, we can't seem to really know how to handle this surge. i think the biden administration is very eager to adhere to that we are a land of immigrants and a land of laws. and that is what secretary mayorkas was saying. that he has the ability to provide security of the border, but also, i think, our meeting with a number of officials in the white house got them to understand that one title 42 is discretionary. even dhs said that the medical expertise that was used there may not have been that accurate. and again, it's a relic of the trump administration. here's what we want to see. a moratorium and/or suspension of title 42 to be able to use the resources that have been sent to the border, meaning personnel, to determine and do as migrants did in other surges in 2014, surges in the spring of 2021, to be given the determination of who could get an asylum apopointappointment, they were families. we know some will have to be removed at some point, but when you have a narrative of the largest deportation in months or years, that does not fit favorably. that is not the administration. i know their heart is different. we saw that. we feel that we're going to see some changes, and we're going to also understand, jake, that as the homeland security has said, the migrants are not national security threats. >> so the president of the naacp was in that meeting with you today, and yesterday he came out with a scathing statement. quote, president biden is claiming on the world stage that america is back, but back for who? the humanitarian crisis happening under this administration on the southern border disgustingly mirrors some of the darkest moments in america's history. darkest moments in america's history. do you agree? >> civil rights leaders are respected. they are our partners. this was a meeting of the members of the congressional black caucus. i'm an officer of that organization. our chairwoman is chairwoman beatty. these were chairs and leaders of the democratic caucus as well. here's where we are. we take no back seat to the actions we saw, the intolerant reminiscence of slavery, the pain of looking at that action and maybe even feeling the pain in your own soul. so we're not really stepping away from that. we know, however, that there are actions at the border that don't reflect that, that the border is large. but i will tell you this. we made it very clear that the investigation must be held thoroughly and quick and individuals must be accountable. we already know those involved will not be anywhere near that area at all. the harsh detail has been an institution but i never in my 27 years of the united states congress ever have seen that and i've been to the border many, many times. we're on the road to changing this, and that reference to being black and our history of slavery, we cannot have that as a narrative of immigration. it must be erased. we're dealing with afghan allies, we're dealing with migrants from north -- central -- from the northern triangle and now haitians. we ghoumust do it right. >> a lot of the haitians crossing the border have -- they didn't just immediately flee haiti this year because of the earthquake or the political violence. they've been in central and south america for years, many of them. chile, brazil,colombia. some after the 2010 earthquake. they're coming now to the united states because of the deteriorating economy in many of those countries. does that change, do you think, the urgency with which the u.s. should admit these individuals, these migrants into the united states given that they're not fleeing an immediate occurrence? >> jake, i'm so glad you asked that question that you posed that question. because that's my legal interpretation. first of all, you're right. they've been in south and central america for at least a decade after the 2010 earthquake. and many of them did not become citizens of the countries that they're in, and there was an economic collapse. some of them do represent that they have been pushed out. i don't want to give that -- that i've documented it that they're not having any place to stay. and, of course, we know that haiti is a collapsed society at this time. assassination, earthquake, violence, and so they are stateless. this is a humanitarian crisis that the world knows about. when people become stateless, they are refugees of such that they have to find a place that can welcome them. and so i think this is an opportunity for the biden administration to distinguish itself. to deal with the u.s. department of state and to be able to craft and response to individuals that have not been determined to be a national security threat at all. and can be moved forward under that premise but given access to asylum and other immigration processes, families and children, unaccompanied children are being treated differently and really ease the time at the border. we have a pathway forward. we've done it when we had the migrants from the northern triangle. we've done it in 2014. i've been at the border at every crisis. and i will be there here as well. we believe in human rights and civil rights. that's what haitians deserve. jake, we can get it done. the biden administration has been really acting very strongly in the aftermath of the earthquake. we believe we're going to be responding to by this meeting. we're ready to roll up our sleeves and get a new motprotoc. >> sheila jackson lee, thanks for being here. his presidency is on the line. president biden trying to keep democrats together to get his agenda passed and save his presidency. plus, the president is trying to make nice with emmanuel macron after a deal left france fuming. stay with us. i'm not getting through the pandemic just to end up with the flu. i asked for fluzone high-dose quadrivalent. it's the #1-used flu vaccine for people 65 and older. fluzone high-dose quadrivalent is the only vaccine approved by the fda for superior flu protection in adults 65+. i'm not letting my guard down. fluzone high-dose quadrivalent isn't for people who've had a severe allergic reaction to any flu vaccine or vaccine component, including eggs or egg products. tell your health care professional if you've ever experienced severe muscle weakness after receiving a flu shot. people with weakened immune systems including those receiving therapies that suppress the immune system, may experience lower immune responses. vaccination may not protect everyone. side effects include pain, redness, and/or swelling where you got the shot, muscle ache, headache, and general discomfort. other side effects may occur. all flu shots are not the same. i raised my game with fluzone high-dose quadrivalent. ask your doctor or pharmacist for fluzone high-dose quadrivalent. growing up in a little red house, on the edge of a forest in norway, there were three things my family encouraged: kindness, honesty and hard work. over time, i've come to add a fourth: be curious. be curious about the world around us, and then go. go with an open heart, and you will find inspiration anew. viking. exploring the world in comfort. usaa is made for the safe pilots. like mac. who can come to a stop with barely a bobble. with usaa safepilot, when you drive safe... ...you can save up to 30% on your auto insurance. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. get a quote today. we're back with our politics lead. president biden is meeting with key progressive democrats at the white house as nearly his entire domestic agenda hangs in the balance. the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure deal and the $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation bill. both of them are at risk of collapsing. let's discuss. kasie, i have not seen conservatives railing against the budget deal the same way that i have seen conservatives, for example, going after obamacare in the past. you know what i mean? do you think the moderate opposition to it, whether it's gottheimer and other moderate democrats in the house or manchin, sinema in the senate, do you think that's truly out of principle? they actually think this is going to be bad for the economy? or are they afraid of being attacked? >> yeah, i'm not sure i agree with you 100%, jake. i take it -- >> that's not allowed. >> i know it's your show. >> go ahead. tell me. >> i think they know, and people are already talking about congresswoman jayapal was on with brianna keilar and said that lamb and other moderates are working with them and saying we're going to clip and save that, put that in campaign ads because they're helping them spend this $3.5 trillion. i think the moderates are afraid if they vote for this they'll lose. and i think republicans are eager to jump on that. there are more dynamics at play but fundamentally, i still think that's at the root of the issue. >> do you agree as the republican at the table? do you agree this would be -- i just come from a belief at this point that nobody cares about deficits anymore. and that if you are voting to spend a lot of money on the american people, they're not going to care. maybe i'm wrong. >> well, i do think there are some people that still care about this. but i don't think you see a lot of republican opposition at the moment because there's so much democratic infighting. why get in the way of that? democrats are threatening to take a democratic spending bill. by all means, go ahead. it really is sort of hilarious to sit and watch. democrats are trying to spend trillions of dollars and cannot figure out a way to do it. it's amazing. >> there's too many ways to do it is the problem. >> joe manchin, whatever you want and take a win. it's okay. i won't advise you guys anymore. >> that goes to what i think is actually going to happen. look, what we've seen is seriously -- [ speaking foreign language ] >> translate. telenovella, a soap opera. drama, infighting. >> it is messy. >> it is messy. absolutely. here's what i think is going to have a happy ending because i think every democrat there understands what's at stake. while the moderates might believe that they will be in peril if they vote for this because they'll be attacked by republicans, imagine if we don't get anything done? what is the argument to go to the american people to say, this is why we deserve your vote again when we didn't get anything done? so i think at the end of the day, they understand that everything is on the line. not just for them but for president biden as well. >> speaking of president biden, sources tell cnn that president biden is basically saying to his aides, stand back. i've got this. like no one knows how to do this better than me. that was definitely his pitch. but do you think that's true? >> i don't know that no one knows how to do this better than him, but he has had a lot of experience working with congress. this is what he's done. like his whole life. and even looking back at like u.n. funding and stuff like that. i was researching on that. i saw him making deals with jesse helms back in the day. this is what he has done. he's come up with compromises that everyone wasn't happy but they were able to get something done to fund the u.n. in the '90s. this is what he does. and so this is his time to try to shine. i don't know if he'll get it done but for the reasons you said, it's because they've got to do something. >> i'll say a couple of things. democrats in congress are counting on him to deliver here because they know that they've got this impasse and they need the white house to weigh in and honestly probably wish he had engaged earlier because now we're at this point where there's all this infighting. but the other piece is, one of the challenges they have is that the president's approval numbers are worse than they were six weeks ago or over the summer. afghanistan, this chaos that's engulfed us in the last couple of months. the reality that people feel like we're living in a second covid year. they are struggling to send their kids back to school. still masked. we're all still struggle with child care and all these other issues. and then the question of the economy. i'm hearing from members of congress in the midwest saying things are really, really bad. that iowa poll rnd scored what was going on there. and if -- >> showed biden with very low approval ratings in iowa. >> it was a really big swing in a reliable poll. and i think that's what republicans are essentially waiting for. and democrats know there's an inflationary risk with this $3.5 trillion plan. all of that means that joe biden has a little less political capital to spend with these people. >> yeah. >> so that i think is a challenge as well. but to underscore your point, i think they know at the end of the day, if they don't get this done, that's them. >> speaking of infighting. another thing is going on that's very interesting. president george w. bush who, generally speaking, has remained out of the political fray since he left office, he's holding a fundraiser for liz cheney for her re-election. she is obviously being challenged by any number of maga folks in wyoming for her house seat. now that donald trump has put his sights on her. does that surprise you that the bush team and its not just him. it's karen hughes, karl rove. they are getting the band back together. do you think that ultimately will help her? >> i do think it's interesting that she's reaching back to other republicans to show people this is what the party used to look like. i think trump would be eager to have a bush/trump matchup but the way this is really being framed, it is about january 6th. it's about democracy. you saw george bush speak about this at the 9/11 memorial in a way he's never done before. and what is interesting about this race is that liz cheney's opponent who used to be a cheney supporter, has not said much about january 6th. liz cheney is eager to talk about this. she serves on the committee. she wants to make this a test. her opponent is a lawyer and somehow got donald trump's approval without having to speak on this issue. i'll look forward to this debate because it will have national repercussions and my money is on liz cheney. >> she wants to run for president but has to win her house seat back first p. i don't know how much pull bush will have because of the base but i do think -- >> he can raise a lot of money. >> exactly. the money piece, what you said about him not getting into the fray. the fact that he did and his remarks on the memorial for september 11th, i think were jaw dropping. and i also think it would make a difference for independents, for suburban women, for all of those who understand what is at stake. and going back to the democratic telenovella, i hope these democrats understand, let's get this done cleanly because what's at stake not just for the midterms but the white house. a party wants to get something done for the american people. they party who doesn't believe in democracy and wants to take voting rights away and tell women what to do. >> former house speakers, republicans john boehner and paul ryan have also given money to liz cheney since all this started. >> yes. it's not clear that the republican party is their party anymore. it's the trump party. and so a lot of these debates. they may help liz cheney but ultimately, the party has moved away from there. it's not that time anymore. it's trump's time. >> thanks one and all. coming up next, a heated meeting about afghan evacuations. why some lawmakers stormed out of the room. stay with us. when subway® opened they changed the fast food game. but sometimes you gotta refresh ...to be fresh. welcome to the eat fresh refresh. refresh where there is so much new, some say that it can't fit in one ad. i say... ...we're talking a new all-american club, deli-style oven-roasted turkey and... oh, that's the new steak & cheese. oh yeah, i knew that. that's the one with the new... ...seasoning. and that was the new mvp parmesan vinaigrette . right. which makes a next level foot... hold up. the subway logo? 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>> listen. lawmakers were tremendously frustrated when they received this classified briefing from the state department, from the pentagon, from the department of homeland security about afghanistan. about these ongoing evacuation efforts. and briefers weren't able to provide them with answers to basic questions. such as how many americans exactly are still in afghanistan? how many afghans at risk exactly are still in afghanistan? and want to leave the country. now as a result, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, we should note, jake, stormed out of the room because they felt like they whereeren't getting t detailed information they needed to understand what else needs tock done here with regard to the u.s. evacuation efforts from afghanistan. now state department officials say that there are still about 100 americans still in afghanistan who have to leave, even though they've said about 75 or more have gotten out in recent weeks. they say that number is fluid because some americans are coming forth and saying they want to leave after not having made up their minds earlier. >> yeah, 100 american citizens. that doesn't include the legal permanent residents, the green card holders. kylie atwood, thank you. the fbi director told congress that the u.s. departure from afghanistan is a top concern for his agency with terrorist networks more able to reunite and possibly plan future attacks. >> we are, of course, concerned that the -- that there will be an opportunity for a safe haven to be re-created there. most importantly, we're concerned that foreign terrorist organizations will have an opportunity to reconstitute, plot, inspire in a space that's much harder for us to collect intelligence and operate against than was the case previously. let's bring in republican congressman mike mccall. he was at that homeland security committee hearing where the fbi director raised the alarm. also the ranking republican on the house foreign affairs committee. congressman, let's start there with this -- these potential threats that could re-emerge in afghanistan. today marks three weeks since the u.s. has been formally gone from the country. obviously, no one seems to disagree with the idea that, of course, without the u.s. there, there's a greater threat that al qaeda or isis-k or whatever could reconstitute, become a bigger threat. the argument that president biden and his director of national intelligence and others make is not that that threat doesn't exist but just that it's greater in other parts of the world like somalia or yemen, syria or iraq. do you disagree? >> well, i think the sahel region in africa is a big region. china is a big focus. i was with the british prime minister today talking about the agreement with australia that you talked about with france. to get nuclear submarines. and to the south china sea. but let's be honest. you have the taliban. it's the taliban five, the prime minister, president, a guy who harbored bin laden. haqqani network is the number two guy in this administration. and they never cut their ties with al qaeda. it rivals the numbers pre-9/11. the difference is now they've inherited a cache of weapons and cash. and it makes it a very dangerous situation. look, when i chaired homeland, we had threat briefings every month. external operations from isis and the caliphate. it's going to take them a little time to reconstitute, but it's just a matter of time before they come back to try to hit the united states. >> on august 29th, just days before the u.s. left afghanistan, the pentagon botched a drone strike that killed ten afghan civilians, including seven children. u.s. intelligence basically got it wrong. they were following the wrong car. it did not belong to an isis-k operative. instead the strike killed a father of seven. he spent 15 years working for a u.s. aid group helping to feed the poor. do you think that botched operation will make the u.s. hesitant to strike again in a similar situation where they think there's going to be a terrorist threat? how do you see intelligence gathering moving forward? >> the big point is they botched it even with us being present in afghanistan. think about our military completely out, title 10 forces, title 50 forces intelligence out of afghanistan. how can we conduct anything along these lines if we had it botched when we were in country. so as we remove -- have removed ourselves from afghanistan, when bagram shut down, a key national security asset, those were our eyes and ears not only for afghanistan but china, russia and iran. that is very important. and we've lost that capability. the chinese will most likely move in with their belt and road and potentially take that over. we have no embassy and our eyes and ears, this over the horizon theory, i believe, is really just, you know, it's a pipe dream. >> over the horizon is the theory that the u.s. can conduct intelligence operations and conduct strikes like this from different countries. that's what over the horizon means. it's like police-involved shooting. it's a term that the government uses but no one else in real life would. i want to gett your reaction to what kylie reported that the biden administration did not give, maybe they were not able to give or maybe reluctant to share the number of u.s. citizens, legal permanent residents, afghan allies who have special immigrant visas still in afghanistan, still trying to get out. what's going on? why are they reluctant to share that information, and do you sense that they have an urgency to get them out that needs to be there? >> are they not being transparent or do they not know the answer to that questions? >> those are the options. >> that's right. and the briefing, intelligence briefing, everybody walked out. you know, the fact is, i believe there's still hundreds of americans still left behind. the majority of the interpreters you and i talked about did not get out. and now i'm getting reports of executions, beheadings of their families and themselves. horrific stories. i don't think they know all the answers, quite honestly. the last report i got in was that there are servicemen who have their families over there, about 125 of them, and we can't get them. >> what do you men servicemen? >> afghans who served with us. >> oh, afghan allies. special immigrant visas. >> worked in the united states military and they have family left behind in afghanistan. they can't get them out of afghanistan. they are certainly, jake, going to be in the bull's-eye. >> state department officials say it's going to take weeks to get routine commercial flights back returning to kabul which would obviously help the evacuation process if there is one that's allowed to happen. how word are you? >> we're at the mercy of the taliban and those flights have been held up in sharif. >> mazar-i-sharif in the north. >> two flights out of there. hkia they've left a few flights out. the problem is countries accepting them. doha is the main place where they're flying to. but the longer they are left behind enemy lines, american citizens, interpreters, you know, the girls we talked about. i just worry about their overall safety. it could have been done better. as you know, i am conducting an investigation. we've hired an investigator to look into what happened. >> yeah. >> and how did this get so wrong over the last five months. >> congressman mike mccall, thanks for being here. always good to see you. so much for hiding behind your keyboard. a hacking group dlims have stolen data from far right websites. we'll explain the fallout, next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ monitor, check and lock down you money with security from chase. control feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. - stand up if you are first generation college student. 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>> it was big, jake. it was 150, at least 150 gigabytes, which is pretty much all of epic's customers. so it was -- they really spared no one in taking the data. in terms of who should be worried, it's not just epic's kft mores which include far right extremist groups but ordinary people who had their data swept up in this breach. epic also collected public information on the internet, email addresses from normal people, and that, too, was breached. some of these people are also demanding answers. >> and these far right groups were already, i would guess, fairly paranoid about the government surveillance after these -- those platforms helped facilitate the deadly violent insurrection on january 6th by allowing the communication. are there different, darker places on the web they might turn to? >> there always are. in this case, experts i talked to told me these folks could be looking to go to web hosters that are outside of north america and europe. maybe in russia. there's plenty of websites that are willing to host extremist groups and criminals so they'll just probably look to go there. >> has epic, the company that hosts these websites, have a responded to this breach? >> they have. they've downplayed it. they mentioned some of the data was already public and don't have an obligation to protect that. they said they have invested more cybersecurity protections and they've apologized to their customers because they had an obligation to sort of provide anonymity. that's what they were billing themselves as and the veil has been pulled off. >> sean lyngaas, look ford having you come on. a growing problem for many parents. child care. we'll dig into the rising crisis and the lack of child care workers. that's next. stay with us. topping our national lead today. hiring crisis at day cares across the united states. it could mean child care costs are going to increase. that is if you can find child care. most industries took a big pandemic hit. the overall u.s. workforce is down 4.5%. retail jobs down 2%. bars and restaurants down nearly 8%. but for day cares, the loss is 12%. 12% of the workforce. more than 125,000 day care workers, poof, gone. despite rebounding since last year's pandemic shutdown. if demand for child care is high, why are these skilled workers not returning to their jobs at day care centers? i spoke earlier today to heather who runs her own day care center in clyde, ohio, a small town west of cleveland. heather, let me start by saying, full transparency, we're taping this right now during naptime at your day care because this is the only time you can do it. you're so short staffed. and pretty much alone taking care of all of the kids. you have told me that i can talk in this voice, though, without fear of waking them up because you're in the other room so i don't want anybody worried about that. tell us how bad it is for you. how difficult this is. >> well, i usually have no problems getting even summertime help. but this is actually worse than what it was last year. i have tried indeed. i've tried everything possible. ads, flyers to hire. it's very hard. everywhere is hiring. unfortunately, again, being a home day care, i am just a small business. so i can't offer, you know, 12, $15, $20 an hour like bigger companies can. and i have been shamed on facebook, actually, for it. people laughing at the facebook ads and everything else. i was paying minimum wage. i bumped it up to $9 an hour. and recently up to $9.25 an hour, which is, you know, 45 cents more than our minimum wage here in ohio. >> how many employees did you have before the pandemic? let's say in 2019. how many employees did you have? >> i had four to five. >> have your former employees told you why they left? >>. >> yes. one, unfortunately, had an autoimmune disease that dealt with her heart so any illness or sick, especially having a day care, could put her at risk. her big fear was getting covid. some of the other employees left for higher paying jobs. that was the other thing. and it's -- i just can't pay it. >> right. >> so pay is a huge problem. >> why are day care providers typically paid so little when day care costs are not cheap for many families? >> well, putting it in perspective, i have four children of my own. and a grandbaby. so when my children were younger, day care costs are outrageous if you have more than one child, honestly. that was part of the whole thing on me doing day care. for us to have three children at the time in day care was costing, if i was to work a full-time job here in my town, my whole paycheck. and i get it. before i got remarried, i was a single mom of two in day care and unfortunately . parents meet ing. we have one of my main companies that i have kids here with. but there is fast food places, and even fast food places, you know, $12, $15 an hour, but add in costs of day care on top of all your other bills. it's hard for parents to pay that. so i do what i can. >> i hear. i understand. other than the individual who left because she has a compromised immune system and can't do this kind of work anymore, especially when there's not a vaccine for kids in -- as young as the ones you take care of, what do you think has changed in the united states to make it so tough for child care? is it depress ed wages? is it people reconsidering their life choices and deciding they don't want to work in day care or that maybe they don't want to work at all? what are you experiencing? >> well, i believe that one of my things is, unfortunately, and, of course, my own opinion, is that people really don't want to work right now. they have benefits, sometimes even better than working people, trying to make a living on unemployment. and i lost a lot of parents that are still on unemployment. and without the kids, then, of course, it's like a pyramid effect or domino effect, however you want to say it. it all rolls downhill to where i, at the very most, i am charging, you know, $3 an hour per child. and that doesn't really count for much weekly. and then trying to find an employee that wants to work at, you know, $9.25 an hour with, you know, no sign-on bonus or anything like that. it just kind of seems hard anymore. >> yeah. >> heather, thank you for taking the time to talk to us today. >> uh-huh. no problem. >> i made it through without waking up any of the kids. that's a huge achievement. thank you so much. >> yes, you did. uh-huh. thousands of people forced to evacuate, with a volcano expected to continue to erupt for days. that story is next. an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan from unitedhealthcare. medicare supplement plans help by paying some of what medicare doesn't... and let you see any doctor. any specialist. anywhere in the u.s. who accepts medicare patients. so if you have this... consider adding this. call unitedhealthcare today for your free decision guide. ♪ opreza: trabajar en recology es más que un empleo para mí, es una tradición familiar. tomé la ruta de mi padre cuando se retiró despues de 47 años. ahora le muestro a la nueva generación lo que es recology como una compañia que pertenece a los empleados. estamos orgullosos de haber creado el sistema de reciclaje. convirtiendo a san francisco, en la ciudad mas verde de america... sigamos haciendo la diferencia juntos. to our viewers in the united states and around the world, welcome -- in our world leading, masse spiv volcanic eruption in the could nairia islands just off the coast of morocco, forcing thousands to leave their home. hundreds of buildings have already been destroyed, as new eruptions continue for the fourth straight day. dramatic drone footage shows the fast-moving lava cutting a devastating swath through residential neighborhoods. experts are warning that the danger could last for as long as three months. you can follow me on facebook, instagram, twitter or tiktok. you can tweet the show at the lead. if you ever miss an episode, you can listen to "the lead" wherever you get your podcast it is. the whole show is there as a podcast. wolf blitzer is right next door in "the situation room." i'll see you tomorrow. happening now, breaking news. president biden is holding urgent talks over at the white house, capping a day of negotiations with divided democrats. he's desperate to end their infighting, and a make-or-break moment for his domestic agenda. cnn is on the scene of the migrant crisis. vice president harris raising grave concerns about haitians crossing into texas. the fda could reveal its decision on pfizer booster shots at any time. we're learning that cdc advisers are putting their ow

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