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"don lemon tonight" starts and i'm sure coverage of gabby petito and that investigation will be part of his show. and that is the latest piece, brother. >> yeah, you got the breaking news, brother. things can always change, but that's it. this story, we talked about it a little bit today, chris and i taped our podcast today. we talked about it a little bit today. but this -- for me -- you're the attorney. it seems unusual that someone who was possibly the last person to see gabby definitely before she disappeared and possibly or probably before she perished is somehow allowed to go scot free, roam scot free and get away with it. not a suspect, i get that. but just not even talk to police through an attorney? nobody watches to see his whereabouts and all of a sudden he's gone, nobody knows where he is. that just seems odd to me, and this is -- look, it's not about race. but it's about something that people not of privilege, it doesn't seem like they have the opportunity to do that. i mean, you know, i figured if most people would be hauled in and say you got to talk and do whatever. you say it's about whoever has an attorney. if you have an attorney, fine. if you don't, then -- >> an attorney is an officer of the court and everybody hates attorneys until they need one and the system and law makes very clear, you can't be made to talk to the police and they may tell you that but that's what miranda warnings are about and that's under arrest. here are the realities and some of them are frustrating. >> but hold on. before you go into that. but most people don't know that, chris. you get hauled in and police come, you think you have to talk. you think you have to talk to the police. it seems -- i think for me it's a learning experience because i thought they would have said look, you got to come in here and sit down and talk with your attorney present and maybe then -- >> they would never say that. >> not to even go in -- >> look, the police are almost always the good guys, all right? they are certainly in this situation. but look, here are the realities. okay? is this unusual? absolutely. i've never covered a case like it. where somebody has a loved one, even if they're fighting, even if the engagement was off, whatever. this is someone who matters to you and you have no part in looking for them. never seen it before. i've seen people who were guilty take a role in looking for someone who they knew exactly where they were. but never this way. the family was instructed by their attorney not to speak. why? because while that will seem suspicious, okay? the standard here is different. we're used to cancel culture where if something feels wrong, you can crowd source a consequence. >> this is before that. this is not cancel culture. >> no, no, i'm saying there is nothing cancel culture about it but i'm saying it sounds like there is something wrong. we don't like the family. no. they have a lawyer that said to them, the police are trying to make a case. if they talk to you, they can use whatever you say against you and against brian even if you didn't mean it that way. don't do it. most defense attorneys would give that advice. >> yes. i don't disagree with that. but to have -- to be able to have an attorney and do that and you ask any person of color, you ask a black man who -- if they have that privilege -- >> it's not a privilege. it's a right. >> i know that. i know. but most people don't know that and they're not treated that way by law enforcement even if you think that you know, cops are the good guys, many times they are but many times they aren't with people of color and poor people that don't have the means to be able to stand behind a lawyer and not go to speak. do you think like someone who -- you know, a don lemon, if i wasn't who i am, they would be like hey, get your butt in here. what do you know about the disappearance of such and such? why won't you talk? do you need a lawyer because you're guilty? all of that would go down. >> yeah, they do that to black people, white people, a lot of people. >> that's what i said. this is about black people and poor people. meaning -- because all people are poor. not all people. but there are people of all different ethnicities who are poor and they don't have the privilege of being able to afford an attorney who will tell them that they can't go in. what did you say to me today? until you're arrested, that's when you are assigned an attorney for free. >> if you -- >> otherwise, before then you've got to shell out some dough. for an attorney. >> but you don't need a lawyer. you just need to know your rights. and obviously you can't be compelled. not to get too far away from the fact pattern here. because the real problem here is that prosecutors are going to have to make a case. now, what you said initially, brian laundrie taking off, that is going to be consciousness of guilt to police. >> yeah. >> and it will be a huge portion of probable cause for them. you were the last person with her. you come back without her. you won't talk to us. and then you run. because that's all they know and the family told them no different because they say they don't know where he is. if they find brian laundrie, that could well be enough to arrest him. >> if they find him alive -- >> you're not going to arrest a dead person. >> that's what i mean. if they find him alive. because we know the possibilities of it. >> he may have sealed the ability to arrest him by what he has done. >> got it. let me say this, because we're back in the city. things are starting to reopen. i go around with my mask and sitting down and take a picture tonight. i was sitting down at a table and we'll talk about that. i'm actually sitting down at a table. people came over to say hello and i take a picture with them. here's the thing. i'm out and about in new york city finally after almost two years. and people are talking to me. and i'm hearing about you and chris, you got me through the pandemic, which i appreciate. people talk to me about other news stories tonight and you know this, mostly white folks came up to me and said man, you guys sure are paying a lot of attention to this because if it was some other young lady, i don't think you would be paying this much attention to this and i just sit there and i listen to them. i don't know the answer. i don't give them an answer because i want to hear what they have to say about it. you've heard that as well, haven't you? >> i have. not from so many white people but i have heard online mostly, i know you told me not to go there but i can't help it. my job is to engage -- >> to what? online. i don't do that. i don't look at comments. >> they say you're only covering this because she's white -- >> a cute white girl. >> and attractive and what about all the minorities who go missing? listen, to me it matters that gabby petito is missing. it matters to her family. it matters first of all as a matter of law. and it matters to anyone who is a parent or is that age, i mean, it just speaks to a huge fear that we all have of vulnerability. it should not be an or proposition. it should be an and proposition. you cover gabby petito and cover any other story that presents itself this way. but remember, it's not just about her. it's about kids going out at that age and doing something that is so popular now and putting themselves on social media and trying to build a brand and being away from home and then it becomes mysterious. >> it's also a mysterious story that's intriguing and people want to hear about it and people are interested in it. i agree with you. i know, you go on social media. i don't like to do it. "don lemon is turning this into a race thing." no, i'm telling you -- chris and i talk about the real stuff that people do. people are talking to me about this as it relates to race. they've spoken to chris about it. you see it online. don't pretend i'm turning this into something it's not. this is what people are talking about and this is what chris and i are talking about and that's why we get it straight and it's real here and you're going to hear the real deal from these two guys. that's why they call it the handoff because there is nothing better like it on television nor on a podcast. okay? there you go. i love you. >> if you say so yourself. i love you d. lemon. make your witness. >> i am right now. we'll talk about this and more including the breaking news chris gave us. this is "don lemon tonight." president joe biden here in new york city ahead of his first speech at the u.n. general assembly since taking office. the president, who ran on bipartisanship, his ability to get both sides to the table, now faces what you'd have to call open warfare between members of his own party. and it threatens to derail his agenda. so-called moderates and progressives battling over his signature infrastructure bill and alexandria ocasio-cortez saying tonight she is a no on the bipartisan bill that already passed the senate if the larger democratic-only bill hasn't passed by next week. joe manchin today digging in his heels, calling on democrats to slow their roll on a bill that he thinks has too high a pricetag. >> september 27th is coming up next week. is it possible this bill could pass by then? >> i said this before. i think you know what i feel on that. the bottom line is whatever you want to do get it right. and if there's not enough clarity then you need to get clarity. >> but you want it delayed to next year, right? >> no, you know what i said. i said let's wait and see whatever you need. i'll have a good idea. >> open warfare, right? ayanna pressley was blunt last week when she told me who she thinks the real obstructionists are in all of this. >> when it comes to manchin and sinema, let the record reflect who the real obstructionists are. i think progressives are often maligned and vilified for, you know, sitting at the -- for our advancing, seeking to advance bold progressive policies which are the people's policies, which are in fact the president's agenda. >> and then there is of course this battle against covid. pfizer announcing the news parents across the country have been waiting for, saying its vaccine is safe and generated what they're calling a robust antibody response in children ages 5 to 11. the news couldn't come at a better time with kids back in school and the cases on the rise all across this country. the american academy of pediatrics says there were nearly 226,000 new cases among kids over the past week. the second highest total during the pandemic. a tent has gone up, look at this, outside of children's hospital of pittsburgh where the number of children coming to the emergency department is being called historic. now parents are counting the days until their children can get vaccinated, maybe by halloween, but we're still seeing nearly 2,000 americans dying unnecessarily every single day. the country passing a grim milestone today. more than 675,000 people have died of covid in the u.s. more than died in the 1918 flu pandemic. we have two weapons against this virus -- vaccines and masks. vaccines and masks. so it's no time for leaders who should know better, who do know better, to be all, you know, do as i say, not as i do. san francisco mayor london breed scolding what she calls the fun police. okay? that's after she was caught on camera dancing and singing along at a black cat nightclub, no mask and without a drink or food in sight. the city's indoor mask mandate for all residents says that masks can be taken off "while actively eating or drinking." but the mayor is defending herself. >> no, i'm not going to sip and put my mask on, sip and put my mask on, sip and put my mask on, eat and put my mask on. while i'm eating and drinking, i'm going to keep my mask off. >> okay. well, as the pandemic of the unvaccinated rages, a grieving son and daughter lose their 45-year-old vaccine-hesitant dad to covid and tell cnn they blame misinformation from tucker carlson. >> you said from one media source in particular he was getting misinformation -- or he was getting information that led him to be hesitant on vaccines. who? who was he listening to? >> he watched some tucker carlson videos on youtube and some of those videos involved some misinformation about vaccines and i believe that that played a role. >> there you go. misinformation that leads people to question the vaccine. >> in your medicine, tell us the full truth but they won't. they have been telling us for six months that this vaccine is perfect but clearly, in some cases it doesn't always work. >> misinformation that makes people think vaccination is an assault on their freedom instead of the life saving medical miracle it really is. >> it makes you think once you think about it that maybe none of this is really about covid. maybe it's about social control. >> he should know better. he should know better. this is about public health, about saving the lives of millions of people. we have all the vaccine that we could ever need. people around the world would give anything to have the vaccines far too many americans are turning down in the name of an illusion of freedom, an illusion of freedom, an illusion pushed by people who should know better, who actually do know better and most of them fully vaccinated, their companies and where they work have vaccine mandates. but they won't tell you that. remember what some americans said about the seat belt mandates back to the 1980s. >> i'll have to detour the town to get to kalamazoo. they passed a seat belt ordinance. i don't use a seat belt. i would wear my seat belt to get caught, i get caught i guess. >> florida highway patrol lieutenant chris miller hears it all when it comes to seat belts. >> i hear it's uncomfortable. it wrinkles my clothes. it's not cool. >> there is no freedom no more. you don't want to wear it, that's your choice. >> sound familiar? listen, i know we're -- i want you to play that. i want you guys, play it again, please. but i want you guys, when they're talking about that, i want you guys to say -- think about vaccines and masks. it's uncomfortable. think about the masks. it shouldn't be a mandate, it's my freedom. think about the vaccine. but just listen to it and then superimpose, if you will, over that masks or vaccines, what they're talking about. let's play it all again. >> i'll have to detour the town to get to kalamazoo if they pass a seat belt orderance. i don't use a seat belt. i won't wear my seat belt. if i get caught, i get caught. >> highway patrol chris miller hears it all when it comes to seat belts. >> i hear it's uncomfortable. it wrinkles my clothes. it's not cool. >> there is no freedom no more. you don't want to wear it, that's your choice. >> now people basically, when you get in a car, especially in the front seat you almost have to put your seat belt on. some cars goes over you automatically. others, no one talks about that anymore. people just, guess what? they wear their seat belts. it's the law. no freedom, no choice. they said it about seat belts. now they're saying it about vaccines and masks and we have major news to tell you about. developments in the case of gabby petito. okay? chris gave you a little bit eat earlier about what the family is saying. the fbi search at the family home, happened today at the fiance brian laundrie for hours, just one day after investigators across the country found what they believe to be her remains. but there is still no sign of laundrie who came back to florida earlier this month, refused to talk to investigators and went missing last week. but i just want you to listen to this. this is aw chilling 911 call. the caller reporting what he calls a domestic dispute between petito and laundrie. this happening august 12th. >> we drove by and the gentleman was slapping the girl. >> he was slapping her? >> yes. and then we stopped. they ran up and down the sidewalk. he proceeded to hit her. hopped in the car. and they drove off. >> utah police described the couple as having an altercation. >> we've just been fighting this morning. some personal issues. we were in the car before. >> there's also news tonight on an external hard drive found in gabby petito's van. investigators say it may contain digital forensic data. we've got a lot more to come on all of this. so make sure you stay tuned. there are so many questions in this case. what was the fbi looking for at the laundrie family's home? and what might his parents have said about brian and gabby petito? we're going to dig into everything we know right now. plus, pfizer. pfizer saying its vaccine is safe for kids from 5 to 11 and generates a, quote, robust antibody response. so what's next? how soon can we get shots in the arms of america's children? renae is not an influencer, she's more of a groundbreaker. renae runs with us on a john deere 1 series tractor. because out here, you can't fake a job well done. hear renae's story at deere.com let's go walter! after you. walter, twelve o' clock. get em boy! 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>> yes. >> so explain what happens next, please, doctor. >> thank you, don. happy to be with you. so what is going to happen now is pfizer will put together their package of data related to the trial in children. that's going to be sent to the fda. the fda undergoes an internal process of review of those data and then they convene the advisory panel that i'm a part of to have an independent review of the data and that panel will make recommendations to the commission as to whether or not the vaccine should be approved for children. and that will take a matter of weeks. it is conceivable by halloween we could see shots going into arms, but it's going to take a number of weeks for that process to work its way through. >> okay. so the trial used, as i understand, correct me if i'm wrong, a 10 microgram dose, lower than the 31 that is used for people 12 and older. >> yes. >> are you confident the smaller dose is enough protection? >> the data certainly seems to suggest that. we always want to use the lowest possible dose of anything in children because children are not small adults and we want to be really, really mindful of safety concerns. so in the case of children we always want to use the minimum dose that's necessary to induce a response. so what we saw is with 10 micrograms in this age group the antibody response was equivalent to what you see in 16 to 25-year-olds. i think the 10 microgram dose worked just fine. >> you said children aren't small adults. look, i have a nephew, great nephew. i love him. he's a big dude. he's going into ninth grade. he's taller than me playing varsity football. so it's not about the size of the individual, is that what you're saying? >> it can be a matter of size of the individual but one thing i'd like to point out to people is that the systems in children, all of their systems are being developed and so if they get covid-19 -- >> got it -- >> -- and more importantly, if they get long covid, we don't know what effect that will have on them long term. so it's really important that we keep them from getting covid-19. but again, we also want to make sure we don't do harm by giving them a dose of a vaccine or a drug that will do harm. >> that's too much. >> it is possible for your nephew who is larger than the average child might be, that he might require a larger dose than typical children of his age, but again, the whole point is to make sure we use the least amount of the vaccine necessary to elicit a response in children. >> okay. look, just two things real quick. if you have a kid who is 11 about to turn 12, what do you do with that? do you decide they get the lower dose or what happens or the higher dose? >> i think if the child is about to turn 12, more than likely they will be given the dose for that age group. >> okay. what about under 5? 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>> well, the big thing is i think through the disclosure of the search warrant affidavit that was signed back on september 15th it kind of sheds a little light into we now know that for sure brian laundrie entered back into north port, florida on september 1st at precisely 10:26 a.m. from september 1st up until september 11th his whereabouts were unknown. i think there is a concern with respect to what vehicles he may have been utilizing with respect to his coming and goings from the family home. i think as we saw the mustang, the ford mustang being towed and searched, i think there is some concern and there may be some evidentiary value within that car. it may be the gps. it may be articles of clothing, things like that. inside the house of course we're looking for potential dna evidence, fiber evidence, and of course maybe most importantly any evidence with respect to something that would leave a digital footprint, hard drives, ipads, smartphones, things of that like. >> look, you covered these. i shouldn't say you covered it, you're not a reporter. you've investigated these and been part of it. what do you think happened here? >> i think you have two young people that obviously, it seems that maybe one or both of them had some issues and i think they were carefree. they took a long trip. when you look at just the accommodations -- >> but i mean what do you think happened here? people want to know what happened to her and why is he missing? >> i think obviously, the behavior that was displayed and witnessed with respect to him slapping her or showing some aggression, obviously, at some point that reoccurred and may have escalated to where strangulation or some sort of blunt trauma and then a panic and then of course, now we have this young girl who was left to the elements and he took off and went home and of course, it is just a matter of time to piece the pieces of the puzzle back together. >> yeah, we don't know. listen, he's missing. not charged. we don't know. but you've covered these cases and you know. or you've been involved in these cases, investigated them, so you know pretty much what happens or how this turns out. i want to read something about the last communications that her mother received from gabby's phone. that was found in her hard drive and it was a text and says can you help stan? i keep getting his voice mails and missed calls. now, this text refers to petito's grandfather as stan. her mother called this an odd text. what questions does this text -- or does it it raise anything for you? and what other information might be on that hard drive? >> of course. from an investigator's perspective i think we're pretty satisfied that this text message was sent from another person and not from gabby petito. certainly we all create or form habits. we all communicate in one sort of manner with particular people. i think it's obviously odd to refer to your grandfather by his first name. so obviously that was a red flag. perhaps not at the time but when you put the pieces of the puzzle back together, it obviously is indicative that gabby at that point may have been killed or something obviously happened and if brian laundrie was in possession of her phone he sent this sex message to the mother. and i think obviously common sense would dictate that it is possible now, and of course we have the video that was just discovered contemporaneously or in proximity to where her body was found, it places the van there on april 27th. so i think, you know, when you add it up it seems more likely than not that he sent that text message. >> well, here is the thing about that that i think people are missing. if indeed -- look, they're going to be able to figure out the time of death, right? when she died. and if those text messages were sent after the time of death, who else would know to call her grandfather stuart? you see what i'm saying? they're going to -- >> no question about it -- >> dan, excuse me. who else -- stan. who else is going to know that to be able to call him by name or some of those details from the text messages? so, you know, that's where i'm going with this. that's what i want to know. >> you touched upon exactly what you need to know. obviously by tomorrow hopefully with the autopsy we're going to get the cause of death. it's going to be ruled a homicide and just as important is hopefully to zero in on the time of death with respect to if in fact it is on or before august 27th, i think we have a pretty good case against brian laundrie. >> yeah. thank you. the reason i said stuart is because you're stuart. stuart kaplan. thank you very much. >> always a pleasure, don. >> i appreciate you joining us. i'll see you next time. thank you. >> my pleasure. haitian migrants trying to cross the u.s.-mexico border only to be chased and corralled by border agents. look at that. more after this. today let's paih new behr dynasty™... so that you can be proud of your walls. where's your furniture? 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what do you think of this? >> to me we all take the blame for it it because -- this has been 20, 25 years in the making, don, because we have a completely broken immigration system. it's not efficient. it's not effective. it needs to be fixed. i actually was with -- george w. bush tried to do this when i worked for him, and then the republicans killed the fix on it. so it fundamentally comes down to the inability of politicians and the gop has been at the forefront of this of not allowing any fix to the immigration system. it needs to be better. it needs to be better for efficiency, for security, but it needs to be better actually for a more compassionate and secure immigration system. so we need to fix it. it's a huge problem, and it's not a problem from the donald trump, you know, view of this where it's like let's keep the immigrants out, but it's a problem from we need a system where people know what to count on. >> mm-hmm. according to the new book "peril" by bob woodward and robert costa, a conservative lawyer working within president trump's legal team tried to convince mike pence that he could overturn the election by throwing out electors from seven states when the votes were certified on january 6th. i mean, it shows just how close we came to really turning out -- this thing turning out entirely differently really in the wrong way here, matthew. >> well, don, as i read that -- and all of us, you know, we don't think we're going to be surprised but i'm continually surprised by all of this. this wasn't just some spontaneous thing of a few oddballs that did this which led up to january 6th. this was an actual internal attack on our constitutional system that we have here and our democracy and it was at the highest level and as i've said all along, you and i have had this conversation, until those higher levels of people are held accountable we're going to be dealing with it because they think they got away with it. and that includes the former president. that includes the former attorney general. that includes certain congressmen and certain senators in this. but this was a concerted, organized effort to undermine the constitution of the united states of america. and we need to hold those people that hold high positions of power accountable. we have to. >> matthew, you know texas well because, you know, you're coming to us from texas tonight. right? i have to ask you about -- >> and i've lived here almost 40 years. >> yeah. i have to ask you about a "new york times" report that former democratic congressman beto o'rourke is inching closer and closer to announcing a run for governor in your state. he narrowly lost to senator ted cruz in 2018, dropped out of the 2020 presidential election before any votes were even cast in the primaries. is the third time the . >> well, you know, we're in a different circumstance. beto's a friend of-mile mine. i knew beto before he ran the first time for the united states senate. this is a state if he ends up announce, which it looks like he will, that still is light red. but i think because of the actions of the governor and the lieutenant governor and other elected officials, they're vulnerable. i think they're very vulnerable, even in a red or slightly red state. but he's going to have to run, you know, the right campaign with the right message and do it in a very disciplined, very disciplined way. so i think he's got a shot. he's very popular among the democrats but he has work to do among the independents. but don't underestimate, i think, how vulnerable dan patrick is because not only covid and not only his actions on the culture war, but also the failure of the electric grid, which they never fixed and put the burden of fixing it on ratepayers. so he's vulnerable, but beto has got work he's got to do. i think he understands that, but he has work to do to define himself in line with, you know, texas values. but the governor, the current gop governor, is very vulnerable. >> well, there are whispers that matthew dowd might run too. >> those whispers, do you listen to those whispers? >> i'm just sayin'. >> you know, i -- i just -- i have come to the place where i will do anything to help our democracy. we're in a moment and especially in the aftermath of january 6th, i came to the conclusion like this system is beyond broken, and it needs to be fixed. and i'm going to do whatever i can to do that. and my view is that until the republicans, who have participated in this and especially in texas and all the things they've done -- until they're beaten soundly, this is going to continue to go on. so in whatever way, i'll just say this. in whatever way i can serve, and that can be anything from registering voters in my county here to volunteering on whatever campaign to possibly running, you know, time will tell. but i'll do whatever i can to make sure that these republicans are held accountable. >> okay. thank you, matthew dowd. that was a whisper. thank you, matthew. i appreciate that. we'll see you soon. >> take care. i've got something close to my heart that i want to share next, okay? so check this out. that's me in the pool, and when i tell you why, you're going to smile. the story is next. 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