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they made a right onto main street from moonflower. >> what were they doing? >> we drove by and the gentleman was slapping the girl. >> he was slapping her? >> yes, and then we stopped. they ran up and down the sidewalk. he proceeded to hit her, hopped in the car and they drove off. >> you said it's a white van? >> white van -- i can give you the license plate if you give me one sec. i took a picture of it. >> what kind of white van? like a big one? >> it was a smaller van with a license plate of -- it was white, florida license plate [ bleep ]. it was -- the make was a ford, model was transit, black ladder on the passenger side. >> black ladder passenger side? >> white ford transit. >> white ford transit. >> randi kaye joins us now. she is now in moose, wyoming not far from where the remains were found, most recently in utah. randi, what's the latest? >> reporter: anderson, that 911 call puts gabby petito and her fiance, brian laundrie, in mow ab, -- moab, utah on august 12. we now know they were there. police recorded their response on body cam camera, so we know gabby petito was visibly upset on that body cam camera, she was crying, she told police that sometimes she does fight with her fiance, she deals with ocd. but police didn't think it was too bad and just told them to settle it tonight and went on their way. we went to wyoming to try to follow their steps along the way, and here's what we've learned about what could turn out to be gabby petito's final weeks of her life. >> hello, hello, and good morning. it is really nice and sunny today. >> reporter: gabby petito's social media post. a road map of sorts to where the 22-year-old was headed. each post, each stop a clue as authorities scoured miles of terrain from utah to wyoming, zeroing in on her final steps. gabby petito was reportedly seen checking out of this fairfield inn and suites here in salt lake city on august 24. a staff member has confirmed to us that the fbi and the police were here recently asking questions as part of their investigation into her disappearance. the same day gabby was reportedly seen checking out of the hotel, she facetimed with her mom, saying she was leaving utah and heading to the grand teton national park. that means gabby and her fiance, brian laundrie, would have been heading north. they were driving gabby's converted white 2012 ford transit van with florida plates. their planned final destination reportedly was yellowstone national park. on august 25th, the last post on gabby's instagram put her at the monarch, an arts and entertainment venue. we found the monarch and the same mural posted in gabby's instagram photo here in ogden, utah, about 40 miles north of salt lake city and about 260 miles south of the tetons. the owner of the monarch tells us that the photo gabby poelsed was taken here at the monarch. he also said he shared security camera video with the fbi. on the monarch's facebook page, she posted these three pictures of gabby petito at their venue. the post reads in part, has anyone seen this beautiful woman? gabby petito has been missing since late august. as the couple made their way from utah to the tetons, they could have taken the main interstate, highway 15. but if they were looking for a slower, more scenic route, they might have turned off 15 and driven west, winding their way through alpine and hoback before turning north again to wyoming. we know gabby texted her mother numerous times on august 25. at that time they believed gabby was in the tetons. the family attorney says there was more texts between gabby and her mom. that same day video bloggers caught a glimpse of a white van parked in the area known as the spread dispersed camp area. they said the van was gabby's. what did you think when you heard? >> i couldn't believe what i was seeing. >> reporter: they said they spotted the van on august 27, but it was dark. they then uploaded it to their tip site. she said she put it on the find gabby facebook page, prompting gabby's mother to reach out. >> i facetimed her today. it was very beautiful. we had a good cry, two moms, one to the other, and she just told me that she loved me and she couldn't thank me enough for finding that footage for her. >> reporter: three days after that video was taken on august 30, gabby's family got a final text from her cell phone. it read, no service in yosemite, though her family doubts she was the one who wrote it. in recent days the search for gabby was here in the spread dispersed camping area. teams from the park service and the u.s. forest service all conducting ground semarches her in the teton national forest encompassing more than 300 acres. the fbi had asked anyone to come forward who might have seen gabby and her fiance around here in the final days of august. then late sunday, human remains were spotted in the forest consistent with the description of gabby petito. >> do we know when they'll know for sure if the remains that were found are of gabby? >> reporter: anderson, they're doing the autopsy tomorrow, so we hope to have some more answers then, but authorities have already offered their con do --condolences to their family, but obviously they want to know for sure. we want to know the exact spot in terms of where they were found in that campground. we also want to know how she died, if it is her, indeed, if those remains are her. so a lot of questions still tonight, and of course her last instagram post was august 25th, so if investigators were tracking her, we want to know how they ended up in that exact spot. was it social media they were following as we were? was it a tip? this is a vast acreage, as i said, and i'm sure her family wants answers as well. >> thank you. leyla santiago in florida outside brian laundrie's family home where investigators just wrapped up a search. what are you seeing, what are you learning? >> reporter: we were here as a caravan of cars with law enforcement arrived. we watched as fbi agents yelled out "search warrant," took the parents out of the home and executed a search warrant and headed back in. they've taken evidence in terms of -- we've seen them put paper bags into vans, take that away. they towed a mustang away as well, but also today, we obtained a search warrant from last week that was taken out for the van, in which they were traveling. investigators found a hard drive, and with that warrant, the stated probable cause talks about an interesting text from august 27th in which her mother received a text that said, can you help stan? and she found that odd because stan is the grandfather, and she thought it was odd that she would call him stan. and that was a red flag for her, enough to become concerned that something was wrong. >> and authorities were searching this nature preserve over the weekend. do we know where they're now looking? >> reporter: we don't know, anderson. we know that the fbi has said tonight that they are done s searching the laundrie family's home. we were there over the weekend as they were searching in this reserve because the parents indicated he might be there. but ultimately the local police, the north port police and the fbi are still searching for a lot of answers here. so they are moving forward with the investigation. obviously they have a lot of evidence to comb through that was gathered here. we're also hoping that tomorrow we can get some more information because the attorney for the laundrie family is expected to brief the media, make some sort of statement after all the activity that happened here, including the fbi questioning the parents. >> leyla santiago, appreciate it. crime fighter john walsh is the host of "in pursuit" on wednesday, 10:00 eastern on discovery and streams on discovery+. so the 911 call we heard was a potential domestic dispute between the two with the caller saying the man was slapping the girl. when you hear the 911 call, what do you think? >> it was chilling to hear it today and it made me feel really, really bad, because i said, how is it that that 911 operator and they're hard pressed and that phone rings all the time,' i've been in a ton 911 centers, didn't get the information to the deputies who stopped them. i looked at that and it said he was the victim. i looked at it from an fbi friend of mine and i was terrified when i saw it that it didn't come out from the wonderful people that made the call that said he was slapping her. so the deputy sheriffs say that he was the victim. we looked at it, this fbi friend and i looked at it, and i said this girl is terrorized. this is classic domestic abuse. he's terrorized her not to tell the cops he was the aggressor, he was the slapper and the puncher, and it's so sad because she might be alive today. that wasn't translated to the two deputy sheriffs who pulled them over. they let them go and in the report said she was the aggressor. she was terrified. it just was chilling to see that those cops didn't get the information that the person who called in was so concerned that he pulled over, a tourist, was so concerned because he saw this guy beating gabby. >> how great is it that we're at a point now that people know to take this kind of thing seriously and that that person had presence of mind to photograph the van -- there are a lot of people who might have seen that and said, oh, it's none of my business, it was just a slap or whatever. that person took it seriously and that matters. >> you're absolutely right. i've been doing this, and you and i have been talking about it since my son was murdered in the early '8 0s, my son adam. it's the public that will solve this case and i believe the public will catch this guy. i'm going to put it on my new show -- well, it's the third season -- on wednesday night, because i've learned one thing. what you just said there, anderson, it's the public that solves these crimes. i solved 30 crimes and it wasn't me that caught them, it was people calling in on the fbi hotline. they just think they'll show up at their house, they'll be dragged into court. i'm going to do this wednesday night. i don't care who you are, what your name is, whether you're legal or illegal, whatever, just give me the name, the place and we'll pick up the guy. we're going to put the heat on brian on wednesday. the whole thing is so sad, anderson, because this family did not help at all. and this girl lived with them. brian's fiance gabby lived with them. when he showed back up with her van and he laid around the house for ten days, he could have scrubbed that van -- i bet the fbi didn't find much in that van. they certainly didn't find anything in the house because her parents didn't file the missing persons report until ten days after he had been there. and his family helped him. this ruse about this lawyer, i hope this steven better steven his 15 minutes of fame. they said, well, he took a backpack and he went to meditate, and then he left the car and the parents got the car, and then he left a note for them and they were sad, wondered if he needed any help, then they brought the car home on thursday. then this wonderful lawyer called the cops on friday and said, we're doing the right thing. we're going to tell you brian went to that reserve. you know what it was? it was a red herring. they bought brian four more days to run. it's disgusting. at some point this mother and father have to realize that somebody's beautiful daughter was murdered by their horrible sociopathic son, her fiance, and his parents were helping him. it's sad, it's just really sad. >> what will investigators use at this stage, do you think, to try to track laundrie down? obviously he would be as aware of this as anybody. some electronic devices, there is hope there might be a ping, or at least where they had been in the past, they might be able to get more of a sense of it from tracking various electronics. what are they doing? >> well, it seems to me the lawyer and his parents are giving him a lot of good advice. i'm sure he bought burner phones. he's not using any phone that was recognizable. i'm sure he went into a store and bought a phone with 100 minutes. they have to keep close eyes on the mother and father. they've been helping him all along the way and i've caught hundreds of fugitives whose relatives helped them. i caught a guy on the u.s. marshal's 1500 most wanted, and his mother helped him for 15 years. he killed their mother in a domestic dispute in front of their children, but when he clocked the mother who helped them, she's sitting in prison doing five years right now. so they're the parents of a murdered girl. they have one chance in life to do the right thing and go in and tell the lawyer and the parents everything they know. because i tell you what, if they want to see their son alive, he might get taken down in a bad capture. if they're trying so hard to keep him alive, they need to say, look, son, you did something so horrible. we helped you, but it's a terrible thing and you ought to come in. i told the lawyer he should have come in on his own where they could have made a deal. now there's no deal for brian. he's going to get the book thrown at him and maybe the parents will get charged, too. they're not going to like this guy in prison. he's a girl that beat a 90-pound girl to death, and they're going to catch him. i hope the public on wednesday night start calling my hotline, or tonight, anderson. you and i did a show years ago that after i did the show, if you remember, you subbed for regis and we caught a guy off that show. if you don't want to call the cops, if you don't want to call the fbi, call my hotline and we'll pick this creep up. >> you mentioned adam, your son. it's been 46 years since he was abducted. the agony that a parent goes through is something you understand. for the petito family it's compounded by the betrayal of the fiance and the family of the fiance who didn't help them at all. do you have a message for the petito family as they go through this? >> my prayers are with the petito family. i've saddled up. i'm going to do everything i can to help you catch this guy to make sure he faces justice, and nobody knows that pain. the loss of a child, we don't have it in our genes to bury our children, anderson. you have kids. you can't imagine if somebody killed those kids and you had to go to their funeral. my prayers are with them and i'm trying to help them in my own way. we are parents of children, and it's justice. we need to see this creep brought in and pay for this. my heart goes out to them. it just ended in a horrible, horrible way. this guy is a coward. this guy is a coward who beat and killed a 90-pound, beautiful, wonderful, sweet young lady. he's going down sooner than later. >> john walsh, i appreciate you being with us. the program, "in pursuit" wednesday at 10:0 p.m. on discovery and streaming on discovery plus. the death toll from covid now higher than the devastating 1918 flu pandemic. an extraordinary milestone. some hopeful news, though, on the pfizer vaccine and how it seems to be helping in young children. and donald trump's election obsession and how far he can carry a grudge. heyyy! 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[uplifting music playing] ♪ i had a dream that someday ♪ ♪ i would just fly, fly away ♪ tonight's breaking news is a tragedy 100 years in the making. tonight the pandemic topped 675,000, surpassing the 1918 flu pandemic. looking at the flags, one for every father, mother, neighbor, every grandparent and grandchild. fatalities growing at the rate of 200,000 human beings every day in this country. due to people not willing to get vaccinated, there's no other reason for that many people to be dying every single day. there was also real hope today. pfizer authorized its vaccination for kids as young as five, data showing it's safe and has a robust response. i want to talk about that and when the doses can be given. we have dr. leana wen. also with us dr. sanjay gupta. his book out is "the covid pandemic and how to prepare for the next one." sanjay, what are you learning about the vaccine being approved for kids 5 to 11? >> they started wondering how to do it for kids that age, and it's a lower dose. they have about 2300 participants in the trials. they got two of these doses separated by 21 days just like we heard for the pfizer vaccine for everyone else. what they did was they were looking for any safety signals, and they said basically the side effects of this vaccine very similar to older people who may have received this vaccine, and then they looked at how much antibodies were being produced. they found that neutralizing antibodies were very similar, again, to people who were older that received this vaccine. that's what's called a correlative measure. they're basically saying, hey, look, if you're producing that level of neutralizing antibodies, there's a good chance it will prevent people from getting sick, like they heard before. they still have to collect that data, but that's where things stand now. >> dr. wen, what's the next step in this? it's a smaller dose than adults are receiving. i guess parents are wondering what they should do if they have an 11-year-old about to turn 12. >> i think there are two things to state about the dosage issue which many parents have a question about. one is that more is not better when it comes to a dose. different doses were tried and the lower dose that produced a strong antibody response is typically what's collected. as the next step, i hope we'll see the pfizer data, and if, in fact, we're seeing that five or 11-year-olds are having a very strong response in the lower dose, that would be good news. plus the lower vaccines are not weight based. a mother may be saying, my 11 year old is smaller than my five-year-old in weight and size. vaccines stimulate the immune system with t-cells in the bloodstream. that's why when you get the flu vaccine, you're not asked about your weight. you don't get double the vaccine if you're heavier than someone else. that's why kids do not need to be waiting until they turn 12 to get the vaccine. >> once kids under 11 are eligible for the vaccine, how big a difference do you think it will make, especially with kids back in school now? >> it's a really important question. this is about 9% of the population we're talking about here. while kids are less likely to get infected and get ill, they can. and so i think it will certainly make a difference in terms of reducing the likelihood of -- not just deaths, we always talk about things in life or death but illness as well in terms of the long-term symptoms people develop. also reduce the long-term spread from children and adults. this has come up before, anderson. it works if people get it, obviously. we know with the flu vaccine, we had a conversation two years ago about the fact that less than half the adults get a flu vaccine every year. for kids that age, it's around 65%. but when you look at recent polling asking parents of children ages 5 to 11 how likely were they to get the vaccine, you had 40% that said they would wait and see, 25% that said they would absolutely not plan on getting it, 25% that said they actually would get it and 9% only if required. so how big a difference will it make? it will make a difference if people actually get the vaccine for reasons that i mentioned. >> doctor, it's a mazemazing to the people that have died and people still aren't getting vaccinated. why do you think we've become so numb to this? i remember people saying it's unlikely -- that was an extreme thing, we're not going to get there. we're past there now. >> we just keep crossing terrible milestones. we passed the milestone last week of one in five americans who have died of covid. when it comes to comparing the flu pandemic back in 1919, the difference was they did not have a vaccine that could actually stop the pandemic, and also that our death numbers keep on escalating. we're still having more than 2,000 deaths right now. so we're going to surpass other horrible milestones that could be prevented. i hope people will keep in mind the choice to remain unvaccinated is not just about the unvaccinated. the individuals who are unvaccinated, there is spillover impact to those who are vulnerable, and there could be vaccinated people who are now dying because of the unvaccinated and now, of course, young children. we need to stop this pandemic through vaccination. >> dr. wen, sanjay, appreciate it. the first lawsuit tied to the texas abortion ban. a doctor violated the law by performing an abortion after september 1st. his attorney joins us next. i made a financial plan to live it every day. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com why bother mastering something? 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>> an anti-abortion group has filed a complaint against him. they have taken the position in supreme court that they cannot take a stand of any kind. but this law creates intimidation for doctors and it creates denial of a woman to have a constitutional right to an abortion. >> there is another lawyer who has been disbarred. under this law, just anybody can make a complaint? >> this law is the worst nightmare of the anti-abortion forces, the people behind this law, because it just underlines how difficulty this is. you have this disbarred lawyer in arkansas under house arrest filing one lawsuit, some random person in chicago filing the other lawsuit. how and why they should be able to sue a doctor in san antonio for doing something that is at least at this moment protected under the united states constitution is just crazy, but it is apparently what this law allows. and the advantage that nancy northrup and the other people who are defending dr. braid have is finally a judge will be able to say this law is unconstitutional because of the strange structure of the law, so far, including the united states supreme court have basically thrown up their hands and said, well, there's not really a challenge here, it's premature, and they haven't ruled on the constitutionality and this law is now depriving women of the rights that they are guaranteed into its third week. these lawsuits should finally get the question of whether the law is constitutional before a judge. >> nancy, what would that mean? a judge would then rule on the constitutionality of it and would there then be a stay on the law? >> well, yeah. w we are fighting hard to get an injunction against this law in texas as is the department of justice that filed suit recently as well against the state of texas. it has just been way too long, as jeffrey pointed out, it's been three weeks since this law has been a law. the law has obviously been a law for 48 years. congress needs to step in as well and the house is taking a vote on the women's health protection act this week. >> jeff, does it surprise you the courts aren't acting more quickly? you and i discussed this last week, the department of justice tried to get a ruling, i think, much earlier and a judge said no. >> well, the real fault here, as far as i'm concerned, is with the five justices of the united states supreme court who refused to address the demand for a stay of this law. there is no question that this law is contrary to the constitution as it has been interpreted, as nancy said, for the past 48 years. abortion is feeffectively illeg in texas. women are being deprived of their rights every day and five justices of the supreme court said, well, we'll get to it when we get to it. that is an outrage what the supreme court did, but responding to that, the other judges in the lower courts have not ruled on the merits, either. that's a shameful thing, and these two lawsuits will at least get the constitutionality of the law squarely before a judge. but, again, weeks are going by and women are being deprived of th their rights in texas. >> i appreciate it. governor newsom sent a new letter to the judge of new york asking him to declassify the recall in california. he and donald trump, we'll have his reaction next. in 2016, i was working at the amazon warehouse when my brother passed away. and a couple of years later, my mother passed away. after taking care of them, i knew that i really wanted to become a nurse. amazon helped me with training and tuition. today, i'm a medical assistant and i'm studying to become a registered nurse. in filipino: you'll always be in my heart. in business, it's never just another day. it's the big sale, or the big presentation. the day where everything goes right. or the one where nothing does. with comcast business you get the network that can deliver gig speeds to the most businesses and advanced cybersecurity to protect every device on it— all backed by a dedicated team, 24/7. every day in business is a big day. we'll keep you ready for what's next. comcast business powering possibilities. even though it's been almost a year since the 2020 election, the former president is still lying and refusing to accept that he lost. on friday he sent a new letter to the florida secretary of state brad raffensperger demanding that he ratify the results in that state. raffensperger refused to acknowledge the now proven facts and that the election truth not be told. >> i have to put my duty above country, above all. we do audits and some of those are still ongoing, so i can't comment on those. but vice president biden did carry the state of georgia. >> senior white house reporter michael bender. frankly, we did lose this election. michael, clearly the president continues to lie about this. there is no evidence to back up the president's bogus letter to secretary raffensperger which we already knew. the fact that he's still clinging to these old lies and sort of dressing it up as if it's somehow new, quote, unquote, evidence, did it surprise you that he chose to br write this letter? what was the point of actually writing a letter and publishing it? >> it was him saying he did not lose the 2020 election and he's sticking to that. it is frightening that he's sticking to this message. in the run-up to the riots in the capitol in january, there were a lot of people around trump who thought he was going to find his own way to maybe not a concession, exactly, but some way to say he lost and leave office gracefully. but he had been promising something quite different for five years. my reporting over the last year since he left office is that the folks around him have largely said the same. not that trump is necessarily looking for victories in georgia and arizona and michigan, but any piece of a victory, anything he can call a victory or show some minute piece that was mishandled or he had gotten wrong and claimed victory on it and hoped he can move on from that. we see this letter and realize that is not the case. he'll stick to his guns on this. >> there is no moving on for the former president because this is the only thing he has to try to continue his relevance, to try to have a litmus test in the republican party for who to support and who not to support. you either buy into the lie or you'll be on his enemies list. >> that's right, and we're seeing it bear out time and time again with how he is conducting himself. like michael, i have heard from people who were around the now former president and have been around him for a long time who say that he just cannot stand the idea of being called a l loser. so every move that he makes, and this letter is an example of that, is to try to prove that he wasn't actually a loser. but i also think that what's important to look at is where we go from here. because since what happened in 2020, the state of georgia, just like other states that are run by republican legislatures have changed the law. and it's a real open question whether or not -- never mind 2022, the midterms, but in 2024 if this kind of thing would happen, if secretary raffensperger, whomever has his job, would be able to hold the fort. it probably wouldn't be the case because the legislature has a lot more power, and that what, looking ahead, is most disturbing to a lot of people. >> michael, obviously another person feeling the former president's wrath is minority leader mitch mcconnell. i know you have new reporting that the former president wants him to challenge mcconnell's leadership position. >> that's right, and these two stories tie very well together. the dispute between mcconnell and trump goes back, really, to mitch mcconnell's refusal to undermine the election along with donald trump, really, and now trump is trying to oust him, trying to get him out of a leadership position that he's held longer than any other republican in the history of the party. the striking thing to me is that -- dana had a very good point here about trump holding onto this idea that he won the 2020 election because he didn't want to be called a loser, but there is no reason for him to give it up at this point because he's convinced 65%, 70% of the republican party that he did win. so while he's able to convince all these republicans that he won in 2020, what he can't convince anyone, or he hasn't yet, is to attack mitch mcconnell. one ally after the next, one trump ally after the next in the senate came to mcconnell's defense and said this is -- donkeys will fly before they vote the senate came to mcconnell's defense and said this is, you know, donkeys will fly before they vote mcconnell out. trump's endorsed candidates in the contested primaries in pennsylvania, north carolina, georgia. herschel walker wouldn't be running without trump. refused to weigh in and say whether or not he would vote for mcconnell for another term as leader. that will be something to watch here. the party should be figuring out how to take advantage of biden's poor approval ratings and he's fighting over who is the leader of the senate republicans. >> dana, mcconnell will hold on to his power, don't you think? >> no question about it. no question. even those as michael reported, who are as loyal as they can to donald trump, they will be more loyal to mitch mcconnell. and they want him as their leader. >> kh dana bash, appreciate it. michael bender. more breaking news next. what we're learning about another u.s. official falling victim to that mysterious and possibly deliberately inflicted so-called havana syndrome. before we talk about tax-smart investing, what's new? -audrey's expecting... -twins! ♪ we'd be closer to the twins. change in plans. at fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan. seeing blood when you brush or floss can be a sign of early gum damage. new parodontax active gum repair kills plaque bacteria at the gum line to help keep the gum seal tight. new parodontax active gum repair toothpaste. renae is not an influencer, she's more of a groundbreaker. renae runs with us on a john deere 1 series tractor. because out here, you can't fake a job well done. hear renae's story at deere.com new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today. you need an ecolab scientific clean here. and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too. seek a commitment to clean. look for the ecolab science certified seal. more breaking news. a new case of that mysterious illness dubbed havana syndrome whether sickened hundreds of officials over the past few years causing sensory experiences and physical symptoms. cnn's cali at wood has more. what is the latest you're learning about this latest incident? 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