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with us this sunday, may 2nd. thanks for waking up with us. christi, always a pleasure to be with you as well. >> i'm so glad you're here for us. so take a look at this. >> and i don't know if you can hear the applause. but we have visual confirmation of the crew 1 resilience capsule. >> there's excellent news. we are splash down. >> it's funny how he said i don't know if you could hear the applause, that's pretty much all we could hear, the four astronauts just made a safe return to earth. this was a record breaking mission in space, folks, the spacex crew splashed down safely in the gulf of mexico. you see there, here's the capsule, it was pulled out of the water, and it made its way to the recovery vessel, and then here in just a moment, as we get to the video, you're going to see the commander of crew one, there he is, stepping on to earth for the first time since getting to the international space station back in november. that is the longest time ever in space for a u.s. crew, launched from an american built spacecraft. big applause here for them as well. everything that they did, and a good recovery wish to them as well because we know that it's going to take a little time to readjust. >> for sure. congratulations on a successful mission, and welcome back to earth. of course, the big story that we're looking forward to here on earth, at least in the united states in the coming week, is president biden taking on the role of salesman in chief. he's hitting the road to pitch his view that thanks to big government, the country is in recovery and that new multitrillion dollar investments are going to be needed to keep it going and to compete with the rest of the world, specifically china. >> with the first 100 days in the rear view mirror, president biden and other key white house voices will be on the road this week talking about what's next. the administration is vowing it $2.4 trillion agenda will overhaul infrastructure and create jobs. the tour, however, will be a test of how he plans to sell the country on the cost. the impact on the economy, whether bipartisanship on capitol hill is possible, to get it all done. those things all in question. >> let's get over to the white house, and cnn white house reporter, jasmine wright who joins us live. it doesn't look like you're at the white house. it looks like you're in wilmington, delaware, what is on the president's agenda in the week ahead? >> well, boris, and christi, president biden has a jam packed week. he will chrisscross the country to sell his american jobs plan, american families plan to the american people, trying to convince voters that they need this investment in their lives. and the idea is that if he's talking directly to the american people, convincing them, they will in turn turn to their lawmakers and urge them to cut a deal to come to the table. president biden laid out his central argument of why this jobs bill is necessary. take a listen. >> it's going to provide jobs. it will also accommodate jobs. and what this means is that towns and cities that have been in danger of being left out and left behind will be back in the game. we have a huge opportunity here to provide fast, safe, reliable clean transportation in this country. and transit is part of the infrastructure. >> so that was president biden on friday in philadelphia. this week, the travel starts on monday. both he and the first lady will visit yorkstown, virginia, where they will visit schools, no doubt touting the educational component of his plans, and that includes free pre-k, free community college tuition, and on tuesday and wednesday, we will see vice president harris visit wisconsin and rhode island, and then on thursday, we'll see president biden headed to louisiana where he will be making two stops. in that state, there's a democratic governor and two republican senators. now, president biden has been really clear that he wants to find compromise on both sides, right, we know that moderate democrats are kind of skeptical of this plan, and we know that republicans aren't all the way forward. some of them aren't at all. president biden wants to find compromise. he says that he wants republicans to meet him halfway. so he has invited republican senators shelley moore capito to the white house, she offered that counter proposal from republicans, and that meeting could come as soon as this week. christi, boris. >> jasmine wright, we so appreciate it. thank you. so we're seeing more signs of internal strain in the republican party. look at this. >> that is awkward, fellow republicans booing mitt romney as he was introduced at the state's republican party convention. loud boos throughout his remarks, including when he talked about his history of disagreeing with former president trump. listen. >> i don't hide the fact that i wasn't a fan of our last president's character issues, and i'm also no fan -- >> show some respect. >> aren't you embarrassed? >> cnn's daniela diaz is with us now. so a vote to censure senator romney last night failed. we need to point that out. it's still obvious the republican party is dealing with some serious divisions. what do you know this morning, daniela? >> christi, and it's only the latest chapter of infighting in the republican party. on one hand, you have senator mitt romney, those clips that you just played where he was booed at the utah gop convention, he has been a frequent critic of former president donald trump. he also voted to convict trump in his impeachment trial, and republicans are clearly against some of the actions that he's made against the former president. and then on the other hand, you have congresswoman liz cheney who is also a frequent critic of former president donald trump, and blasted her colleagues in the senate for voting or working to overturn the election results on january 6th. and she faced criticism from members of her own party for greeting joe biden at his address to the joint congress this week. you know, she defended her actions greeting current president joe biden at the address saying they are both americans. they're not sworn enemies. she stood by her decision to do that. this is part of an issue in the anterior. house minority leader kevin mccarthy stands by former president donald trump. so does minority whip steve scalise. they believe trump is the leader of the republican party, and there has also been many members of the party who have weighed in on this issue of whether trump is leading this party this week. >> we have come a long way since senator romney was the presidential nominee. it is a different party today. it's much more progressive. >> there is certainly a place for republicans to do well in the midterms but we've got to shed, you know, this fringe element. >> you know, this is part of a problem that has been happening in the republican party since trump left office. you know, you have members of the republican party who believe that trump is still leading the party, still setting the tone for what they want to work on, and then you have members such as cheney who believe her disagreements with the former president are bigger than her. she believes this is a battle for the soul of the republican party. boris, christi. >> daniela diaz reporting from capitol hill, thank you so much. new data shows that significant drop in the number of unaccompanied migrant children in border patrol facilities. at the end of march, there were 5,700 children in the custody of border protection. a month later, that number has dropped to 790. there is progress being made on immigration, but critics on both sides have argued the administration is not doing enough. so joining us now to discuss is amy pope, a senior adviser for migration to the biden administration. we appreciate you joining us. thank you. let's start by playing some sound from the president, his response to whether there is a crisis at the southern border, listen. >> it's way down now. we've now gotten control. for example, we have -- they didn't plan for, which it comes every year, this flow, whether it's 22,000 or 10,000. they didn't have beds that were available. they didn't plan for the overflow. they didn't plan for the depth of health and human services to have places that take the kid from the border patrol and put them in beds where there's security, and people that can take care of them. there's a significant change right now, significant change in the circumstances for children coming to and at the border. >> so biden arguing that the trump administration had not done enough to prepare an influx in migrants, though in his first press conference about a month ago, nothing has changed, it happens every single solitary year. if the president felt the trump administration hadn't taken proper steps to prepare for the influx of migrants that happens. in his words, every single year, why didn't the white house do more to prevent problems we have been seeing at the southern border. >> thank you for asking the question, and thank you for having me. look, this is an issue that has been going on every single year. 2014, 2016, 2019, even despite president trump's really really tough and often draconian policies involving children and their families coming across the border. but, you know, it takes time to rebuild a system that's been destroyed, and that's what we saw in the months from january until now. we had to put bed online as the president discussed, so that children who are coming in to customs and border control facilities could be transferred over to the department of health and human services, and ultimately to sponsors. that's not something you can just turn on within a moment's notice. it takes time to find appropriate facilities. it takes time to find appropriate staff. it takes time to vet sponsors, and make sure they are appropriate care givers for children. and you know, really that's where we are. we started with very very little, and today we're in a moment of time where we can manage the flow of people coming across the border. >> some of the frustration toward the white house from both parties is the perceived lack of a specific coherent concise policy, when it comes to immigration. there's a belief that biden is trying to have it both ways, maintaining some trump policies while ending others, and not fully lifting, for example, the cap on the number of refugees that can enter the country. could you summarize in as few words as possible, the biden plan for us, his approach to immigration. >> sure thing. i mean, first and foremost is to restore fair, orderly, humane immigration processing. that has been held down by the trump administration, and we need to restore it. we need to advance it. second is to advance the root causes: people don't leave home if they don't have a reason to. the president is seeking a fairly significant investment in central america to make sure that people are not compelled to leave their home countries. and then, really, it's to address the very very long standing issue of immigration reform, which has gone untouched, frankly for far too long, and working with congress to pass a system that addresses the question of the many people who have been living and working in the united states for many years. >> yeah, amy, some would argue that it's become politically expedient for both parties to not get anything done on immigration. i want to dig into something you said about addressing the root cau causes of immigration. president biden proposed $4 billion worth of spending to address those issues, a lot of that in the form of financial assistance to specific central american countries, guatemala, honduras, and el salvador to fix corruption and violence and poverty. there are millions of americans who are struggling right now, and were struggling before the pandemic. how would you make the case to them that this spending is necessary if it appears that for years these concerns, despite receiving aid from the united states have not been able to get a grip on these issues? >> i would just ask them to look at what we're otherwise spending at the u.s. border, frankly, it's a far better investment to the american people to invest money and address root causes in a place like guatemala. in some cases it's very straightforward, getting them food aid in the case of significant droughts and in response to two hurricanes that have gone through the country just over the last several months. so, you know, if you're looking at benefits for the dollars that you're investing, the dollar is going to go a lot farther in central america than it does at our border. ultimately what's happening at our border is a symptom of something that's much more significant happening in the region. >> amy, one final question for you, the president has made clear, at least he did on wednesday night, that he wants congress to act. given what i noted before, that for both parties, it appears that this issue has been beneficial for them every two years, every four years when it comes to election time. do you actually believe that immigration reform is something that can feasibly happen, especially when you have so many republicans pushing this as an issue that they believe they can win? >> i do know that there are republicans who have worked with democrats in the past to advance immigration reform. ultimately this should not be a partisan issue. this is an issue that is important to people who have been living and working in the united states. it matters to american businesses to make sure that they have the labor they have. it namatters to the security of our border to make sure that we have appropriate investments in technology and solutions that work. it's an issue that matters across the board, and it's my hope that, and it's president biden's hope that democrats and republicans will find a way forward because frankly it's just gone on for too long that we failed to act, and that's in nobody's interest. >> i lied about that being the last question. i have one more for you. do you have a concern that if something doesn't get done on img immigration, this is going to be a weak point for democrats in 2022. i think it should be a weak point for all members of congress. this is not an issue that's specific to democrats, coming up with a sensible, bipartisan response, solution, is something that is in the interest of the american people. and frankly, i don't think that the republicans can skate by on this one, if they don't take it seriously and become part of the solution. >> amy pope, we appreciate having you this morning. thank you so much for the time. >> thank you. covid cases in the united states are now at the lowest levels they have been in more than six months. up next, we'll tell you what's contributing to that steady decline and the new freedoms it is allowing us. stay with us, we'll be back after a quick break. ♪ ♪ 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back. fans gathered at the 147th running of the kentucky derby at churchill downs. louisville prepared to host up to 50,000 people at one of the first large events since the covid crisis started. the derby, normally draws up to 150,000 people. >> it's not kind of the pandemonium and craziness it always is, but it's nice to feel things coming back with energy, and people smiling. >> the cdc continues advising those attending crowded outdoor events to wear masks even when fully vaccinated and release the list of both indoor and outdoor activities vaccinated people can participate in. covid cases are down almost 28% over the last two weeks according to johns hopkins university. the deaths are at their lowest counts in months. one of the best ways to keep the death rate down is to increase vaccination efforts. >> i think we should do like people did the vaccine selfie, we need to have selfies now of people going to bars and restaurants with other vaccinated people to show what a return to 2019 pre-pandemic life could really look like. >> reporter: however vaccine hesitancy remains a problem. daily vaccinations administered dropped to only 2 p.6 million lt week. >> what i worry about is those people on the fence don't get vaccinated, we don't reach herd immunity come the fall and with the winter because coronaviruses are winter respiratory virus, we have a big resurgence, variants coming in from other countries. >> reporter: the cdc now pushing teens to get their vaccine as the pfizer shot is authorized for teens 16 and up. vaccine makers moderna and johnson & johnson are working to gain emergency authorizations for the use of vaccines in teens 12 and up by this summer. >> this pandemic isn't over until it's over. what we're trying to do is get as much of the population as vaccinated as possible. >> reporter: while things are looking up in the states, india is in crisis. the number of daily cases surpassed 400,000, the highest for any nation during the pandemic. back here in the u.s. with falling cases and a slowed but ongoing vaccination effort throughout the country, the head of the cdc said just last week that this idea that we could potentially see a full reopening of businesses, christi, by july 1st, she said that would be reasonable but warned that we have been tricked by this virus before. we still have not achieved full herd immunity, and as you just heard, there is still that concern that we could see a resurgence come this fall. guys. >> polo sandoval, thank you so much. so the u.s. has hit this milestone when it comes to covid-19 vaccinations. according to the cdc, herd immunity, we still have a long way to go here. we're at 31.2%. we need, according to the cdc, at least 75 to 80% to hit herd immunity. my next guest says guess what, we don't have to wait for herd immunity. she says in part, a strategy of minimizing risk, not eliminating it, can help americans reclaim normalcy. cnn national security analyst and former assistant secretary at the homeland security department, juliette kylan is with us this morning. talk about what you mean by the fact we can minimize the risk but don't necessarily have to eliminate it in full. >> i'm not a doctor, obviously. i work on planning around what the doctors and the smart public health officials are telling us, and i look at the incredible data in no small measure to the biden administration and the rollout of the vaccine, and the reduction in infections and i think the american public is a little bit confused and so what i tried to do is just explain in english, maybe in more security terms, where are we right now? we keep hearing about this term herd immunity, and that we are pretty far away from it. it may be that we don't get to it. the truth is the scientists don't know. the numbers range between 80 and 85% or the w.h.o.'s numbers are lower. israel looks like it hit something pretty good with just about 60% vaccination rate. we're looking at a big range here, and so instead, we just have to look at we're in the stageo of risk minimization. we should push the envelope. we need to let people get out, let the economy run, we need to promote vaccinations and take seriously vaccine hesitancy. look at issues, related to vaccine hesitancy. i'm a big fan of closing some of these big mass vaccination sites and doing the pop up thing and showing up at bars or sports stadiums, which is happening now. and sort of envision a world in which we're just reducing the risk. every shot does it, but we're not -- there's no finish line that we have to wait for, and so that's me in english. i think it was getting very confusing for people, and frustrating because we seem to be waiting for something that might not happen for a while to get our population vaccinated. >> and the science seems to be so fluid, you know, we have had mixed messages through this, that's just the natural part of a pandemic and learning about it. we have to make that point. one of the things you mentioned in the op-ed, is what israel is doing. talk to us about that, and what you think the u.s. can learn from israel. >> there's a lot of frustration with the vaccine hesitancy and the anti-vaxxers, israel had a very aggressive vaccination campaign. it went very intimate. it went to, you know, the pop up sites, the local sites, which is what we're starting to do now. it looks like it got 60%. some complications, it's a small country comparatively. one way to think about the future, instead of being angry that people aren't getting vaccinated and look at punishment, which we often talk about, we should look at a rewards system that benefits people, the unburdened people, i call them, that benefits people that haven't been vaccinated. someone like me, when i used to fly, would get precleared, get my information beforehand, it meant that i could be unburdened. i would just get through that security line, and i think you're starting to see that play out now. you're seeing it in the 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seattle, portland, minneapolis, that's no way to treat the community. that's no way to treat those that put their entire life into building their business. >> well, that's interesting because, you know, we don't want to be killed by police officers. >> reporter: the new law is being challenged in court in florida. for now, the black lives matter alliance says it will focus on educating protesters about the new law. >> it's not going to stop us, no, because we know what our first amendment rights are. >> reporter: and the black lives matter alliance tells me that they plan to reach out to every local law enforcement here in broward county, requesting that they not enforce this new law. boris, christi? >> thank you so much. president biden needs $4 trillion to pay for his infrastructure plan. where's that going to come from? we're talking to a financial expert. stay close. ncy medicine possible at 40,000 feet. instead of burning our past for power, we can harness the energy of the tiny 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the map where they'll be pitching his $4 trillion economic package and sell directly to the american people he hopes his ambitious agenda to greatly transform the role of government. ted, it's good to see you. i know that you were watching the president's speech this week, and as a money guy, i want to know what stuck with you, what did you take away from it first and foremost? >> well, good morning, christi, and good to be with you. mostly i took away this $2 trillion infrastructure plan, christi, because we need jobs. why? look, one out of five people renting, their back rent they owe is $5,600, and when it comes to the unemployment checks, the $300 extra, that's going to end on september 6th. when you look at things in the proposal like $174 billion to make some 500,000 electric vehicle charging stations that's going to create jobs, and maybe only 2% of americans own electric cars right now, but cadillac, they said by 2030 they will no longer make gas cars, it will certainly not be your daddy's caddy, i'll tell you that. >> that was a good one. the glaring question that i feel is always asked is, okay, you've go this plan, how are you going to pay for it. it comes down to taxes quite frankly, doesn't it? >> i mean, it does christi, look, the government doesn't sell cheese burgers. they're going to raise the corporate tax, at 21% right now. it might go as high as 28%. i think it will fall out at 25%. capital gains taxes will go up i believe on people that make a million dollars or more, possibly from 20% to 39.6% f. we have a broke social security system, for people making more than $400,000, you probably will see an additional 2.6% tax in perpetuity, and an overall of inheritance taxes, gift taxes, that will be in part how the president plans to pay for this proposal. >> not just that, we're on our third round of stimulus checks as well we should point out. what evidence do you see that this is or is not working as well as planned? >> i mean, i think it is working right now, christi, as kept millions of americans afloat right now. it's two stories, haves and have notes. real estate at an all time high. $83 billion of credit card debt was paid off last year, christi, that's great, but on the other hand, when the dust settles, minimum wage is at $7.25. people are talking about $15. how about an inflation adjustment. that hasn't happened since 2009. let's get it at least to 10 or $11, and for women, and especially women of color right now, the unemployment numbers are higher than the 6% national average. it's a tale of two stories right now, christi. >> ted jenkin thank you for walking us through it. good to see you. >> good to see you, christi. it's going to be a stormy sunday for millions of people across the south. so how bad is it going to get? stay tuned for your forecast just a couple of minutes away. it grows two times faster than seed alone for full, green grass. everything else just seems... slow. it's lawn season. let's get to the 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