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dallas to begin to accommodate the number of children crossing the u.s./mexico border alone. >> i believe it's a challenge that's being managed. >> i have been governor under three presidents, and this is by far the worst situation we've seen. >> good morning to you, good morning to all of you in atlanta who are waking up and wherever you might happen to be this morning, we're always just grateful to have you with us in the morning on this sunday, march 21st, i'm christi paul. >> i'm boris sanchez in for victor blackwell, great to be with you. >> good to see you, too, boris. second day waking up at this hour, it is something, isn't it. >> i'm getting used to it. >> he's going to have to get used to it, as you know. we want to start with what's happening down south, a state of emergency in miami beach. overnight, police used pepper balls to break up what the mayor called overwhelming crowds. take a look at this. we know at least a dozen people were arrested as police moved to enforce this 8:00 p.m. curfew they have established. >> look, there was violence and vandalism on south beach, people in large crowds acting recklessly, and that kind of careless abandon is adding to fear that we could be heading for another covid spike. yesterday, the united states recording more than 52,000 new coronavirus cases. nationwide, new infections seemed to be holding steady in a sort of plateau. >> right. right. and we do know right now, nearly 80 million americans have had at least one covid-19 shot. more than 43 million are fully vaccinated. >> and dr. anthony fauci says while the u.k. variant likely accounts for up to 30% of the cases we're seeing, the good news is that vaccines do appear to protect against it. >> cnn's evan mcmorris santoro is following the latest on the pandemic. it seems more people are starting to let their guard down. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, this is the challenge christi. we're dealing with a situation where we're seeing vaccine availability, we're seeing states loosen restrictions because of the vaccine availability. loosening doesn't mean getting rid of it, and it really is important that people stay focused on just how serious this pandemic is. another pandemic record breaking air travel day in america on friday. more than 1.4 million people screened by the tsa in u.s. airports. that's a record since this pandemic began. and the 9th straight day of more than a million fliers. so it seems at least some people in america are ready to get back to normal. but the coronavirus is still presenting challenges. spring break declared a state of emergency in miami beach. the mayor announcing a curfew in the south beach entertainment district and a block on incoming traffic on multiple causeways at night. the crowds are just too big he says. >> it feels like a rock concert, wall-to-wall people over blocks and blocks. last night somebody shot a weapon in the air, and there was a riot. other things have happened that are similarly challenging. it feels like a tinder. it feels like just any match could set it off. >> signs all over the country that crowds during this pandemic are still dangerous. in idaho, a legislative session shut down and postponed after an outbreak among lawmakers and staff. undergraduate students at duke university may be coming out of the stay in place order prompted by a surge in cases. indoor dining still banned and students still on travel restrictions. the fear among experts remains the spread of variants across the country. >> i am worried. many of us are worried, and this is something that we have been warning about for the last several months, and i am concerned now 20 to 30% of cases of covid in the united states are this new u.k. variant, and we very much are on track for that to be the dominant strain here in the united states within a couple of weeks. >> new york already dealing with the variant first identified in the u.k. on saturday, the state reported it first case of the variant first seen in brazil. keeping the variants in check requires getting more americans vaccinated fast. on saturday, the cdc announced more than 79 million people in america have received at least one dose. new york, like a lot of states, vowing to expand eligibility for the vaccine soon. experts say americans need to get it as soon as they can. so i'm here outside the javits center, one of the massive vaccine sites in new york city. we're hoping to see big crowds, to keep the variants this check. they're very much here with us and that requires vigilance and diligence about the rules we have gotten used to to keep the virus from spreading. >> you can't let up so close to the end of this thing. evan mcmorris santoro, thank you so much for that report. as millions of americans line up to get vaccinated. pentagon leaders say they are trying to convince a high number of skeptical u.s. service members to get the vaccine. >> oren liebermann has more on the measures the pentagon is taking to convince people the vaccines are safe and effective. >> on the military's newest battlefield. >> you can roll up your sleeve for me, sir. >> success is measured in doses. each needle a precision weapon from pharmaceutical companies instead of defense contractors. >> we have a vaccine. we have a tool. we have a manner in which we can help stop this pandemic in its tracks, but not everybody feels comfortable receiving the vaccination. >> reporter: specialist carol gaudy of the maryland national guard a health care worker herself wasn't sure she would get the vaccine. >> i was hesitant at first because of how quickly they put the vaccine out. there were no studies on the long-term effects of the vaccine. that had me kind of concerned. >> it was concern for her family that brought her around, but that hesitation is not uncommon. >> there were times the thoughts crept in, i could die from getting the vaccine, and maybe i shouldn't get it. i was just talking to medical experts in my organization, reputable people, they put me at ease, and they ultimately helped me turn around my decision. >> reporter: other service members have their fears and concerns over the covid-19 vaccine. one soldier who spoke with cnn on condition of anonymity. my fear is having a dangerous reaction that messes with my body. i understand the virus can do the same thing. the military estimates 2/3 of service members eligible for the vaccine have accepted it but the number may be lower. at fort bragg, an army base with 57,000 military personnel, the acceptance race is just below 50%. in the washington national guard, it's 39% and in the nebraska national guard, it's down to 30%. two military health care sources who spoke with cnn say they are seeing an opt in rate of closer to 50% in the regions they cover, a domestic military base and an overseas command. as you go down the tiers from first responders to general military population, acceptance rate goes down. >> i wanted to speak to you today about the coronavirus. >> reporter: military leaders have held virtual town halls, promoted vaccination safety. >> speaking as a physician, the safety and effectiveness of the approved vaccines is exceptional, and every passing week, the evidence grows stronger. >> on social media, these posts have become havens for misinformation and conspiracy theories. >> i think that is a huge battle. it's almost harder to fight some of these misinformation that come from out of the blue. >> reporter: at the moment, demand is out pacing supply. and defense officials say they expect the acceptance rate to go up, but it will take time. there are two opposing trends here to watch moving forward. as you go down in tiers of vaccination, the most urgent vaccination, health care workers and emergency personnel toward the general population, one of our military health care sources says the refusal rate goes up. on the flip side, as the vaccine is out there longer, it becomes more widespread, and troops see their peers getting it, as well as fears of long-term effects subsiding, officials expect the acceptance rate, the take rate for the vaccine will go up eventually. the issue is this isn't an eventually problem, it's a right now rob. oren liebermann, cnn, at the pentagon. >> orenthan, thank you for the report. the military can't force members to take the vaccine because it only has emergency use authorization. service members are required to get other vaccines, they do have the option of declining this one. let's talk to cnn contributor dr. abdul say ed about this, an epidemiologist and public health expert. so good to see you. i want to ask you about what we saw in oren's piece. the expeditious nature of this vaccine, the uncertainty of, you know, what could be lingering in it for years. and what it could do to your body, they're valid concerns. >> look, we know that vaccine hesitancy has been and will continue to be one of the biggest challenges to feeding this pandemic. the fewer people who take it, the lesser our probability of getting to that level of herd immunity, community immunity that ultimately reduces the spread and ends this pandemic. at the same time, i think oren was entirely right that over time as people are seeing their friends, their loved ones, people that they respect, getting this vaccine, their hesitancy is going to continue to decline. the good news here, though, is that more and more people are seeing that, and were recognizing as the risk of another surge goes up and we're seeing more and more transmission, the demand for getting a vaccine is going up as well. and so hopefully people will catch up, they'll get the vaccines that are available to them. it is key for us when it comes to ending this pandemic. >> i want to show you some picture of what we're seeing out of miami overnight. people clearly breaking the curfew that's been set there. i mean, we haven't seen pictures of crowds like this, i guess, since summer probably, and there have always been questions, when we have seen this many people in close contact like that. i'm wondering when you look at those pictures, would you be as concerned about the spread when you see the spring breakers, if not for the variants. how much do they play a role in your concern when you see pictures like this? >> look, it is entirely about the variants, right, right now, it seems that people have taken a cue from elected officials who are telling us that this pandemic is fully reopening for business, meanwhile, b.1.1.7 and two variants of concerns, both in california and in new york and new jersey, tristate area, are starting to spread, and in florida, b.1.1.7 has really been spreading quickly. it's one of the b.1.1.7 hot zones, and just because the vaccines are on their way, it doesn't mean that they're here. if you look at the demographic of most of the people who are out, they're not the demographic of people who have received their vaccines just yet. and so i think people are taking a false sense of security from the fact that vaccines are on their way, and yet they're not there. they only work when they hit arms. they haven't hit enough arms to really protect us from the spread of the variants, and every day the variants spread, it makes it more and more likely we may see the evolution of immunity that comes from the vaccines. it's a dangerous circumstance. >> let me ask you about the brazilian variant that has showed up now, the first case in new york city that is being reported. most of the doctors we have talked to over the last several months have said this brazilian variant is the one they are most concerned about. do you agree with that, and what is is it specifically about that variant that is of such concern? >> i do agree, and it's the origin story of the variant. this variant emerged in a time called manous, brazil, a place where 76% of people had already had covid-19. this variant slipped the kind of immunity you get after you have gotten the disease. it is not resistant to vaccine immunity, but is resistant among natural immunity. it's advanced when it comes to i its about to slip immunity, it renders the immunity inert, and that is a real concern. the fact that we're seeing it spread in a community way across the united states should be concerning to everybody. >> you said it's resistant to both the vaccine and to people who have already had it? >> no. only to people who have already had it. there's still a level of resistance for people who have had a vaccine but not people who have gotten the virus already. >> just wanted to clarify that. dr. abdul sayed, glad to have you here. the daughter of a spa owner recalls a day she will never forget. >> i was just hoping that it was not my mom, it was not my mom. so i was having this hope that maybe my mom got shot, and somewhere else. >> still ahead, how the family is defending the legitimacy of her business. and more and more migrant children are left unaccompanied. 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invesco qqq. ♪ there were calls for justice and an end to violence against asian americans across the united states. after the deadly shooting rampage in atlanta. six of the victims were women of asian descent. >> investigators haven't characterized the killings as a hate crime but a relative of one of the victims says it was a massacre. cnn's natasha chen reports. >> reporter: boris and christi, the four victims here in atlanta were identified as being of korean descent by the south korean foreign ministry. one of them, a south korean citizen with u.s. permanent residency and the other three believed to be americans of korean descent. up in cherokee county at that spa location, one of the victims was xiaojie tan, i had the opportunity to sit down with her daughter and ex-husband to talk about who tan was and how they found out about her death. tan built the american dream for herself. she came from china, becoming a nail technician in florida, working her way to owning some businesses. first one spa and then a second one. she seemed to be somebody who always worked so hard, sometimes seven days a week, saving money and made quite the impression as a friendly person to her customers and fellow business owners nearby. i want to show you something that her daughter said about the experience of tuesday and what it was like waiting for the news of her mother, and then after you hear from jamie, you'll hear from michael webb, her ex-husband, talking about how fiercely tan defended the legitimacy of her business. >> i was just hoping that it was not my mom, it was not my mom. so i was having this hope that maybe my mom got shot somewhere else, like maybe on the arm, on somewhere that it wouldn't be, like, took her life away. >> she never knows what goes on behind closed doors. she made sure that she trained them, they had meetings every week. they had signage. she didn't allow locks on the doors. she wanted to know where her employees were, who the customers were. she used to tell me a lot of times she would throw customers out because they would come in and think that they could have sex and she said, get out of my business, you know, and she would throw them out. and so, you know, she was -- she was a strong mother hen over that business and the people that worked there. she protected it. >> reporter: i also asked them how they felt about hate crime, hate crime being added to the murder charges, whether that makes a difference to them since that's being debated so heatedly. michael said that he really would like the police and authorities to complete their investigation and have them be the people who decide that. jamie did tell me that she understands where the asian american community is coming from and their fear and anxiety, but again, they would like to let the authorities do their job without making a judgment ahead of time. boris and christi. >> natasha, thank you so much. and be sure to watch cnn tomorrow night. we have an 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louisiana's fifth district but died from covid complications before he was sworn in. house minority leader kevin mccarthy congratulated the congresswoman elect letlow on twitter. her and former president trump helped her beat a field of 11 candidates. cnn predicts troy carter, and karen carter peterson will advance to a runoff on april 24th, filling the seat by democrat rip monchmond who resi in january to join the biden administration. the growing surge of migrants at the border, 5,000 unaccompanied children are currently in customs and border control custody including hundreds detained in just the last few days. the sudden spike is overwhelming resources causing overcrowding and reportedly even unsanitary conditions. democratic senator from connecticut chris murphy tweeting out quote just left the border process facility, hundreds of kids packed into big open rooms. in a corner i fought back tears as a 13-year-old girl sobbed uncontrollably, explaining through a translator how terrified she was having been separated from her grandmother and without her parents. senator murphy was part of a tour led by the homeland security secretary, relying partly on the words of politicians to understand what's happening inside these fac facilities because journalists were not allowed on that tour. joining us this morning to discuss how the biden administration is handling immigration, is white house correspondent and associate editor for politico, anita kumar. thank you so much for joining us and sharing part of your sunday with us. i want to start with this limited press access. no press or cameras were allowed on that tour of the facility that senator murphy was on. alejandro mayorkas says that was for privacy reasons. have you gotten a sense from your sources that this approach may soon change? >> they have been telling us over and over again for weeks now that they would have some more information indicating it might change. so far it hasn't. you are seeing reporters and photo journalists who have been on previous tours for previous presidents having gone in. this is the first time they haven't been allowed in, and that includes during the trump administration. president trump wanted people to see what the conditions were like because he was trying to deter people from coming over. the biden administration is saying it's privacy but also saying there are covid reasons for it. we have heard both of those reasons, and we do knot know whn that will dissipate. >> we're going to continue the conversation about press access with our next guest. i want to pivot because it's notable that senator murphy in later tweets put the onus on the white house to fix the problems at the southern border, though he did blame the previous administration for exacerbating those problems. from what i have seen, he's one of very few prominent democrats to call out the white house. do you expect more will start making their voices heard? >> i do think there will be more as other senators visit the facilities and begin to talk about what's going on and hold hearings. so senator murphy obviously went on this tour. it was a bipartisan tour. as we see some others come out and talk, you know, visit, we'll hear them talk about it, but look, remember, this is something that republicans have indicated is going to be a midterm election issue, 2022. the democrats have to figure out what that message is. so far, there has been bipartisan criticism on the biden administration on what to do about these conditions. we're going to have to figure out what that message is. >> i'm glad you mentioned that specific angle. thursday, the white house, or rather the house passed two immigration bills. one of them provided a pathway to citizenship for dreamers. the other one permitting farm workers and their families to ultimately earn legal status. as we look at these bills and we ponder whether the senate will take them up in a realistic way, what is the incentive for senate republicans to vote on these bills or other immigration bills as they try to regain the majority next year? >> yeah, this is going to be tough. it was always going to be tough. what you're hearing now from republicans on the hill is that they're saying, look, we're not going to take these up until you get the border under control. this is exactly what president biden's allies had worried about. as this border situation has flared up, they were worried that republicans would have no incentive to do this. both for political reasons and other reasons, so that's exactly what we're seeing. we saw lindsey graham telling my colleague on the hill he wouldn't vote for his own bill on this until the border situation was under control. other senators, mitt romney of utah or susan collins of maine have indicated they wouldn't even go for these piecemeal bills until they can see some action on the border. >> tragic for a generation, it's been too politically expedient for either side to agree for an immigration deal because they feel like it's an issue that helps them win elections. thank you so much for your time. and you'll hear directly from homeland security secretary al alejandro mayorkas, he's joining dana bash on state of the union this morning here on cnn. do not miss that. >> and boris, to the conversation you were just having, stock blocking media access is the direct message from an award winning photographer who's trying to capture what's going on at the border. his work includes this emotional photo, i know you're going to remember it. he got up close for this moment this 2-year-old girl just sobbing while her mother was searched and they were both detained in mcallen texas. now, i want to show you some of these photographs from recent days. they're still striking certain certainly. he said they had to be taken with a long lens from the mexican side of the border. i have photographed cbd from bush, obama and trump, and now zero access for media. until now, u.s. journalists haven't needed to stand in another country to photograph what's happening in the united states. his name is john moore. he is with us now. pulitzer prize winning photographer, john, we appreciate the work you do. i mean, you move people with the images that you bring us. and i know that right at this moment, you are comparing what your work is like to having to be quote a paparazzi in your own country. help us understand, what directive did you get from the u.s. government about access. >> well, good morning, christi. the border has really been closed on the american side. the photo journalist, customs and border protection, they have just been a blanket statement, not allowed anyone to come in, and photograph their operations. as you mentioned, this is a great departure from every other previous administration in modern u.s. history. we have always been given access. now, the main reason they're saying is because of covid restrictions. i think by now, we know how this disease is transmitted. we've seen large congressional delegations come together, travel in vehicles, wear masks, see facilities. i think probably cbp could handle a single photo journalist or a team of journalists together and still be able to have protection for their agents. especially considering those agents are around so many immigrants, many of whom are already sick. and so yes, i'm having to stand oftentimes across the border in mexico to photograph with a long lens on what's happening on the u.s. side, and typically that's not the way i like to work. i want to be up close. i want to see what's happening. i think it's possible to give immigrants respect and show them with dignity and not interfere with cbp operations and tell the story in ways we always have before. >> to your point about the delegations, i want to read something, another tweet from senator chris murphy who also, again, as boris had cited had been one of these delegations that had taken a tour of the facilities. i think press should have some access, yes, but not unfettered. enough for accurate reporting on conditions, which are challenging but improving, but not so much to disrupt the already tumultuous lives of these children. so you touched on it a minute ago, but when you've got delegations of congressmen and women, you know, lawmakers who are going down to the border to take a tour, particularly of the el paso processing center, is being a paragrapher, help us understand the difference between that and being a photographer and disrupting these children who already clearly are in situations that are -- make them emotionally fragile. >> well, i think senator murphy was speaking specifically on the detention facilities and photo journalists generally have not had as much access to detention centers as we have to the field operations. usually when i'm photographing with the border patrol, or air marine, which flies over and supports border patrol on the ground, usually i'm photographing sometimes from a distance, sometimes up close, but typically we're allowed to take pictures of people when they're being detained. and that's very different than once they're in a facility itself, in which case they're given much more privacy, once they're in detention, and so there's also ways to photograph children in detention so their faces are not shown, and of course we want to be respectful. i usually talk to immigrants briefly before i photograph them. i try to get some of their sorry, and bring them into the process of the coverage that i'm doing. so that they know that i'm not just there snapping pictures. i'm actually there trying to tell their story, and people want their stories to be told. >> john, your work is extraordinary, and because of that, i want to go back to the picture that captured so much attention in 2018, that little girl, again, standing by her mother. i think that there's an innate human condition in all of us to want to make things better for these children we see. i mean, i know for myself and i think for other parents, we just kind of want to rush into that picture and hold her and tell her it's going to be okay. the thing that's unique for you is you're right there. you are seeing these moments as they happen. do you have to fight that urge. we know that you can't reach out, but do you have to fight the urge to do so and give an encouraging word? that's got to be hard? >> it's certainly very difficult. in the case of that photograph, it happened very quickly. it was at the end of the day. i had been able to speak to the mother, briefly, yes, as a father myself, i wanted to reach out and hold her. but, you know, my role is to document. she was not in danger at that time. but showing what it was like for people to go into these zero tolerance system at the time of the trump administration was really my mission there. and sometimes you have to bear down and think about your work and the importance of what you do in that moment, and, you know, i was glad to see that she and her mother were able to go into the asylum system where they could ask for asylum through the courts and proceed as they had wanted when they came up. for many immigrants right now, they are being turned away at the border because of covid restrictions. it's called title 42. where many people are being turned away and deported almost immediately. the situation is fluid on the ground. there's people coming into the country, people being sent out. it's a complicated situation. and anyone who tries to simplify it is doing a disservice to the story. >> john moore, you are doing important work. we appreciate you taking tyime o talk to us. best of luck to you, we'll continue to watch what you produce. it's breathtaking at the end of the day, many reasons. john, thank you, and for more, check out his book, undocumented immigration, and the militarization of the u.s./mexico border. we'll be right back. that's why at america's beverage 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