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it's a big change from our former president. >> ultimately, this is about who we are as a nation. this is about how we treat people. >> the cdc updating guidelines for schools just three feet of space between students down from six. >> these recommendations are specific to students in classrooms with universal mask wearing. this is the first time we're hearing from a woman who has allegations against the governor who is still working in the cuomo administration. >> the governor has lost the confidence of his governing partners and many new yorkers. he should step down. and a light on in atlanta, after the visit, of course, of the president and vice president yesterday. 6:01 is the time. we're so grateful to have your company as always. it's saturday, march 20th. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm boris sanchez in for victor blackwell. i'm here in d.c. always great to join you early, christi. >> just wait, he's going to be joining us on a regular basis. thank you, boris. let's get into what we're talk about with another moment of reckoning in america that we're seeing. there's so many eyes open and the fear and frustration felt by asian americans as we learn more about the victims of tuesday's mass shooting in the atlanta area. >> yeah, their loved ones are sharing details this morning so their stories likely don't get lost. the owner of young asian massage was remembered as young and selfish. delaina yaun, the mother of two kids including annal-year-old daughter. and this woman excited to be working at a spa because of the pandemic. and yon chicago grant leaves behind two children. >> in all, eight lives lost. you see their names here. six were asian women. cnn's ryan young is in atlanta. he has the latest on the investigation and the call for law enforcement to classify the attacks as a hate crime. >> reporter: the investigators are actively working together to piece together the exact movements of the suspect who had a two-day attack on them. robert aaron long from cherokee county. he faces 11 felony charges, one count of criminal intent to murder. one attempt of aggravated assault with intent to rape and rob. and for victims of milo gonzalez who lost his wife during the shooting the charges do little to fill their hearts. >> reporter: the medical examiner is revealing the names of the our four victims gunned down. park, grant, kim and yu, police say at least three of the victims were shot in the head and looking for the motives. >> it's important to let you know that we are not done. we're still working very diligently to ascertain all of the facts so that we can have a successful prosecution. because that's what's most important now. >> reporter: crab apple baptist church released a statement. no blame can be placed upon the victims. these actions are of a simple heart and depraved mind for which aaron is completely responsible. there are growing calls in this community and country to protect the memories of the women involved. >> to target three asian businesses and to kill six women who look like me, could be me, could be my mom, could be my sister, could be my aunt to not call it a hate crime is dehumanizing. >> to say it's unclear what the motivations were it's -- it's silencing. it's taking away our story. >> we keep trying to scapegoat one person and fail to see this is actually part of a larger issue. this was incredibly predictable. it has built up over the course of many years. >> reporter: there's a growing asian community here outside of atlanta. and a lot of the people we talked to in the last few days tell us they are tired of the abuse and they want more stories about what's happening in the community. they hope this turns a light on the challenges they face. reporting in atlanta, ryan young, cnn. >> ryan young, thank you for that. president joe biden is condemning the skyrocketing hate crimes against asian americans noting the uptick in anti-asian violence since the pandemic began. >> cnn's jasmine wright is with us right now. jasmine, always great to see you this morning. the president has taken on several roles in his presidency. kind of the consoler in chief i guess is what you'd call it. talk to us about what he said to the folks in atlanta. >> reporter: well, christi, you really saw president biden trying to use his remarks to reflect the moment of violence against asian americans. and these were really his strongest remarks yet. >> too many asian americans in m are walking up and down the streets and worrying, waking up each morning worrying, in the past year, fearing the safety and safety of loved ones are at stake. they've been attacked, verbally assaulted, physically assaulted and killed. documented incidents of hate against asian americans have seen a skyrocketing spike over the last year, let alone the ones that happened and never get reported. >> reporter: now, he stopped short of calling it a hate crime as federal authorities haven't designated as such. as we heard from ryan, right, these folks in the aa/pi community want to see those. and those remarks aren't going as far. as for vice president harris, the first vice president of south asian descent, we heard from her, really using the history of america to track the rise that we are seeing right now. >> racism is real in america. and it has always been. xenophobia is real in america and always has been. sexism, too. >> reporter: now, vice president harris has been vocal about the experiences with racism that she has faced as a woman of color in this country. now, before they gave these remarks they met with aa/pi community leaders down in georgia, and one attendee told cnn that biden spoke about former president trump's contribution to the flash point that we're seeing. and biden saying that his administration is trying to roll the flash point that we're at right now, roll it back. but the question is, christi, what exactly comes next. white house officials have told us that listening sessions with the aa/pi community are ongoing. and we know that president biden has called for the passage of the covid-19 hate crime act that would speed up federal authorities responding to these hate crimes. >> jasmine wright, we appreciate it so much. thank you. cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson with us now. joey, it's always good to have your perspective and insight here. i want to go over real quickly just so we're on the same page what georgia's hate crime law actually says, it just went into effect less than a year ago, in june, when governor kemp signed it and it was on ahmaud arbery after he was killed in south georgia. they are judges as we know it to impose sentences to increase punishment to target victims on race, color, national origin, sexual orientation, gender and mental or physical disability. based on that, joey, does that fall under that? >> christi, certainly in part because it occurred in georgia but to be mindful there could be a dual prosecution. what do i mean? i mean, it's very good that georgia has a law in place that you just indicated that covers so many things. when you look at that, you can check at least two boxes. clearly these were women, and by and large and women or men and then that falls into that statute. and of course, you get the issue of the victims being asian, it checks another box. so, therefore, based upon that approach, you can go after this particular person who did this, just insane, unfortunate and despicable act -- i think you can go after them in georgia on two counts, right? as it relates to asian, them being asian, as it relates to them being women. but i think we also have to be mindful of a federal statute and as a result of that go after this person under federal authorities, under federal laws as well. i think accountability and justice is important particularly for our asian community in particular for keeping this from occurring again and for calling it for what it is. >> the suspect said it wasn't a hate crime, it was a sex addiction. and the plante police department has not characterized it as jasmine says, has not designated it as a hate crime as of yet. i guess it comes down to what we know about the legal system. the prosecutors have a task of trying to get into somebody's head. how difficult is that to do, joey? and what parameters will they try to search to try to prove their case? >> so any prosecution to be clear, christi, presents challenges, right? whenever you're going on someone if you're a prosecutor, you're looking at the mental states right? the mental state generally is designed to show how a person acted. usually when we're having a discussion about the crime we're talking did they act with intent. negligently, and with respect to actions as a suspect. then, of course, you look not only at the mental state but the specific engagement. when you're talking about hate crime issues you're talking about adding another element to what motivated that intent. what motivated the action that's took place. with regard to the evidence, you look at a number of things. number one, the act. the fact is you have something called circumstantial evidence. circumstantial evidence is evidence. evidence of the circumstance. it's evidence of the content. it's evidence of how did you engage in the act. who did you engage in the act with or two who are the victims or what was in the mind. they'll look at the act itself. he'll look at his past history. he'll look at his statements that he made. he'll look at social media blueprint and speak to other witnesses. and by and large as he's already confessed to as it relates to sex addiction, that follows into the gender. and now we have to get, he's stereotyping asian women. as a result of that, i think it falls into that. look, police have a job to do, they'll continue to investigate. i get that. prosecutors will piece together every bit of information. yes, there are challenges, christi, but there's also a strong will here to get justice. and i think that will happen. and i think, certainly, at the end of the day you'll see hate crime enhancements and you'll see him held accountable with regards to his actions and peoples' lives he's affected forever more. >> joey jackson your expertise is valued here. thank you so much. >> thank you, christi. be sure to watch monday night there's an exclusive in-depth discussion about the fear in america communities of color. the cdc is out with guidelines for children saying they no longer have to be distanced six feet apart, but could the changes get all kids back to school safely? also, there are new allegations of harassment against new york governor andrew cuomo, why the latest accusations stand out. and one of these things is not like the other. the ncaa apologizing after pictures of the basketball training room reveals a stark contrast with the men's. >> the ncaa came out with a statement saying it wasn't money, it was space that was a problem. 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>> well, i think it is safe, as long as everybody is wearing masks. they talk about older kids, middle schools and high schools if there's significant transmission they should maintain the six-foot distancing. we've always said, teachers unions have said, doctors have said, we should follow the science. nothing is air tight. nothing is settled science, really, in any medicine or public health there's no settled science in this. the available evidence from the studies they cited would tell us that the relaxation is appropriate. >> now, kids are still going to be able to take off their masks for lunch or for other activities. i think of my nieces and nephews, they're young and rambunctious. i don't know that they would be keeping a mask on all of the time. they're typically mingling with their classmates. is it realistic to have students wearing masks all the time? >> i think it's the expectation understanding that nothing could be 100%. the reality is, the vast majority of cases that pop up in schools, it's true here in our district, the kids are getting this from outside of school. it's so much of what they're doing at home, what they're parents are doing, what their guardians are doing. that is part of the messages that people need to do across the country so that they're not bringing it in the schools. we just haven't seen the spread within schools that people feared. >> yeah, that's a very important point. i want to look at the big picture now. nationwide, cases have dropped significantly, but they do seem to have plateaued. i think they have a graphic to share with you, how concerned are we with the trends hitting that plateau. here in michigan, we've had a 50% increase, the number of positives. in west michigan where i practice, our system is nearly 20% positive rate. we're at 20% back in november, we're down 3% a month or so ago. it's happening. we have more cases. we know there are more variants and that's probably driving some of it. what we've seen in the past two spikes after the wave, then we have hospitalizations and the deaths unfortunately follow. we just don't know with vaccines rolling out, significant numbers, two-thirds of people in michigan that are vaccinated over 65, we don't know what's going to happen in the next phase. i don't want to find out i wish continue could distance and wear a mask and do things that are simple and drive down the case numbers while we're getting vaccines. >> important numbers i know we've been pushing. dr. rob davidson, thank you for your time. we appreciate it. >> thanks, boris. >> new allegations of sexual harassment against new york govern andrew cuomo why the latest accuser is different than the other women who have already come forward. and you will want to tune in for this, lincoln, divided we stand continues tomorrow night right here on cnn at 10:00 p.m. in this all you episode, tragedy strikes the country, just as the civil war comes to an end as president lincoln is assassinated. 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"the new york times" has identified this victim as alissa mcgraff, and saying she was a number of aides called upon to assist the governor either in his mansion or his office. as part of that, they say there was one incident where mcgraff was in the office of governor cuomo to him alluding to she had a nice neck class. mcgraff telling "the new york times" she thought it was a ploy for him to look down her shirt. this goes along with what others have said. dealings with the governor that had inappropriate behavior, at times, inappropriate touching. and the lawyers for governor cuomo, i just want to read you their statement what they released last night to the "times." the governor has greeted men and women on the cheek, forehand or hand. yes, he has posed for photographs with his arm around them. yes, he uses italian phrases like ciao bella. none of this is remarkable, although it may be old-fashioned. he has made clear that he has never made inappropriate advances or inappropriately touched anyone. again, what a lot of these accusers say they've had inappropriate encounters and for mismcgraff, she alleges there are incident where is he would call her beautiful in italian. and make reference to her marital status because she was in the process of getting divorced. >> mark morales reporting from albany, thank you for that. to discuss the governor's mounting challenges, let's bring in cnn commentator errol louis, the political director for podcast and news. errol, before we get into the politics of the situation, let's talk about the legal pressure that cuomo is facing with the fbi, looking into the nursing home data. what kind of consequences could he face? >> well, it's very serious, what the justice department is looking into what you're talking about is potentially a federal crime. if they determine or decide that the state has been dishonest in providing data on this very important matter, in the middle of a pandemic, there could just be -- there would be consequences to say the least. what the cuomo administration has said pretty consistently is that they wanted to wait. they wanted to make sure that the data was correct and accurate. that's what caused the delay. they also had said, by the way, it's an important point, boris, this was a malicious inquiry that the trump justice department began asking questions and they were doing it for political reasons which is of course entirely possible. if everything is as the administration says, then the cuomo administration will provide the data. the justice department will look through it. and that will be the end of the inquiry. we still don't know what the outcome of all of this is going to be. >> and he's facing a lot of issues, multiple fronts for governor cuomo. there are mounting calls to resign including from the new york senators, the majority of delegation, some of them calling for patience, due process. the governor understandably sticking by them. former congressman charles randle appeared with the governor. he said, quote, you go to your family and you go to your friends because you know they are going to be with you. if he is leaning on black leaders now, then he has been leaning for a long damn time. you wrote about this dynamic the new york daily news in a column about cuomo leaning on black leaders. what do you make of this? >> yeah. well, look, the reality is there's more support for governor cuomo among black democrats in new york than almost anywhere else. charlie rangel, the former c congressman is one of the people who has had a long alliance with governor cuomo. he's one who has. heap in mind, the congressman has been out of office four years. the present congresswoman has called for him to step down. there's a great number of black political leaders, very powerful ones, including the majority leader of the state senate who have called for cuomo to step down. it's kind of a mixed bag if you have to say i have black support. when you look at the polling in the last few days, it shows a dire picture politically for the governor. tell shows that 66% of registered new york voters do not want him to run for a fourth term. it shows 48% disapprove of his job performance. that's the lowest number he's had. or highest disapproval number he's had since taking office in 2011. so, he's got a number of problems that he's trying to work through all at the same time, boris. >> i thought that was interesting. you write about cuomo announcing new york state would provide for the new facility in harlem. that would draw a lot of politics trying to edge in for a photo op. only one prominent leader showed up. that tells you everything you need to know. doesn't it? >> oh, it certainly does. the politics have that walked away from governor cuomo, it's remarkable. even those saying let's wait for the investigation to be complete. they're not appearing with him. they're not speaking up for him. they're not even providing what you could call character witness statements saying i don't know whether this is true, but i think the governor is a good guy. people are staying away. here again, you go back to the polls, the public says they don't want him to step down. but they're also saying, this is a remarkable number. 58 in this latest quinnipiac poll say he is not honest and trustworthy. it's very hard to govern when your partners in government, the general voting public are all saying we think it's time for you to wind down your political career. that's in effect what you're saying. it puts the governor in a very, very difficult position. of course, we've heard from them over and over again, he's not going to resign. >> yeah. especially in the middle of a pandemic when you have very serious questions about your administration's handling of the data during that pandemic. errol louis, we have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much, sir. >> thanks. so president biden has had a lot to say about vladimir putin as of late. why he is not apologizing for calling the russian leader, quote, a killer. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ comfort in the extreme. ♪ the lincoln family of luxury suvs. ♪ with visible, you get unlimited data for as little as $25 a month. but when you bring a friend, you get a month for $5. so i'm bringing everyone within 12 degrees of me. bam, 12 months of $5 wireless. visible. wireless that gets better with friends. - in business, customer support is mission critical. with grammarly business, you can turn your frontline reps into bottom line superheros. take carl, for example. carl's got a superpower, spot on customer support. grammarly business helped him set the right tone increasing our customer satisfaction by 17%. - [children] hurray! - which leads to happier customers, and stronger relationships. learn more at grammarly.com/business. people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up and stto what's possibleps. with rybelsus®. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ ♪ my only sunshine... ♪ rybelsus® works differently than any other diabetes pill to lower blood sugar in all 3 of these ways... increases insulin... decreases sugar... and slows food. the majority of people taking rybelsus® lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7. people taking rybelsus® lost up to 8 pounds. rybelsus® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop rybelsus® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. taking rybelsus® with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases low blood sugar risk. side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration which may worsen kidney problems. wake up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ please don't take my sunshine away ♪ you may pay as little as $10 per prescription. ask your healthcare provider about rybelsus® today. want to make a name for yourself in gaming? 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>> uh-huh, i do. >> reporter: in just a few words, president biden signaled his intolerance of russia's leader. and over vladimir putin the willingness to call out the kremlin strong man. he looks relaxed, marking the seventh anniversary of russia's annexation of crimea. but putin is clearly furious, facing the promise of yet more painful u.s. sanctions in the weeks ahead. he's re-calling russia's ambassador from washington. for consultations. the first time that's happened in decades. and issuing a snide response to the killer insult. i wish him well and good health, i mean that without any joking or irony, putin said by video conference. like someone casting a veiled threat. but it looks more like a wink to rampant speculation on russian-state tv alleging biden mental health due to old age. maybe he just forgot to take his pills one state anchor jokes about the biden remarks. it's age-related dementia said another, a triumph for political insanity. putin also trolled biden by citing an old russian children's joke to deflect the killer tag. you are what you call others, he says, it takes one to know one, in other words. the playground retort that comes up the worst diplomatic spat between these nuclear rivals in years. it was a falling out, waiting to happen, when biden first met putin as u.s. vice president in 2011, he says he told him he didn't think he had a soul he warned the russian leader not to run for another kremlin term. ten years on with fewer than 100 days in office, president biden has toughened his russia stance even more. matthew chance, cnn, moscow. >> matthew chance, thanks for that. the first round of the ncaa tournament isn't even over. and my bracket is already in the trash. some top seeds going home. andy scholes is live from minneapolis, next. a landscaper. a hunter. because you didn't settle for ordinary. same goes for your equipment. versatile, powerful, durable kubota equipment. more goes into it. so you get more out of it. as a repairman, i hear a lot of folks say they feel like they have to rinse off dirty dishes like these before loading them in the dish washer. but new cascade platinum changes all that. new cascade platinum, with 50% more cleaning power! it dissolves fast to start cleaning sooner, releasing the soaking power of dawn. then cascade's food-seeking enzymes latch on and break down food into particles so small they can flow right down the drain. and it's powerful enough for the quick-wash cycle! new cascade platinum with 50% more cleaning power! the #1 brand just got better! you're strong. you power through chronic migraine - 15 or more headache days a month, ...each lasting 4 hours or more. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. so, if you haven't tried botox® for your chronic migraine, ...check with your doctor if botox® is right for you, and if samples are available. effects of botox® may spread hours to weeks after injection ...causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, ...speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness... ...can be signs of a life-threatening condition. side effects may include allergic reactions... ...neck and injection site pain... ...fatigue, and headache. don't receive botox® if there's a skin infection. tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions... ...and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. 95% of patients may pay as little as zero dollars for botox®. so, text to see how you can save. botox® has been preventing headaches and migraines before they even start for 10 years. so, ask your doctor about botox® today. march madness. it is madness. that's all i have to say. >> yeah. unfortunately, one of ohio's premier teams, the ohio state buckeyes bounced yesterday. an unexpected upset. andy shomcholes is in indianapo, following all of the bracket busting. andy, how is your bracket? >> mine's just fine. unless you had ohio state in the final four, you'll be okay. sorry, christi. this year's tournament is so different. all 64 teams are staying in indianapolis. you see buses everywhere. just not a lot of people. from being at the games and people watching it on tv, you can tell this is going to be a different kind of tournament. already day one, reminding us why we love march madness so much. the drama, the upset. and we had a big one yesterday. 15-seed oral rel roberts coming hot. max abmas scoring 29 points. and kevin owe banner dropping 30. oral roberts, the ninth 15th seed winning in overtime. the school's first tournament win since 1974. the upset to oregon, 13th seed north texas taking on purdue. the boiler makers trailing. and this is overtime. that's when the main hammond takes over. north texas gets their first ever tournament win, 78-69, knocking out purdue, the only indiana team in the tournament. i love the fact, the big dance, sister jean getting to go to her first ramblers game. loyola outranking georgia tech. ramblers won 71-60. loyola is going to need extra prayers from sister jean if they're playing a one-seed illinois tomorrow in the second round. all right. in the meantime, the ncaa is apologizing to the team at the women's tournament after twitter pictures and videos on tiktok showed the vast discrepancy between the weight rooms here in indy for the men, compared to what the women have in san antonio. officials saying they fell short and are trying to fix it as quickly as possible. several companies have stepped in offering weight room equipment. oregon forward donna prince went viral for calling out the ncaa. she told don lemon she was shocked after seeing the responses on social media. >> all in all, we're seeing on social media seeing what the men are getting, we're sitting in the hotel eating kind of crummy food. and this is a change that we need, to make it better for us is something that would make it better for all of the student athletes here. not just me, every team. >> christi and boris, here's hoping the sncaa can quickly mae a change for the women in san antonio. >> you have to wonder in this situation, what were they thinking and maybe the answer is they weren't. andy scholes, thank you for the update. hey, don't go anywhere. 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