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that is taking it seriously, dealing with it on all fronts and is not distracted by peddling denial. but you do get that's not the whole story, right? you understand that the vaccine is not a cure-all. it won't get us out of the pandemic, not any time soon. there are so many out there. i hear you on the radio, i see you on social media. i get you in your responses to the show. hey, vaccine, biden is doing a good job. take the win. why do you keep saying the situation is so dire? because it is. vaccine, biden, not enough. he's not trump. he is not going to tell you he is one move away and only he can fix. too many americans insist on falling short. so, yeah, the vaccine is a step forward, but we're taking a step and a half back. here is the proof. after weeks of steep decline, infections are rising again by more than 10% in 14 states this week compared to last. more states are reopening. now is that good or bad? look, i believe it's how you do it and how you handle it on an individual basis. the opportunity is going to be there. what do you do with it? there will be more risk if you don't fly, dine, or work the right way. i'm not telling you not to do any of those things. i'm not your daddy. but you have to do them the right way. and you know what the right way. the more masks, the fewer people in a place, the more distance, the more reasonable, the less cases. period. always true everywhere. but here's why we can't get to a better place as fast as we want to. we're not in it together. there is political advantage in keeping us sick, especially now. politicians are harnessing your frustration and fatigue, which are totally real and justified to create feelings of opposition to the obvious. forget masks. forget it. we've done it long enough. i don't even know the science is right. i think we're good. people like this guy, senator rand paul. he is a doctor. he is an eye doctor. he doesn't know anything about epidemiology. he is not a disease doctor. but he was in denial about covid even after he got it. he won't even wear masks to protect other people. and now he decided to take on dr. fauci with his feelings about the facts. >> you're telling everybody to wear a mask, whether they've had an infection or a vaccine. what i'm saying is they have immunity, and everybody agrees they have immunity, what studies do you have that people that have had the vaccine or had the infection are spreading the infection? if we're not spreading the infection, isn't it just theater? >> no, it's not. >> you have the vaccine and you're wearing two mask, isn't that theater? >> here we go again with the theater. let's get down to the facts. okay. the studies that you quote from seti look at invitro of immunity, which in their paper they specifically say this does not necessarily pertain to the actual protection. it's invitro. when you talk about reinfection and you don't keep in the concept of variants, that's an entirely different ball game. that's a good reason for a mask. >> what proof is there that there is significant reinfection was hospitalizations and death from the variants? none in our country, zero. >> well, because we don't have a prevalent of a variant yet. we're having one -- can i finish -- more dominant. >> policy based on conjecture. >> no. it isn't based on conjecture. >> you want people to wear a mask for another couple years. >> no. >> you've been vaccinated and you parade around in two masks for show. no. >> you can't get it again. there is virtually zero percent chance you're going get it, and you're telling people that have had the vaccine who have immunity, you're defying everything we know about immunity by telling people to wear masks. >> let me state for the record masks are not theater. masks are protective. >> immunity, if you have immunity, you're wearing a mask to give comfort to others, i totally disagree with you. >> joining us now, the better mind involved in that mask-off, the president's chief medical adviser himself, dr. tony fauci. doc, good to see you. >> good to be with you, chris. >> now i know rand paul is a doctor, but he is an eye doctor. but at the same time, do you think he believes what he was saying to you today, that with vaccines, there is zero percent chance that you need to wear a mask, zero percent chance that you get sick, that if you've had it already, there is zero percent chance that you need any mask or anything like that? do you think he believes it? >> you know, chris, i don't know what he believes to be honest with you. i've been dealing -- this is not the first time that we've clashed at a senate hearing. you know, there is always as is always the case a kernel of truth in what he says about there is protection to some extent after you get infected. there is no doubt about that. he completely does not take into account the variants. he quotes literature which is selective in how he quotes it. there is a paper that came out literally yesterday in lancet that showed that yes there was considerable protection against reinfection in general, but in people who are elderly, 65 years of age or older, they were very vulnerable to reinfection. and that's the reason why. so i'm afraid if people hear what he says and believe it, and you have an elderly person who has been infected and they decide, well, rand paul says let's not wear a mask, they could get reinfected again and get into trouble. so that's the thing that bothers me about that type of an interchange. >> you and i have talked about this a lot. you're in the medicine business. you're in the science business. but you're also in the messaging business. and he is making a play. and the play is you guys have been too severe for too long. you're holding us back. and it's not on the basis of just science. it's playing it safe with the science. you're being too conservative. is there any truth to that? >> you know, like i said, there is always a bit of a kernel of truth in what people like senator paul says. the kernel of truth is that people are tired of the constraints that you have, the types of things that we as scientists recommend. we're not saying doing this indefinitely. we're not saying this is the way it's going to have to be all the time. we're saying that if you look at the data and look at the science, there is a chance that you could get in trouble if you pull back too prematurely. that's what we're saying. we're not saying that it is not difficult to maintain public health measures when you're doing it for so long. on that, we agree. but fact is you know when you look, chris, historically at pulling back on mitigation, we look at the different surges that we had, it was always at a time when the cases came down, then they plateaued, and then they started going up again. >> right. >> we're generally about three or four weeks behind europe in the dynamics of the outbreak. it's been that way from the very beginning. and what we're seeing in europe right now the same thing. they reached apeak. they started to come down. they plateaued. they pulled back on all of their public health measures in many countries, and now they have rae surge generals. we want the avoid that. we've seen it before. we've been to that movie before. we want to say void that. >> here is the counter argument. not all surges are the same-sex marriages and we-- and we're no europe. less likely to have asymptomatic infection and less likely to transmit. so people are reading that as vaccine means -- >> that's true. >> vaccine means you're basically safe. europe doesn't have access to the vaccine. they don't have the kind of mask appliance that we've worked up to now, even though it's hooly imperfect. when you combine the advantages we have that they don't, and the fact that we have a lot more vaccinated people now, and more people wearing mask, though not enough, that this surge won't be as bad as past surges and we won't be europe. your response. >> that's quite -- chris, you make a good point. it's absolutely conceivable that that will be the case. and that's the reason why we go by the data as we know it. when we did the first vaccine trial, the primary end point was not whether you got infected or not. the primary end point was whether you had clinically recognizable disease. now in the data that was collected, the more data we get, the more we see that if you are vaccinated, the chances are that you won't get an asymptomatic infection. or if you do, the level of virus in your nasopharynx will be considerably less than it is likely you won't infect anybody. now, when you accumulate enough data to say wait a minute, the scientific data tells us now that we can be pretty confident that if you're vakccinated, tha not only would you not get clinical disease, you would not get infected. we're not there yet. >> right. >> we're accumulating data, and once we're there, then the recommendations will change. >> we keep talking about europe. why don't we talk about michigan. cases are up 82% in the last two weeks. 13 days ago they eased restrictions. even with the case jump, restaurants, bars, theaters, gyms and more adjusted for population. they have the most confirmed cases of the uk variant. and look, again, i'm calling it the uk variant because that's where we believe the origin. i'm not blaming the uk for it, okay? this is a very different play that trump made by calling something the china virus. they're in the middle of the pack in terms of vaccine efficacy. why are they behaving that way? what is your message about michigan? are we all going to be michigan and is michigan acting the right way? >> no. in fairness to them, you have to say it's understandable that they have that feeling they just are tired of being kept down, of not being able to do the things that are normal in life. it's an understandable feeling. and we counter by saying we understand that. we really do. but just hang on a little longer until you get the overwhelming proportion of the population vaccinated. >> but are you telling them -- just to be clear with what you're saying, doc, you saying to governor witmer there and obviously their public health apparatus, you got to slow down on the reopenings? is this something the federal government is intercoursing them with? because they're obviously going in a different direction. >> yeah. i mean, she is a really good governor. i think she has done some really good things. but i am telling them just hold off for a bit. when you get the overwhelming majority of your population vaccinated, the chances of being a surge are minuscule. so just hang in there. don't turn the switch on and off. pull back gradually, not all at once, everything, all things are off and everything goes. that's not a good idea. . there are god signs that things are starting to go away. families are starting to get reunited again. people are doing it the right way. mask culture is spreading. so it allows me a little bit of leeway to ask something a little lighter. did you know that on social media people are referring to the vaccine as the fauci ouchie. did you know that? did you have anything to do with that? >> someone -- >> was that your idea? >> i did not. chris, i can tell you, it was not my idea. >> can you prove it was not your idea? >> under oath. >> are you okay with it being called the fauci ouchie? >> well, if it makes people more tendency to get vaccinated, you can call it fauci ouchie any time you want. just go get vaccinated. >> i have never -- i've never had that picture of you. i've never had coming to mind when i think of you pain. but as long as it's protection, i guess it's okay. whatever gets people the take a step in the right direction. i want to put a smile on your face because otherwise we're crying all the time under these circumstances. dr. fauci, thank you for keeping it straight. thank you for fighting the good fight. the messaging matters. be well, doc. >> thanks a lot, chris. appreciate it. thanks for having me. so from a disease not of our own making to a disease of our own making, hate. you want to know why asian americans are under threat? 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they show passion. they show purpose. they show potentially range as in up close. and they almost scream of animus. of right now, we only know the names of four of the victims. authorities say they're still trying to notify the families of the other four women before releasing any information. the other victims may have been as old as 75. now, police say they're still working to determine the shooter's motivations. but let's be very clear. what he says about what was going on in his head, in his heart, why he did it, that is not dispositive about his motivation. he certainly doesn't have a very high credibility index, right? this evening people rallied together for a vigil and a call for action to stop asian hate. the reason they did that is it's hard to divorce this crime on several levels from race, specifically anti-asian animus. and i know that the shooter has given an early indication that it wasn't about that, that is uncompelling. the message is a stunning contrast from what we heard from one republican lawmaker today, at all places, a hearing on anti-asian hate. i need you to listen to gop congressman chip roy and the democratic congresswoman grace meng, who fired back. >> there's old sayings in texas about find all the rope in texas and get a tall oak tree. i'm not going to be ashamed of saying i oppose the chi-coms, i oppose the chinese communist party. when we're saying things like that and we're talking about that, we shouldn't be worried about having a committee of members of congress policing our rhetoric. >> your president and your party and your colleagues can talk about issues with any other country that you want. but you don't have to do it by putting a bullseye on the back of asian-americans across this country, on our grandparents, on our kids. this hearing was to address the hurt and pain of our community, to find solutions. we will not let you take our voice away from us. >> georgia state representative bee nguyen joins us now. good to see you, bee. >> thanks for having me on. >> you wanted to serve, you wanted to be involved on the issues that matter. who could have imagined they would have affected you and who you come from and what you're about as much as they are right now? help people understand why grace meng was so hurt to hear chip roy making this about him and how he feels he's being hemmed in by this discussion of racial animus specifically towards asians. >> well, you know, i think it's important to talk about the context and the history of asian-americans in this country. and for those of us who learned our history and who experienced it through our ancestors, know that from the inception of this country, that there has been violence and brutality against asian-americans starting with chinese rail workers and then we see an exclusion act that was extended to an entire continent of people, the incarceration of japanese americans, the rise in hate crimes against muslim-americans following 9/11. all of those things are part of our history in this country. and in the last year, we have seen a rise of anti-aapi sentiment and a rise in asian hate crimes by 180%. it's critically important to note of those reported, 68% of those victims are asian women. >> so the statistics are that women are much more likely within the asian-american community to report them, they're more likely to be targeted. there's certainly a legacy of that. but also, in terms of an issue brought home, you have a number of siblings. is this something that is real for you in your own life? >> you know, as a public elected official, whenever somebody disagrees with my opinion or my policies, the first thing that they do is criticize the country from which my parents come from and the second thing is my gender. so i have experienced a lot of targeted misogyny, targeted xenophobia, messages of going back to your own country, even though i was born here, raised here, i've lived in georgia my entire life. it is very real. i am the first vietnamese american to be elected in the state of georgia in our 200-year history and i was the only asian-american women serving out of 236 lawmakers up until this year. so, you know, it is prevalent in my life. and, you know, related to the election hearings last year when i dared to question one of the alleged expert witnesses, i did receive death threats and they were targeting me for my race and for my gender. but also for daring to speak up, for daring to have a voice. and then outside of that, all of my family, all of my friends, the conversations that we're having are, do you feel safe, what is it going to look like for our little nephews, are our parents okay, are our friends okay. and so it is a very real and very visceral thing. >> so you get a chance to be with the president and the vp tomorrow. obviously this will be something that is on top of mind. but also you are a representative in state that is really the tip of the spear in terms of these country-wide voter suppression efforts. what do they want to do in georgia? what do they want to do, why do you think it's wrong, and how urgent? >> you know, i want to say i'm very grateful for new leadership in the white house and the fact that the president and the vice president will be meeting with me and other asian leaders in our state. it is different, it is much different from the last four years, the previous administration, where the former president assigned blame for the pandemic to one country which led to the increase of aapi violence and hatred in our country. and i think that there are so many urgent things in the state of georgia including the horrific crime that just happened here in atlanta. i do have to say as an asian woman, i feel comforted by the fact that president kamala harris will be in the room given that she is half-asian, because there are cultural things that she will understand that people who are not children of immigrants, who are not asian, they simply cannot connect to some of those nuances that complicate the shooting in atlanta. along with the voter suppression that's happening, that will impact the asian community as well. we know that asian-americans turned up in massive proportions for the presidential election as well as the u.s. senate seats. and so all of those things are going to be at the top of the mind as we meet with the president and the vice president tomorrow. >> georgia has become a crucible from the election, now with these animus-driven murders, i don't care what the suspect says, i don't know how you divorce them from the choice of victims that he made, especially with the newest details about how personal the murders were. and the election reforms, what is being fought in your state will be reverberated across the country. so you're right in the mix, state representative bee nguyen. i'm sorry about how this hits your heart and your family. but you can put a purpose to that pain and i hope you do. i look forward to hearing how it goes. >> thank you so much. >> be well. all of the animus is related. and you are either for it or you are against it. the fbi just released new videos of some of the worst assaults on police officers from january 6. ordinarily, if there was video of cops being attacked, the opposition party, the old gop, they would have been all over it. you have not heard any member of that party talk about blue lives that day. you've never heard it in the context of january 6. you've never heard law and order come from their lips about the demands of the infamy of that day. why not? 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officer sicknick is dead as a result of bear spray, in all likelihood. when you see officers being beaten with poles, remember, 140 were injured in the attack. some maimed. some lost body parts. some will carry the scars of that day for the rest of their lives. it doesn't take a gun to hurt someone. see what the opposition party doesn't want you to see. the dominant color, red, because they're trump hats, trump flags. remember the senator who told you the attackers were really from a leftist group. remember all the cops being beaten when this same senator says this. >> i knew those were people that love this country, that, uh, truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to break a law. so i wasn't concerned. >> he is perpetrating a fraud. he and others in his party are trying to convince that the terror attack, and that's what it was, they're all supposed to be all about terror, right? not this one. the terror attack of january 6 wasn't really that bad. people weren't around. armed. look up the definition of "insurrection." show me where it says "armed." it says "violent." what happened to the gop party? what is happening to the republican party? the party of character counts is replaced by this guy? and no member of the party really got up and told him to shut up. that they're better than this. that he is not what you're about. instead, the top member of this new opposition party in the house is trying to rewrite the history of the big lie the same way johnson and others are trying to rewrite the insurrection it led to. listen. >> donald trump tried to overturn the results in congress and you supported that effort. >> well, now you're saying something that's not true. >> did you or did you not support donald trump's effort to overturn the election in congress? >> no. >> what do you mean, no? yes. yes, you did. you were on the phone with him panicking, saying call off your dogs, he mocked you, and then you still voted to decertify. and you still played the election rig game. come on the show, please, representative mccarthy, come on the show, i'll give you half an hour, let's talk it out. i don't want to yell at you, don't yell at me. let's go through it, make the case. because the way you say it here in light of the facts would make orwell blush. they are literally saying that they didn't say what they said, and for you to believe them over your lying eyes. how can any real republican go for this? not when the u.s. intelligence agencies are telling us narratives of fraud in the recent general election, the big lie, had the emboldening impact of the violent breach of the u.s. capitol, the infamy of january 6, and that it will almost certainly spur domestic violence extremists to try and engage in more attacks this year. when you learn that, where are you, real republicans? you need to de-trumpify your ranks. that takes us to another big problem that the right is pretending to care about. election security. now, election security means restrictive the rights of minorities to vote, yes. but if it means dealing with putin, who was caught interfering again, once again, to help trump, shh. but the new guy in office won't placate putin. trump said he believed putin over american intelligence. biden looked at the same intelligence and said putin is a liar and now a killer. did putin just show his next move? we have a former nato allied supreme commander on this, next. allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst psst you're good tonight...i'll be eating loaded tots for march madness. 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( piano glissando ) i think you better double them tots. no, this me was last year. i didn't get my madness last year, so we're doing double the madness this year. at jackson hewitt, we offer safe and easy ways to file with a skilled tax pro. securely drop off your documents, have them picked up, or upload them, and work with a tax pro online from home. safe and easy ways to file that work around you. team biden is saying no more trumpery when it comes to dealing with bad guys. today secretary of state antony blinken laid out deep concerns about some of china's actions around the world and warned of the need to respect global order or face a more violent world. >> we'll also discuss our deep concerns with actions by china, including in hong kong, taiwan, cyber attacks on the united states, economic coercion toward our allies. the alternative to a rules-based order is a world in which might makes right and winners take all. and that would be a far more violent and unstable world for all of us. >> those words were not well-met. a heated confrontation ensued. the top foreign policy aide to chinese leader xi jinping said, the u.s. does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to china from a position of strength. all this playing out amid putin's response to biden calling him a killer. let's discuss with the author of "2034: a novel of the next world war," retired admiral, former nato supreme allied commander, james stavridis. it's good to see you, sir. >> great seeing you, chris. >> good luck with the book. hopefully it stays a novel and we don't have to deal with it in real time. biden calling putin a killer is likely a reference to his reputation as a former kgb operative. but what does that do for the state of play? >> i think it's honest. it's direct. it clears up any lingering sense on the part of putin that he's got anything but a free ride with the biden administration. look, i would call it, a, honest, and b, refreshing, when the president of the united states did not act sycophantically towards vladimir putin. chris, you and i both new john mccain after president bush looked in the eyes of putin and said, you know, i can work with putin, i see his soul. john mccain said, i looked into vladimir putin's eyes and i saw three letters, kgb. i think mccain got that one right and i think joe biden has it right. >> what did you think of the trump unorthodox approach of being so sycophantic, to use your word, to stand on the world stage and say i believe him over united states intel? was that just self-serving, to protect trump from any scrutiny of having been assisted? what was the effort of that play and why is biden's play better in your opinion? >> well, first of all, in international relations, i was dean of the fletcher school of law and diplomacy for five years. i have a ph.d in international relations. rule number one, be honest and direct. it clears up any chance of miscalculation. in terms of why president trump was so benign in the face of constant putin aggression in syria, in ukraine, above all, chris, in our elections, you know, there's more good reporting to follow on that, i hope. however, what we have now is a biden administration in my view that's taken a very clear-eyed look at vladimir putin and assesses correctly, he is no friend to the united states, we have got to confront him. >> you know, putin is mostly noise. china is a threat. we don't really have -- russia doesn't really have anything we want. china is a true opponent on a number of different levels. that was a very muscular response from them today, saying you don't have any high ground, you can't come at us from a position of strength. is that them saying, we hold all your debt? what do you see them communicating in that? >> i think they recognize that we are waking up to the fact that china as a looming tower. they are a serious competitor to the united states. they're advancing in technology. chris, they claim the entire south china sea as territorial waters. this is a body of water the size of the gulf of mexico and the caribbean sea combined. it's a preposterous claim. but if we were to acquiesce in that, if we were to acquiesce in their gross human rights violations in their own nation, in hong kong, the pressure they put on taiwan, on neighbors around the region, we cannot afford to do that because long term, down that path doth madness and war lie. we need to confront them where we must, find zones of cooperation where we can. and i think secretary of state tony blinken stood up well in the face of a lot of bluster from china. and i for one agree with tony blinken. i wouldn't bet against the united states long term. >> but antony blinken was still general. we know what they're doing with the uighurs. some people call it a genocide. >> yeah. >> america has not been loud or proud about what's going on in there in any real way. the media has very little access, if any. should america start calling that out? should we start demanding transparency? should we try to get in there? >> what we should do, chris, is take it out of the channel where it is, u.s. versus china, because we have this enormous, enormous network of allies, partners, and friends, all of nato where i was supreme allied commander, japan, australia, increasingly india, the so-called quad. vietnam, south korea. we have a huge network of allies, partners, and friends. we ought to encourage all of them to collectively call out china. and i think over time, they will do that, because china cannot be allowed to be the bully in asia. >> it's got to be a team effort, right, admiral, because you know the american appetite for any military intervention abroad is very, very spare. admiral james stavridis, i know you're very busy, i know you've got the new book out, again, for people to understand that you know what you're talking about, and you're always welcome on this show, remind us of the name of the new book. >> "2034: a novel of the next world war." it's a cautionary tale. let's avoid the war but let's do it from a position of strength dealing with china. >> i hope i'm alive just to see that it doesn't come true. take care, admiral, and thank you again. >> thanks, chris. >> i called him "the admirable," that was a slip, but it works. the pandemic has kept so many of us apart, right? 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no, it looks like he did a great job. and the result after it? a giant, safe, bear hug. look at that. don't you want to be them? that's why we need to get people vaccinated. mike reckon and shirley donaldson are here with me, now. yep, there is you on tv. what a beautiful moment. it's nice to see you both. >> how are you, chris? >> i'm better, now. >> hi, chris, i watch you every night. >> thank you, very much. you're part of a very exclusive group. you're probably only watching because you couldn't get out of the house. now that you've been vaccinated, you can get back to enjoying yourself. what did it mean to you, mike, to vaccinate your grandma and be able to sit like this again? and hug her, and remind yourself of why she's so important? >> oh, it was great. you know, we're -- we're a very close family. and we're used to spending every holiday together, eating crabs all summer. and finally, we can, hopefully, resume that. and then, today, we just found out that my parents' age group is going to be eligible in maryland now. so, everybody will be vaccinated here soon, hopefully. >> shirley, why is your grandson so special? >> he's -- i'm 90 years old. >> i don't believe you. >> and he was our first -- he was our first grandchild. and he's just special. he and his brother are special. >> what makes him a good boy? >> he said, what makes me a good boy? >> what did you say? >> what makes him such a good grandson? >> because he came from a good mother and father. >> that's exactly what i thought i was going to hear. well, listen, brother. i hope that -- i hope that you really get to appreciate each other. and make those memories, and spend that time. this has been such a hard time, for so many. i'm happy and jealous of your family. i still haven't seen my mom. i got a sneak peek of her for my birthday. she's vaccinated, now. she's got the double shot. i want you guys to be an inspiration to the family. if they're lucky enough, mike, to have a grandmother as beautiful and as sweet as your own. what a chance to get reconnected. thank you, for bringing us this story. >> i love him. >> you should. look at him. >> and he's got a -- that's just as good. >> i believe it. they're all equal. they're all equal. but this one vaccinated you so he's got a little bit of an advantage. squhirl shirley, thank you very much for watching the show. i need you, so thank you. >> thanks for calling me young lady. it makes me feel good. >> i call 'em as i see 'em. god bless and be well. >> thank you, chris. >> don't you want to be like them? 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"cnn tonight" is the big show, and the big star is d lemon, right now. >> yeah. bitter party of one, as i was watching that video with dr. fauci and rand paul. as you were saying. what -- what -- why -- why even go through -- why? there's no reason. there's only one reason. for political gain. or you're angry or you are bitter. you're -- you're a hater. you're a hater, that's what it is. >> i mean, it can't be on the science. i mean, look, i totall

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